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Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.What happens when two podcasters walk into a room? They talk.Today’s podcast turns the tables on one of the industry’s leading podcasters and content creators to have him share his story and experience as an allocator and content creator. We sat down with Ted Seides, the Founder of industry-leading podcast Capital Allocators and former President and Co-CIO of Protégé Partners and an asset allocator at the Yale Endowment.Ted has had a tremendous career at the intersection of asset allocation and content, so it was fascinating to hear his perspectives on the state of the industry and how it’s evolving from someone who talks with many of the industry’s leading minds through his podcast, Capital Allocators.Ted and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:Stories and lessons learned from working with David Swensen at the Yale Endowment.What the wealth channel can learn from institutional investors.What Ted looked for in hedge funds and alternative asset managers when doing manager due diligence.Ted’s bet with Buffett on hedge funds and why he’s now doing a bet on PE versus public equities.How alternative asset managers are evolving and the pros and cons of evergreen structures.Why and how Ted started Capital Allocators and why content is so critical to learning asset management and understanding how firms operate.Capital Allocators is one of my favorite podcast listens and Ted always delivers with high-quality and thoughtful content so it was an honor to have him on the show.Thanks Ted for sharing your expertise and wisdom on asset allocation and content and for the service you provide to everyone in the industry through education and the creation of such high-quality content for us to consume.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Juniper Square00:38 Juniper Square's AI Capabilities01:40 Guest Introduction: Ted Seides04:03 Lessons from Yale Endowment04:46 David Swensen's Investment Principles05:51 Evolution of the Endowment Model05:58 Wealth Channel vs. Institutional Investors08:09 Access to Top Managers11:16 Alpha in Private Markets12:32 Ted's Bet with Buffett13:10 Private Equity vs. Public Equities17:16 Private Equity Diversification18:45 Hedge Fund Industry Lessons20:07 Private Equity Fee Structures24:03 Talent Migration in Private Markets26:47 Evaluating Investment Culture27:15 Investment Philosophy and Strategy28:26 Ted's Approach to Manager Evaluation29:46 Impact of AI on Diligence Processes30:20 Defining Investment Edge30:33 Behavioral and Analytical Edge31:01 Informational and Technical Edge31:27 Evaluating Investment Managers31:37 Impactful Investment Decisions31:52 Mistakes and Learning32:53 The Hardest Time to Invest34:14 Behavioral Biases in Investing34:51 Decision-Making Processes36:28 The Role of AI in Investing38:07 Content and Investment Decisions39:25 Starting Capital Allocators41:00 Learning from Podcasting43:40 Building a Business from a Podcast45:26 The Value of Relationships in Investing47:06 Content Strategy for Managers49:44 Effective Content Modalities50:43 Direct Communication vs. Algorithms51:13 Brand vs. Direct Sales52:35 Insights from Podcast Conversations54:23 Favorite Private Market Investments56:05 AI and Investment Perspectives57:37 Partnering with AI Experts58:12 The Importance of People in Investing Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is about mining for investment success in enterprise software by going “an inch wide and a mile deep” with someone who is one of the industry’s most prolific private equity technology investors.We sat down with Nic Humphries in Hg’s London office. Nic is the Senior Partner and Executive Chairman of Hg and Head of the firm’s Saturn fund.Hg, one of the top 10 largest PE firms globally based on the PEI300 ranking, has built an impressive investment engine focused on mission-critical enterprise software. The firm has built a portfolio that is a “transatlantic ecosystem of software and services businesses” — representing over $180B in collective enterprise value across its 55 portfolio companies.Nic is responsible for Hg’s strategy, management, and governance. On the investing side, Nic focuses on larger software investments that provide daily-use mission critical applications for accountants, tax / compliance professionals, and designers / engineers / scientists. He has brought his electrical engineering background to bear to go a “mile deep” into a category where Hg has become an unquestioned market leader.Nic balances being both a detail-oriented specialist with a vision for both the enterprise software industry and Hg as a firm. We had a fascinating discussion about enterprise software investing, how to create European software giants, applying AI to make companies more efficient, and much more.We covered:The origin story of Hg.How Hg grew into one of the industry’s leading software focused private equity firms.How an engineering mindset has helped Nic become a leading investor.Why Hg focuses on mission-critical enterprise software and why it’s a compelling investment thesis.Why enterprise software investing can be considered a low volatility investment strategy and how Hg has delivered consistent returns to investors.How to effectively manage exits and DPI.Why Europe, why now?How AI could impact technology and services businesses.Thanks Nic for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise about enterprise software and private markets.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Juniper SquareWhen was the last time things were easy for GPs?Fundraising remains challenging, providing liquidity to investors is even harder—and broadly speaking, most GPs are underwater operationally.It’s not about to get easier, either. Especially for managers vying for capital from the wealth channel. Sure, there’s increased demand from HNW and UNHW investors to gain private markets exposure…but managing their expectations for the investing experience is a whole different ballgame.Reams of paper and a new KYC process every single time they subscribe to a fund? Brutal.But what if committing capital to private equity, venture, and real estate funds was digital and seamless for investors — and scalable to manage for GPs?Meet Juniper Square, the fund operations partner to over 2,000 private markets GPs worldwide.Juniper Square gives GPs the connected software, data, and fund administration services needed for modern private markets. No matter how ambitious your next raise is, how many investors you manage, and how complex your investment vehicles are, Juniper Square empowers GPs to raise capital faster, reduce operational risk, and deliver a world-class investor experience.And with JunieAI, Juniper Square's enterprise-grade AI built for private markets, GPs can truly and finally unlock the power of AI to work smarter, move faster, and focus on relationships and returns.Scale your business, not your operational burdens and costs. Visit junipersquare.com/agm today to learn more.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Juniper Square01:40 Introducing Nic Humphries01:56 Hg's Investment Strategy04:03 Nic's Background and Career Journey04:46 Engineering Mindset in Investing05:14 Long-Term Business Thinking05:58 Hg's Focus on Accounting Software06:45 Growth Drivers in SMB Market09:05 Impact of AI on Enterprise Software09:34 Platform Shifts in Technology11:10 Adapting to AI in Business12:15 Mission Critical Software14:02 Challenges of AI Integration14:58 Embedding Products and Services17:13 Organic Growth vs. Acquisitions20:51 Geographical Expansion Strategies21:59 European vs. North American Markets23:30 Management Teams and Expansion24:32 Jurisdictional Challenges in Europe25:05 Hg's Investment Philosophy25:50 Mission Critical Software in Europe36:22 Hg's Consistent Investment Returns38:00 Conclusion and Final Thoughts40:13 Understanding Recurring Revenues40:59 The Importance of Discipline in Investing41:48 Learning from Past Experiences43:30 Maintaining Excitement and Focus45:26 The Role of Realization Committees46:44 Continuous Improvement Culture47:42 The Importance of Cash Returns48:51 Exit Strategies and Realization Committees50:32 Re-underwriting Investments52:40 AI's Impact on Software Development54:17 The Rule of 40 and AI54:38 Investing in AI: Startups vs. Established Businesses55:59 Hg's Growth Strategy58:56 Specialization in B2B Back Office Software01:01:35 Fund Structure and Management01:03:27 Expanding into the Wealth Channel01:03:48 Hg Capital Trust and Fusion Fund01:05:27 Communicating with a Broader Audience01:06:39 The Importance of Brand in Wealth Management01:07:32 Connecting Private Markets to Everyday Life01:09:36 The Prevalence of Private Companies01:11:09 Aligning Interests with Investors01:12:19 Investment Decisions and Long-term Growth01:14:21 Future Growth Opportunities for Hg01:16:38 The Role of AI in Future Investments Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.DisclaimerThe views and opinions expressed in this episode are those of the speaker and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any affiliated organization.Any references to past performance, including IRR or MOIC figures, are presented on a gross basis and do not reflect the deduction of fees, expenses, or carried interest. 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Peter Aliprantis, EQT Partner and Head of Private Wealth Americas, shares his extensive expertise from 25 years in private wealth solutions, including insights from his time at TPG Angelo Gordon. He discusses why investors are pivoting towards private markets, particularly in Europe and Asia, contrasted with challenges in the U.S. Aliprantis highlights the rising importance of evergreen investment structures and model portfolios, emphasizing their potential to transform private market investments and meet the evolving needs of affluent clients.

Winston Justice, a former NFL offensive lineman turned CEO of SageSpring Private Wealth, shares his journey from the gridiron to finance. He discusses the parallels between sports and wealth management, emphasizing the importance of trust and client relationships. Winston highlights the changing mindset of athletes preparing for life beyond sports and the role of mentorship in wealth management. He also explores the innovative strategies for engaging younger clients and the unique fiduciary approach that sets his firm apart in a shifting financial landscape.

Future Proof, which holds one of the industry’s largest wealth conferences, invited me to hold a live podcast earlier this year with Blue Owl Co-President and Global Head of Real Assets Marc Zahr. Marc is a pioneer in the real estate space, building Blue Owl into a market leader in the triple net lease strategy, a commercial real estate investment strategy that is becoming increasingly popular for real estate investors, tenants (think large corporates like Amazon, Walgreens, Dollar General), and investors alike.Blue Owl’s Real Assets business has over $67.1B AUM, owning over 5,600 assets and partnering with over 800 tenants. Marc founded Oak Street, the predecessor firm to Blue Owl, in 2009 with $17M AUM. Listening to Marc talk about the evolution of his career, building Oak Street, and running Blue Owl’s Real Assets platform, it’s no surprise to see why Marc and the firm have had success. His “myopic focus … perfecting his craft,” as he discussed in our conversation, his clarity of vision, and his ability to so clearly articulate his investment strategy and market opportunity have led to tremendous success for Oak Street, and now, Blue Owl.Marc and I had a fascinating and thought-provoking discussion that covered everything from the evolution of his firm, how and why he sold Oak Street to Blue Owl, the market opportunity in triple net lease real estate investing, why data center investing is a large market opportunity, how to build a high-performing investment culture, and much more.We discussed:The story of how Marc built Oak Street from a $17M real estate investment firm and grew it into Blue Owl’s $67B AUM Real Assets platform.Breaking down the triple net lease real estate investment strategy.Why the industry “isn’t even in the first inning” in the $20T addressable market in triple net lease real estate investing.Why data centers are a “once in a generation opportunity” due to capex supply / demand imbalance.How a bigger platform can help an asset manager scale its business.Why an evergreen structure can make sense and the story of how Blue Owl did so well with its triple net lease product on a private wealth platform that the private bank created their own product.The hardest part of educating the wealth channel on real estate and evergreen structures.Why private wealth is the biggest opportunity in the future. The advice Marc would give to someone trying to build the next great asset manager.Thanks Marc for sharing your wisdom, expertise, and thoughtful and nuanced perspectives on private markets and real estate. 

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with someone who has successfully built a wealth solutions business tailored to her firm’s unique strengths, expertise, and investment track record.Martina Sanow is a Partner and Head of Hg Wealth, where she is focused on building the firm’s wealth solutions offering built out of the $85B AUM firm, Hg, that invests in enterprise software.Hg, one of the top 10 largest PE firms globally based on the PEI 300 ranking, has built an impressive investment engine focused mission-critical enterprise software companies. The firm has built a portfolio that is a “transatlantic ecosystem of software and services businesses” — representing over $180B in collective enterprise value across its 55 portfolio companies.Martina has been at the firm for almost 16 years. She has been an integral part of building the firm into what it is today, helping Hg grow from $2B in AUM to $85B in AUM, previously as Deputy COO and now building the Hg Wealth business. Hg’s first wealth offering, Fusion, its flagship evergreen fund that provides access to non-US investors to Hg’s private equity funds and co-investment opportunities, has exceeded $1B in NAV just 12 months after its launch.Martina is thoughtful, strategic, and long-term oriented when it comes to building a solution that amplifies Hg’s strengths and resonates with the wealth channel. We had a fascinating discussion about how a scaled specialist like Hg can stand out in the wealth channel, unpacking the essence of who Hg is as a firm and how they’ve expressed who they are as they’ve built their wealth business.We covered:Hg’s evolution as a firm.Why Hg focuses on mission-critical enterprise software companies and why it’s a compelling investment thesis.Building a wealth business that fits the mission, ethos, and strategy of the firm.Understanding the complexity of evergreen funds.How Martina and team think about managing dealflow and investor demand in their Fusion fund.Learnings applied from HgTrust, the publicly listed UK investment trust, to figuring out how to educate and build brand in the wealth channel.Why does ownership structure matter when it comes to building a wealth business? How being privately owned informs how Hg builds their wealth business.Why Europe, why now?Thanks Martina for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise at the intersection of enterprise software, private equity, and private wealth.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Message from Ultimus, our Sponsor01:55 Welcome to the Podcast01:58 Introducing Martina Sanow04:36 Martina's Background and Experience05:10 Hg's Specialization in Software05:57 Building a Team and Culture06:54 Importance of Cognitive Diversity07:26 Building a Diverse Team09:28 Innovating in Wealth Business10:14 Hg's Strategic Mindset11:51 Hg's Entrepreneurial Journey12:00 Maintaining Entrepreneurial Culture13:10 Specialization in B2B Software14:47 Focus on DPI and Cash Back16:17 Criteria for A-Quality Businesses16:58 Investing in Mission Critical Software18:11 Visma Case Study19:23 Challenges and Opportunities in Europe33:13 Evergreen Structures: Impact on Investment Teams33:44 Balancing Capital Raising and Deal Flow34:13 Investment Strategies and Allocation34:54 Managing Subscriptions and Demand35:53 Balancing Wealth and Institutional Demand36:06 Privately Owned Firm Benefits36:37 Realization Committee and Evergreen Structures37:52 Long-Term Company Partnerships39:11 Liquidity Management Challenges39:55 Investor Strategies for Evergreen Funds41:40 Institutional Adoption of Evergreen Funds42:48 Evolution of Institutional Mindset43:26 Retail vs. Wealth Investors44:01 Listed Trust and Wealth Business Insights45:54 Building the Wealth Business47:29 Strategic Importance of Wealth Capital48:54 Innovation in Wealth Management49:28 Partnerships and Holistic Solutions50:58 Future of Wealth Management Products52:44 Brand Building and Education55:00 Software as a Core Investment56:19 Community and Founder Investments59:28 Value Creation and Network Benefits01:00:15 Portfolio Synergies and Acquisitions01:01:36 Concluding Thoughts and Favorite InvestmentsEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s conversation dives into the current state of private markets through the lens of one of the leading GP stakes firms in the industry.We sat down with Partner and Global Co-Head of the Petershill Group at Goldman Sachs Robert Hamilton Kelly. Petershill takes minority equity stakes in established and newly-established alternative asset managers. Across its different investment vehicles, Petershill participates in the fee income from over 200 underlying funds from alternative asset management firms that are diversified across asset class, investment strategy, and investment lifecycle.Petershill’s Partner firms have well in excess of $340B in aggregate AUM and they’ve partnered with a number of the top firms and some of the industry's most recognizable names in the middle market and upper end of the market, including Clearlake, Francisco Partners, Permira, Accel-KKR, General Catalyst, Kayne Anderson Real Estate, Kennedy Lewis, and more.Rob and I had a fascinating conversation on GP stakes and the evolution of alternative asset management. We discussed:The what, why, and how of GP stakes.The benefits and drawbacks of GP stakes investing for GPs and LPs.What makes a great GP.The question of liquidity in GP stakes.Why Petershill has generally focused on middle-market alternative asset managers.How private markets will continue to evolve and the growing importance of the wealth channel in the evolution of asset management.Thanks Rob for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise in private markets and GP stakes. We hope you enjoy.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message01:18 Podcast Opening and Theme02:06 Guest Introduction: Robert Hamilton Kelly03:32 Rob's Boat Racing Experience03:45 Parallels Between Boat Racing and Private Markets04:57 Current State of Private Markets05:14 Impact of Policy Changes on Private Markets06:53 Growth of the Private Markets Industry07:09 Early Days of Petershill07:26 Goldman's Role in Alternative Asset Management09:26 Valuing GP Stakes and Alternative Asset Managers10:01 Insights on Alternative Asset Managers12:36 Valuing GP Stakes13:22 Data-Driven Investment Strategies15:34 Management Fees and Performance Fees16:28 Growth and Evolution of Firms23:16 Strategic Imperatives for Growth26:15 Managerial Skills and Industry Dynamics30:55 Commercialization in Platform Management31:07 Challenges and Opportunities in Capital Raising31:53 Industry Consolidation Predictions32:29 Growth and Consolidation in Private Markets33:31 The Role of Mid-Market Firms34:15 GP Stakes and Wealth Channel Access36:12 Goldman's Unique Platform and Services37:57 The Importance of Strategic Advice39:39 Common Challenges for GPs40:33 Evolving LP and GP Stakes Dynamics40:44 Why LPs Invest in GP Stakes42:00 Income Generation and Capital Growth42:49 Diversification in GP Stakes43:05 Private Markets Exposure44:01 Entry Points into Private Markets45:07 Long-Term Exposure and Portfolio Construction47:00 Investing in Private Credit48:10 Evaluating GP Stakes Investments49:38 Data and Performance in GP Stakes52:04 Growth Path of Private Markets52:23 Valuing Alternative Asset Managers55:41 Liquidity in GP Stakes57:09 Structural Changes in GP Stakes57:35 The Evolution of Private Markets58:11 Future of Venture and Growth Sectors58:56 Private Credit Products and Market Share59:29 Maturation of Private Markets59:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Welcome to the 17th episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream. We were live from iCapital Connect’s conference in Phoenix to dive into the most pressing trends at the intersection of private markets and wealth management —and unpack how wealth management firms are utilizing private markets to build out or enhance their practice.In this episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, iCapital Managing Partner and Co-Head of iCapital Solutions, Steve Houston, and I are joined by Eric Harrison, Founding Partner of IEQ Capital.IEQ, managing close to $40B in AUM, has been an innovator from the start. Private markets — and a customized approach to investing in private markets — are a core part of the IEQ offering — and they’ve differentiated the firm as a result.Eric and Steve shared a number of thought-provoking perspectives on wealth management and how advisors and clients can approach allocating to private markets as part of a holistic asset allocation framework.Thanks Eric and Steve for a great episode … looking forward to the next Monthly Alts Pulse conversation!Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction00:24 Experiences in Private Banking01:28 Independent Advisors and Private Markets01:46 IEQ Capital's Approach to Private Markets03:33 Scaling and Research in Alternative Investments05:48 Client Experience and Customization07:35 Technology and Tax Strategy10:46 Innovative Ideas in Private Markets13:13 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Ivan Zinn, Managing Director at Blue Owl Capital, showcases his expertise in alternative credit and asset-based finance. He shares insights on the evolution of private credit since the early 2000s, detailing shifts from traditional banking to innovative lending structures. Zinn draws fascinating parallels between long-distance running and the finance sector, highlighting the resilience required in both fields. He discusses the importance of counterparty risk, data analytics, and the adaptive nature of markets, making complex financial topics engaging and relatable.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with the CIO of an insurance company responsible for more than $300B in assets and a major focus on private markets.Lincoln Financial EVP and CIO Jayson Bronchetti and I sat down recently at Lincon Financial’s headquarters in Radnor, Pennsylvania to discuss the increasing involvement of insurance companies in private markets.Jayson, who is a member of Lincoln Financial’s Senior Management Committee and serves as the primary investment officer to Lincoln’s Board of Directors on all investment-related matters, is responsible for more than $300B in assets across the general account portfolio and the separate account mutual fund complex. He’s also chairman of the board of directors of the Lincoln Variable Insurance Product Trust family of over 100 mutual funds. He's also on the board of the Lincoln Financial Foundation.Fresh off recent partnerships with Bain Capital and Partners Group on private markets investment products and Bain Capital taking a stake in Lincoln’s business, Jayson and I had a fascinating conversation about how insurance companies can approach private markets and how they can build unique and differentiated partnerships with asset managers.We discussed:The evolving role of insurance companies as LPs in private markets.Why asset and liability matching is a critical framework to allocating to private markets.How the general account of an insurance company creates interesting opportunities for strategic relationships and partnerships with alternative asset managers.The benefit of having a business that works with financial advisors and individuals.The importance of educating wholesalers about private markets – and why insurance wholesalers might have an advantage in educating advisors and clients about private markets products and strategies.Thanks Jayson for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise about private markets and insurance.Subscribe to Alt Goes Mainstream to receive the weekly newsletter every Sunday and all of AGM’s podcasts.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at gharris@ultimusfundsolutions.com.We thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:40 Introduction to Jayson Bronchetti02:20 Sponsor Message: Ultimus Fund Solutions03:37 Welcome to the Podcast04:03 Jayson's Background in Private Markets04:57 Evolution of Insurance Companies in Private Markets06:37 Symbiotic Relationship Between GPs and Insurers08:40 Understanding Liquidity and Illiquidity11:19 Diligencing Private Markets Managers13:25 Balancing Scale and Performance14:09 Boots on the Ground: Sourcing Edge14:42 Evolution of Alternative Asset Managers14:53 Lincoln's Unique Position in the Market19:32 Strategic Partnerships with Bain and Partners Group20:03 The Value of Distribution Relationships22:14 The Democratization of Alternative Investments22:49 The Intersection of Private Markets, Wealth, and Insurance23:10 Approaching Private Markets with the General Account24:18 Launching Strategies with Bain and Partners Group24:50 Incubating New Strategies for Retail Consumers25:16 Building a Customized Investment Strategy25:45 Designing Purposeful Investment Funds26:00 Ensuring Accessibility and Proper Wrappers26:08 Liquidity and Product Matching26:15 Seeding Strategies with the General Account26:58 One Lincoln Approach27:12 Finding Opportunities in the Seams27:46 Balancing General Account and Distribution Needs28:07 Product Innovation in the Wealth Channel28:53 Healthy Tension in Product Design31:51 Importance of Asset Liability Management33:05 Educating the Distribution Team34:47 Training Modules for Wholesalers36:28 Boots on the Ground: The Power of Relationships37:45 Simplifying Complex Products40:44 Democratizing Alternative Investments41:10 Straddling Institutional and Individual Mindsets41:35 Integrating Private Markets into Retirement Products43:13 Future of Private Markets in Retirement Portfolios43:57 Product Innovation and Technology45:15 Private Markets in Insurance Products47:16 Focus on Private Credit49:38 Risks in Private Credit50:29 Excitement for the Future of Private Markets51:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Disclosure from Lincoln Financial Registration statements for each of the evergreen funds have been filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and are available from the EDGAR database on the SEC's website (www.sec.gov). The information in the registration statements is not complete and may be changed. The securities of neither fund may be sold until its registration statement is effective. An investor should consider the investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses of each fund carefully before investing. This and other information about each fund will be contained in the fund's final prospectus, which investors should read carefully when available from t...