Alt Goes Mainstream: The Latest on Alternative Investments, WealthTech, & Private Markets

In this engaging discussion, Chris Kindt, a partner at Hg and Head of Value Creation, shares his expertise in integrating AI into private equity. With 15 years in the field, he reveals how AI transforms investment processes and operational strategies. Discover how he builds high-performing teams to enhance value across Hg's extensive portfolio, focusing on talent and data-driven approaches. Chris emphasizes AI's role as a game changer for efficiency and product development, offering insights on balancing human judgment with AI's capabilities.

Brian Ruder and Dipan Patel, Co-CEOs of Permira, share insights on leading a €80B alternative asset manager. They discuss the evolution of private equity, emphasizing the increasing importance of technology and software in buyouts. AI is framed as a platform shift, with implications for data and long-term growth strategies. Their collaborative leadership model fosters faster decision-making and a strong focus on cultural values. Ruder and Patel also address the need for deep sector capability and the advantages of founder-led companies in driving profitability.

Glenn Schorr, Senior Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst at Evercore ISI, joins to explore the evolving landscape of private markets. He examines the resurgence of exit activities in private equity and the expanding role of private credit. Glenn also discusses the growth of alternative asset managers and the influence of the wealth channel. Delving into real estate, he highlights why it represents a compelling opportunity, noting that over 90% of real estate is privately owned. Join the conversation as Glenn shares insights on making private markets more accessible.

Dipan Patel, Co-CEO and Co-Managing Partner at Permira, brings his extensive experience in private equity investing. He discusses Permira’s impressive growth to over €80B in AUM and the role of firm culture since its 1996 inception. Dipan delves into the importance of 'good luck' in underwriting, the challenges presented by AI, and how it reshapes incumbent companies. Additionally, he explores the rising capital flows into private markets and the firm's unique growth strategy that balances integrated platforms and risk management.

In a lively discussion, Kunal Kapoor, CEO of Morningstar, shares his journey from data analyst to leader at the forefront of investment trends. He dives into the dynamic convergence of public and private markets, emphasizing transparency and regulatory roles. Kapoor explores the philosophical implications of making private markets more accessible and the impact of social media on investor behavior. He also discusses the significance of evergreen funds and the future landscape of alternative investments, highlighting the critical need for informed investor strategies.

In this discussion, Luke Taylor, Co-President of Stonepeak, shares insights from his 20+ years in infrastructure investing, transitioning from a sheep farm to Wall Street. He explains the entrepreneurial journey that led to Stonepeak's impressive growth. Luke highlights the evolving landscape of infrastructure, noting its broader implications beyond traditional assets like roads and bridges. He discusses innovative value creation, the importance of logistics networks, and the potential of thematic investing in sectors like data centers, emphasizing the strategic development of private wealth access to infrastructure.

David Nable, MD and Head of Client and Partner Development at Arcesium, shares his expertise on transforming private markets through technology. With a rich background in fund administration, he highlights how tech can streamline operations for asset managers. David discusses the growing importance of data harmonization in private equity and the implications of AI innovations on investment strategies. He emphasizes that a tech-forward approach is crucial for firms to remain competitive in evolving markets, addressing both opportunities and operational challenges.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode dives into what the future of fund administration could look like with a tech-forward approach and the application of AI.We sat down with Juniper Square CEO and Co-Founder Alex Robinson to discuss how and why they’ve built a digital first fund administrator for private markets, starting with real estate and since expanding into other asset classes.Fresh off of a $130M Series D fundraise led by Ribbit Capital, Juniper Square has expanded globally, into fund administration through its acquisition of Forstone, and has launched JunieAI to bring AI to fund administration.Alex and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:Why Alex started Juniper Square and how his two entrepreneurial endeavors has informed how he’s built the firm.The problem Alex set out to solve by building Juniper Square.After dealing with FedEx’s to make investments, how he set out to build an investor experience that was digital.How AI will impact fund admin.Why every GP should have an AI agent according to Alex.Why Juniper Square decided to move from a technology firm to add fund administration capabilities in house.Does AI benefit larger firms or smaller firms more?Thanks Alex for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your expertise and wisdom on fund administration and AI.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:03 Juniper Square: Revolutionizing Fund Management01:38 Welcoming Alex to the Podcast01:59 Alex's Journey to Founding Juniper Square02:10 Juniper Square's Mission and Services02:38 The Early Days and Challenges03:41 The Digital Transformation of Private Markets04:15 Focusing on the GP Experience04:30 Balancing GP and LP Needs04:54 The Naivete Advantage05:12 Overcoming Industry Challenges06:58 Real Estate: The Starting Point08:41 The Evolution of Juniper Square09:38 Technology Adoption in Private Markets17:21 The Importance of Customer Feedback18:09 The Vision for Market Efficiency20:10 Expanding Across Asset Classes21:09 The Role of Personal Relationships22:49 Becoming a Full-Stack Service Provider24:31 The Complexity of Fund Administration28:55 The Future with AI29:21 Challenges of Implementing AI30:31 The High Cost of Mistakes31:18 AI's Impact on Employee Productivity31:52 Challenges of Adopting AI in the Workplace32:20 Launching JunieAI32:59 Understanding AI Models33:44 Customizing AI for Reporting34:44 Mastering Data for AI35:13 AI in Software Development35:59 Leveraging AI at Juniper Square36:19 Ensuring Accuracy and Context in AI Models37:30 AI's Limitations in Financial Insights37:52 Future Improvements in AI Models38:36 Feeding AI the Right Context39:11 Connecting AI to Tools and Workflows40:19 Automating Fund Administration43:39 AI's Role in Competitive Advantage44:24 AI's Impact on Different Asset Classes46:16 Best Practices for GPS Using AI47:02 AI's Benefits for Large vs. Small Firms48:58 Integrating AI Across Business Functions51:39 Balancing AI with Human Relationships54:33 Future Vision for Private Markets55:02 AI Agents in GP Work56:07 Transforming GP-LP Matchmaking01:00:50 Investment Opportunities in AI and Real Estate Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.What happens when two podcasters walk into a room? They talk.Today’s podcast turns the tables on one of the industry’s leading podcasters and content creators to have him share his story and experience as an allocator and content creator. We sat down with Ted Seides, the Founder of industry-leading podcast Capital Allocators and former President and Co-CIO of Protégé Partners and an asset allocator at the Yale Endowment.Ted has had a tremendous career at the intersection of asset allocation and content, so it was fascinating to hear his perspectives on the state of the industry and how it’s evolving from someone who talks with many of the industry’s leading minds through his podcast, Capital Allocators.Ted and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:Stories and lessons learned from working with David Swensen at the Yale Endowment.What the wealth channel can learn from institutional investors.What Ted looked for in hedge funds and alternative asset managers when doing manager due diligence.Ted’s bet with Buffett on hedge funds and why he’s now doing a bet on PE versus public equities.How alternative asset managers are evolving and the pros and cons of evergreen structures.Why and how Ted started Capital Allocators and why content is so critical to learning asset management and understanding how firms operate.Capital Allocators is one of my favorite podcast listens and Ted always delivers with high-quality and thoughtful content so it was an honor to have him on the show.Thanks Ted for sharing your expertise and wisdom on asset allocation and content and for the service you provide to everyone in the industry through education and the creation of such high-quality content for us to consume.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Juniper Square00:38 Juniper Square's AI Capabilities01:40 Guest Introduction: Ted Seides04:03 Lessons from Yale Endowment04:46 David Swensen's Investment Principles05:51 Evolution of the Endowment Model05:58 Wealth Channel vs. Institutional Investors08:09 Access to Top Managers11:16 Alpha in Private Markets12:32 Ted's Bet with Buffett13:10 Private Equity vs. Public Equities17:16 Private Equity Diversification18:45 Hedge Fund Industry Lessons20:07 Private Equity Fee Structures24:03 Talent Migration in Private Markets26:47 Evaluating Investment Culture27:15 Investment Philosophy and Strategy28:26 Ted's Approach to Manager Evaluation29:46 Impact of AI on Diligence Processes30:20 Defining Investment Edge30:33 Behavioral and Analytical Edge31:01 Informational and Technical Edge31:27 Evaluating Investment Managers31:37 Impactful Investment Decisions31:52 Mistakes and Learning32:53 The Hardest Time to Invest34:14 Behavioral Biases in Investing34:51 Decision-Making Processes36:28 The Role of AI in Investing38:07 Content and Investment Decisions39:25 Starting Capital Allocators41:00 Learning from Podcasting43:40 Building a Business from a Podcast45:26 The Value of Relationships in Investing47:06 Content Strategy for Managers49:44 Effective Content Modalities50:43 Direct Communication vs. Algorithms51:13 Brand vs. Direct Sales52:35 Insights from Podcast Conversations54:23 Favorite Private Market Investments56:05 AI and Investment Perspectives57:37 Partnering with AI Experts58:12 The Importance of People in Investing Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is about mining for investment success in enterprise software by going “an inch wide and a mile deep” with someone who is one of the industry’s most prolific private equity technology investors.We sat down with Nic Humphries in Hg’s London office. Nic is the Senior Partner and Executive Chairman of Hg and Head of the firm’s Saturn fund.Hg, one of the top 10 largest PE firms globally based on the PEI300 ranking, has built an impressive investment engine focused on mission-critical enterprise software. The firm has built a portfolio that is a “transatlantic ecosystem of software and services businesses” — representing over $180B in collective enterprise value across its 55 portfolio companies.Nic is responsible for Hg’s strategy, management, and governance. On the investing side, Nic focuses on larger software investments that provide daily-use mission critical applications for accountants, tax / compliance professionals, and designers / engineers / scientists. He has brought his electrical engineering background to bear to go a “mile deep” into a category where Hg has become an unquestioned market leader.Nic balances being both a detail-oriented specialist with a vision for both the enterprise software industry and Hg as a firm. We had a fascinating discussion about enterprise software investing, how to create European software giants, applying AI to make companies more efficient, and much more.We covered:The origin story of Hg.How Hg grew into one of the industry’s leading software focused private equity firms.How an engineering mindset has helped Nic become a leading investor.Why Hg focuses on mission-critical enterprise software and why it’s a compelling investment thesis.Why enterprise software investing can be considered a low volatility investment strategy and how Hg has delivered consistent returns to investors.How to effectively manage exits and DPI.Why Europe, why now?How AI could impact technology and services businesses.Thanks Nic for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise about enterprise software and private markets.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Juniper Square01:40 Introducing Nic Humphries01:56 Hg's Investment Strategy04:03 Nic's Background and Career Journey04:46 Engineering Mindset in Investing05:14 Long-Term Business Thinking05:58 Hg's Focus on Accounting Software06:45 Growth Drivers in SMB Market09:05 Impact of AI on Enterprise Software09:34 Platform Shifts in Technology11:10 Adapting to AI in Business12:15 Mission Critical Software14:02 Challenges of AI Integration14:58 Embedding Products and Services17:13 Organic Growth vs. Acquisitions20:51 Geographical Expansion Strategies21:59 European vs. North American Markets23:30 Management Teams and Expansion24:32 Jurisdictional Challenges in Europe25:05 Hg's Investment Philosophy25:50 Mission Critical Software in Europe36:22 Hg's Consistent Investment Returns38:00 Conclusion and Final Thoughts40:13 Understanding Recurring Revenues40:59 The Importance of Discipline in Investing41:48 Learning from Past Experiences43:30 Maintaining Excitement and Focus45:26 The Role of Realization Committees46:44 Continuous Improvement Culture47:42 The Importance of Cash Returns48:51 Exit Strategies and Realization Committees50:32 Re-underwriting Investments52:40 AI's Impact on Software Development54:17 The Rule of 40 and AI54:38 Investing in AI: Startups vs. Established Businesses55:59 Hg's Growth Strategy58:56 Specialization in B2B Back Office Software01:01:35 Fund Structure and Management01:03:27 Expanding into the Wealth Channel01:03:48 Hg Capital Trust and Fusion Fund01:05:27 Communicating with a Broader Audience01:06:39 The Importance of Brand in Wealth Management01:07:32 Connecting Private Markets to Everyday Life01:09:36 The Prevalence of Private Companies01:11:09 Aligning Interests with Investors01:12:19 Investment Decisions and Long-term Growth01:14:21 Future Growth Opportunities for Hg01:16:38 The Role of AI in Future Investments Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.DisclaimerThe views and opinions expressed in this episode are those of the speaker and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any affiliated organization.Any references to past performance, including IRR or MOIC figures, are presented on a gross basis and do not reflect the deduction of fees, expenses, or carried interest. 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