
Free Cities Podcast
The official podcast of the Free Cities Foundation hosted by Timothy Allen.
Timothy conducts in-person, long-form discussions with the preeminent thought leaders in the Free Cities ecosystem, including builders, investors, residents, entrepreneurs & people who value liberty & prosperity for all. Everyone is welcome, especially skeptics.
Topics: Private Cities, Pioneer Communities, Charter Cities, Seasteading, Homesteading, Libertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Bitcoin, Economics, Geopolitics, Flag Theory, Homeschooling, Technology, Free Markets & Digital Nomadism.
New episodes every Friday.
Latest episodes

May 3, 2024 • 55min
076 - Andreas Baumgartner: Integrated Autonomous Cities & The Evolution of SEZs
Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Special Zones, Tipolis, International Cities, Autononous Zones, Evolution of Special Economic Zones.
Timothy Allen talks with Andreas Baumgartner.
I have another returning guest for you today. The last time I spoke with Andreas Baumgartner was back in episode 32 where we discussed the ins and outs of negotiating with governments, something that Andreas does on behalf of Free Cities projects and organisations such as the Metis Institute, Praxis and, relevant in this conversation: Tipolis which is Titus Gebel’s organisation that creates privately run communities.
This conversation was recorded during one of our interviews for the Special Economic Zones film we are producing and afterwards I continued talking to Andreas about Tipolis and their ‘International Cities’ projects. I’ve spliced both interviews together but you may observe that the latter part of the podcast is a bit more question/answer than is normal on this podcast since I was fishing for soundbites for a film. Nevertheless I thought there was some good info in there for all you Free Cities enthusiasts so I’ve left it in.
Hope you enjoy the dialogue. Andreas is one of the OGs of the space and has more hands on experience than most.
Enjoy the conversation.
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TIMESTAMPS
(00:30) Introduction
(02:40) Special economic zones are zones of opportunity
(04:49) How does a country decide on which SEZ trajectory to angle itself?
(06:25) Evolutionary stages of Special Economic Zones
(11:15) How can Dubai innovate its zones?
(12:25) Is there a sweet spot on the level of autonomy for Free Zones?
(22:46) What's your best advice for governments thinking of establishing a zone?
(25:48) What is at ther cutting edge of zones right now?
(29:41) More on the evolutionary stages of Special Economic Zones
(32:36) Is an SEZ an essential part of a nation state toolkit for growth?
(34:39) Where are the greatest opportunities in free zones?
(36:28) Do you think the brain drain is a real thing?
(43:50) A key aspect of autonomous cities is voluntarily opting into them
(46:26) Tipolis is developing International Cities, Building privately governed, autonomous communities
(51:05) Are Tipolis's International Cities new frontiers?
(52:20) Are integrated autonomous cities the zeitgeist of this age?
TWITTER:
Andreas Baumgartner: https://twitter.com/fDiIntelligence
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
OTHER LINKS:
Andreas's previous appearance on the podcast: https://tinyurl.com/yck45fwd
fDi Intelligence: https://www.fdiintelligence.com/
Tipolis: https://tipolis.com/
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/

Apr 26, 2024 • 1h 21min
075 - Zuby: Responsibility, Discipline & Choosing Liberty
Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Liberty, Rights & Responsibilties, Democracy, Social Credit Scores, Freedom, Discipline, Governance, Brain Drain.
Timothy Allen talks with Nzube Udezue.
We’re back in the UAE again this week, where I was lucky enough to sit down with a gentleman by the name of Nzube Udezue. Of course, you will probably know him by his stage name, Zuby, he's a highly influential rapper, podcaster and interestingly for me, a current resident of Dubai.
Zuby has a deep connection with the Middle East, growing up as he did in Saudi Arabia and in this conversation we discuss, amongst other things the pros and cons of living in the region along with some thoughts on liberty, rights and responsibilities, discipline, governance and how to find freedom in an unfree world.
Enjoy the conversation.
TIMESTAMPS:
(0:30) Introduction.
(2:26) Saudi Arabia and its perceptions, with a personal account of growing up there as an expat.
(8:00) Moving to Dubai, with emphasis on personal experiences and familiarity with the region.
(13:34) The growth of Dubai and the democratization of information.
(16:28) How perceptions of cities and nations change over time.
(22:28) Dubai's appeal as a hub for business, travel, and lifestyle.
(27:38) The UAE's long-term vision and planning, with a focus on diversifying the economy and attracting talent.
(32:06) Government barriers to progress.
(34:45) Democracy's flaws and the need for balance in political systems.
(40:15) Governance models, with a focus on the dangers of absolute power and the importance of individual responsibility.
(44:28) The challenges of imposing a single governance model on diverse cultures.
(50:18) Digital social credit scores, potential risks and drawbacks.
(54:50) The complexities of liberty and freedom, with conflicting views on their importance and prioritization.
(59:33) The complexities of freedom and how it relates to personal values, discipline, and geographical location.
(1:05:24) Natural rights, responsibilities, and balancing individual freedoms with societal needs.
(1:10:54) Why people are leaving the UK, including weather, taxes, and stagnation.
(1:12:15) Why did you leave the UK?
Make a small weekly donation to support the show:
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Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
LIBERTY IN OUR LIFETIME CONFERENCE: https://libertyinourlifetime.org/
TWITTER:
Zuby: https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
OTHER LINKS:
Zuby: https://www.zubymusic.com/
Real Talk with Zuby (Podcast): https://www.zubymusic.com/podcast
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/

Apr 19, 2024 • 1h 33min
074 - Stephan Livera: State Competitiveness, Bitcoin ETFs & The Demise of the West
Dubai, SEZs, Special Zones, State Competitiveness, Monarchy, Multiculturalism, Nation State Lifecycles, Bitcoin ETFs, UTXO consolidation, Michael Saylor, Savings Technology.
Timothy Allen talks with Stephan Livera.
I've got another dispatch from Dubai for you this week and its also another returning guest, Stephan Livera.
The last time we spoke was way back in episode 04, over a year ago when I ran into him in El Salvador. This week, we’re on his home territory, well adoptive home at least. He relocated to the UAE two years ago and in this conversation we discuss that move and why the Emirates have been so successful at attracting foreign talent over the last few years.
Other topics discussed include the demise of the western world, monarchies, multiculturalism, inflation and Stephan gives us a roundup of the all latest developments in the world of Bitcoin.
Enjoy the conversation.
TIMESTAMPS:
(0:30) Introduction
(7:50) El Salvador's potential to become a "Singapore of Central America" through economic zones and Bitcoin city, with mentions of Dubai.
(10:57) Brain drain, opportunities in Dubai, and lifestyle differences between Dubai and Sydney.
(17:51) Dubai's position as a global hub, with insights on its advantages and disadvantages.
(21:00) Governance, regulation, and property rights in different countries.
(27:00) The capture of institutions and the impact on minority rights.
(29:41) Long-term vs short-term thinking in politics and society.
(35:58) Making friends and networking in Dubai, with a focus on the city's multiculturalism and lack of political turmoil.
(42:09) Attracting and retaining top talent in countries like UAE and El Salvador.
(44:58) The economic development and competitiveness of the Middle East, particularly Saudi Arabia and the UAE.
(50:42) Advantages of smaller states for liberty and alternatives to one-world government.
(53:27) Autonomy, secession, and Bitcoin developments in 2024.
(59:07) The future of Bitcoin's layered structure, with a focus on Lightning Network and custodial services.
(1:03:01) Bitcoin's scalability and layered approach, potential for high fees, and the importance of consolidating UTXOs.
(1:09:18) Bitcoin ETFs, privacy trade-offs, and investment strategies.
(1:13:22) Bitcoin as a savings technology, ETFs driving adoption, and inflation concerns.
(1:18:37) Bitcoin's potential price increase to mid-six figures, with mention of past cycles and potential for an 80% drop.
(1:24:45) Michael Saylor's views on Bitcoin, philanthropy, and the future of education.
Make a small weekly donation to support the show:
https://www.patreon.com/FreeCitiesPodcast/
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
LIBERTY IN OUR LIFETIME CONFERENCE: https://libertyinourlifetime.org/
TWITTER:
Stephan Livera: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
OTHER LINKS:
Stephan Livera: https://stephanlivera.com/
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
Stephan's previous appearance on this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-free-cities-pod/episodes/004---Stephan-Livera-Bitcoin--Flag-Theory--Voting-With-Your-Feet-e1sbhrj/a-a92ao87
Stephan's Interview with Titus Gebel can be found here: https://stephanlivera.com/episode/417/
Stephan's Bitcoin Magazine article 'Bitcoin and the Free Cities Movement' can be found here: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/bitcoin-enables-the-free-cities-movement

Apr 12, 2024 • 1h 5min
073 - Peter Young: Special Economic Zones, Autonomy and the Future of Free Cities
SEZs, Free Zones, Autonomous Cities, Shannon, China, Shenzhen, Dubai, UAE, Special Economic Zones, Honduras, Prospera, Democracy, Free Cities, International Cities.
Timothy Allen talks with Peter Young.
Today I have the Free Cities Foundation's managing director Peter Young back for another episode. This time we’re talking about SEZs, free zones and autonomous cities. We’re basically giving you the 101 on what we discovered during the making of our film 'Zones of Progress’ in Dubai.
There are lots of great insights here into the evolution of free zones and what their future might look like if the trend continues. Peter is super knowledgable on the subject, so pay close attention and soak up all the insights. I personally think that understanding the history of SEZs is hugely important if you are interested in the establishment of new autonomous territories.
Look out too for my final penny drop moment with the concept of democracy: It's been a long journey for me on that subject, but it now appears that I may be ready to tackle Hans-Hermann Hoppe's 'Democracy, the God that Failed”.
Enjoy the conversation.
TIMESTAMPS:
0:30 - Introduction.
5:37 - Shannon Airport's history as a free zone and China's stance on special economic zones.
11:57 - China's economic transformation through special economic zones, particularly Shenzhen.
19:05 - China's economic zones and Dubai's special financial zone.
25:30 - Dubai treats its residents like customers.
39:33 - Attracting human capital is the zeitgeist.
38:55 - Free Cities will be sandboxes to explore alternatives to democracy.
43:14 - The history and reality of Charter Cities.
53:34 - The democratic system is high time preference.
57:54 - Peter's advice to governments thinking about setting up free zones.
Make a small weekly donation to support the show:
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Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
LIBERTY IN OUR LIFETIME CONFERENCE: https://libertyinourlifetime.org/
TWITTER:
Peter Young: https://twitter.com/petermiyoung
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
WEBSITES:
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
AI Summary of Episode:
Historical and modern special economic zones, with a focus on their autonomy and evolution.
Peter Young discusses special economic zones, free zones, and autonomous cities.
Historical special economic zones predate modern incarnation (1959)
Shannon Airport in Ireland was once a refueling stop for transatlantic flights, but now it's an industrial area with 10,000 workers.
Peter Young explains why special economic zones' policies were rolled back in Ireland.
China's stance on special economic zones and economic debate during the 20th century.
China experienced difficult political period under Mao, with internal debate on future leadership and economic development.
Shenzhen's rapid growth from 30,000 to 12 million people in 30 years, 10 times Chicago's rate, made it a model for China's national policy.
In Shenzhen, foreign direct investment was allowed with local partners, allowing for significant ownership in Chinese companies.
Land use rights were relaxed in Shenzhen, allowing for more construction and the first ever land use sale prior to 1987.
Peter Young: China tested policies in special economic zones before implementing nationwide.
Timothy Allen: Dubai's special economic zones evolved from China's model, with successful results.
Timothy Allen and Peter Young discuss the DIFC Dubai International Financial Centre, where the UAE government introduced English common law to attract international business and create high-paying jobs.
The DIFC has been successful in attracting 4300 companies and 36,000 employees, contributing significantly to Dubai's GDP.
Entrepreneurs and digital nomads in Dubai feel treated like customers rather than tax cattle.
Timothy Allen: Dubai's competitiveness forced govts to vie for citizens' business.
Peter Young: Intellectual capital, not physical equipment, drives today's economy.
Evolution of Special Economic Zones to include lifestyle and services, with private autonomous cities as a potential next step.
Peter Young argues governments should grant autonomy to regions to create thriving communities.
Peter Young argues that private companies operating with long-term ownership incentives can better align with the prosperity of a country's population.
He suggests allowing entrepreneurs to create businesses and invest in areas for a long-term future, with the right incentives in place.
Timothy Allen and Peter Young discuss the possibility of creating autonomous zones without democracy.
Peter Young and Timothy Allen discuss the concept of charter cities and how it was introduced in a TED talk by Paul Romer in 2009.
Peter Young highlights the importance of good governance and institutions for economic success.
Young suggests adopting rules and regulations from countries like Canada to improve economic development in less developed countries.
Peter Young agrees that there is risk from host government in private autonomous city idea.
Peter Young discusses options for creating societies prioritizing individual rights, including terra nullius, high seas, and working with existing governments.
Peter Young discusses the potential for international arbitration centers to resolve trade disputes and the role of treaties in protecting investors.
Investors should align with government objectives to create a win-win situation, but country's track record of reneging on agreements can be a deterrent.
Peter Young highlights the importance of impartial arbitration in attracting international investment.
Peter Young advises governments to establish unoccupied land for a free city, ensuring compatibility with the base economy.
Peter Young predicts more small political entities and free trade in the future.
Peter Young: Smaller political entities work better with closer governance, leading to more free trade and competition.
Young: More Special Economic Zones will emerge as consumers prefer global prices and cost-effective options.

Apr 5, 2024 • 1h 16min
072 - Fred Roeder: Dubai, Governance & The Evolution of Cities
Dubai, Evolution of Cities, USA Cities, Healthcare, Education, Pharmaceuticals, Saudi Arabia, Consumer Choice, Innovation, Democracy.
Timothy Allen talks with Fred Roeder.
Today I have another conversation for you that I recorded in Dubai. I am speaking with a gentleman by the name of Fred Roeder.
Fred is the managing director of the Consumer Choice Center which is a consumer advocacy group focusing on pro-growth policies or, as Fred put it: promoting abundance for consumers.
Fred is also a Dubai resident, having chosen to relocate there recently, so there’s a fair bit of chat in our conversation about the UAE and the benefits of living in the Middle East as well as subjects like the evolution of cities, governance incentives, innovative US cities, healthcare and we discuss the pros and cons of the democratic system.
Enjoy the conversation.
TIMESTAMPS:
(0:30) Introduction to episode.
(2:58) Who are you?
(6:56) Dubai is a platform.
(14:03) Dubai's leaders treat their citizens as customers.
(19:23) Does Dubai incentivise other governments to become more competitive?
(25:07) Do countries become inherently less attractive over time?
(31:29) Are any cities in the West innovating?
(38:09) What will Dubai innovate in the future?
(43:54) What happens when the state gets too big?.
(46:54) A new weight loss drug that reduces compulsiveness.
(54:08) Healthcare in Dubai and medical tourism.
(59:09) What is Dubai getting wrong?
(1:01:58) What is going on in Saudi Arabia?
(1:06:27) Pros and cons of the democratic process.
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Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
LIBERTY IN OUR LIFETIME CONFERENCE: https://libertyinourlifetime.org/
TWITTER:
Fred Roeder: https://twitter.com/FredCyrusRoeder
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
WEBSITES:
Consumer Choice Center: https://consumerchoicecenter.org/
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/

Mar 29, 2024 • 1h 11min
071 - Vera Kichanova: Private Cities, Russian Politics & Saudi Arabia
Private Cities, USA, Russia, Libertarianism, Honduran ZEDEs, Democracy, Monarchy, Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Neom, The line.
Timothy Allen talks with Vera Kichanova.
Today's show is a conversation I had with the Free Cities Foundation's very own senior economist, Vera Kichanova.
Obviously, we take a deep pretty dive into the subject of private cities. Vera received the first ever Phd in the subject. What you may not know about her, however is that she was Russia's first ever elected libertarian… so I had to ask about that too.
There’s also a sprinkling of Argentinian politics, some observations on the successes of the UAE and we discuss the current buzz around Saudi Arabia and the country's fascinating plans for future.
Enjoy the conversation
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:30) Introduction.
(03:12) What does a senior economist at the Free Cities foundation do?
(08:53) Where did the private cities idea come from?
(19:23) Anti development is mainly due to what's called the precautionary principle.
(20:33) Development, democracy vs monarchy.
(25:30) Do you think the problem with the democratic system is a problem of scale?
(26:24) Vera was the first member of the Russian Libertarian party ever elected.
(34:30) Why did you leave Russian politics?
(37:58) What's your take on Javier Milei being elected president of Argentina?
(43:28) How many people actually want freedom?
(54:56) Do free cities have to be a city?
(59:38) Many people think Dubai was built on oil. They're wrong.
(01:04:15) Neom and The Line in Saudi Arabia
(01:08:23) Do you think there will ever be private governance in Saudi Arabia?
Make a small weekly donation to support the show:
https://www.patreon.com/FreeCitiesPodcast
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
LIBERTY IN OUR LIFETIME CONFERENCE: https://libertyinourlifetime.org/
TWITTER:
Vera Kichanova: https://twitter.com/kichanova
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
WEBSITES:
Vera Kichanova: https://kichanova.com/
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/

Mar 22, 2024 • 1h 10min
070 - Danilo Silva: Geoarbitrage, Lifestyle Planning & Flag Theory
Settee, Geoarbitrage, Flag Theory, Brazil, Digital Nomadism, Portugal, Golden Visas, Georgia, Argentina, Lifestyle Planning
Timothy Allen talks with Danilo Silva.
Todays guest is the digital nomad and perpetual traveller, Danilo Silva.
Danilo is the C.O.O. of Settee, a Brazilian company that, in there own words “Helps Free People Become Citizens of the World”, advising on relocation, geoarbitrage and flag theory in general.
As you would imagine our conversation primarily revolves around these topics... Where are the hot countries to relocate to? Short & long term strategies, golden visas, tax havens or just havens of freedom. Listen on for more of the same.
Just one caveat before we proceed..,. we recorded this interview just before Javier Milei won the presidency in Argentina. So, when we’re discussing Argentina, it's the pre-Milei version.
Enjoy the conversation
TIMESTAMPS:
[00:30] Introduction.
[02:36] How long have you been a digital nomad?
[05:40] What do you do at Settee?
[10:24] Dealing with hyperinflation.
[18:37] Is Digital nomadism a sustainable lifestyle?
[21:04] Benefits of settling down for longer periods.
[27:10] Georgia as a digital nomad destination.
[30:32] Finding rental properties as a nomad.
[35:17] Three real life case studies from your work at Settee.
[41:09] Advising the host on his best strategy.
[47:10] Which are the best places to relocate to in Europe and North America.
[50:50] Living in Argentina, including cost of living and dating as a nomad.
[57:26] Inflation and economic survival in Argentina.
[1:02:53] Predictions for the future best places to relocate to.
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
LIBERTY IN OUR LIFETIME CONFERENCE: https://libertyinourlifetime.org/
Special Economic Zones Film:
gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/zones-of-progress-film-about-the-future-of-cities
Bitcoin: https://free-cities.org/donate/
TWITTER:
Settee: https://twitter.com/setteeio
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
WEBSITES:
Danilo Silva: https://linktr.ee/danilo.settee
Settee: https://www.settee.io/
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/

Mar 15, 2024 • 1h 54min
069 - Nicole Reese & Oscar Correa: Regenerative Neighbourhoods, Holacracy & Pioneer Communities
Regen Tribe, Regenerative Movement, Futurism, Mexico, Self-Sufficiency, Self-Sovereignty, Pioneer Communities, Eco Villages, Holacracy, Regenerative Neighbourhoods, Kuyabeh, Tulum
Timothy Allen talks with Nicole Reese & Oscar Correa.
On today’s show we’re delving into one of my least visited sections of the Free Cities Spectrum. I’m talking with two members of Regen Tribe, a startup involved in the ‘Regenerative Neighbourhood' ecosystem.
Oscar Correa is the founder and CEO of Regen Tribe and Nicole Reese, the Director of Operations.
Our conversation takes us on a journey through eco village design to futurism and pioneer communities as well as self-sovereignty, self-sufficiency and, of course the wider topic of the regenerative movement in general.
Enjoy the conversation.
TIMESTAMPS
(0:30) Introduction.
(3:15) Guest introduction: Nicole.
(6:45) Guest introduction: Oscar.
(10:55) Examples of regenerative neighborhoods.
(15:23) How do you entice people to stay at these communities?
(18:18) Retaining digital nomads in planned communities.
(20:43) Creating networks of regenerative communities.
(24:29) Living in a community during lockdowns.
(27:00) Does the idea of inclusivity ever really manifest in reality?
(31:10) How do you stop pricing out locals?
(35:58) Do ideological communities work in reality?
(41:35) Is legal autonomy important?
(46:28) Views on 'Capitalism'.
(53:46) Is environmentalism a 'luxury belief'?
(57:32) How will you enforce governance models?
(59:13) Will you create resident contracts?
(1:06:15) Preferred method of Governance.
(1:09:00) Land tokenization.
(1:17:21) Importance of decentralization.
(1:23:59) The Tribes platform.
(1:25:51) What kind of people are buying plots of land in Kuyabeh?
(1:31:56) How do successful societies evolve?
(1:35:01) The trend to reimagine society is growing.
(1:41:17) Designing systems vs natural systems.
(1:48:02) Different types of people who are investing in Kuyabeh, Mexico.
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
LIBERTY IN OUR LIFETIME CONFERENCE: https://libertyinourlifetime.org/
Special Economic Zones Film:
gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/zones-of-progress-film-about-the-future-of-cities
Bitcoin: https://free-cities.org/donate/
TWITTER:
Oscar Correa: https://twitter.com/oscarRegen
Regen Tribe: https://twitter.com/RegenTribe
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
WEBSITES:
Regen Tribe: https://regentribe.org/
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/

Mar 8, 2024 • 1h 8min
068 - Tomer Kantor: El Salvador, Bitcoin & The IMF
Bitcoin, El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, Education, Dollarization, China, Singapore, IMF, Hope, Bond to Unbind.
Timothy Allen talks with Tomer Kantor.
I’ve got my final Bitcoin film festival despatch for you today. I’m talking with the director of the film “Bond to Unbind. Bitcoin & El Salvador".
Tomer’s film is a deep dive into the fascinating story of contemporary El Salvador. Spearheaded by its phenomenally popular president Nayib Bukele, El Salvador took the bold approach of not only passing the world’s first ever Bitcoin legal tender bill in 2021, but also of actively rallying against El Salvador's traditional relationship with the IMF, including ignoring their pleas to rescind the Bitcoin law.
In the words of Fortune magazine:
“The International Monetary Fund’s board urged El Salvador to strip Bitcoin of its status as legal currency due to its large risks, highlighting a major obstacle for the nation’s efforts to get a loan from the institution.”
Seemingly unperturbed by the IMF's passive aggressive threats, El Salvador’s so-called Volcano bonds, which are the governments Bitcoin-backed bonds also got regulatory approval at the end of 2023.
We discuss all this and more in the pod as well as a talking about both of our personal experiences visiting the country since the law was passed.
Enjoy the conversation.
TIMESTAMPS
(0:30) Introduction.
(4:16) What were your preconceptions of El Salvador?
(11:26) Dollarization in El Salvador.
(15:55) Bottom up adoption of Bitcoin
(22:51) What drives bitcoin adoption?
(28:00) Nayib Bukele's back story.
(35:01) El Salvador wants to be the new Singapore.
(41:04) What do Salvadorians think of Bukele?
(47:35) Is Bukele trust worthy?
(52:26) Bitcoin & remittences.
(57:29) The reality of Bitcoin adoption in El Salvador.
(59:51) Is there a connection between El Salvador & the Free Cities movement?
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
LIBERTY IN OUR LIFETIME CONFERENCE: https://libertyinourlifetime.org/
Special Economic Zones Film:
gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/zones-of-progress-film-about-the-future-of-cities
Bitcoin: https://free-cities.org/donate/
TWITTER:
Tomer Kantor: https://twitter.com/TomerKantor
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
WEBSITES:
Bond To Unbind (Full Documentary): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx-QWOHuug0
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/

Mar 1, 2024 • 1h 39min
067 - Sondre Bjellås: Liberstad. The Norweigan Free City
Liberstad, Intentional Community, Norway, Non-Aggression, Voluntarism, Technology, Digital Identities, Bitcoin, Freedom, Opting out.
Timothy Allen talks with Sondre Bjellås.
Sondre is a developer/programmer who is also the co-creator of Liberstad, an innovative Norwegian community founded on the principals of non-agression and voluntarism.
In this episode you can expect an overview of the project along with plenty of updates on how things are progressing, as well as some of Sondre’s unique perspectives on life and technology.
I always think of Liberstad as one of the lessen known projects in the Free Cities ecosystem, nevertheless it is most definitely one to watch in my opinion.
Enjoy the conversation.
TIMESTAMPS
(0:30) Introduction to episode.
(4:06) Why have you not publicised Liberstad too much?
(7:02) Building a community without permission.
(11:19) How big is Liberstad?
(14:47) Who is buying plots of land in Liberstad?
(17:43) How did you go about initially buying the whole site?
(20:03) What do you use as money in Liberstad?
(32:32) D.I.D.s: Decentralized identities.
(39:40) COVID-19 passes and verifiable identities.
(43:50) Do most people crave individual freedom?
(47:39) The nature of freedom and human psychology.
(53:25) Individualism, collectivism, and childhood experiences.
(59:18) Public perception of Libersatd in Norway.
(1:04:19) Christiana and freedom.
(1:09:00) How many plots have you sold?
(1:13:35) What kind of bureaucratic problems might builders face?
(1:18:11) Police presence in Norway.
(1:22:12) What do you expect to evolve over the next 15 years?
(1:27:08) Free City networks.
(1:36:40) Coming to Liberstad.
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
LIBERTY IN OUR LIFETIME CONFERENCE: https://libertyinourlifetime.org/
Special Economic Zones Film:
gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/zones-of-progress-film-about-the-future-of-cities
Bitcoin: https://free-cities.org/donate/
TWITTER:
Sondre Bjellås: https://twitter.com/SondreB
Liberstad: https://twitter.com/liberstad
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
WEBSITES:
Sondre Bjellås: https://sondreb.com/
Liberstad: https://www.liberstad.com/
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
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