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In this episode, Kevin and Jack talk about creepy, crawly, disgusting bugs!Share your answers to the discussion questions in our WhatsApp group chat! https://forms.gle/zKCS8y1t9jwv2KTn7Website: https://atozenglishpodcast.com/?p=1810If you could take a minute and complete a short survey about the podcast, we would be very appreciative. You can find the survey here: https://forms.gle/HHNnnqU6U8W3DodK8We would love to hear your feedback and suggestions for future episodes.Intro/Outro Music by Eaters: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/eaters/the-astronomers-office/agents-in-coffee-shops/ Directions: Answer the discussion questions in the Whatsapp group chat.  1.    Are there a lot of bugs where you live?2.    What annoys you the most about insects?3.    What do you do to get rid of insects in your house? Full Transcript:  Jack You are listening to the A-Z English podcast. Kevin Welcome to an A-Z English quick chat where today we're going to surprise each other with a topic and see where the conversation goes. Kevin Remember, you can check our website for study guides with vocabulary, notes, discussion, questions and more, as well as links to our WhatsApp, Facebook and other social media so you can join in our conversation with us. Kevin And Jack, it's getting towards the end of summer here, but even though it's the end of summer, there's still a lot of bugs out and. Kevin I've got 2. Kevin Or three new mosquito bites. Kevin Odd me right now. Kevin Mosquitoes, actually. Kevin I mean, I think bugs in Korea, bugs in every country are very different because I'm from Arizona and Arizona is dry. Kevin It's desert, right? Kevin There's no mosquitoes in in Arizona. Jack Yeah, but you have scorpions though. Kevin That's true. Kevin We we don't score PNG. Jack Those are scary, yeah. Kevin Although it depends on where Arizona. Kevin Is very big, but yeah, we. Kevin We do have some. Kevin Of those, but mosquitoes are something that I. Kevin I I hate. Kevin I mean, everyone hates mosquitoes. Kevin Everyone hates mosquitoes. Kevin It's it's one common, common thing I think all people on the planet can can agree. Kevin With and it took me a little while to get used to them here. Kevin I'm still not used to him, but it took me a while to get used to them. Kevin Here, let me let me tell you a story before I ask you about your bugs. Kevin When I first came to Korea, because Arizona doesn't have mosquitoes, I never thought about them. Kevin And so in the summer here, it's quite hot and in. Kevin Arizona in in Northern Arizona, it's quite hot as well, but not so bad and so we don't usually turn on the air conditioning in in the mountains. Kevin I just open up all the windows and just get a breeze coming through. Kevin So when I was when I was new to Korea, I had only been here, I don't know, less than a. Kevin And it was quite hot one night. Kevin And So what did I do? Kevin I just opened up. Kevin All the windows. Kevin Because of like, let's let's get some wind in here, let's cool down my house. Kevin So I opened up all the. Kevin Windows and just. Kevin And that night, I'll never forget this. Kevin Because that night, suddenly I heard that annoying, like, you know, noise in your ear. Jack And yeah. Kevin The terrible evil mosquito noise, and I heard it. Kevin In my ear. Kevin And I was like, oh, just go away. Kevin Just just bite me and go away. Kevin Let me sleep. Kevin I don't care, just just go away. Kevin And I heard it again and again. Kevin And again, and finally, well, OK, OK. Kevin I no, I have to kill you. Kevin So I stood up. Kevin I turned on the lights, and I then looked around my house and there was like 20 mosquitoes just covering the walls of of my apartment room. Kevin And it took me an hour and a half to just snack. Kevin Smack, smack and kill them all, yeah? Kevin And I learned very quickly now I never leave the windows open when I go in and out of my house in the summer, it's in not very fast, keep the door closed because. Kevin We want to keep those those damn mosquitoes away. Jack No, you just you opened the window and invited all the mosquitoes in your neighborhood to a blood party, basically. Kevin Yeah, come try some. Kevin Come try some American. Kevin Blood, it's really good. Jack Yeah, yeah, drink away. Jack So funny because I have the same story last night. Kevin Oh really? Jack Like last night a mosquito snuck into, you know, got into our house. Jack And I think listeners, probably those of you that live in like areas where where they have mosquitoes. Jack The the the land like on your ear and so you can hear the the kind of. 발표자 1 Ooh, yeah. Jack Sound in your ear and I don't know what it is. Jack It's the worst feeling, like I can't I? Kevin That's terrible.  Jack So what I always do is even if there's just one mosquito, I turned on the light. Jack I wake up, my wife wakes up. Jack She's like, what are you doing? Jack I'm like, I don't care. Jack I don't care how long it takes me. Jack I'm going to. Jack Hunt that mosquito down and I'm going to smash. 발표자 1 To kill it. Jack Did, and sometimes it takes me 5 minutes, sometimes it takes me 25 minutes, but I'm like a crazy person because it's just like it makes me like. Jack Insane to to you know when it happens and then when I kill it, it feels so good. Jack I just smash it so hard and just watch it splat all over the wall. Jack And I'm so happy, but the. Kevin I'm kind of the same way when I hear them at night. Kevin Now if because you seem to enjoy killing mosquitoes like we have one of those tennis racket type things, which those are great because yeah, you can watch it like just like fry. Jack Has electricity on it and you use tap it, yeah? Kevin The best, most satisfying way to kill a mosquito, though you know sometimes you can catch it in your hand, right? Kevin Like it's flying through and you just you'd grab it out of the air. Kevin But the worst is then you, like, squeeze your hand, you open it and. Kevin Then it flies. Kevin Away again, right. Jack Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. Kevin If you've had that happen, it's it's terrible. Kevin So the best thing to do. Kevin Well, I don't know what best. Kevin It's kind of evil, but but it feels good. Kevin If you catch a mosquito in your hand 'cause, you don't know if you actually crossed it. Kevin They're quite small, and maybe you did. Kevin Maybe you didn't so shake your hand a lot, right? Kevin Like just just like you've got, you know, you're you're shaking a some some juice or something. Kevin Just shake, shake, shake. Kevin Shake, shake, shake it in your hands because then it makes it basically makes the mosquito like super dizzy. Kevin And it's like, Oh my God. Kevin Then go up to one of the walls in your house and throw it at the wall. Kevin So I'm really close, because it doesn't. Kevin It it they're. Kevin Very light so they don't fly very far from vehicles. Kevin Just throw it at the wall. Kevin The mosquito will hit the wall. Kevin And then fall down to the. Kevin Round, but it's usually not quite dead. Kevin It usually just kind of twitches and it's like and then it dies. Kevin So you get to watch the little. Kevin Guy die and I know it's it's evil and I'm. Jack I thought you. Kevin Sorry for all the listeners out there. Jack Were going to pull its legs off 1 by 1 and just kind of pull up? Jack OK, you're not that. Jack You're not that sadistic, right? Kevin But hit, hit the wall with it and then it'll fall down and just. Jack You're not that. Kevin Like, uh and die.  Right. Jack So last night I couldn't find it. Jack I looked everywhere and I find it gave up. Kevin Oh, oh, sorry, I interrupted your story. Jack No, no, no. Jack But I have these big headphones that I listen to music with and I just put these big cans on my ears. Jack So it's and if you can't hear it, then I can just pretend that it's not there. Jack And so I fell asleep with my ear, my my headphones on, and I was able to fall asleep quite quickly without having killed a mosquito. Jack But yeah, it they really, really drives me crazy. Jack It drives me crazy. Kevin Honestly, I I. Kevin I even though a. Kevin Mosquito bite will last longer, you know, like I've got a couple of mosquito bites on me now, 'cause I. Kevin Was outside yesterday and. Kevin A mosquito bite will last two or three days before it goes away, and it's itchy for two or three days, but that itchy for two or three days for me is less annoying than that. Kevin The sound. Kevin When I'm sleeping. Jack Yeah, yeah. Kevin Like so for for me. Jack No side same, you know? Kevin Like, I understand. Kevin I would rather cover my ears. Kevin I'd rather it just come and bite. Kevin Me and go away. Kevin Like I don't care, I. Kevin Mean it's annoying, but bite me and go away. Kevin Don't wake me up. Kevin Don't come. Kevin Into my ear that is the worst the worst noise. Jack Now I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw this out to our listeners out there, because please share in the chat what your mosquito experiences are. Jack Because now they're, you know, obviously mosquitoes are not the only bugs that are, you know? Jack Have you had any experience like killing a cockroach or anything like that? Jack Because those really bother me a lot. Kevin I really hate cockroaches. Kevin Cockroaches and the other one here in Korea that really bothers me are the the really hairy centipedes that like, they look furry and they move really, really fast. Kevin You know, those are almost worse than cockroaches. Kevin For me. Kevin Those things are really fast. Kevin Cockroaches are terrible, of course, but in Korea, they're not so bad, because they're. Kevin Not so big. Jack Yeah, right. Jack Like they're only about like the. Kevin Biggest I've seen was like maybe if your small finger right, that's that's the biggest one that I've seen. Kevin My wife and I were traveling a few years ago and in we were staying in a small hotel, not even a hotel, more like a guest house type thing, kind of in the mountains. Kevin And there it was just. Kevin Yeah, lots of cockroaches outside. Kevin Inside the rooms were mostly clean, but outside in the forest it was just one cockroach central. Kevin And the worst there was, they were really big. Kevin Like, like really like your big finger and and a little bit more. Kevin And so we saw one that was quite big and it creeped in and then it started flying at us. Jack Oh yeah, I know those ones. Jack Yeah, they're it's called like a Palmetto bug or something. Jack They're maroon. Jack Kind of reddish. 발표자 1 It was a. Kevin Big flying cockroach. Jack The horrible, yeah. Kevin It was terrible. Kevin I I almost played baseball with it, with my sandal in the air. Kevin Yeah, those are are terrible. Kevin That's that's the way. Jack Yeah, we had a we had a cockroach problem in another apartment. And the problem with cockroaches is if you see one, that means there's like another 25 or 30 that you can't see. Kevin I don't know. Jack And so if I opened a drawer there, would I would see them kind of scurry away? Jack And if I if I? Jack Lifted up a desk or something, moved the desk, then they would run away. Kevin Oh no. Jack And so. Jack So we had to call the exterminator, and the exterminator came to kill the cockroaches, and the exterminator told us a really interesting story of how they kill the cockroaches. Jack So what they do is they poison the cockroaches, and so the cockroaches eat the poison. Jack And then they go back into their secret little house area where they all stay together and they die. Kevin OK. Jack Now, not all of them die, but if you know this about cockroaches, cockroaches will eat dead cockroaches. Jack So the ones that are still alive eat the dead ones that have poison in them, and then they die, and then whatever is leftover will eat those. Kevin The poison on him. Jack Dead ones. Jack And then they die. Jack And pretty soon all of the cockroaches are dead because of the first spray of poison. Jack And so if you thought cockroaches are cruel or whatever, they eat each other. Kevin Some good poisons. Jack They're cannibals. Jack They're disgusting. Jack They're horrible. Jack Pictures so don't ever feel sorry for a cockroach, OK? Jack Uh, yeah. Kevin I will not. Kevin Before we end with this 'cause, this is all I mean. Kevin Mosquitoes and cockroaches are our bugs. Kevin We generally don't like. Kevin What about some bugs that are OK? Kevin Are there any bugs that that are? Kevin OK, for. Jack So I like, I think you're going to say the same answer. Jack I'm probably going to steal your answer, but I have all. Jack I won't steal your answer. Jack I'll, I'll come up with a different one. Jack I saw yesterday. Kevin Well, go ahead, I've got a couple. Jack I saw a praying mantis, and it was huge. Kevin Oh, nice. Jack It was about the size of like a pencil. Jack Like, it was huge and I didn't want to kill it because they're so cool looking. Jack There's a very interesting bug. Kevin They are. Jack It's a mantis. Jack And in Korea they have. Jack We have quite a few of them and it was just sitting on the door. Jack It wasn't bothering anybody, it wasn't doing anything, so I didn't kill it. Jack And I just left it alone, and when I came back an hour later, it was gone so amantis I'll let them live because I. Kevin Right. Jack Don't know they just. Jack Look cool and I I don't have a problem. Jack With them so. Kevin And and they don't. Kevin Really bother people very much either. Jack With match it didn't fly at me. Jack It didn't do. Jack Anything was just hanging out. Kevin Right.  Kevin The other I I think what you were thinking is spiders, right? Jack Yes, yeah. Kevin That's, yeah, spiders. Kevin If I see a spider in my house, it depends on the spider that I see. Kevin Most of the time, I'll just let them live and just be like you. Kevin Go, go, spider friends. Kevin Go, go, go eat those evil mosquitoes and other. Kevin Bugs sometimes for a little bit bigger spiders. Kevin I don't want them in my house because they're kind of, they're kind of creepy. Kevin I still don't like. Kevin Them in my house, but I don't kill them, I just capture them and take them outside and let them guys. Jack Ah, OK, OK. Kevin I I I never kill spiders actually. Kevin So spiders are always friendly. Kevin Actually one time one of my friends. Kevin Thought I was crazy because I found a spider in in our houses back in, you know? Kevin City and I caught the spider to take it outside and then he took a picture of it first and went to the Internet to look it up and it was actually a very poisonous, like deadly deadly spider. 발표자 1 Oh no. Kevin And he's like. Kevin That kind of spiders. Kevin OK. Kevin To kill Kevin, I was like. Kevin No, it's still. Kevin A spider spiders are friendly, so spiders I don't kill. Kevin And another bug that I think. Kevin Everyone should respect our. Jack Yeah, very important. Yeah. Yes. Kevin These are great either. Kevin Very important. Kevin Wasps are evil. Kevin These are great. Kevin They make honey, they pollinate flowers and other plants, and we need bees on our planets to to have a a safe, healthy planet so bizzare cools. Jack Save the bees, save the spiders and save the mantis. Kevin Yep, I can agree to all of those. Jack We will keep it there. Jack Right. Kevin All right. Kevin So everyone else, tell us, what about bugs? Kevin What are your favorite bugs? Kevin What bugs do you hate? Kevin Do you have any good stories about you know dealing with with any bugs as well? Kevin Come to join our WhatsApp group or a Facebook group and tell us any of your bug stories, good or bad love. Kevin To hear them all, and if you've got time, go to our leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and a comment would be very helpful for other people to come and tell us some adazie bug stories so we'll see everybody next time have again. Jack Fun. 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In this episode, Kevin and Jack discuss three more idioms about money 💰to be in the black/be in the redto make ends meetto have a Midas touchWebsite: https://atozenglishpodcast.com/idioms-7/Share your answers to the discussion questions in our WhatsApp group chat! https://forms.gle/zKCS8y1t9jwv2KTn7If you could take a minute and complete a short survey about the podcast, we would be very appreciative. You can find the survey here: https://forms.gle/HHNnnqU6U8W3DodK8We would love to hear your feedback and suggestions for future episodes.Intro/Outro Music by Eaters: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/eaters/the-astronomers-office/agents-in-coffee-shops/Directions: Use each idiom in a sentence.1.2.3.Full Transcript:Jack You are listening to the A-Z English podcast. Kevin Welcome to an A-Z English idioms from A-Z or. Today we're going to talk about three different English idioms first, starting with a quick example. Kevin Then we'll explain them and try and define and tell you how you too can use these idioms in your conversations. Kevin Remember to check our website for study guides and more. Kevin We also have links to our WhatsApp, Facebook pages and all our other social media so you 2 can join the conversation. Jack So, Kev, how's business? Kevin Not so good, man. Kevin These days I'm always in the red. Kevin I can barely make ends meet. Jack Oh man, I'm sorry to hear that. Jack You know, mark, his coffee shop is doing really well. Jack That guys got the Midas touch. Kevin I wish I was so lucky. 발표자 1 Right. Kevin So we had three idioms in there, and if anyone was listening, can you hear what they are? Kevin I know they were. Kevin They come quick. Kevin First was to be in the red, or you can be in the black as well in. Kevin The black or. Kevin Red the next is to make ends meet and finally. Kevin To have a Midas touch. Kevin So let's talk about these color ones first. Kevin To be in the black or in the red. Kevin What do these mean? Jack Yeah, so these. Jack These come down to kind of the old style of accounting. Jack So when you we used to do accounting books, we would, if you were making a profit, you would use a black pen. Jack To write down the numbers of the money that you have made. Kevin So it's like money coming in, yeah. Jack Right, the money coming in or the elders? Kevin Yeah, I made 10 mixtures. Jack Or the money. Jack Leftover like the you know, after you pay all your expenses and everything, and then whatever is leftover, that's your profit. Jack But, and your profit is, it was written in black traditionally. Jack Now everything is done on computers, but back in the day you would put it, you'd write it in black. Jack And what about red? Jack If you wrote the number in red, what does that mean? Kevin Well, I mean, I think we can probably guess this one right. Kevin If you see a red light when you're driving, it means, you know, caution. Kevin Be careful, right? Kevin So red for money probably means that's bad. Kevin You're you're negative money, you don't have any money. Jack That's how much money you owe. Jack You have to still pay and. Kevin Right. Jack Yeah, and so if you're in the red, that means that you have you owe more money than you have. Kevin Yeah, that's no good. Jack You know, it's no good, but if you're in the black, you have more money than you. Jack Oh, and you can buy things. Jack And so that's a that's a good thing. Kevin So it's always better to be in the black if if someone is in the red, that means they're struggling with their business or or whatever it is. Jack And yeah, oh, sorry. Jack I was just going to say during the during coronavirus you would hear this expression a lot because a lot of companies were in the red because of the pandemic. Kevin Because people aren't shopping and things. Jack So yeah, exactly. Kevin Yep, true. Kevin All right. Kevin So then, how about making ends meet? Kevin So what's an end? Kevin How do we what is an end and how? Kevin Does it meet? Jack Yeah, making an end pizza. Kevin Yeah, this is a tough one to get. Jack Yeah, this is a hard one. Jack This one is a very common expression that we use in English, though very common. Kevin Actually, yeah, this one. Kevin Yeah, one that I definitely would use more more regularly than some others. Jack Yeah, so making ends meet means earning enough money to pay your bills. Jack That's it, basically. Jack And so you might you might hear the expression it's difficult to make ends meet means it's hard to earn enough money to pay. Jack All of my bills, right? Jack My rent, my car payment, food, insurance, my children school fees, all these things are expenses that I have. Kevin Right, all your bills. Jack And so that means I have to. Jack Earn that much money in order to pay for all these things, and if I can pay for all of them, I make ends meet. Jack That's a good thing. Jack Make ends meet. Jack Everything is paid for in full. Jack But if I can't make ends meet, that means I'm not able to pay all of my bills. Jack For all of my expenses. Kevin Right, yeah. Kevin And if you if you make ends meet, it means that you're in the black like we just talked about, but usually not by a lot. Kevin You're not making a ton of money. Kevin You're not rich, right? Kevin If you're rich, you're not going to be talking about making ends meet. Kevin Making ends meet is like I can pay all my bills, I've got my food, I'm OK, but I'm not saving a ton or I don't have a lot of extra money, but I can make ends meet. Kevin I'm OK right here. close. Jack Yeah, exactly. Jack You're just making ends meet. Jack But that's if something bad happens.  Jack You know, if your car breaks down or. Kevin Yeah, you're going to be in the. Kevin Red very quick. Jack You might be in the red. Jack So you had. Jack So making ends meet is not exactly being super successful. Jack It's just surviving. Kevin Right. Jack You know? Kevin Right, exactly, exactly. Jack You're surviving. Kevin And then last, and this is more the opposite of that, is to have a Midas touch. Kevin And so someone has this, you have the Midas touch. Kevin And this is from a really old story. Kevin I don't know if our listeners would know. Kevin The story of King Midas. Kevin And we don't need to say the whole story, but basically the story. Kevin King Midas was a king way back in the day, or at least in this story. Kevin And everything that he would touch would turn to gold, right? Kevin So if he touched his desk, boom, gold desk, you know, if he, if he touched his glass, boom, gold glass and and there were problems and everything with the story. Kevin But we don't need to get into that. Kevin I think you can guess then what uh, Midas touch means, right? Kevin If everything you touch. Kevin Turns into gold. Kevin That's probably a good thing. Kevin Right, you've got a lot of gold. Kevin That's very lucky. Jack Yeah, and have you ever had a friend who no matter what kind of business that they start, it always ends up successful? Jack You know, so this person starts a business or starts a job and they make a lot of money and everything is just works out perfectly. 발표자 1 Right. Jack They have the Midas touch, you know? Jack It's just like everything you touch turns to gold and so. Kevin Everything just works out. Kevin It succeeds. Kevin Successful, yeah. Jack Yeah, we're often, oftentimes we become jealous of these people because are they lucky? Jack Are they just very talented? Jack Are they super smart? Jack What is their secret? Jack Why is why does everything? Jack When I try, I'm in the red. Jack When they try, they got the Midas touch, you know? Jack They're always in the black. Kevin Right. Jack So yeah, it's a funny thing. Jack Some people are just really good at business, you know, just good at making money. Jack So they have the Midas touch. Kevin Yeah, so I I wish I had a Midas touch, that's for sure. Jack Yeah, right. Kevin All right, so everybody that the three idioms there were, again to be in the black or in the red, to make ends meet and to have a Midas. Kevin Touch and these are some great idioms that we use from time to time in English. Kevin So come and join us in our WhatsApp or Facebook groups and try and use these idioms for for yourself. Kevin Give us an example of where or when you might use them. Kevin And remember, if you're on Apple Podcasts, if you can give us a good review, that would be. Kevin Really helpful for other people to get some more idioms from A-Z. We'll see you next. Kevin Time. Bye bye. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-fluent-mind-esl-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Kevin and Jack talk about three more idioms about money 💰to break evento be closefistedto go DutchWebsite: https://atozenglishpodcast.com/idioms-6/Share your answers to the discussion questions in our WhatsApp group chat! https://forms.gle/zKCS8y1t9jwv2KTn7If you could take a minute and complete a short survey about the podcast, we would be very appreciative. You can find the survey here: https://forms.gle/HHNnnqU6U8W3DodK8We would love to hear your feedbackand suggestions for future episodes.Intro/Outro Music by Eaters: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/eaters/the-astronomers-office/agents-in-coffee-shops/Directions: Use each idiom in a sentence. 1. 2. 3.  Transcript   Jack:  You are listening to the A-Z English podcast.   Kevin:  Welcome to A-Z English, where today we've got some idioms From A-Z. we're going to have three idioms that we're going to put in a quick dialogue for you, and then we're just going to talk about and explain so you can learn how to use them in your everyday speech.   Kevin:  So we've got some more money idioms today, Jack.   Kevin:  What's our what's our dialogue?   Kevin:  Let's start off with this.   Jack:  OK, so Kevin, I got married last week and I went on my, I went on my honeymoon and we nearly.   Jack:  Broke the bank.   Kevin:  Yeah, honeymoons can be expensive.   Kevin:  I really wanted to go on a really big honeymoon, but my wife is really close fisted.   Kevin:  She would never let me spend that much.   Kevin:  Money on just a trap.   Jack:  Well, let's meet up for coffee sometime and talk about.   Jack:  Our honeymoon's.   Kevin:  You know, nice.   Kevin:  That'll be really fun, but we're going to have to go Dutch 'cause.   Kevin:  Like I said, I've got to really watch my money.   Kevin:  I can't spend too much.   Jack:  OK, there we go. Nice.   Kevin:  All right, so.   Kevin:  Anybody listening  Kevin:  Did you did you catch the idioms on there?   Speaker 3  We've got.   Kevin:  Three, the first one was to break the bank, the next is to be close fisted.   Kevin:  And the last is to go Dutch.   Kevin:  This one is probably the most common one, I think.   Kevin:  Go Dutch.   Kevin:  Do you want to just start with that?   Kevin:  One I think.   Speaker 3  Yeah, sure.   Kevin:  That one that I've heard so many people use.   Kevin:  To to go Dutch, I mean even in Korean they use.   Jack:  Dutch pay, yeah.   Kevin:  They changed it though Dutch pay, but it's the same idea to to go Dutch and this is how we use it in English.   Kevin:  To go Dutch or.   Kevin:  Past tense. We went Dutch.   Kevin:  Right. And what does that?   Jack:  To go Dutch means that you split the Bill 50/50 on a date. So if you go on a date with someone.   Jack:  And you go to a restaurant and let's say the meal costs $50.00 five 5050 dollars. One person. The man will where one person will pay $25.00 and the other person will pay $25.00. So you split split it 55th.   Kevin:  Right.   Kevin:  So we got cheaper for the, yeah.   Jack:  Go Dutch.   Jack:  So do you think Dutch people?   Kevin:  Yeah, and I.   Kevin:  Don't know where this one comes from.   Kevin:  They always just.   Kevin:  There's a stereotype.   Kevin:  We should talk about stereotypes sometimes, but there's a stereotype that Dutch people are really cheap, and that's probably not true.   Kevin:  I know some very nice Dutch people, so if there's any Dutch people listening, you know, no offense, but yeah, to go Dutch.   Kevin:  Is because the Dutch people are.   Kevin:  There's a stereotype that they're very cheap and that they would never buy you dinner, but they would go Dutch style.   Kevin:  And you'd have to pay half and half.   Jack:  Like most stereotypes, it's not true.   Jack:  They're not based in reality.   Kevin:  Right.   Kevin:  And then how about them to break the bank?   Kevin:  So is that.   Kevin:  Like robbing a bank.   Kevin:  Can I go in and steal a bunch of money?   Kevin:  Is is that without breaking the bank name?   Jack:  No, this one I think.   Jack:  I think this one has to do with.   Jack:  I'm not sure, but I believe it has to.   Jack:  Do with the Piggy Bank.   Jack:  And so you know a Piggy Bank is a little a little glass it it can't be anything but long time ago they they were glass pigs and it has a little slot on the top.   Kevin:  Oh, that makes sense. That's.   Kevin:  A Piggy Bank just for.    Jack:  Of it where you can put a coin inside.   Jack:  Side and you fill it up and what would happen is kids would mostly, kids would use piggy banks and they would put their little coins in there and then when it's all full they would smash it with a hammer and then count up the coins and then take it to the bank and you know, get dollars or or open a bank account.   Jack:  Or something like that.   Kevin:  Kind of a way to save money at home.   Kevin:  You would put put coins into your Piggy Bank at at home.   Kevin:  That's an interesting idiom in itself, actually.   Kevin:  Is the Piggy Bank.   Kevin:  That mention of a Piggy Bank?   Kevin:  Most most countries wouldn't have that.   Kevin:  So yeah, it could save you, save money in your Piggy Bank, and it's, yeah, shaped like a pig.   Kevin:  So yeah, you break the Piggy Bank.   Kevin:  And that means that you.   Kevin:  Spend almost all your money, yes.   Kevin:  You spend a lot of money.   Kevin:  Similar to costing an arm and a leg  but a little bit different.   Kevin:  It just almost cost all of it.   Kevin:  So, you know, I bought a house last week.   Kevin:  We almost broke the bank and it was very expensive.   Kevin:  Like almost all my money is gone for breaking the bank.   Jack:  Yeah, yeah.   Jack:  Not just your regular spending money, but your savings.   Jack:  So are you breaking into your savings?   Kevin:  Yeah, right, right.   Kevin:  Taking all your money out.   Kevin:  Of the bank account to to buy.   Kevin:  Whatever it is and then finally close fisted so to be close to close something and your fist is you know when you punch someone you know you put your hand into a fist is closed fisted so when your fist is closed what does what.   Kevin:  Does this mean to?   Kevin:  Be close fisted he or she was close fisted.   Jack:  So imagine that there's like a dollar inside your hand, and your right wrapped your hand.   Jack:  You're making a fist, and you've got your dollar so tightly in your hand that you're making a.   Kevin:  I've got my dollar.   Jack:  Just close fisted means you don't want to pay for anything.   Jack:  You know, you just want to hold onto your money and not let your money go.   Kevin:  Right.   Jack:  And so if somebody says you're closed fisted, it means you're cheap.   Jack:  You don't want to pay for anything.   Kevin:  Yeah, so like there's there's a work office.   Kevin:  Party coming up.   Kevin:  Really soon, right? And everyone is paying $5 to buy some snacks for the party.   Kevin:  And it's like we go up and it's like, hey, Steve, do you think did Steve give his money?   Kevin:  For the office party.   Kevin:  It's like, Oh no, Steve is really close fisted, he wouldn't even give us.   Kevin:  $5 for the Christmas party, he's.   Kevin:  He's really cheap.   Jack:  Or you wanna you forgot your wallet at home and you want to borrow a dollar from your coworker to get.   Jack:  A. A split.   Jack:  In the soda machine.   Jack:  And you say, hey, can I?   Jack:  Can I borrow a dollar?   Jack:  I'll pay you.   Jack:  Back tomorrow?   Jack:  Oh no, I don't have any.   Jack:  I don't have a dollar, you know, but they really do.   Jack:  And so they're being close fisted, you know, they don't want to.   Kevin:  Yeah, yeah.   Jack:  To lend you.   Jack:  Any money or give you any money?   Kevin:  Right.   Kevin:  Being really stingy, really not spending, not spending your money, being very Scrooge.   Jack:  Yeah, stingy.   Kevin:  Y finish with your month.   Jack:  We have a lot of words for.   Jack:  That right?   Jack:  Tight, cheap, stingy.   Jack:  Yeah, yeah.   Jack:  Yeah, or?   Kevin:  Quite, quite a few.   Kevin:  I guess we Americans don't like to spend money.   Kevin:  Which we try and keep it all.   Speaker 3  Yeah, yeah.   Kevin:  Well, those those are our three idioms for the day.   Kevin:  So again to break the bank or past tense broke the bank, we broke the bank to be close fisted and to go Dutch or we went Dutch in the past tense.   Kevin:  So for everybody listening in our show notes or on our website, you can join our WhatsApp group on Facebook or leave a comment right on the website and give us some examples trying to use these idioms.   Kevin:  When was something that you when you almost broke the bank?   Kevin:  Do you have any friends who are closed fisted?   Kevin:  When was the last time?   Kevin:  You and your friends went Dutch.   Kevin:  You know what's common for you and your friends.   Kevin:  Do you spend money?   Kevin:  Does one person by or do?   Kevin:  You usually go Dutch.   Kevin:  So give us some examples of those.   Kevin:  And if you've got time as well, please don't be stingy, don't be close fisted.   Kevin:  Go onto Apple Podcasts and leave us a comment and a quick five star review and that would.   Kevin:  Really help other people to find out about some more idioms from A-Z English. So thanks everybody and we'll see you next time.   Jack:  Bye, bye. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-fluent-mind-esl-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Kevin and Jack talk about mistakes they've made at work in the past, and how they solved the problem.Website: https://atozenglishpodcast.com/what-mistakes-have-you-made-at-work/Share your answers to the discussion questions in our WhatsApp group chat! https://forms.gle/zKCS8y1t9jwv2KTn7With listener mail from episode 14: https://atozenglishpodcast.com/technology-from-the-80s-and-90s/If you could take a minute and complete a short survey about the podcast, we would be very appreciative. You can find the survey here: https://forms.gle/HHNnnqU6U8W3DodK8We would love to hear your feedbackand suggestions for future episodes.Intro/Outro Music by Eaters: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/eaters/the-astronomers-office/agents-in-coffee-shops/Discussion Questions: 1.    Have you made any workplace mistakes? 2.    What mistake did you make? 3.    What happened as a result of your mistake? Full Transcript:  Jack:  You are listening to the A-Z English podcast.   Kevin:  Welcome to an A-Z English quick chat. We're going to surprise each other with the topic for the day and see where the conversation goes.   Kevin:  Remember to check our website for study guides with vocabulary, notes, discussion questions and more.   Kevin:  There's also links to our WhatsApp, Facebook and other social media where you can join in the conversation.   Kevin:  And share your thoughts.   Kevin:  So today, Jack, what do you what do you want to talk about?   Jack:  So today I thought we could talk about a mistake that you have made at work.   Jack:  And so and yeah, and maybe.   Kevin:  Oh the work mistake.   Kevin:  Oh, that sounds like an interview question I ask.   Jack:  It does.   Kevin:  You how did?   Kevin:  You what?   Kevin:  What mistake did you make and how?   Kevin:  Did you fix it?   Jack:  Yeah, yeah.   Kevin:  But it is it.   Kevin:  Is a good thing and everyone has made mistakes.   Jack:  At work everybody has made a mistake, but I think I have one mistake that I made that was that was very much an unnecessary like I I just kind of.   Jack:  We call that.   Jack:  Like a forced.   Jack:  Error, uh, kind of.   Jack:  And So what job was this?   Jack:  This is a long time ago.   Jack:  I used to work in the shipping industry in Thailand, so I was a teacher and then I was.   Speaker 1  Oh, OK.   Jack:  I worked for a shipping company for almost a.   Jack:  Year now.   Jack:  And yes, this was a large company that did shipping in a lot of Asia and Southeast Asia, but they were an American company.   Jack:  Uhm, the mistake that I made was we send a lot of emails back in that time and I think you probably are familiar with, you know, working in an office or even if you're not familiar with working in office.   Jack:  There's just a lot of, yeah, there's like a, you know, there's almost like a, you know, these long e-mail threads.   Kevin:  I've been teacher forever.   Jack:  So you'll send an e-mail to somebody, and then you'll reply in that e-mail and send it back, and then they'll send it to another person.   Kevin:  Ah, yes.   Jack:  And so this long red starts building.   Jack:  On this e-mail.   Jack:  And so I was dealing with a.   Jack:  A person in another office in another country, but he worked for the same company and.   Kevin:  OK.   Jack:  Within that e-mail, I was replying back to my colleague who was in my office but in another room so we would send emails back and forth and I called the guy at this other office in another country I called.   Jack:  Him a clown.   Jack:  I I wrote it right in the e-mail.   Jack:  So I called him a clown.   Jack:  I said, what is this clown doing?   Jack:  Something like that.   Jack:  Like I called him, right and part of the the the American.   Jack:  Company structures that you never antagonize.   Jack:  You never say something bad about a coworker.   Jack:  You have to be a team player, and you should speak badly about people.   Jack:  You probably shouldn't do it, even in talking, you know.   Jack:  Gossip and stuff.   Jack:  But especially you should never write it down.   Jack:  In an e-mail.   Kevin:  I I don't think that's only American.   Kevin:  I think that's just general, like office etiquette.   Jack:  This general's lightness or etiquette, right? Right. That's true. That's true. Yeah.   Kevin:  Yeah, yeah.   Kevin:  Don't be rude.   Kevin:  Don't don't don't call people names.   Jack:  It might be the yeah, it might be even worse in other places, like in American company, you probably just get.   Jack:  So I I sent this e-mail to my colleague and then I realized that I already sent it and I can't take it back.   Jack:  And so I went and talked to her.   Jack:  I'm like, did you see my e-mail?   Jack:  And she goes, yeah.   Jack:  Did you do?   Jack:  That and I go, well I didn't, I didn't know it was, you know, for everybody.   Jack:  I hit reply all.   Jack:  So it's all everybody.   Jack:  Right.   Kevin:  Yeah, it wasn't just to the friends that like the coworker next.   Jack:  No, this one went to everybody in the e-mail chain.   Kevin:  To you.   Jack:  So it went to the guy who I called the clown.   Jack:  So it went into his e-mail.   Kevin:  But that's yeah, that's as bad.   Jack:  So I'm screwed, right?   Kevin:  The wrong that's pushing the.   Kevin:  Wrong button, yes.   Jack:  Yeah, so that's a big mistake.   Jack:  I called, I called him a clown and and my boss has access to read all the emails so they have like A at like admin, you know staff.   Jack:  Right.   Jack:  So what I did was I knew another person that worked in his office in this other country.   Jack:  So I called her up and I said, hey, do you remember we met at the conference last month and she said, yeah, we were, we got, we became friends and they said I just made a huge mistake.   Jack:  I sent this e-mail and I called your coworker.   Jack:  A clown.   Jack:  And she goes, well, he is a clown.   Jack:  I go, yeah, but I.   Jack:  Wrote it down.   Jack:  In the e-mail and she goes, Oh my God, why did you do that?   Jack:  And of course.   Kevin:  You're the clown now, dad.   Jack:  I'm an idiot, yeah, I'm a clown, I asked her.   Jack:  Is there any way you can get on his computer and delete the message?    Double cabins.   Jack:  And she said she said I'll try and then she's on the phone with me and she's watching him and he got up and he went to the bathroom or the another room.   Kevin:  It's impossible.   Jack:  She's like, he's gone, I'm going to go for it and what is the e-mail?   Jack:  And then she sat down on the computer and one minute later she came back to the phone and.   Jack:  She said it's done, I deleted it.   Jack:  And so I never got in.   Jack:  Trouble for that mistake, but I will see close.   Kevin:  So that's really amazing that you didn't get in trouble for it because you sent it to so many people.   Kevin:  And how did it not get back to?   Kevin:  Him, even if.   Kevin:  He didn't see it like someone else would have been like.   Kevin:  What did you think about the fact that Jack called you a clown in that?   Jack:  E-mail and he would have been like, well, I think that when you write an e-mail thread, you know it.   Jack:  Starts getting buried.   Jack:  Down in the bottom, so nobody was actually.   Kevin:  I'm sure the people who are nobody else was, nobody else cared.   Jack:  Nobody is reading old e-mail threads, you know what I mean?   Jack:  So yeah, there might have been.   Jack:  It might have been just between me, my colleague and him.   Jack:  So it might have just been the three of us.   Jack:  And so he was the one that was in on that and I didn't want him to see it, so.   Jack:  I got saved.   Kevin:  Yeah, yeah.   Kevin:  So something important for our listeners, make sure you don't push the reply to all button and your emails.   Kevin:  Another really good tip for for emails actually is delete all the people to whom you're going to send it and then type the e-mail first.   Kevin:  That way you can't accidentally hit send.   Jack:  Oh, that's a good idea too, yeah.   Kevin:  Right, take all the names out, because if you hit send, your e-mail is just gonna be like we're sending this too.   Kevin:  So make it all empty and then type it and then read it and proofread and.   Kevin:  Proofreading is always important, of course, as well.   Kevin:  Yeah, my mistake that I made.   Kevin:  At at work was.   Kevin:  Not definitely not something that would get me fired.   Kevin:  It's more of a teaching mistake, which I think you can understand.   Jack:  No, I've made plenty, yeah.   Kevin:  Oh yeah, we've made tons of mistakes while teaching.   Kevin:  And this was when I was, it was my first time teaching.   Kevin:  So like many years ago, I was a student at university still and I was just a teaching assistant and.   Kevin:  As a teaching assistant, I was working under the professor in my department and she was the main teacher.   Kevin:  She was the professor of the class.   Kevin:  But sometimes she would let the teachers assistant teach, and so it was my turn to teach for the day and she actually gave me a lesson of, you know.   Kevin:  She's like, teach this.   Kevin:  And it was perfect.   Kevin:  The lesson was like.   Kevin:  Talk about this for 5 minutes, this for seven minutes, this for 5 minutes.   Kevin:  It was very, very specific and it was my major.   Kevin:  I've been studying it for years like, oh this is no problem, this will be very easy.   Kevin:  But one thing I didn't know about teaching that I do know.   Kevin:  Now is that giving a presentation and teaching are very different things.   Kevin:  Even though you're up on stage and you're talking to a group, it's a very different thing.   Kevin:  And so I just remember I got up to give my presentation, my teaching lesson for the day and what was supposed to be a one hour.   Kevin:  Listen, I knew all the material.   Kevin:  I taught it very well still, but I'm just like, OK, here's, you know, ABCD.   Kevin:  Just teaching everything and then I finished and I was done and it was only 30 minutes into the class.   Jack:  Oh boy.   Kevin:  Halfway through and I look up at.   Kevin:  The clock and I'm like.   Speaker 4  Uh, so does anyone have any questions?   Kevin:  And of course, no one has any questions either.   Jack:  No, they just want.   Kevin:  The glass like they.   Jack:  To leave there, we done, you done.   Kevin:  Just want to.   Kevin:  Leave and I was like, well.   Speaker 4  I guess we're done for the day, so.   Speaker 4  So thank you very much.   Speaker 4  I'll see you next time.   Kevin:  And I immediately was like, oh.   Kevin:  I can't believe I did this.   Kevin:  And and all the students once they were happy and so they didn't really mind and then I.   Kevin:  But I went back to my.   Kevin:  Professor and I was like, I'm sorry, it was supposed to be one hour and it was only 30 minutes and I felt terrible that I'd like taught left and terribly and everything.   Kevin:  And she, of course, was like, it's OK, you'll get better and everything.   Kevin:  And now.   Kevin:  Of course I I do get better, but I think.   Kevin:  This is a good example of a mistake where I learn something from it.   Kevin:  After and I'm going to tell all of our listeners a little teaching.   Kevin:  Secret now is I still make mistakes teaching.   Kevin:  Almost every day I make a mistake teaching, but.   Kevin:  My students don't know that I make mistakes, and some days I do finish class early because students don't ask questions.   Kevin:  Or maybe the students all understand it.   Kevin:  It's very fast.   Kevin:  So now if I finish early instead of going, oh, sorry, we we finished.   Kevin:  OK, bye now.   Kevin:  I just say, hey, good job.   Kevin:  We finished early today.   Kevin:  I'll see you.   Kevin:  All next time, like it was my plan.   Jack:  Yeah, right.   Kevin:  So now I just lie.   Kevin:  About it.   Kevin:  So every mistake I make is not a.   Kevin:  Mistake. It's my plan and.   Kevin:  I I no longer make mistakes.   Kevin:  As far as my students know, I make mistakes.   Kevin:  I know the mistakes, but nobody else knows knows that.   Jack:  I made them.   Jack:  Yeah, that's great, this kid.   Jack:  Learn from your mistakes and.   Jack:  Then just own them.   Jack:  And no one would know, yeah.   Kevin:  Yeah. Learn.   Kevin:  Yeah, or learn how.   Kevin:  To change a.   Kevin:  Mistake into your plan, right?   Kevin:  If it's not something big like calling them a clown.   Kevin:  And then easily you can.   Jack:  Yeah, that was just a mistake.   Kevin:  Yeah, that was just a mistake.   Kevin:  But if it's if it's not something big that hurts someone, you can always just.   Kevin:  Be like, oh.   Kevin:  Yeah, I I did that on purpose.   Kevin:  Oh, I wasn't supposed to do it.   Kevin:  Oh, sorry, I won't do it next time, but just just every mistake doesn't need to be a mistake.   Kevin:  Unless you admit that it was a mistake.   Jack:  And it's all on your face.   Jack:  You know they can read your face, so if it looks like you made a mistake and you're mad at yourself, but if you just.   Jack:  Keep smiling.   Jack:  Everything is going to be fine, you know?   Kevin:  Yep, it really is interesting how teaching and how a lot of life is a little bit of acting.   Kevin:  There's a little bit of acting involved with.   Kevin:  Just about everything.   Kevin:  And yeah, if you don't show that it was a mistake, then it wasn't a mistake, and you're the person you're talking to doesn't know.   Jack:  There you go.   Kevin:  Well, for everybody out there listening, what about you?   Kevin:  If you've got a part time job or a full time job, or maybe just in school and you've made some kind of mistake or you've done something that you shouldn't have done, what was it?   Kevin:  Was it a big mistake?   Kevin:  Was it a bad mistake?   Kevin:  Did you get in trouble for it?   Kevin:  What happened afterwards?   Kevin:  And what did you learn from the mistake?   Kevin:  Very important key for for this.   Kevin:  So everybody, thanks for listening.   Kevin:  Remember on our web web page or in the show notes, you can join our WhatsApp group to tell us what you think and ask questions or just join the discussion.   Kevin:  Also, if you're on Apple Podcasts and you can leave us a comment.   Kevin:  Under review that would be super helpful and everyone else can be able to see the A-Z English for them as well.   Kevin:  So thanks a lot.   Kevin:  And try not to make any mistakes today.   Kevin:  See you next time.   Speaker 1  Bye, bye.  Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-fluent-mind-esl-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Kevin, Jack, and Xochitl talk about being an introvert, an extrovert, or as Jack and Kevin learned for the first time, an ambivert. What about you? In what situations are you introverted or extroverted?Website: https://atozenglishpodcast.com/?p=1856Share your answers to the discussion questions in our WhatsApp group chat! https://forms.gle/zKCS8y1t9jwv2KTn7If you could take a minute and complete a short survey about the podcast, we would be very appreciative. You can find the survey here: https://forms.gle/HHNnnqU6U8W3DodK8We would love to hear your feedback and suggestions for future episodes.Intro/Outro Music by Eaters: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/eaters/the-astronomers-office/agents-in-coffee-shops/Discussion Questions: 1.    Are you an introvert, an extrovert, or an ambivert? And why do you think so?2.    Do you know any introverts or extroverts?3.    Why do you think most people are ambiverts?  Full Transcript: 00:00:02JackYou are listening to the A-Z English podcast.00:00:10KevinWelcome to an A-Z English quick chat. We're going to surprise each other with a topic for the day and see where the conversation goes.00:00:17KevinRemember, you can check our website for study guide with vocabulary, notes, discussion, questions and more, as well as links to our WhatsApp, Facebook and other social media. So you 2.00:00:27KevinCan join in the conversation.00:00:29KevinSo Jack, how you doing today?00:00:31JackI'm pretty good.00:00:31KevinWhat do you want to talk about?00:00:33JackYou know what I want to talk about?00:00:35JackWhether you think the three of us, do you think you are an extrovert or an introvert?00:00:41JackAnd so that might be some, we might have to explain the vocabulary there first before we yeah.00:00:46KevinI think we should.00:00:48JackSo how would you describe an introvert?00:00:48KevinI think we should.00:00:51JackWhat does that mean?00:00:53KevinIntroverts, no go ahead.00:00:53발표자 1I think.00:00:54KevinSo, So what do you think?00:00:55XochitlOh, there's an introvert is someone who feels recharged by spending time alone.00:00:59XochitlThat's the basic and an extroverted so many feels recharged by spending time with others.00:01:04XochitlPeople so.00:01:05KevinI like that definition.00:01:06JackI do too.00:01:07KevinBeing recharged by by that, yeah, someone who's better alone or better with people.00:01:12KevinBut yeah, you get energy from from that.00:01:15KevinAnd the opposite is takes your energy away, right?00:01:18KevinLike if you're an introvert and you're with a lot of people, that's very difficult.00:01:22KevinIt it's draining your batteries and if you're an extrovert in your home.00:01:25KevinAlone, you're just bored and and wasting time.00:01:28KevinNice. That's a cool definition.00:01:29JackSo let's let's let's start with social first.00:01:32JackHow would you define yourself?00:01:34JackWould you say you're an extrovert or an intro?00:01:36XochitlSo I'm actually an ambivert and this is like why I thought of this as well.00:01:42XochitlI was like, everyone is like, oh, there's like a meme that goes around.00:01:45XochitlIt's like, oh, I'm an extroverted introvert.00:01:47XochitlOr I'm an introvert, extrovert.00:01:48XochitlAnd like, the word you're looking for is anywhere.00:01:50발표자 5Please could someone just understand?00:01:52XochitlBecause when I I remember when I took psych caught like 18 psych in high school, our teacher literally was like, yeah, most people like 99% of people are actually Angry Birds is.00:02:02XochitlReally rare for people to be a true introvert or true extrovert and I really.00:02:06KevinThis is actually the first time I've heard that term of ambivert as well.00:02:09발표자 1Yeah, is this?00:02:10KevinAnd of course, right.00:02:10JackAm by like that and be.00:02:13XochitlYeah, and I and.00:02:14KevinWell, OK, think about think about it, Jack.00:02:16KevinLike, ambidextrous, right?00:02:17KevinIf you use both hands and I am B.00:02:18JackYeah, right, right. Yeah.00:02:20KevinSo yeah, ambidextrous, both hands.00:02:23KevinThat's interesting.00:02:23KevinYeah, so an ambivert someone who in some situations is introverted in some situations is is extroverted.00:02:31XochitlYeah, and I really, I think the biggest thing for me is like I I can't like, I used to spend a lot of.00:02:38XochitlTime alone, but I think.00:02:40XochitlIt's I feel better when I go out and spend time with friends and like do.00:02:44XochitlThings but when I come home, I.00:02:46XochitlNeed like a solid amount of?00:02:47XochitlTime to myself too.00:02:48XochitlI can't just like a lot of my sister is a true extrovert and she'll just, like go out with people.00:02:53XochitlSpend the whole day with people.00:02:55XochitlDo everything people.00:02:55XochitlCome home to like.00:02:57XochitlHer two dogs, 3 cats and whatever like.00:03:00XochitlAnd then go.00:03:00발표자 1Yeah, right.00:03:00XochitlAnd then just like blow this week and I'm like, no, no, no, if I go out with people, I needed a solid hour or two to myself.00:03:06XochitlSo will wind down 1st and.00:03:08XochitlThen go to.00:03:08KevinRight, exactly.00:03:08발표자 1Sleep, but if I.00:03:10XochitlSpend too much time alone, I also.00:03:12XochitlDon't feel well, so I'm definitely just.00:03:13XochitlLike a true and.00:03:17KevinI think, I think we're going to, we'll probably all say now that we've learned this new word from you.00:03:21KevinSo that's why I think I also am an ambivert.00:03:24KevinBut but we can define these a little bit more.00:03:26KevinI think for me, my case is also kind of interesting, I mean.00:03:32KevinI think all of us here, we have to be at least somewhat extroverted because we're recording ourselves and.00:03:38KevinPutting it on the Internet for people to see.00:03:40KevinA true introvert would not be willing to do this right.00:03:44KevinThis would be scary for treasure, right?00:03:44JackNo, this would be health and yeah, be terrible, yeah.00:03:49KevinAnd then like the.00:03:50KevinThree of us.00:03:50KevinAlso, we've all lived in other countries.00:03:52KevinWe all came to Korea like, that's something that, for a true introvert, would be very difficult to do so overall.00:03:58KevinI'm pretty extroverted in many ways, though, I'm the same like when I come home after a long day of school.00:04:04KevinI'm talking to students all day.00:04:06KevinI kind of do want just 30 minutes or an hour.00:04:08KevinJust to not talk.00:04:10KevinAnd just calm down.00:04:12KevinBut my case is kind of interesting because when I was a kid I was crazy shy.00:04:17KevinLike crazy shy, I was the kid who would hide behind my mom's leg and be like, don't talk to me.00:04:24KevinDon't look at me.00:04:24KevinOh my God.00:04:26KevinAnd and so I was super introverted, super shy when I was very young and then sometime between high school and university I kind of came out of my shell and and found the extrovert Kevin that that I am now.00:04:46XochitlI would say I really relate to that because.00:04:48XochitlI remember when I was a kid, my parents.00:04:50XochitlAnd I do.00:04:50XochitlRemember, doing this people would come up.00:04:51XochitlTalking and I say.00:04:52XochitlDon't talk to me, I'm shy.00:04:55JackThat's an extroverted, that's a that's a power.00:04:58JackMove right there.00:04:59발표자 5Yeah, my dad was like, you're not shy, you're reserving.00:05:03발표자 5You just don't want to bother with these people.00:05:05발표자 5Like, really weird a little kid to be that way.00:05:08발표자 1Right.00:05:08XochitlSo yeah, and my sister was a true extrovert.00:05:11XochitlMy mom said it's fine 'cause.00:05:12XochitlShe's my older sister, and when she would talk to strangers, I'd be like.00:05:15XochitlDon't talk to strangers like let's go.00:05:18발표자 5Young like a six year.00:05:20XochitlOld being like don't hug strangers.00:05:22KevinStranger danger?00:05:24KevinAnd what about you, Jack?00:05:25JackI'm definitely an ambivert and I just learned that term right now, but.00:05:31발표자 1Give me for.00:05:31KevinSmith and more give you some details.00:05:32JackTop yeah, so yeah, so I'm trying to think.00:05:34JackLike for me.00:05:36JackGoing out with people is a little bit stressful.00:05:39JackIt gives me anxiety.00:05:41JackSo I'm OK with not doing that.00:05:45JackWhere, you know, like an extrovert really wants to meet up with friends and go out.00:05:49JackFor me it's like it feels like effort and work and then once I'm out and I'm, I'm with my friends and doing something.00:05:57JackI feel great.00:05:58JackI'm like I'm so.00:05:59JackGlad I did this.00:06:00JackI'm so glad I decided to, you know, come out of my.00:06:05JackLittle apartment, my little house, and to, you know, actually interact with other people, humans.00:06:11JackBut I do tend to kind of go back to being alone and I think it has something to do with just the nature of.00:06:21JackOf living in another country and not really understanding the language and the customs and stuff that.00:06:27JackUh, and so I would often spend a lot of time by myself and just kind of put my headphones in and just I really.00:06:36JackBe kind of introverted, but I don't I think naturally I'm, I'm, you know, kind of in the middle, you know, just a just a regular, you know person, a little bit of both.00:06:46KevinYeah, yeah.00:06:48KevinI think travel.00:06:49KevinIs where this really can come out in people in one way or the other.00:06:52KevinIs depending on your travel styles and and this might be something interesting as well to talk about in a future episode is how do you like?00:07:00KevinTo travel but.00:07:02KevinLike when you guys have.00:07:03KevinYou ever done much solo traveling just to another country for, you know, a week or two just completely on your own, or do you prefer to travel with?00:07:11XochitlI mean I.00:07:12XochitlWent to Korea solo, right?00:07:13XochitlAnd I'm here in Mexico, so so I guess, yeah, I'm mad.00:07:17KevinI'm gonna say though, that that's a little bit different from traveling because that's going to move and to live there.00:07:24KevinI'm saying like you go to Thailand or.00:07:28KevinCanada or Russia, pick a country for just you know like 2 weeks just to travel and.00:07:33KevinJust to do.00:07:34KevinSightseeing and and just be a tourist.00:07:35KevinAre you going to do that alone or with friends?00:07:39발표자 5I think I preferred to trout like when I.00:07:42XochitlWas in Korea and.00:07:43XochitlI would travel to different places within Korea.00:07:45KevinRight. OK.00:07:45XochitlYou commit with my friends and.00:07:47XochitlThe funny thing is, they are definitely moments where I was like it probably better if I was alone.00:07:51XochitlBut I could do everything that I.00:07:53XochitlWanted to.00:07:53XochitlDo and not have to worry about it everyone else wants to do.00:07:56XochitlBut I do think there's something comforting about having a group of.00:08:01XochitlPeople well as a woman too, like that's another.00:08:03XochitlThing having the people that.00:08:05XochitlYou know, and not having.00:08:06KevinOf course.00:08:06XochitlTo travel like solo because.00:08:09XochitlYeah, Korea is pretty safe.00:08:10XochitlBut like here in Mexico, I would never.00:08:12XochitlAnd it's sad 'cause.00:08:13XochitlI wanna be able to travel to more places in Mexico, but I just would never do that as a as a woman here, because it's not that safe, not you know.00:08:20XochitlTo change the topic or anything but.00:08:22XochitlI think that.00:08:22KevinIt's a it's a fair, yeah.00:08:24KevinI mean, so like, I mean me talking about traveling alone versus you talking about traveling on is, is is a different thing unfortunately.00:08:32JackBut I mean, it's funny because I've never done that before.00:08:35JackI've never traveled alone like I I didn't.00:08:38JackI moved to another country alone.00:08:40JackBut as far as jet going travelling, like if I were to just go on, buy a eurail pass and just go see like a bunch of European countries, I would never do that by myself.00:08:51JackI'm too scared. I'm, I'm still, I'm 45, but I'm like, I'm gonna get lost in the Czech Republic. No one will. They'll find my body in the forest or something, because I.00:09:01JackYou know, got lost.00:09:02JackI mean, I just, I just think it's a bit extreme, but.00:09:04KevinIt's a bit extreme, Jack, but.00:09:06JackI'm just like I just.00:09:07JackI need, like, the companionship to feel safe, like there's two of us.00:09:12JackWe can figure this out alone.00:09:14JackI feel like I I don't know.00:09:16JackI just.00:09:17JackI probably would be fine, but.00:09:18JackI just feel like I lack.00:09:19JackThe skills or they know how to just kind of navigate that situation.00:09:24JackSo I like someone with me to make me feel comfortable, even though I probably don't need.00:09:29JackThat person, if that makes sense.00:09:31KevinNice for me and I think we can maybe wrap up with us and we should come back and talk about this again.00:09:37Kevin'cause we can do get much more into depth, although now I almost never travel alone.00:09:43KevinThat's because I'm married.00:09:45JackAnyway, I'm saying for me too, yeah.00:09:45KevinAlso, I have a permanent amazing travel companion, but before I got married, almost every trip I did.00:09:56KevinActually, not almost every trip that I did, at least after university, once I moved to to Korea was so low I was just like, I'm just going to go to some country for, you know, a month.00:10:06KevinI went to Bali for a month.00:10:07KevinI went on that island for a month.00:10:08KevinThere's just boom, boom, boom.00:10:10KevinJust go to to travel alone and.00:10:13KevinAnd I loved it because.00:10:18KevinIn order to not be bored, I had to push myself to be an extrovert.00:10:23KevinSo some days I don't want to be extroverted.00:10:25KevinI was like, I just want to stay at home and and and be introverted today.00:10:29KevinBut then I'd sit in my room and I'm like, I'm bored.00:10:33KevinI want to meet some people and like all, but I'm feeling lazy, I'm feeling introverted.00:10:36KevinI'm like, but I'm bored and I don't want to be bored, so I would go out.00:10:39KevinAnd I would force myself to meet.00:10:40KevinPeople, and that's hard.00:10:41KevinTo do, but I met some amazing people while traveling around like that, and so I love traveling solo actually, even though I no longer do.00:10:51XochitlYeah, I don't know if you guys have ever.00:10:54XochitlThere's like a meme out.00:10:56XochitlThere, where it's like introverts getting adopted by extroverts.00:11:00발표자 1Ah, OK, that's interesting.00:11:00KevinI haven't seen this one.00:11:01XochitlLike, can you get adopted by an extrovert?00:11:04XochitlAnd this does happen to me, even though I'm an ambivert.00:11:07XochitlBut extroverts tend to adopt me and.00:11:10XochitlLiterally just start.00:11:10XochitlTaking me everywhere and I think.00:11:12XochitlThis is some kind of dynamic that.00:11:15XochitlThat I've had since I was a.00:11:16XochitlKid 'cause, my sister, is a true extrovert.00:11:18XochitlSo she would take me everywhere and like.00:11:19XochitlJack said.00:11:21XochitlHe he would.00:11:22XochitlFeel happy when he.00:11:23XochitlWas out, but he didn't want to go out when.00:11:25XochitlI was younger.00:11:25XochitlI was definitely like, oh, I just want.00:11:27XochitlTo stay at home, I should be like, no?00:11:28XochitlLet's go and.00:11:28XochitlShe just like drag.00:11:29XochitlMe around.00:11:29XochitlEverywhere she went and I feel happy that I was out.00:11:33XochitlBut yeah, I feel like.00:11:34XochitlGetting adopted just haven't been created.00:11:36XochitlAs well, anytime I just go someplace, I.00:11:39XochitlJust end up getting adopted.00:11:40XochitlBy a group of extra braids or a friend group or something and they just start showing.00:11:44발표자 5Me, around everywhere.00:11:45XochitlSo that is, that is a + 2, maybe having a slightly introverted exterior.00:11:51발표자 5When people first meet.00:11:52XochitlI don't know.00:11:53XochitlI don't see that necessarily in all situations, but perhaps in some situations.00:11:58KevinNice I had to do.00:11:59JackYeah, I have like, sorry, go ahead.00:12:00KevinThat I'll go ahead drive.00:12:01JackNo, I was going to say.00:12:02JackI think I have like, uh, resting angry face or something.00:12:06JackSo, like people, when I'm just my, I don't have any emotion and my face is just resting, I look like I'm like a little bit angry or a little scary or something so.00:12:17JackLike a house party.00:12:18JackYou know, those were terrifying situations where you don't know anybody and you're in a house party.00:12:23JackI tend to just kind of go towards the corner and then start observing.00:12:28JackAnd if I'm not adopted by an extrovert, I might.00:12:31JackJust leave, because I just don't have that, whatever.00:12:35JackThat thing is that you know forces you to walk up to a group of strangers and say, hey, my name is Jack.00:12:41JackNice to meet you.00:12:42JackIt's it's really hard for.00:12:44JackMe to do that, so I don't know if that sheds light on it.00:12:47JackLittle bit, but yeah.00:12:50KevinWell, for everybody listening out there, I mean, what about you?00:12:53KevinAre you an introvert and extrovert and ambivert?00:12:57KevinOr when are you introverted?00:12:59KevinWhen are you extroverted, right?00:13:01KevinIf you're an ambivert, tell us some stories about when you were introverted or or when you were extroverted or.00:13:08KevinHow either of those work for you, so.00:13:10발표자There you go.00:13:12KevinSo thanks for listening.00:13:13KevinEverybody remembered.00:13:14KevinYou can check our WhatsApp group to join and tell us what you think.00:13:17KevinOr leave comments on the web page or a Facebook group, of course, and give us all of your comments there.00:13:22KevinOf course, if you're listening on Apple Podcasts and you can give us a 5 star review, that would be super helpful and leave a comment there and hopefully we'll see you all next time here with.00:13:32KevinA-Z English.00:13:33JackAlright, bye. 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In this episode, Kevin and Jack talk about three idioms about money 💰to pay an arm and a leg for somethingto be give someone a run for their moneyto break evenWebsite: https://atozenglishpodcast.com/idioms-5/Share your answers to the discussion questions in our WhatsApp group chat! https://forms.gle/zKCS8y1t9jwv2KTn7If you could take a minute and complete a short survey about the podcast, we would be very appreciative. You can find the survey here: https://forms.gle/HHNnnqU6U8W3DodK8We would love to hear your feedback and suggestions for future episodes.Intro/Outro Music by Eaters: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/eaters/the-astronomers-office/agents-in-coffee-shops/Directions: Use these three idioms in sentences.to pay an arm and a leg for somethingto be give someone a run for their moneyto break evenFull Transcript: Jack: You are listening to the A-Z English podcast. Kevin: Welcome to A-Z English, and today we're bringing you some more idioms from A-Z. We're going to give you a few idioms today. Breaking down an example and then try and explain how you can use them in your everyday speech. So a quick dialogue,Jack:, go ahead. Jack: So Kevin:, I bought a new car yesterday. Kevin: Oh yeah, how much was it? Jack: It was expensive, it cost me an arm and a leg, but I won the race and with my winnings I almost broke even. Kevin: Wow, nice.Kevin: You know, I've got a pretty nice car too, so the next time we're out there we can try and race each other and maybe you can give me a run for my money. Kevin: All right, so everybody out there listening. We had three idioms as always. Did you catch them? And if so, can you think? Of them really quick. Kevin: Well, the three were first to something costs an arm and a leg. #2 to give something or give someone a run for your money and. Finally, to break even. Kevin: So what do these mean? Kevin: Cost an arm and a leg. Jack:, how much was your hat? Well, it costs $10, right? They something cost but to cost an arm and a leg. Kevin: But what does that mean? Kevin: I've only got. Well, I've got two arms. I've got. Two legs. Jack: Right, you only have for your life your yeah, in your whole life you get 2 arms and two legs. Kevin: I keep them all. Jack: So imagine if you bought something and you had to pay with one arm and one leg. Jack: It would be something. Kevin: That sounds very expensive. Jack: It better be something really nice because you're giving up so much, right? Jack: You're giving up your arm and your leg. Jack: And of course. Jack: I think we mentioned this before, but, you know, idioms are metaphors, right? You know, so obviously we're not talking about chopping off your arm or your leg. Kevin: Right. We have really. Jack: But but that's how it. That's how it feels sometimes when you buy something really, really expensive, you feel like you're giving, you're giving so much money for that thing, yeah? Jack: Paying so much money for. It but it feels like. You're giving them your arm and your leg. And so that's where it comes from. Kevin: I remember actually cars are a good example. Kevin: I remember when I bought my first car when I was a student back many years ago in America. It wasn't a very nice car. It wasn't a very expensive car, you know, it was a cheap student car. But for me it cost an arm and a leg because I was a student. I was very. I didn't have a lot of money at the time and so even buying a cheap. Our cost an arm and a leg, so whatever it is, if it costs a Lot for you. It can cost. An arm and a Leg. like we talked About going to space the other day in our space travel episode. Jack: Or yeah. Kevin: And going to space could will cost an arm and a leg. Kevin: It cost so much money, it's very expensive to. Jack: An arm and a leg and. Jack: And maybe an ear and an eyeball. Kevin: Well, maybe that's quite quite a bit to go to space at this point, so let's play to consider. Jack: Yeah, but the idiom is only an arm and a leg, so yes. Jack: Joking there. Kevin: So then next is run for the money to give someone a run for their money. Kevin: Is that how you run? Does money run? Kevin: Do we run for? Do I run to the money? Do I run for the money? What? What is this one? Jack: Yeah, well, is. You know, in our dialogue we talked about a race, so imagine 2 hours are racing and if one car is a BMW and the other car is a very old broken down terrible car. The BMW is going to win and the broken down old car. My few your first, right, mine too. Kevin: First part in high school. Jack: My first car in high school could not give the BMW a run for its money because it cannot match the speed of the BMW. Jack: But what would be maybe like a Mercedes and BMW in that case, Kevin:, what would that be? Jack: The Mercedes? Kevin: Yeah, the that theyCan give each other a run for their money. Kevin: Right, or or. Exactly. They're almost equal, right? Kevin: And yeah, they're almost. Kevin: Almost equal. Kevin: And like if you give someone a run for them and usually you still win, but the other person like competes. Kevin: So you know Jack: you've been. You played a lot of basketball when you were younger and I didn't play a lot. So, you know, you would expect that I wouldn't be very good. But let's say you and I go out to play some basketball and. You know, we play and I almost beat you. You know, we get really close to score and you're like, wow, you gave me a run for your money or run for my money. Like, even though I didn't beat you, you really didn't think I'd have any? Chance at all, but I still did pretty well. Jack: Yeah, it's it's this is. Jack: Always like in the in the theme of like competition. Jack: So think of like running a race, playing basketball, car race. Jack: A marathon like Kevin almost beat me in basketball. Jack: In that case, I would say, wow, you gave me a run for my. Jack: Money you were a. Jack: Good competitor. Jack: You were not easy to defeat. Jack: And so if someone is not easy to defeat then you can say to them, ah, you gave me a run for my money or. Kevin:Yes, exactly. Jack: My almost be. Jack: You and you're really good at something. Jack: I gave you a run for your money. Jack: It was a good competition. Kevin: Yep, Yep, yeah. Jack: It wasn't. Kevin: And then finally, break Even so we're not actually talking about breaking anything here. Kevin: We'd like to keep all of our things intact. Jack: But to break. Kevin: Even means to come to the same level. Kevin: Right. Kevin: So if I went, you talked about winning a race, right? Kevin: And that can be it, but let's say. Kevin: Yesterday I did. Kevin: A part time job and I earned $100 for doing this part time job. Kevin: But then I took my wife out for a really nice dinner. Kevin: And the dinner. Kevin: Was $120.00. Kevin: So I almost broke even in so past tense into past tense verbs or broke even. Kevin: For that, I almost earned the amount of money that I paid for dinner with my part time. Kevin: Yeah, I had to break even. Jack: There you go. Kevin: I'm almost back to zero again. Kevin: You know, I spent a lot of money. Jack: This happened to me the other day. Kevin: But I almost turned again. Jack: I went to the store. Jack: And I bought. Jack: Some milk and I bought some soda and I bought some tuna fish and it was. Jack: About $10. Jack: And then the next day, I woke up, I went outside and I found $10.00 on the sidewalk. Jack: In front of my house. Jack: And so I broke even. I spent right $10.00, but I found $10 and so I didn't lose anything. Jack: I wasn't in the positive or the negative. Jack: It was just a break. Jack: I broke even. Jack: I got my money back and we used a lot. Kevin: Or have you ever bought a lottery ticket? Jack: Of gambling, right? Jack: Yeah, yeah, sure. Kevin: Yeah, I've never I I never was big into lottery. But sometimes my friends and I, we would just like for $1.00 by the little scratch tickets. Kevin: Yeah, and you know, sometimes you'll scratch it off, and most of the time you win nothing. But sometimes you win $1.00 back and it's like, wow, I broke even. I got my $1.00 back. Kevin: I'm, I'm at. Kevin: I didn't win. Kevin: I didn't lose. Kevin: I'm at 0. Jack: Yeah, we have a, we have a a joke in English we call someone who always breaks even, even Steven, right? Jack: Isn't that kind of like a? Jack: I think it's. Kevin: Yeah, it's it's similar.  Uh, yeah. Kevin: It's connected. Kevin: It's like, let's let's do things together. Kevin: Let's do it even Steven, let's let's make everything fair, right? Jack: Oh, there you go, right? Kevin: Even everything zero. Jack: OK. And so you go to, you know, Las Vegas and you lose $10 or you lose $100 and you win $100, you broke even. Jack: So there you go. Jack: Yeah, cool. Kevin: All right. So everybody. Kevin: There we are. Kevin: So to, to. Cost an arm and. Kevin: A leg to give someone a run for your money and to break even. Kevin: So come to our WhatsApp group on our web page or in the show notes and or Facebook or. Kevin: Even on the website. Kevin: You can comment and tell us a time try and use these idioms. Kevin: What was something that you bought? Kevin: That costs an arm and a leg. Kevin: Has someone given you a run for your money with something that you're good at and they almost beat you, but in a competition? Kevin: And was sometime that you broke even? Kevin: Or maybe almost broke even with with money and it came to about 0. Kevin: So thanks for listening and if you're on Apple Podcasts and you can give us a 5 star review and. Leave a comment that would be super helpful and we'll see you all next time for some more idioms A-Z bye bye.   Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-fluent-mind-esl-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this special episode of The A to Z English Podcast, we talk with Yunita from East Java, a student who was interested in English from a young age, and does her best to just make English a habit every day. Come chat with her in our Whatsapp group. (Link here: https://forms.gle/zKCS8y1t9jwv2KTn7)It's a great conversation, so you won't want to miss it!Website: https://atozenglishpodcast.com/?p=1829Share your thoughts about today's interview in our Whatsapp group or tell us if you think you have something interesting to talk about. Perhaps you could be our next guest on the podcast!If you could take a minute and complete a short survey about the podcast, we would be very appreciative. You can find the survey here: https://forms.gle/HHNnnqU6U8W3DodK8We would love to hear your feedback and suggestions for future episodes.Intro/Outro Music by Eaters: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/eaters/the-astronomers-office/agents-in-coffee-shops/Full Transcript: Jack You are listening to the A-Z English podcast. Kevin Welcome to 8 and the English or. Kevin Today we're bringing another listener interview and today we're talking to UNITA from Indonesia, from from East Bali or East Java. Kevin I'm sorry E Java specifically, not too far from Bali as she was telling us before we before we got started here, so. Kevin You need to. Kevin Thanks for joining us. Kevin This evening, is it about dinner time? Yunita Uh, yes, yes. Yunita About to have dinner, but not yet. Yunita I told him to wait. Kevin Yeah, I just finished dinner myself actually, so. Kevin Thanks for joining us. Kevin It's it's great to to have you and to talk to you about about English here tonight. Yunita Pleasure is mine was so small. Jack Absolutely, yeah. Kevin Just to get started, we were talking a little bit before we got started and you were saying that. Kevin You're a teacher and. Kevin You teach a lot. Kevin Of different things, but with English. Yunita When did you? Kevin First, Start learning English when you were an elementary school student, or after or before. Yunita I was eight years Old Town. Yunita I was allowed to do school and at night time there is no English lesson. Kevin 8 so. Yunita At my school was my brother, my oldest brother, who brought this to me into my life. Kevin OK. Yunita So my oldest brother got these English lesson at his junior high school and he was like trying to read some short stacks. Kevin Oh, wow. Yunita And I was curious what is done because the language the way he speak is weird. Yunita It sounds like aliens language. Yunita And I asked him, what is that? Yunita And I decide it's English. Yunita What is English? Yunita English is international language and everybody loses. Yunita Will talk about it and if you want to communicate with people in Eustis. Yunita And at that time I. Yunita Was so curious about that really. Yunita And I was. Kevin So your your older brother and he's he was in a middle school, he said. Kevin So what he's maybe five years older than you about? Yunita Yes, yes. Yunita I I was eight and. Yunita He was 1515 imported. Kevin Oh, a bit more than so long. Yunita More here, more than. Kevin OK, OK, well, he's, he seems quite mature than to even at that young age to be teaching his young elementary sister. Yunita He actually doesn't care if I if I was curious or not. Yunita He just said this is English and that's it. Yunita And what is not English? Kevin This is go always, yeah. Yunita What do you think with and what is English? Yunita English is international language. Yunita That's it. Yunita And he just left me with this curiosity and I was like. Yunita 1 What is there? Please tell. Yunita Me and he doesn't. Yunita He didn't even bother me to explain what is in his own blood. Yunita Well, I always have lost world. Kevin And he OK, I I take it back, then he. Kevin Wasn't very helpful. Jack He never he didn't become your teacher. Jack He just he just planted the seed, kind of right, OK. Yunita No, no at all. Yunita I don't. Kevin So then how? Yunita Yeah, what is that? Kevin Did you actually start to? Yunita That's idiom. Kevin So yeah, how did you actually start to study then? Kevin Where does it just on your? Kevin Own 'cause you're curious. Yunita Yes, yes. Yunita I was actually so, so proud of myself. Kevin Well, how? Yunita And at that time, yeah, even even there is no English lesson at like at night time. Kevin Even in elementary school, that's impressive. Yunita And then a year later my my dad come back from. Yunita Saudi Arabia and he and he brought these little radio and the bottom, all the bottom is in English and I asked my dad what is that and what is that what he said. Kevin OK. Yunita And he explained to me sleep is sleeping you know like sleeping and then if on is something you on and then. Kevin Yeah, sure. Yunita Of something like that. Yunita Is it worth USD symbols or can you explain to me? Yunita Can you teach me? Yunita I can't teach you, but eventually when you are in the middle school you got that. Yunita And then OK, best. Kevin Ah, so then when you were in middle school, did you actually have proper English classes in school? Yunita No, not at all. Kevin Is that when they started? Kevin No, no then. Yunita I just. Yunita I just hate my English teacher because he was mean and mean here. Yunita Whenever there there was a student who can't pronounce some words, he was disputing us, really literally bleeding us with with some new small stick in our lack of this. Jack No, no, no. Yunita Try it again. Yunita Try it again. Yunita That was. Yunita 1 Yeah, well. Yunita It was odd at that time, but he just. Kevin Sometimes I want to hit my students, but. Kevin It's not very good education. Yunita 1 It's not, not. Jack We we we. Kevin A good way to do it. Jack Frown on that. Yunita Exactly, exactly. Jack That's a bad idea. Yunita No, no, never. Kevin So then, when, so I mean, you learned about English in elementary school, you became curious about it. Yunita How we do that? Kevin Middle school, you had a teacher who would literally beat you, but somehow you still remained interested in it. Yunita I don't have brought their teacher, yeah. Kevin He it's amazing that he did not turn you off. Kevin Of English? Kevin You were still curious so then? Yunita Yep, it because of growing pains. Kevin OK, so you're like, yeah, you just have to go through this? Yunita No, we. Yunita Hello baby or anything? Kevin And then what? Kevin About in high school is is that when you finally started to get like real classes or? Yunita No, I still don't have that. Jack Still no. Yunita Still don't have that and we have like 1 channel here in. Yunita Admission at that time. Yunita And easy. Yunita A movie called Little House in the Prairie and then growing pains and then run and then yeah, TV show all or in English. Jack OK, yeah. Jack Uh, TV shows. Yunita Fish and I don't know and I don't understand and we have like this subscription the bottom yeah subtitles and and and the way they solve problems they the way they communicate between brothers begins to sister is so nice and they are not fighting they just like. Yunita 1 We need subtitles. Yunita Can we discuss about this without fighting things on web? Yunita And those are very nice. Yunita Only if I can be done with my brother. Yunita My brother would teach me more about angles so. Yunita Instead of getting my brother teaching me, I'm watching that television, watching that show again and again, and I'm trying myself to like mimicry. Kevin Oh, nice. Yunita You know, like whenever they say how are you? Yunita And then my mouth seems like. Kevin Right, you would copy after. Kevin Right now, that's great to watch the show again and again. Kevin Actually, I remember when I first started teaching here in Korea. Kevin One of my students at the university his. Kevin English was quite good. Kevin And compared to many of the other students and I was quite surprised at so. Kevin I asked him, did you live in another country or travel or whatever? Kevin And he said no, no, no. Kevin I asked him how did he learn? Kevin And he learned from watching friends the same way. Kevin And the way he did it was it was very interesting. Kevin He said he watched friends three times. Kevin He watched it first with Korean subtitles. Kevin Basically, to learn the story, to learn the characters. Kevin Then he watched it with English subtitles, so he still has something to help him, but you know, not not Korean. Kevin And then he watched it again with nothing. Kevin Just just watching it because it's amazing. Kevin Even just watching TV again and again. Kevin I think that's the trick, watching it more than one time. Kevin If you just watch. Kevin A movie. Kevin One time you'll just watch this up. Kevin Titles and it's done. Kevin You won't learn anything from it. Jack One of the common themes from us doing this, these interviews, is that our students are our our interview. Jack Interviewees often say I they're really passionate about learning English, specifically because there are so many. Jack Language choices that you could have, you know chosen, but for whatever reason in English was the one that you just really latched onto early, and that has. Jack Become an, another person interviewed said. Jack That was it's the passion of my life is to to study and learn English. Jack So what? Jack What did? Jack What was? Jack It about English that was so you, you know, attractive to you, even even as at such a young age. Yunita I want to be a stewardess at that time. Yunita 'cause I I see that stewardess is so beautiful, tall and slim and everything about you. Kevin Ah, nice. Yunita This is so just awesome. Yunita And then I asked my dad. Yunita If I want to be stewardess and my dad said you have to speak English, that's a trigger, trigger when I was a. Jack Go fast. Yunita Kid so, but. Yunita I'm not a stewardess anymore. Jack Yeah, but I mean that's. Kevin Did you try and become a stewardess after you got out of high school? Kevin Did you continue to want to do that or at that? Yunita I apply. Kevin Point you did you drive? Yunita I applied the application here as I did, but my mom didn't allow me. Kevin Just try for it. Kevin Oh, I. Yunita No, no, no, no, no. Kevin Didn't do that. Yunita It's it's just too bad. Yunita But here, it's Indonesian culture and stuff. Yunita But when your parents say no, we say OK. Jack Yeah, but this. Kevin Still, you got the English from from learning it, and you're still using the English even though you weren't flying in in in airplanes. Jack And there's something about about being a stewardess and and traveling all over the world that is I can see is very attractive to young person who you know, wants to go out and see the. Yunita 1 We will. Jack World so yeah. Jack That that makes a lot of sense. Kevin My aunt actually is a flight attendant and I think we should interview her one of these days. Jack Yeah, yeah. Kevin 'cause it's kinda. Yunita Charles, that would be fine, you know, and actually you you got a season and podcasts about traveling in space. Jack No, yeah, she's been. Kevin Doing it for a long time. Kevin Yeah, coming out, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yunita That counts. Kevin By the time this episode will be released, it will have have come out. Yunita 1 No, no. Kevin Already for anyone to listen. Kevin But yeah, it was just what do we think about space travel? Kevin I wonder what the Space Flight attendants will be like in here for those life. Yunita Right, exactly, exactly. Yunita That was that was in my mind. Yunita How how would a stewardess looks like in this space here? Kevin No nice zero gravity flight attendants. Yunita Maybe, yeah. Yunita Oh yeah, you know, like they always are. Kevin That that, that is even more fun job. Yunita Flying things like. Yunita That and I'm sure that Members will got interested in that kind of podcast because. Yunita They they would like thinking out of their mind, like, Oh yeah, there will be awesome. Kevin So before we, uh, just just to move on a little bit, how do you practice, how do you study English these days? Yunita My phone number. Kevin What do you do to continue improving? Yunita Talking with us. Kevin Although then listen to our podcast of course. Yunita The same the same things. Yunita Now every time I listen to podcasts, listen to songs and everything which related to English, I try to translate it. Yunita I like to read. Yunita To meet. Yunita And then I like to read in Kindle because I don't have to bother myself to open the dictionary because I just like. Yunita There is a, uh, a word which I don't understand. Yunita I just click it and there is a dictionary about it and they explain it. Kevin So it's quite nice you didn't know. Yunita Yeah, and then. Yunita But somehow I didn't teach my students to have Kindle because they have to open dictionary and I did that too. Yunita And I still do do this mimicry from movie I really like. So like role-playing and then I, I I'd be a bad day and good girl and then we do water hard things like that. So that's the way I do and maybe people have. Kevin That's great. Yunita Uh, I think that I have this what nature or normal way of talking with people, maybe because of movie and maybe because of the way I listen to people when they're talking. Yunita When you guys talking on podcasts is seem so normal. Yunita It seems like you were just two friends. Yunita And having tea together before Chandra. Kevin Well, we are, we are pretty. Jack Much and what our podcast is. Yunita Yeah, so that's why I told John that I liked your podcast. Jack We did, yeah. Yunita It seems like you you guys are talking in real life, in the porch, sitting together, having tea and cookies, things like that. Jack Right. Yunita So I described that. Yunita It's enjoyable. Relax. Kevin Nice, yeah. Kevin Mimicry really can be helpful, and it's it's something that you can do by yourself. Kevin That's one difficult thing about learning a language is when you're alone. Kevin It's often hard to practice, but even just copying it is a way to help you learn how to be natural, and it puts those. Kevin Language patterns into your. Kevin And then when you finally do speak with someone, those patterns are already in there and then they come out much more naturally, hopefully after after using. Yunita Find out. Yunita Yeah, exactly. Jack Them and it sounds, you know well. Yunita I really like your broadcast as we leave the. Jack Thank you so much. Yunita Sounds horrible. Yunita Some normal sounds natural. Yunita You're not making this. Yunita Up you start talking. Yunita That's all. Kevin Yeah, we we have tried making some scripts and it it we're not very good actors. Kevin We're better at just being friends than the nesting. Jack Improvising, yeah, a lot of people are self-conscious when they when it comes to learning the. Jack Language they they. Jack Be like I don't want to try because I might make a mistake or I don't want to watch and repeat while I watch this television show. Jack 'cause what if somebody sees me? Jack I'll be embarrassed, you know? Jack What's your message to people out there? Jack Who think like that? Jack You know, because I think there are a lot of people to feel that way. Kevin You are shy? Thanks. Jack Like, oh, I don't want to be embarrassed. Jack I don't. Jack Want to say the wrong thing? Jack But then they get stuck, you know, they can't move up anymore, they can't improve. Jack So what? Jack What's your, what's your, what would be your advice to to people who are stuck in that mindset? Yunita I I would rather to tell about my experience if I give them advice. Yunita Sounds like I'm older. Jack Yeah, sure. Yunita So, Oh yeah. Jack Well, just to tell. Jack Them what you do you know, yeah, yeah. Yunita All my experience I. Yunita Well, whenever I make mistakes in grammar, in the way of pronunciation, in the way I ride or whatever, whatever, what kind of mistake is that I I just feel. Yunita I feel that I have the self-confidence because people would correct my my pronunciation the way I the way I write everything. Yunita Everyone will correct me and that is fine because if I make mistake and then people correct me, I will remember that the rest of my life. Yunita Because if I learn from mistake. Yunita I will just recall that over and over again, but if I am not making mistake, I didn't know which one is the error one. Yunita So even I'm talking right now, people might say that you are fluent in talking, but I feel that I make mistake and you guys might know it. Kevin That's true. Yunita I'm sure, but I I still have this confidence. Yunita With this I will. Kevin Yeah, that's a really good point. Kevin Like, you can't, no, you can't fix your mistakes. Kevin Unless you know what they. Kevin Are so making mistakes as important? Jack And even here, as native speakers were we start, I start sentences, and I stop. Jack And then I I restated again. Jack And I I make a lot of like if you wrote down everything I said on paper, it would, it wouldn't. Jack It would look like there were a. Jack Lot of mistakes. Jack Language is messy. Jack I think some people think it's clean, right? Jack They just like, oh, it's so clean and perfect. Jack No, no, no, it's it's always going to be met. Jack See, and I think if people accept that, then maybe they feel a little less shy, a little less embarrassed to do, you know, just try. Kevin Yeah, everyone makes mistakes. Jack Yeah, you you seem like a person who's not afraid to just try. Jack Like, I'm going to go talk to this person. Jack I'm going to do the best I can, and if I make some mistakes, who cares? Jack Like names. Yunita And I will remember that dress on my lap. Yunita I make mistake and the right one is like this. Yunita I will remember that. Yunita That that's the difference when you are good already good at the 1st place and you will know that you are actually making something wrong. Kevin Yeah, that's that's a great lesson, I think, for everyone to learn and just just to wrap up here at the end just because of of time. Kevin I'd love to talk to you longer. Kevin If you could give our listeners and everyone else out there one thing that you think worked best for you, since you said you don't want to give advice, so this doesn't have to be advice but for you. Kevin What do you think? Kevin Was the single one. Kevin Best thing that you do or did that that helped you in English. Kevin Maybe it was something we already talked about or? Kevin Something new, just what do? Kevin You think was the best for you? Yunita Languages habit, so make it your habit. Kevin And how did you make it a habit? Yunita Talking, enlisting, kingless, riding Inglis. Yunita Do everything about English. Yunita If you have like, you know if you have like 5 minutes in your feet. Kevin Just a little bit every day, all the time. Yunita Warm start writing in English, even it's messy. Yunita Start talking with yourself involved, Neil. Yunita Even you don't know whether it is right or wrong. Kevin Right. Yunita 1 Guys, thank you. Yunita Dismember views about habit. Kevin Flash drive. Yunita That's it. Kevin Yeah, I've I've heard similar advice before, so I think that's that sounds like it. Kevin It worked very well for you, and I think it can work well for other. Yunita Come on. Kevin People. So thanks a lot. Kevin You know, this is amazing to hear about your English journey and how you got from your brother just not telling you anything to to where you are today. Jack Yeah. Thank you. Yunita Even though I tell him that I got, uh, this broadcast schedule with a friend of mine and. Kevin So it's because of you. Kevin Thank you. Kevin Thank you. Jack Brother, I'm so glad it it wasn't a French book or you wouldn't be here right now with us, right? Yunita And then and then. Yunita I'm getting set up and then what should I do? Yunita I don't have anything to do with that, right? Yunita So we got. Yunita That's it, that's good. Kevin Awesome, nice. Kevin Well that's great. Kevin You need again, thanks very much for coming. Yunita Sure, sure, sure. 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In this episode, Kevin and Jack talk about space and if they think it would be possible to travel there in the future; and if so if they'd want to go. How about you? Share your answers to the discussion questions in our WhatsApp group chat! https://forms.gle/zKCS8y1t9jwv2KTn7With listener mail from episode 14: https://atozenglishpodcast.com/technology-from-the-80s-and-90s/Website: https://atozenglishpodcast.com/do-you-want-to-travel-to-space/If you could take a minute and complete a short survey about the podcast, we would be very appreciative. You can find the survey here: https://forms.gle/HHNnnqU6U8W3DodK8We would love to hear your feedback and suggestions for future episodes.Intro/Outro Music by Eaters: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/eaters/the-astronomers-office/agents-in-coffee-shops/ Discussion Questions: 1.      Are you interested in space, planets, and stars? 2.      Would you travel to space is you had the opportunity? 3.      Do you think people will live on the Moon or on Mars? AtoZ_quickchat018_SpaceTravel.mp3  Full Transcript:  Jack:  You are listening to the A-Z English podcast.   Kevin:  Welcome to an A-Z English quick chat we're going to surprise each other with.   Kevin:  The topic for.   Kevin:  The day and just see where the conversation goes.   Kevin:  Check our website for a study guide with vocabulary notes, discussion questions and more, as well as links to our WhatsApp, Facebook or other social media groups where you can join in the conversation.   Kevin:  And today, Jack, I've been seeing a lot of news about the James Webb Space Telescope these days.   Kevin:  And I'm a big space nerd.   Kevin:  I love space stuff.   Kevin:  We also have talked about travel a bit in the past.   Kevin:  I was thinking what do you think in the future?   Kevin:  Are we going to be able to travel the space?   Kevin:  Do you want to travel to space?   Kevin:  Do you want to be a space tourist?   Jack:  I think not only.   Jack:  Is it the future?   Jack:  But I think it's the present.   Jack:  They already have some space tourism, I believe, for very, very rich people, so.   Kevin:  Yeah, yeah, right now, I guess.   Kevin:  It is kind of.   Kevin:  Possible there are, yeah, some.   Kevin:  Some super rich people have gone up into space.   Jack:  Like Justin Timberlake I think has been up there.   Kevin:  Most of them, I think.   Kevin  Did he?   Jack:  I think so, yeah.   Kevin:  I know.   Kevin:  I think Bill Gates was thing about it.   Kevin:  I know.   Kevin:  There was some like.   Kevin:  Japanese guy that's gone up there, actually.   Kevin:  Even in the past like.   Kevin:  10 years, even before the more recent like SpaceX and Virgin Blue or whatever, they're those companies names are there. There were some crazy rich people that were paying to go up on Russian space crafts.   Jack:  Yeah, that's right.   Jack:  That's right.   Jack:  And that's how our astronauts get there to the space station.   Kevin:  Yeah, or that's how they did.   Kevin:  I think that's going to be changing.   Kevin:  So what do you think?   Jack:  Yeah, yeah, yeah.   Kevin:  So yeah, it is possible for the extreme.   Kevin:  The Ridge right now.   Jack:  Yeah, it's 1,000,000 bucks a pop like one time.   Kevin:  I think it's more than that.   Jack:  Is it more than a million?   Kevin:  I think it's.   Jack:  OK.   Kevin:  I think it's.   Kevin:  Quite a bit more than a million still actually become.   Kevin:  Do you think it'll be possible in?   Kevin:  In our lifetimes, we're starting to get old, starting to get.   Kevin:  The pains in the.   Kevin:  Back do you think we'll be?   Jack:  Yeah, yeah, I think so.   Kevin:  Able to go up.   Jack:  Think in the next 10 or 20 years where.   Jack:  They're going to, we're going to see like a.   Kevin:  That's pretty quick.   Jack:  Yeah, I believe there will be a wait.   Jack:  It's still going to be expensive, you know, 10 or 20 years from now, but I think they'll come up with some sort of.   Jack:  You know, some kind of aircraft that will get right to the edge of the atmosphere where the where our atmosphere in space.   Jack:  So as you look out the window, you will see just darkness and stars and that sort of stuff.   Kevin:  Right.   Jack:  And so it's not, it's not in deep space or it's not even like close to the moon, but it'll be outside.   Speaker 1  Right, right, right.   Jack:  Our, I guess our atmosphere or Earth's atmosphere. And so yeah, so I believe that they'll be able to come up with some.   Kevin:  Right.   Jack:  I mean they have crafts like that, but I believe they'll build some that will be large enough then, you know kind of like you know, like a big airplane, you know, like it, but it will go higher and.   Jack:  And yeah, get people up there so they can see space and say that they were in space.   Kevin:  Yeah, I I think it'll be possible as well.   Kevin:  I mean, just looking at technology and how.   Kevin:  Quickly it's changed and how much the prices change and even airplanes. Airplanes were only 100 years ago when the first airplane flew. Right.   Kevin:  And then, you know, 50 years later we were on the moon, and 50 years later, you know, anyone can fly in an airplane around the world pretty easily.   Kevin:  It's cheaper and cheaper and cheaper.   Kevin:  So yeah, 10 or 20 years?   Kevin:  I don't know, maybe, maybe.   Kevin:  But I'd say in our lifetime it should be cheap enough and.   Kevin:  And possible to go.   Kevin:  So would you go?   Kevin:  Would you?   Kevin:  Do you want to go if you could?   Jack:  Uhm, no, I'm not really interested.   Jack:  I'm saying that I went to.   Jack:  If I went to space, I want to go to, I want to stay at.   Jack:  A hotel on the.   Jack:  Moon that would be that would be something spectacular.   Kevin:  Right.   Jack:  You know, going to see space.   Jack:  I think you can, you know, like the new telescope they were talking about, the Webb telescope, the James Webb Telescope.   Kevin:  At James Webb, yeah.   Kevin:  Uhm, where's?   Jack:  Where is that exactly?   Kevin:  That's at the LaGrange point.   Kevin:  It's out past the moon.   Jack:  Oh, OK, OK, this one is.   Kevin:  It's quite far.   Jack:  This is a like a satellite type.   Jack:  Of thing or is it?   Jack:  Yeah, it's yeah.   Kevin:  Yeah, it it's quite far it's out.   Kevin:  Those basically the Earth and sun interact and there's kind.   Kevin:  Of like a gravity did.   Kevin:  Kind of between them and after the earth.   Kevin:  It's physics.   Kevin:  It's hard to explain, but it's very cool and that's where the James Webb is.   Kevin:  It's at a place so it can, it's far enough from the earth and from the sun, so it's just, it's out in space.   Kevin:  It's past the moon.   Kevin:  It's pretty far away.   Jack:  And so it's just a clear, it's the clearest view we've ever had of the Galaxy essentially, or multiple galaxies I suppose.   Jack:  Yeah, I mean.   Kevin:  At the beginning of time actually is what the James Webb is looking for.   Kevin:  It's pretty amazing.   Jack:  And yeah, it seems like a yeah, I mean, it would be interesting to learn.   Jack:  It is the planet infinite, you know.   Jack:  Is space infinite?   Jack:  Does it go on forever and ever?   Jack:  These are crazy questions.   Jack:  Anyway, I'll get back to our.   Jack:  The theme up to.   Kevin:  I love space, if we could talk about it.   Jack:  That's yeah.   Kevin:  But let's stick with travel.   Jack:  So space travel.   Jack:  So yeah.   Jack:  Would I go up and to just look at space?   Jack:  Probably not.   Jack:  But if I had the opportunity to and I could afford to stay on the moon, that would be incredible.   Jack:  So I hope in my lifetime.   Jack:  That there's a moon.   Jack:  Base that would be, you know, like, that's the thing. And then by the end of my life or like 100 years after that, I would like to, I would expect to see a space elevator. Are you you familiar with the space elevator?   Kevin:  Ah, OK.   Kevin:  Yeah, with the concept is those are really interesting actually as well.   Kevin:  I'll come back to that in a second.   Kevin:  I think as well I kind of agree with you on the whole space tourism thing.   Kevin:  Like I love space travel.   Kevin:  I love Space physics news like I read all about it.   Kevin:  I it's really fun for me and I would love to go to space.   Kevin:  But at the same time, you're right, just going up.   Kevin:  So look, and then coming back down I I'd be interested, but if it's crazy expensive, I wouldn't.   Kevin:  Really do it.   Kevin:  But to go up and actually stay in space for like a night or something.   Kevin:  I think that would be more interesting and pretty cool space elevators to get back to it.   Kevin:  That's a cool concept.   Kevin:  And if that's possible, then.   Kevin:  It'll be very cheap to go.   Kevin:  Into space in in the future.   Jack:  Yeah they're they would be able to yeah there be there be no more rockets to get you know package.   Jack:  And people outside of the of our gravity field, essentially. So Yep, you'll be able to just put it on the elevator and 24 hours later it reaches the satellite.   Jack:  I guess the other end of the elevator the high point dip the top floor and then you're just floating in space at that point.   Jack:  So let's just be like, yeah, yeah.   Kevin:  That would pretty cool.   Kevin:  Yeah, those are still tough to make the main reason that, I mean there's many difficult things about making a space elevator, but the current technology that's holding us back.   Kevin:  They don't have a material strong enough to make the rope effectively.   Jack:  Right.   Jack:  They tried like.   Jack:  Carbon, nano particles and all kinds of.   Kevin:  There's a diamond carbon nano.   Kevin:  Amazing platinum.   Kevin:  Yeah, things.   Kevin:  And it's just it's not possible quite yet.   Jack:  And you're also, you've never been on an elevator that goes up 128,000 floors or whatever, you know. So that's essentially what we would need, you know? Yeah, it would just be.   Kevin:  Right, it would take a long time.    It would take.   Kevin:  A very long time, yeah.   Jack:  Yeah, yeah, yeah.   Jack:  You know, I really find it interesting.   Jack:  I love space and stuff, but I like watching these.   Jack:  You know, I follow the news when rich people like Jeff Bezos took William Shatner up into space in a couple months ago, and that was really interesting because William Shatner.   Kevin:  No, right.   Jack:  Is a famous American actor a famous for Star Trek and so.   Kevin:  Yeah, I know.   Kevin:  He's like the space captain.   Jack:  Yeah, he's kind of an icon.   Jack:  Of like space exploration fictional, but a fictional character not.   Kevin:  Right.   Jack:  It's William Shatner, but the character he played Kirk, right?   Jack:  Yeah, so it's, you know, it's really cool that, you know, rich people get to do it right now, but everything rich people did 100 years ago.   Jack:  Normal people get to do, you know, 50 or 100 years later, so I can't imagine probably at the end of my life people will be going to space more regularly so.   Jack:  So maybe it won't be that impressive at a party if somebody says, oh, what did you do last weekend?   Jack:  Oh, I went to space.   Jack:  You know, and then Jan, you know, again.   Jack:  Yeah, maybe it'll be impressive.   Speaker 1  Right.   Jack:  To go to the.   Jack:  Moon or I'm hoping in my lifetime, maybe even people go to Mars.   Jack:  That would be really cool.   Jack:  That's something that I would love, yeah.   Kevin:  Yeah, love I would love to, even if I don't get to go.   Kevin:  Just to know that the astronauts are getting there would be would be pretty amazing.   Kevin:  Thing so, but yeah, hopefully space travel someday will be something that that we can get to.   Kevin:  And what about?   Kevin:  What about everybody out?   Kevin:  There, listening, you know, maybe you've traveled around in your country or maybe to other countries.   Kevin:  If you could go to space, would you?   Kevin:  Do you think it's going to be possible in your in your lifetime?   Kevin:  I know we have some much younger.   Kevin:  Listeners as well, and so their lifetimes will be a bit longer.   Kevin:  So what do you think before?   Kevin:  Before they get old, before their grandparents?   Kevin:  Do you think that you'll be able to travel to space?   Kevin:  And if so, do you want to go?   Kevin:  And if you do, what do you want to do up there?   Kevin:  Do you want to look around, go to Mars, or even something more crazy?   Kevin:  Something more science fiction.   Kevin:  What do you think would be cool?   Kevin:  So join us in our WhatsApp group and.   Kevin:  Tell us what you think.   Kevin:  So thanks everybody for joining.   Kevin:  Remember, on our web page, you can join our WhatsApp group or social media to join the discussion, as well as if you can leave us a comment and a review on Apple Podcasts that would really help us to get to other people.   Kevin:  So thanks for listening and see you in space.   Kevin:  Bye bye. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-fluent-mind-esl-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy