

Free Cities Podcast
Timothy Allen
The official podcast of the Free Cities Foundation hosted by Timothy Allen.
Timothy conducts in-person, long-form discussions with the preeminent thought leaders in the Free Cities ecosystem, including builders, investors, residents, entrepreneurs & people who value liberty & prosperity for all. Everyone is welcome, especially skeptics.
Topics: Private Cities, Pioneer Communities, Charter Cities, Seasteading, Homesteading, Libertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Bitcoin, Economics, Geopolitics, Flag Theory, , Network States, Homeschooling, Technology, Free Markets & Digital Nomadism.
VIDEO VERSIONS of the show can be found here: https://linktr.ee/freeCitiesPodcast - New episodes every Friday.
Timothy conducts in-person, long-form discussions with the preeminent thought leaders in the Free Cities ecosystem, including builders, investors, residents, entrepreneurs & people who value liberty & prosperity for all. Everyone is welcome, especially skeptics.
Topics: Private Cities, Pioneer Communities, Charter Cities, Seasteading, Homesteading, Libertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Bitcoin, Economics, Geopolitics, Flag Theory, , Network States, Homeschooling, Technology, Free Markets & Digital Nomadism.
VIDEO VERSIONS of the show can be found here: https://linktr.ee/freeCitiesPodcast - New episodes every Friday.
Episodes
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Oct 3, 2025 • 1h 52min
150 - Knut Svanholm: Democracy Leads to Totalitarianism
Bitcoin, Culture, Property Rights, Natural Law, Liberty, Democracy, Security, AI, Economics, Personal Responsibility, Geopolitics, Bitcoin Education.
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Timothy Allen speaks with Knut Svanholm.
In this conversation we discuss the evolution of Bitcoin culture, security, and the balance between fear-based narratives and empowerment through self-sovereignty.
Knut highlights natural law, property rights, and the non-aggression principle, connecting these ideas to Bitcoin’s role as a tool for peaceful trade and communication.
The conversation also touches on AI’s limitations, personal responsibility within the Bitcoin community, and critiques of democracy versus trade-driven societies.
We also explore geopolitics, the erosion of freedom, and how Bitcoin offers hope, resilience, and emancipation for the individual.
Enjoy the conversation.
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
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Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
All the podcast links: https://linktr.ee/FreeCitiesPodcast
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
Free Cities Conference: https://freecitiesconference.com/
Free Cities Foundation Newsletter: https://free-cities.org/subscribe
Conference Guide to Prague: https://tinyurl.com/FreeCitiesPragueGuide
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00:30 – Introduction To Episode
0:07:26 – Start of conversation
0:10:00 – What happened to Andreas Antonopoulos?
0:17:31 – Bitcoin Security and kidnapping
0:18:53 – Everyone’s Trying to Sell You FUD
0:21:34 – Humans, Conflict, and Communication
0:29:15 – Is Property Derived from Work?
0:32:50 – Why Aren’t All Prices Dropping Forever?
0:43:20 – The Austrian Model for Thinking
0:51:04 – Crypto & Ethics
1:02:33 – Democracy Doesn't Work: The Hardest Pill to Swallow
1:17:42 - Vote With Your Feet
1:29:31 – Bitcoin Infinity Academy
1:35:50 – Impressions of El Salvador
1:42:50 – The Future: AI, Geopolitics, and Freedom
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LEGACY SOCIAL MEDIA:
Knut Svanholm: https://x.com/knutsvanholm
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
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OTHER LINKS:
Knut's website: https://bitcoininfinitystore.com/
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities

Oct 1, 2025 • 7min
BONUS 003 - Jake Hamilton: Mind, Machines and Meaning
Welcome to this bonus episode of the Free Cities Podcast. These episodes are exclusively available to our subscribers on Fountain.fm, and I will be releasing them periodically throughout the year, especially during weeks when our regular episodes are ones subscribers have already had early access to.
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If you're not on Fountain, you can access the episode here: https://fountain.fm/episode/727p2ykSx85aTmeNbC8N
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Where should I begin with this one? It is a very long episode—over three and a half hours in total—but as always, there is a reason for that.
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A bit of background: in November 2022, I was in San Salvador speaking at Adopting BTC, a Bitcoin conference in El Salvador. At the opening party, I met a gentleman by the name of Jake Hamilton and we had a very interesting late conversation over dinner that struck a chord within me.
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Later during the trip, I had a day off and reached out to him to ask if he would sit down and and have a conversation with me. Nothing was off the table; the plan was simply to start talking and see where it went. That is exactly what we did.
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We began by discussing Urbit, a decentralized operating system that Jake is a developer for. That was my original reason for wanting to speak with him. However, the conversation quickly branched off into a huge range of topics.
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When I edit these podcasts, I usually keep a running list of subjects we cover. By the end, it helps me get a clear picture of what we talked about and makes writing an episode description much easier. For this conversation, that list grew to more than sixty topics. To give you a sense of what you’re in for, we started with Urbit and moved on to digital nomadism, ethics, complex systems, artificial intelligence, the Akashic records, Bitcoin and time, Planck seconds, non-computational quantum physics, metaphysics, the origins of humans, the digital realm, religion, Christianity, simulation theory, the end of humanity, DMT, psychedelics and near-death experiences, fasting, spirituality, ketamine, spirit animals, sugar, proof of work, existential traps, narcissism, StarkNet, the Bitcoin circular economy, Bitcoin maximalism, the philosophy of Bitcoin, Bitcoin as monetary critique, digital aliens, the mystery of Satoshi Nakamoto, Neuralink, conflict, and cultural patrimony. And that is only part of the list.
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I even asked an AI to summarize it, and it came back with: “Urbit, Bitcoin, digital nomadism, effective altruism, and various aspects of technology, consciousness, and the future of humanity.” I prefer my own list.
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This is exactly the kind of podcast I love to make, and I am very grateful to Jake for agreeing to do it. After all, he was just someone I met at a party. We had never met before, and I have not met him since. Yet he was incredibly generous with his time, sitting down with me for three and a half hours at their Urbit developer house in San Salvador.
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I think this episode is a perfect bonus because it is quite technical and especially relevant to the Nostr community, the value-for-value community, and of course, Bitcoiners. It has essentially never been heard. I originally recorded it for a podcast I had just started at the time, but that project went nowhere because I launched this show a few weeks later. So this recording has been sitting untouched for a couple of years, just like the other episodes I will be releasing here.
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If you want to follow Jake and hear more of his unique perspectives, you can find him on Twitter at his intriguing handle 36_72541890. He once explained the meaning of that number to me, but I have completely forgotten it, and even ChatGPT cannot figure it out.
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Settle in for this one. You may really want to sit back and relax. I hope you enjoy it. I certainly did, and conversations like this are one of the reasons I get up in the morning.
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Enjoy.

Sep 26, 2025 • 1h 25min
149 - Vít Jedlička: Liberland’s Path to Prosperity
Liberland, Micronation, Liberty Island, Voluntary Taxation, Croatia Dispute, Smart Contract Constitution, Justin Sun, International Recognition, Free Republic
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Timothy Allen speaks with Vít Jedlička.
Vít is the founder and president of the micronation Liberland.
This discussion spans the current development on Liberland, including building houses, pontoon structures, and tourist infrastructure on Liberty Island, as well as the ongoing territorial disputes with Croatia. Key themes include attempts at international recognition, the role of blockchain-based governance, the Liberland dollar, and the country’s constitution as a smart contract. Other topics explored are voluntary taxation, private property rights, flood-resistant construction, and the integration of e-residency and global financial systems.
The conversation highlights the broader struggle to create an alternative model of governance and economic freedom, balancing individual liberty and innovative legal frameworks in the face of external pressures and challenges.
Enjoy the conversation.
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
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Veritas Villages are building off-grid, energy self-sufficient communities for freedom lovers in Latin America. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
All the podcast links: https://linktr.ee/FreeCitiesPodcast
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
Free Cities Conference: https://freecitiesconference.com/
Free Cities Foundation Newsletter: https://free-cities.org/subscribe
Conference Guide to Prague: https://tinyurl.com/FreeCitiesPragueGuide
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00:30 – Introduction To Episode
0:05:24 – Start of conversation
0:09:06 – Building on Liberty Island
0:11:07 – Croatian Constitution and Liberland's Jurisdiction
0:21:05 – Liberland Diplomacy in El Salvador & Justin Sun
0:26:30 – Safety & Relationships with the Local Police
0:30:32 - Floating Homes & Pontoon Houses
0:36:05 – Why Should People Take You Seriously?
0:42:18 – Developing the Liberland Constitution
0:52:51 – Finding Free Places in the World - Paraguay Residency Program for Citizens
0:59:14 – Longevity and Spa Project in Serbia
1:01:17 – Sovereign Guarantees for Investments in Liberland
1:03:54 – The Liberland Dollar Ecosystem
1:08:52 – Building a Sovereign System Independent of Bitcoin
1:17:26 – Liberland Is Outgrowing Croatia
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LEGACY SOCIAL MEDIA:
Vít Jedlička: https://x.com/JedlickaVit
Liberland: https://x.com/Liberland_org
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
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OTHER LINKS:
Liberland: https://linktr.ee/llblockchain
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.veritasvillages.com/freecities
Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities

Sep 19, 2025 • 2h 11min
148 - Patrick Henningsen: The Grand Conspiracy
Alternative Media, Propaganda, Geopolitics, Ukraine Conflict, NATO, Russia, Anglo-American Empire, Petrodollar, Israel, Middle East, Conspiracy, Migration, Transnational Corporations, Technological Authoritarianism
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Timothy Allen speaks with Patrick Henningsen.
Patrick is a writer, filmmaker, and global affairs analyst best known as the founder of the alternative media site 21st Century Wire and host of Sunday Wire and The Patrick Henningsen Show.
The discussion spans the Ukraine conflict, Western narratives, and geopolitical struggles between the Anglo-American empire and rising Eurasia, with emphasis on U.S. dominance, the role of Israel, and strategies of global control. Other key themes include migration as both a byproduct of wars and a tool of destabilization, the erosion of democracy and freedoms, and the risks of technology amplifying authoritarian power. The conversation underscores a broader struggle between centralized power and the pursuit of individual and collective autonomy in an increasingly controlled digital age.
Enjoy the conversation.
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.ecovillages.life/freecities
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Veritas Village Coronado is a phenomenal project in Panama, building off-grid, energy self-sufficient luxury homes for freedom lovers. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
All the podcast links: https://linktr.ee/freeCitiesPodcast
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
Free Cities Conference: https://freecitiesconference.com/
Free Cities Foundation Newsletter: https://free-cities.org/subscribe
Conference Guide to Prague: https://tinyurl.com/FreeCitiesPragueGuide
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00:30 – Introduction To Episode
0:10:30 – Start of conversation
0:14:54 – The UK Column, COVID-19 & Consensus Reality
0:31:20 – The Saga of Macron’s Wife
0:36:00 – Alex Jones & The Political Power of Podcasters
0:42:58 – Discussion on the Ukraine Situation
0:55:46 – Candace Owens, Macron, and Donald Trump
1:01:39 – The Anglo-American Empire
1:03:10 – The 300-Year Great Game Playbook
1:15:05 – The Migration Conspiracy
1:18:40 – The Importance of Israel
1:24:40 – Pro-Israel and the State of America
1:34:30 – Old Order vs New Reality
1:47:00 – Failing Democracy & The Collectivist Plan
1:58:50 – Free Market, Interventionism & Political Risk
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Free Cities Foundation: npub1lsj8pmgedqqamt89c27tzjjnlf0wn7q7udjm7j2cl9xxz97eacns2mwpee
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LEGACY SOCIAL MEDIA:
Patrick Henningsen: https://x.com/21WIRE
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
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OTHER LINKS:
UK Column: https://www.ukcolumn.org/
21st Centure Wire: https://21stcenturywire.com/
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.ecovillages.life/freecities
Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities

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Sep 12, 2025 • 1h 52min
147 - Jeff G: Privacy and the Architecture of Freedom
In this insightful discussion, Jeff G, a Nostr developer specializing in privacy tech, shares his expertise on secure communication through White Noise. He delves into the limitations of popular messaging platforms and the importance of metadata privacy. The conversation touches on the relevance of Bitcoin and eCash in enhancing personal security along with the potential of mesh networks. They also explore the balance between innovation in AI and the need for stringent privacy measures, painting a picture of a decentralized, freer internet.

Sep 5, 2025 • 1h 34min
146 - Efrat Fenigson: Stop Bitching, Start Solving
Censorship, Community, Psilocybin Microdosing, Spirituality, Israel, Propaganda , Bitcoin, Privacy, Encryption, CBDCs, Shadow banning, Parallel Systems.
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Timothy Allen speaks with Efrat Fenigson.
Efrat is an independent journalist, marketing expect and host of her own hugely successful podcast, ‘You’re the voice’. This is a wide-ranging conversation about navigating an increasingly chaotic world.
We explore censorship, shadow banning, and freedom online, and how community and personal branding can help push back. Efrat highlights Bitcoin and privacy as essential tools for reclaiming sovereignty in the digital age.
The discussion also dives into personal growth and resilience, touching on microdosing, psychedelics, spirituality, and life as a digital nomad. Efrat speaks candidly about Israel, reflecting on propaganda, resistance, and her own choice to leave the country and embrace a new way of living. She stresses the need for hope, creativity, and building parallel systems that allow individuals and communities to thrive beyond centralized control — blending the personal with the political, the digital with the spiritual, and offering a vision of freer futures.
Enjoy the conversation.
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.ecovillages.life/freecities
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Veritas Village Coronado is a phenomenal project in Panama, building off-grid, energy self-sufficient luxury homes for freedom lovers. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
All the podcast links: https://linktr.ee/freeCitiesPodcast
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
Free Cities Conference: https://freecitiesconference.com/
Free Cities Foundation Newsletter: https://free-cities.org/subscribe
Conference Guide to Prague: https://tinyurl.com/FreeCitiesPragueGuide
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00:30 – Introduction To Episode
0:05:45 - Start of conversation
0:07:25 – Efrat's Decentralized Strategy against censorship
0:08:06 – Community and Personal Branding
0:13:46 – Bitcoin's Impact on Efrat's Focus
0:20:09 – Spiritual Awakening and Intellectual Ability
0:23:16 – Microdosing: Process and Effects
0:42:07 – Privacy as a Forbidden Concept
0:46:40 – The Ability to Spend Money
0:50:58 – Digital Encryption
1:06:20 – Stop Bitching About Everything
1:09:38 – Israelis’ Lack of Perspective
1:13:35 – Israelis Resisting War
1:16:17 – Exploring Nomading and Its Impact
1:29:10 – Hope for a Glorious Future
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Free Cities Foundation: npub1lsj8pmgedqqamt89c27tzjjnlf0wn7q7udjm7j2cl9xxz97eacns2mwpee
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LEGACY SOCIAL MEDIA:
Efrat Fenigson: https://x.com/efenigson
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
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OTHER LINKS:
Efrat's Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/efenigson
Episode 105 - Efrat Fenigson: Unmasking Agenda 2030: https://fountain.fm/episode/Rf9Pr4vmvXvJarTPchzT
Episode 086 - Efrat Fenigson: Preparing for Central Bank Digital Currencies: https://fountain.fm/episode/NwTIf1N3MTD9fBleNogR
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.ecovillages.life/freecities
Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities

Aug 29, 2025 • 1h 42min
145 - Freddie New: The State is Failing
Personal Sovereignty, Surveillance, Bitcoin, Financial Freedom, Economic Collapse, UK Politics, Freedom Tech, Social Credit Scores, Deep State, Online Safety Bill, Data Privacy.
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Timothy Allen speaks with Freddie New.
Freddie, is a lawyer and Head of Policy at Bitcoin Policy UK. In this conversation we explore the battle for individual freedom in an age of surveillance, financial instability, and growing state power. We discuss the tools and principles that can safeguard personal sovereignty, from Bitcoin and privacy tech to the responsibility each of us carries in resisting economic debasement and government overreach.
Enjoy the conversation.
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.ecovillages.life/freecities
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Veritas Village Coronado is a phenomenal project in Panama, building off-grid, energy self-sufficient luxury homes for freedom lovers. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
All the podcast links: https://linktr.ee/freeCitiesPodcast
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
Free Cities Conference: https://freecitiesconference.com/
Free Cities Foundation Newsletter: https://free-cities.org/subscribe
Conference Guide to Prague: https://tinyurl.com/FreeCitiesPragueGuide
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00:30 – Introduction To Episode
0:06:47 - Start of conversation
0:09:43 - The UK as an Example of Bad Governance
0:12:50 - Politicians' Incentive to Create More Laws
0:15:09 - Banning VPNs and Human Rights
0:15:41 - The Online Safety Bill: Porn, Kids, and Data Collection
0:18:17 - ID to Surf the Internet: A Looming Threat
0:21:37 - Compliance and the Enforceability of Ridiculous Rules
0:23:15 - The Growing Bureaucracy and the Rehash of Everything
0:28:37 - Algorithmic Enforcement and the Good Citizen Score
0:39:11 - Taxing Wealthy People and Ending Up with Less Revenue
0:47:54 - Microsoft and the Life Cycle of Organizations
0:49:53 - Independence on an Individual Basis
0:57:50 - Personal Freedom and the Social Credit Score
1:02:21 - Government's Monopoly of Money
1:19:21 - Government Regulation and Global Power
1:36:33 - Some Solutions and First Steps Toward Freedom Tech
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Freddie New: npub1wl39ydk5rpecvtrzhq67afl9ykn2ty2xdxdkfmyan0rss3f3ma5sndznlx
Timothy Allen: Search 'timothy@nostr.com' on your Nostr app
Free Cities Foundation: npub1lsj8pmgedqqamt89c27tzjjnlf0wn7q7udjm7j2cl9xxz97eacns2mwpee
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LEGACY SOCIAL MEDIA:
Freddie New: https://x.com/freddienew
Timothy Allen: https://twitter.com/MrTimothyAllen
Free Cities Foundation: https://twitter.com/freecitiesfound
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OTHER LINKS:
Bitcoin Policy UK: https://bitcoinpolicy.uk/
Free Cities Foundation: https://free-cities.org/
SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.ecovillages.life/freecities
Become a resident or business owner in Próspera: https://prospera.co/r/freecities

Aug 28, 2025 • 1min
BONUS 002 - Gigi: Proof of Work - Part 2
Welcome to this bonus episode of the Free Cities podcast. These episodes are only available to our subscribers on Fountain.fm or other value-for-value platforms. I’ll be dropping them in the weeks when the regular release episodes are ones you’ve already had early access to, or, like this week, simply because I wanted to share a bonus episode.
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If you're not on Fountain, you can access the episode here:
https://fountain.fm/episode/s9WEvF6f5fWx8LTONl4f
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A little background on this one: it’s part two of two separate conversations I had with the Bitcoin OG Gigi, which, unbelievably, had never been released until now. Back in the summer of 2021, I was working on a personal film project with Australian filmmaker Richard James, who was also on this call with us and appears briefly a couple of times.
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My part in the project involved conducting a series of interviews with prominent Bitcoiners, focusing on the subject of proof of work. Then, as now, I believed that understanding proof of work was the key to greater mainstream acceptance of Bitcoin, particularly around issues like energy consumption. Proof of work is one of the hardest aspects of Bitcoin to fully grasp, and since I consider Gigi one of the key voices on this subject, I was grateful to record more than four hours of conversation with him.
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This part of the conversation begins with us discussing what was, at the time, the hot topic of the week among Bitcoiners: Robert Breedlove’s very out-of-character endorsement of BitClout, a controversial blockchain-based social network. That incident raised important questions of trust and truth in the Bitcoin space, and Gigi was very publicly involved in the debate. Listening back now offers fascinating insight into what makes Bitcoiners tick.
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This is actually the first time I’ve revisited the recording since it was made, and I found it absolutely captivating. Later in the discussion, we venture deep into the Bitcoin rabbit hole, including some riveting exploration of the spiritual aspects of Bitcoin’s emergence, something Gigi speaks about with remarkable clarity. He also shares his powerful personal story of discovering Bitcoin and the transformation it sparked in his life.
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Bear in mind that the conversation occasionally slips into a question-and-answer format, which isn’t my preferred style, and recording online brought its own challenges. You’ll notice Gigi’s connection drops out briefly, though I’ve edited it together as seamlessly as possible.
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Long story short, this whole project ultimately fell victim to the pandemic, which was still raging in the background as we recorded. You’ll hear us reference it at the start. Around that time, I closed my office and went abroad with my family to escape the draconian measures in the UK. As a result, this interview, along with many others I recorded with other prominent Bitcoiners at the time, has sat idle on a hard drive for the past four years.
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I hate seeing work go to waste, so I decided this podcast would be the perfect place to finally share it. There’s a lot of signal here, and I was struck by how much has changed since these conversations in 2021—not only my own understanding of the subjects we discussed, but also the dramatic shifts in Bitcoin’s adoption and public image.
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I think you’re going to enjoy this one. I certainly did. Here’s the conversation. Many thanks to Gigi and Richard for giving me permission to release it in full.
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Enjoy, and I’ll see you on the next bonus episode.

Aug 22, 2025 • 1h 57min
144 - Leon Wankum: The Real Estate Reckoning
Real Estate Investing, Bitcoin Standard, Austrian Economics, Property Market Crash, Monetary Expansion, Digital Economy, Inflation Hedge Myth, Free Cities, Proof-Of-Work, Architecture, Japan.
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Timothy Allen speaks with Leon Wankum.
Leon, a veteran real estate developer speaks about his journey from property and construction into Austrian economics and Bitcoin. Leon challenges the idea that real estate is a safe store of value, arguing that its monetary premium is misplaced in a digital economy. He contrasts the fragility of leveraged property markets with Bitcoin’s fixed supply, warning that utility-based pricing could upend the global financial system. From the demonetization of real estate to the rise of service-oriented housing and Bitcoin-based innovation, Leon envisions a future where property is valued for use, not speculation — and where Bitcoin strengthens resilience, reshapes development, and supports the growth of free cities.
Enjoy the conversation.
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SHOW SPONSOR: Veritas Villages: https://www.ecovillages.life/freecities
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Veritas Village Coronado is a phenomenal project in Panama, building off-grid, energy self-sufficient luxury homes for freedom lovers. Bitcoin is accepted at all villages, including for the purchase of property.
All the podcast links: https://linktr.ee/freeCitiesPodcast
Free Cities Telegram Community: https://t.me/+im6c6r4jQkUzMjU0
Free Cities Conference: https://freecitiesconference.com/
Free Cities Foundation Newsletter: https://free-cities.org/subscribe
Conference Guide to Prague: https://tinyurl.com/FreeCitiesPragueGuide
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00:30 – Introduction To Episode
0:07:27 - Start of conversation
0:07:48 – Discovering Austrian Economics
0:11:38 – Challenging the Idea of Property as a Safe Investment
0:16:00 – Managing Change: Real Estate on a Bitcoin Standard
0:19:35 – Real Estate's Role in the Global Financial System
0:20:35 – Saving in Bitcoin Instead of Housing
0:27:57 – Interest Rates and the Real Estate Business Model
0:32:33 – Demonetization of Real Estate and Land
0:41:54 – Integrating Bitcoin into Real Estate
0:42:27 – Architecture and the Future Quality of Houses
0:48:00 – The Problem with the Fiat Monetary System
0:52:34 – Beauty and the Fiat System
0:56:30 – Proof of Work and Architecture
1:16:17 – Understanding the 18-Year Property Cycle
1:23:45 – Using Bitcoin as Digital Real Estate Collateral
1:40:18 – The Secrets of the Wealthy are Now Free
1:46:46 – Competitive Governance and Free Cities
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Aug 15, 2025 • 2h 24min
143 - Max Hillebrand: The Praxeology of Privacy
Freedom, John Locke, Privacy, Property, Cypherpunk, Bitcoin, Praxeology, Parallel Economies, Nomadism, Intervention, Sovereignty, Scarcity.
Timothy Allen speaks with Max Hillebrand.
Max joins me to explore freedom, privacy, and property rights in the free market of ideas. We discuss Cypherpunk strategies, the appeal of Bitcoin, Free Cities, and digital nomadism as ways to resist creeping socialism and surveillance. Drawing on Lockean ownership theory, Austrian economics, and praxeology, Max makes the case for combining decentralization, community, and technology to defend liberty in both physical and digital realms.
Enjoy the conversation.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00:30 – Introduction To Episode
0:08:39 - Start of conversation
0:17:14 — Triangular Interventions of the State
0:18:38 — The banning of VPNs
0:23:39 — Mean Time To Harassment
0:31:55 — The Cypherpunk Ideal: Increasing the Cost of Attack
0:37:50 — Dragnet Surveillance & Privacy
0:44:00 — Free Cities and The Importance of Freedom in Meatspace
0:51:16 — There are No Frontiers Left
1:00:20 — Conscription is Coming Back
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:08:09 — There are Many More Good People Than Bad
1:14:05 — AI and Robots of Convenience in the Dystopian Future
1:25:37 — Bitcoin Proves John Locke's Theory of Property Rights
1:32:41 — Proving Economic Reasons
1:38:52 — The Cypherpunks Don't Know How Fundamentally Correct They Are
1:43:59 — Freedom is Correct. The State is Evil
1:56:34 — AI Will Remove Scarcity from the World
2:01:02 - Keynsian Bullshit
2:05:20 - Tik Tok Will Eventually Generate 100% AI Content
2:17:47 - Rally Cry for Freedom Lovers
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