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Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s podcast is with an elite performer on and off the field who has gone from protecting quarterbacks to protecting families’ wealth.We sit down with former NFL and USC star Winston Justice, whose entrepreneurial spirit that was stoked while he was still playing in the NFL has led to a successful and impactful career in wealth management. He was recently named CEO at SageSpring Private Wealth, a $7B independent wealth management firm, as they look to grow organically and inorganically and expand their offerings in private markets for their clients.A former NFL offensive lineman, Winston played for the Philadelphia Eagles, Indianapolis Colts, and Denver Broncos from 2006 to 2015. He also co-founded an early stage investment vehicle, MJC Capital, and Elixr, a gourmet café and coffee roastery, while he was playing. He also won 2010 Walter Payton Philadelphia Man of the Year Award for his community service.He transitioned into financial services and wealth management post-career, starting at Wells Fargo Securities, where he specialized in institutional and family office advisory. He then was a portfolio manager at PIA’s Alternative Investment Group, and then an investment Manager at AllianceBernstein.Winston and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:The parallels between sports and finance.How Winston navigated the transition from professional athlete to a finance professional.What stoked his entrepreneurial spirit.Why wealth management is so critical to people’s lives. Why culture fit is so important when integrating advisors into wealth management platforms through acquisition.How private markets can add to an advisor’s practice.Thanks Winston for coming on the show to share your story, wisdom, and expertise.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:04 Our Sponsor, Juniper Square: Revolutionizing Fund Management00:30 Empowering GPS with Juniper Square00:38 Juniper Square's AI Innovation00:51 Scaling Your Business with Juniper Square01:37 Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast01:40 Introducing Winston Justice03:35 Winston's Background and Early Life03:49 College Years and Initial Business Ventures03:59 Realization and Transition to Finance04:10 Starting a VC Fund and Coffee Shops04:31 Transitioning from NFL to Finance05:04 Winston's Career at Wells Fargo and Beyond05:17 Immersing in Wealth Management07:01 The Sacredness of Financial Management07:50 Importance of Wealth Management08:04 Private Markets in Wealth Management08:19 Early Lessons in Wealth Management09:10 Transferring Values and Knowledge09:32 Managing Assets Beyond Numbers10:19 Combining Finance and Mission12:11 Mentoring Advisors at SageSpring12:43 Skill Sets for SageSpring Advisors12:51 Client Focus and Community Leadership14:01 Balancing Client Delivery and Business Growth14:56 Impact of Growing AUM16:10 Testing Advisors' Commitment16:55 Business Constructs in Wealth Management17:43 Division of Labor in Wealth Management18:52 SageSpring's Unique Approach19:53 Client Understanding of Fiduciary Role20:41 Trust in Financial Services21:17 Sophistication in Choosing Investment Partners21:57 Role of Relationship in Financial Services22:30 Evaluating Investment Opportunities23:44 Partnership with Dynasty Financial24:43 Customizing Investment Solutions26:44 Educating Wealth Managers on Private Markets27:00 Benefits of Alternatives in Portfolios30:48 Effective Storytelling in Investments32:13 Future of Wealth Management Industry33:08 Client and Advisor Service in Wealth Management34:55 Favorite Private Markets Investment37:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Future Proof, which holds one of the industry’s largest wealth conferences, invited me to hold a live podcast earlier this year with Blue Owl Co-President and Global Head of Real Assets Marc Zahr. Marc is a pioneer in the real estate space, building Blue Owl into a market leader in the triple net lease strategy, a commercial real estate investment strategy that is becoming increasingly popular for real estate investors, tenants (think large corporates like Amazon, Walgreens, Dollar General), and investors alike.Blue Owl’s Real Assets business has over $67.1B AUM, owning over 5,600 assets and partnering with over 800 tenants. Marc founded Oak Street, the predecessor firm to Blue Owl, in 2009 with $17M AUM. Listening to Marc talk about the evolution of his career, building Oak Street, and running Blue Owl’s Real Assets platform, it’s no surprise to see why Marc and the firm have had success. His “myopic focus … perfecting his craft,” as he discussed in our conversation, his clarity of vision, and his ability to so clearly articulate his investment strategy and market opportunity have led to tremendous success for Oak Street, and now, Blue Owl.Marc and I had a fascinating and thought-provoking discussion that covered everything from the evolution of his firm, how and why he sold Oak Street to Blue Owl, the market opportunity in triple net lease real estate investing, why data center investing is a large market opportunity, how to build a high-performing investment culture, and much more.We discussed:The story of how Marc built Oak Street from a $17M real estate investment firm and grew it into Blue Owl’s $67B AUM Real Assets platform.Breaking down the triple net lease real estate investment strategy.Why the industry “isn’t even in the first inning” in the $20T addressable market in triple net lease real estate investing.Why data centers are a “once in a generation opportunity” due to capex supply / demand imbalance.How a bigger platform can help an asset manager scale its business.Why an evergreen structure can make sense and the story of how Blue Owl did so well with its triple net lease product on a private wealth platform that the private bank created their own product.The hardest part of educating the wealth channel on real estate and evergreen structures.Why private wealth is the biggest opportunity in the future. The advice Marc would give to someone trying to build the next great asset manager.Thanks Marc for sharing your wisdom, expertise, and thoughtful and nuanced perspectives on private markets and real estate. 

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with someone who has successfully built a wealth solutions business tailored to her firm’s unique strengths, expertise, and investment track record.Martina Sanow is a Partner and Head of Hg Wealth, where she is focused on building the firm’s wealth solutions offering built out of the $85B AUM firm, Hg, that invests in enterprise software.Hg, one of the top 10 largest PE firms globally based on the PEI 300 ranking, has built an impressive investment engine focused mission-critical enterprise software companies. The firm has built a portfolio that is a “transatlantic ecosystem of software and services businesses” — representing over $180B in collective enterprise value across its 55 portfolio companies.Martina has been at the firm for almost 16 years. She has been an integral part of building the firm into what it is today, helping Hg grow from $2B in AUM to $85B in AUM, previously as Deputy COO and now building the Hg Wealth business. Hg’s first wealth offering, Fusion, its flagship evergreen fund that provides access to non-US investors to Hg’s private equity funds and co-investment opportunities, has exceeded $1B in NAV just 12 months after its launch.Martina is thoughtful, strategic, and long-term oriented when it comes to building a solution that amplifies Hg’s strengths and resonates with the wealth channel. We had a fascinating discussion about how a scaled specialist like Hg can stand out in the wealth channel, unpacking the essence of who Hg is as a firm and how they’ve expressed who they are as they’ve built their wealth business.We covered:Hg’s evolution as a firm.Why Hg focuses on mission-critical enterprise software companies and why it’s a compelling investment thesis.Building a wealth business that fits the mission, ethos, and strategy of the firm.Understanding the complexity of evergreen funds.How Martina and team think about managing dealflow and investor demand in their Fusion fund.Learnings applied from HgTrust, the publicly listed UK investment trust, to figuring out how to educate and build brand in the wealth channel.Why does ownership structure matter when it comes to building a wealth business? How being privately owned informs how Hg builds their wealth business.Why Europe, why now?Thanks Martina for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise at the intersection of enterprise software, private equity, and private wealth.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Message from Ultimus, our Sponsor01:55 Welcome to the Podcast01:58 Introducing Martina Sanow04:36 Martina's Background and Experience05:10 Hg's Specialization in Software05:57 Building a Team and Culture06:54 Importance of Cognitive Diversity07:26 Building a Diverse Team09:28 Innovating in Wealth Business10:14 Hg's Strategic Mindset11:51 Hg's Entrepreneurial Journey12:00 Maintaining Entrepreneurial Culture13:10 Specialization in B2B Software14:47 Focus on DPI and Cash Back16:17 Criteria for A-Quality Businesses16:58 Investing in Mission Critical Software18:11 Visma Case Study19:23 Challenges and Opportunities in Europe33:13 Evergreen Structures: Impact on Investment Teams33:44 Balancing Capital Raising and Deal Flow34:13 Investment Strategies and Allocation34:54 Managing Subscriptions and Demand35:53 Balancing Wealth and Institutional Demand36:06 Privately Owned Firm Benefits36:37 Realization Committee and Evergreen Structures37:52 Long-Term Company Partnerships39:11 Liquidity Management Challenges39:55 Investor Strategies for Evergreen Funds41:40 Institutional Adoption of Evergreen Funds42:48 Evolution of Institutional Mindset43:26 Retail vs. Wealth Investors44:01 Listed Trust and Wealth Business Insights45:54 Building the Wealth Business47:29 Strategic Importance of Wealth Capital48:54 Innovation in Wealth Management49:28 Partnerships and Holistic Solutions50:58 Future of Wealth Management Products52:44 Brand Building and Education55:00 Software as a Core Investment56:19 Community and Founder Investments59:28 Value Creation and Network Benefits01:00:15 Portfolio Synergies and Acquisitions01:01:36 Concluding Thoughts and Favorite InvestmentsEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s conversation dives into the current state of private markets through the lens of one of the leading GP stakes firms in the industry.We sat down with Partner and Global Co-Head of the Petershill Group at Goldman Sachs Robert Hamilton Kelly. Petershill takes minority equity stakes in established and newly-established alternative asset managers. Across its different investment vehicles, Petershill participates in the fee income from over 200 underlying funds from alternative asset management firms that are diversified across asset class, investment strategy, and investment lifecycle.Petershill’s Partner firms have well in excess of $340B in aggregate AUM and they’ve partnered with a number of the top firms and some of the industry's most recognizable names in the middle market and upper end of the market, including Clearlake, Francisco Partners, Permira, Accel-KKR, General Catalyst, Kayne Anderson Real Estate, Kennedy Lewis, and more.Rob and I had a fascinating conversation on GP stakes and the evolution of alternative asset management. We discussed:The what, why, and how of GP stakes.The benefits and drawbacks of GP stakes investing for GPs and LPs.What makes a great GP.The question of liquidity in GP stakes.Why Petershill has generally focused on middle-market alternative asset managers.How private markets will continue to evolve and the growing importance of the wealth channel in the evolution of asset management.Thanks Rob for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise in private markets and GP stakes. We hope you enjoy.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message01:18 Podcast Opening and Theme02:06 Guest Introduction: Robert Hamilton Kelly03:32 Rob's Boat Racing Experience03:45 Parallels Between Boat Racing and Private Markets04:57 Current State of Private Markets05:14 Impact of Policy Changes on Private Markets06:53 Growth of the Private Markets Industry07:09 Early Days of Petershill07:26 Goldman's Role in Alternative Asset Management09:26 Valuing GP Stakes and Alternative Asset Managers10:01 Insights on Alternative Asset Managers12:36 Valuing GP Stakes13:22 Data-Driven Investment Strategies15:34 Management Fees and Performance Fees16:28 Growth and Evolution of Firms23:16 Strategic Imperatives for Growth26:15 Managerial Skills and Industry Dynamics30:55 Commercialization in Platform Management31:07 Challenges and Opportunities in Capital Raising31:53 Industry Consolidation Predictions32:29 Growth and Consolidation in Private Markets33:31 The Role of Mid-Market Firms34:15 GP Stakes and Wealth Channel Access36:12 Goldman's Unique Platform and Services37:57 The Importance of Strategic Advice39:39 Common Challenges for GPs40:33 Evolving LP and GP Stakes Dynamics40:44 Why LPs Invest in GP Stakes42:00 Income Generation and Capital Growth42:49 Diversification in GP Stakes43:05 Private Markets Exposure44:01 Entry Points into Private Markets45:07 Long-Term Exposure and Portfolio Construction47:00 Investing in Private Credit48:10 Evaluating GP Stakes Investments49:38 Data and Performance in GP Stakes52:04 Growth Path of Private Markets52:23 Valuing Alternative Asset Managers55:41 Liquidity in GP Stakes57:09 Structural Changes in GP Stakes57:35 The Evolution of Private Markets58:11 Future of Venture and Growth Sectors58:56 Private Credit Products and Market Share59:29 Maturation of Private Markets59:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Welcome to the 17th episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream. We were live from iCapital Connect’s conference in Phoenix to dive into the most pressing trends at the intersection of private markets and wealth management —and unpack how wealth management firms are utilizing private markets to build out or enhance their practice.In this episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, iCapital Managing Partner and Co-Head of iCapital Solutions, Steve Houston, and I are joined by Eric Harrison, Founding Partner of IEQ Capital.IEQ, managing close to $40B in AUM, has been an innovator from the start. Private markets — and a customized approach to investing in private markets — are a core part of the IEQ offering — and they’ve differentiated the firm as a result.Eric and Steve shared a number of thought-provoking perspectives on wealth management and how advisors and clients can approach allocating to private markets as part of a holistic asset allocation framework.Thanks Eric and Steve for a great episode … looking forward to the next Monthly Alts Pulse conversation!Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction00:24 Experiences in Private Banking01:28 Independent Advisors and Private Markets01:46 IEQ Capital's Approach to Private Markets03:33 Scaling and Research in Alternative Investments05:48 Client Experience and Customization07:35 Technology and Tax Strategy10:46 Innovative Ideas in Private Markets13:13 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Ivan Zinn, Managing Director at Blue Owl Capital, showcases his expertise in alternative credit and asset-based finance. He shares insights on the evolution of private credit since the early 2000s, detailing shifts from traditional banking to innovative lending structures. Zinn draws fascinating parallels between long-distance running and the finance sector, highlighting the resilience required in both fields. He discusses the importance of counterparty risk, data analytics, and the adaptive nature of markets, making complex financial topics engaging and relatable.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with the CIO of an insurance company responsible for more than $300B in assets and a major focus on private markets.Lincoln Financial EVP and CIO Jayson Bronchetti and I sat down recently at Lincon Financial’s headquarters in Radnor, Pennsylvania to discuss the increasing involvement of insurance companies in private markets.Jayson, who is a member of Lincoln Financial’s Senior Management Committee and serves as the primary investment officer to Lincoln’s Board of Directors on all investment-related matters, is responsible for more than $300B in assets across the general account portfolio and the separate account mutual fund complex. He’s also chairman of the board of directors of the Lincoln Variable Insurance Product Trust family of over 100 mutual funds. He's also on the board of the Lincoln Financial Foundation.Fresh off recent partnerships with Bain Capital and Partners Group on private markets investment products and Bain Capital taking a stake in Lincoln’s business, Jayson and I had a fascinating conversation about how insurance companies can approach private markets and how they can build unique and differentiated partnerships with asset managers.We discussed:The evolving role of insurance companies as LPs in private markets.Why asset and liability matching is a critical framework to allocating to private markets.How the general account of an insurance company creates interesting opportunities for strategic relationships and partnerships with alternative asset managers.The benefit of having a business that works with financial advisors and individuals.The importance of educating wholesalers about private markets – and why insurance wholesalers might have an advantage in educating advisors and clients about private markets products and strategies.Thanks Jayson for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise about private markets and insurance.Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:40 Introduction to Jayson Bronchetti02:20 Sponsor Message: Ultimus Fund Solutions03:37 Welcome to the Podcast04:03 Jayson's Background in Private Markets04:57 Evolution of Insurance Companies in Private Markets06:37 Symbiotic Relationship Between GPs and Insurers08:40 Understanding Liquidity and Illiquidity11:19 Diligencing Private Markets Managers13:25 Balancing Scale and Performance14:09 Boots on the Ground: Sourcing Edge14:42 Evolution of Alternative Asset Managers14:53 Lincoln's Unique Position in the Market19:32 Strategic Partnerships with Bain and Partners Group20:03 The Value of Distribution Relationships22:14 The Democratization of Alternative Investments22:49 The Intersection of Private Markets, Wealth, and Insurance23:10 Approaching Private Markets with the General Account24:18 Launching Strategies with Bain and Partners Group24:50 Incubating New Strategies for Retail Consumers25:16 Building a Customized Investment Strategy25:45 Designing Purposeful Investment Funds26:00 Ensuring Accessibility and Proper Wrappers26:08 Liquidity and Product Matching26:15 Seeding Strategies with the General Account26:58 One Lincoln Approach27:12 Finding Opportunities in the Seams27:46 Balancing General Account and Distribution Needs28:07 Product Innovation in the Wealth Channel28:53 Healthy Tension in Product Design31:51 Importance of Asset Liability Management33:05 Educating the Distribution Team34:47 Training Modules for Wholesalers36:28 Boots on the Ground: The Power of Relationships37:45 Simplifying Complex Products40:44 Democratizing Alternative Investments41:10 Straddling Institutional and Individual Mindsets41:35 Integrating Private Markets into Retirement Products43:13 Future of Private Markets in Retirement Portfolios43:57 Product Innovation and Technology45:15 Private Markets in Insurance Products47:16 Focus on Private Credit49:38 Risks in Private Credit50:29 Excitement for the Future of Private Markets51:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Disclosure from Lincoln Financial Registration statements for each of the evergreen funds have been filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and are available from the EDGAR database on the SEC's website (www.sec.gov). The information in the registration statements is not complete and may be changed. The securities of neither fund may be sold until its registration statement is effective. An investor should consider the investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses of each fund carefully before investing. This and other information about each fund will be contained in the fund's final prospectus, which investors should read carefully when available from t...

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode digs into how the CIO of a growing multi-billion dollar wealth management firm thinks about customization and differentiation by building out private markets capabilities.We sat down with John McArthur, Senior Partner and CIO at $3.6B AUM Krilogy. Founded in 2009, Krilogy provides comprehensive financial planning and investment management services to HNW individuals, families, and business owners.Krilogy is charting a growth path — and to chart a growth path, John and his team are thinking about how they can thoughtfully grow their business.With John at the helm as CIO, they have been strategic with their approach to private markets and have increasingly focused on ways that they can create customized and differentiated solutions for their clients.John took 11 years of experience in wealth management and financial planning at A.G. Edwards & Sons and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney to Krilogy, where he joined his former University of Missouri college football teammate, Kent Skornia, to help quarterback Krilogy and their clients to financial success.John is thoughtful in his approach to private markets and how to provide solutions to their clients. We had a fascinating discussion about how wealth management is evolving and how private markets are critical to growing a wealth management practice. We discussed:How John and team have grown and scaled an independent wealth management firm.How John approaches private markets — and how that approach has evolved as they work with clients of greater size.How to balance customization and differentiation with scale.How can asset managers effectively educate and provide solutions to the wealth channel?What’s still missing from private markets solutions for the wealth channel?His views on product innovation, including evergreen funds.Advice John would give to wealth advisors looking to invest in private markets.Thanks John for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise on wealth management and private markets.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Message from our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions01:54 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream02:06 Introducing John McArthur03:51 John's Journey into Wealth Management04:23 The Role of Sports in John's Career05:47 Lessons from Big Wealth Management Firms06:21 Krilogy's Growth and Strategy07:25 Challenges and Opportunities in Wealth Management07:36 Private Markets and Customization08:04 Growth Strategies and Quality Control09:29 Client Service and Organic Growth11:26 Differentiating Wealth Management Offerings12:23 Importance of Private Markets13:14 Creating Customized Solutions14:53 Educating Advisors on Private Markets15:54 Volatility and Market Changes17:04 Private Markets in a New Economic Environment17:24 Building a Diverse Private Fund19:50 Client Understanding of Private Markets20:25 Educating Advisors and Clients22:15 Behavioral Bias in Investing23:42 Long-Term Investing Mindset24:08 Compounding and Diversification24:41 Challenges in Advisor Education25:46 Effective Education Strategies27:01 The Role of Storytelling in Education27:22 Future of Education in Wealth Management27:35 Sourcing and Access in Private Markets28:46 Networking and Building Trust29:26 Customization and Differentiation in Wealth Management30:34 Combining Big Brands and Niche Funds31:47 The Importance of Being in the Game32:13 Advice for Wealth Managers32:24 Evergreen Fund Structures33:16 Navigating the Evergreen Environment34:29 Portfolio Construction in Private Markets35:25 Operational Benefits of Evergreen Funds36:05 Model Portfolios in Wealth Management36:53 Favorite and Contrarian Investment Ideas38:49 Real Estate Market Opportunities39:09 Large vs. Niche Real Estate Managers39:52 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsDisclosure from KrilogyInvestments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results. Be sure to first consult with a qualified financial advisor and/or tax professional before implementing any strategy discussed herein.Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with a private equity pioneer who has seen the industry evolve in the forty plus years he’s spent in private markets.We sat down with Steve Klinsky, the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of New Mountain Capital, which he started in 1999, and has grown to over $55B AUM with an investment platform that spans strategies across Private Equity, Credit, and Net Lease Real Estate.Steve was the Co-Founder of the Leverage Buyout Group at Goldman Sachs from 1981-1984, where he helped execute over $3B of transactions for Goldman and its clients. He then joined Forstmann Little and Co. as an Associate Partner and General Partner, helping to oversee seven private equity and debt partnerships totaling over $10B in capital.He has since built New Mountain Capital into a leading alternative asset manager that has charted a growth path. Yet the firm has remained true to its roots and mindset of its “family business background,” which has informed how New Mountain has partnered with both GPs and LPs, and it's a DNA that is central to their recent rollout of a wealth solutions business.Steve and I had a fascinating discussion about the evolution of private markets and how to build a leading alternative asset manager that helps build businesses. We covered:How private markets have changed since Steve began in the industry.What it means to build “great businesses.”How the mindset of the “family business background” has helped inform investment strategy and deepening LP relationships.How Steve and New Mountain have navigated scaling the firm while focusing on generating returns for LPs.How New Mountain has approached launching new strategies.The why and how behind launching a wealth solutions business.Thanks Steve for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise on private markets.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Message from our sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions01:23 Podcast Theme and Opening02:03 Guest Introduction: Steve Klinsky04:00 Steve's Early Career in Private Equity05:39 The Evolution of Private Equity06:55 Forstmann Little and Co. Experience07:36 Founding New Mountain Capital08:08 New Mountain's Investment Philosophy08:25 Family Business Influences08:56 New Mountain's Cultural Values09:13 Working with Entrepreneurs and Management Teams10:15 Scaling New Mountain Capital13:35 Investment Strategies and Talent14:45 Opportunities and Challenges in Private Equity15:03 Mid-Market Focus and Growth Opportunities16:10 Impact of Industry Growth on Mid-Market Firms16:50 Product Innovation in Private Markets18:40 Synergy Between Investment Strategies20:20 Growth and Future of New Mountain Capital21:10 Engaging the Wealth Channel21:40 Building the New Mountain Brand23:07 New Mountain's Edge and Performance24:20 Engaging the Wealth Channel25:50 Customization and Differentiation in Wealth Management27:17 Strategies for Wealth Channel Engagement27:39 Productization for the Wealth Channel28:05 Industry Evolution and Consolidation28:40 Wealth Channel vs Institutional Channel29:44 Institutional Side of Private Markets29:59 Historical Perspective on Institutional Changes30:47 Challenges and Investment Strategies for the Wealth Channel32:03 Investment Lessons34:48 Common Threads in Successful Investments35:53 Leveraging AI and Technology in Investments37:56 Value Creation in Services Businesses38:42 Effective Value Creation Levers39:38 Growth and Team Building at New Mountain41:04 Starting New Mountain in 199943:00 Navigating Market Turbulence44:57 Private Markets vs Public Markets45:53 Lessons from Private Markets for Public Investors47:47 Importance of Price in Investing49:24 Building a Strong Team50:05 Global Investment Strategies50:47 Future Investment Excitement51:58 Focus on Wealth Channel52:13 Growth in Secondaries and Continuation Vehicles52:42 Industry Evolution and Firm Growth53:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts  Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today we sit down with a technology and fund services veteran who has worked with many of the industry’s largest asset managers.Cesar Estrada is Private Markets Head at Arcesium, a global financial technology company delivering pre- and post-investment operations and enterprise data management solutions designed to systematize the most complex workflows.Arcesium was built from a platform developed and tested by investment and technology development firm, the D. E. Shaw Group, and launched as a joint venture with Blackstone Alternative Asset Management. J.P. Morgan, another large client, later made a strategic investment in the company, helping Arcesium further its mission: to power the entire investment lifecycle.Cesar is responsible for Arcesium’s data management and investment operations technology and services offered to private markets fund managers and investors. Previously, he served as Senior Managing Director and Alternatives Business Head for North America at State Street — a role in which he drove the growth agenda for a business with approximately $1 trillion in Assets Under Administration by leading new product launches, expansion into new client segments, strategic partnerships, and acquisitions. He served on the board of State Street Fund Services Inc. Prior to that, as a Managing Director at J.P. Morgan, Cesar led the Private Equity & Real Estate Funds Services business from launch to $350B AUA.Cesar and I had a fascinating conversation about the impact of technology and automation on private markets. We discussed:What private markets going mainstream means for pre- and post-investment operations.Why alternative asset managers need to have technology solutions to manage, track, and analyze data and workflows if they want to scale.The biggest challenges that alternative asset managers face as they handle the increase in data management, more funds, and more investors.What technology or workflow solutions are still missing.How much AI will impact technology workflows in private markets.Why ABF has become such an important part of the private credit ecosystem.Thanks Cesar for coming on the show to share your wisdom and experience in private markets.Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.You can also see a recent Q&A with Cesar on AGM here.If you want to learn how Arcesium is delivering the technological infrastructure required to manage the complexities of asset-based financing, you can download their white paper here and read thoughts on the asset-based finance space from Arcesium’s Private Markets Head and industry veteran Cesar Estrada.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast00:39 Guest Introduction: Cesar Estrada02:37 Cesar's Background02:57 Cesar's Career Path03:35 Evolution of Fund Services Industry04:49 Arcesium's Core Competencies05:06 Technology in Private Markets05:27 Arcesium's Joint Venture Origins06:12 Technology Architecture07:11 Client-Centric Ownership Model07:18 Building for the Biggest07:46 Solving Complex Problems08:44 Challenges and Solutions in Data Management10:28 Data Silos in Asset Management10:53 Roadblocks to Technology Adoption11:41 Operations and Technology Bottlenecks12:31 Strategic Imperatives for Growth14:20 Hiring and Strategy in Asset Management15:55 Point Solutions vs. End-to-End Solutions17:27 Role of the CTO18:21 Build vs. Buy Decision19:22 Investment Team's Understanding of Technology19:22 The Impact of AI and Future Innovations20:07 Technology's Leverage for Smaller Firms21:36 Consolidation in Private Markets22:22 Technology for Scaling Firms22:40 Flexibility in Private Markets23:05 Technology in Private Credit and ABF25:35 Volume Problem in ABF25:55 Data Ecosystem in ABF27:10 Wealth Channel and Evergreen Products28:04 Product Innovation in Private Markets28:45 Future of Private Markets30:05 Technology Selection Process30:51 User Experience in Technology31:40 Consumer Experience in Private Markets33:06 Hands-On Technology Evaluation33:42 Reducing Operational Headcount34:02 Gen AI in Asset Management35:33 Future Impact of Gen AI36:20 Marrying People and Technology37:01 Next Phase in Asset Management Technology39:16 Cesar's Personal Investment Views40:40 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.