In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Xochitl and Jack discuss what kinds of music Americans like to listen to.Podcast Website:https://atozenglishpodcast.com/culture-corner-what-kind-of-music-do-americans-listen-to/Social Media:WeChat: atozenglishpodcastFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/671098974684413/Tik Tok:@atozenglish1Instagram:@atozenglish22Twitter:@atozenglish22A to Z Facebook Page:https://www.facebook.com/theatozenglishpodcastCheck out our You Tube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCds7JR-5dbarBfas4Ve4h8ADonate to the show: https://app.redcircle.com/shows/9472af5c-8580-45e1-b0dd-ff211db08a90/donationsRobin and Jack started a new You Tube channel called English Word Master. You can check it out here:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2aXaXaMY4P2VhVaEre5w7ABecome a member of Podchaser and leave a positive review!https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-a-to-z-english-podcast-4779670Join our Whatsapp group: https://forms.gle/zKCS8y1t9jwv2KTn7Intro/Outro Music: Daybird by Broke for Freehttps://freemusicarchive.org/music/Broke_For_Free/Directionless_EP/Broke_For_Free_-_Directionless_EP_-_03_Day_Bird/https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcodeSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-a-to-z-english-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Jack explains why it's not really possible to learn English alone. Interacting with other English speakers should be your goal and is a necessary part of the process of learning English.Transcript:00:00:01JackWelcome to the agency English podcast. My name is Jack, and today I have another solo episode, and today's episode is a topic talk episode.00:00:12JackThe question we're trying to answer today is.00:00:16JackHow can I learn English alone?00:00:20JackHow can I learn English alone?00:00:25JackAnd my answer to that.00:00:28JackI'm going. I'm going to answer that with a an English expression or an English saying. It's very. It's a very old expression.00:00:38JackAnd it goes like this. We say no man is an island, OK? No man is an island.00:00:49JackAnd I think what that means is that we are all connected or.00:00:57JackNo one person can completely disconnect from.00:01:03JackOther everyone else, you're always connected to some person through your work, through your family, through your friendships, whatever it may be, we're we're all connected.00:01:19JackWe can't. We cannot help it.00:01:23JackIt's just one of and I think that's why you know, we use those expressions on social media, you know, making connections on Facebook.00:01:33JackHow many can you know how many friends do you have? Oh, I connected with this person on Facebook and then and then that person connects to another person who connects to another person that connects to maybe somebody else that you know and.00:01:47JackAnd it's all about connections, right? So when students ask me, you know, Jack, how can I learn English alone?00:01:59JackMy answer is you can't.00:02:02JackUM, you can't learn English alone.00:02:08JackAny better than you could learn how to be a friend.00:02:14JackWithout talking to any people you know, like reading a book called how to be a friend.00:02:21JackChapter one.00:02:23JackBe kind.00:02:26JackChapter 2. Listen to your friend.00:02:29JackYou know chapter 3. I mean, it's ridiculous, right? Trying to, you know, learn to learn how to be a friend. I I think learn to how to learn, you know, learning English alone is almost as ridiculous as.00:02:50JackLearning how to be a friend alone. I mean you learn how to be a good friend by.00:02:57JackBy befriending people and having relationships and experiencing those things.00:03:06JackAnd the exact same thing.00:03:08JackCan be said about English. It's about.00:03:13JackInteracting and using the language with other people.00:03:17JackCreatively trying to communicate, trying to be understood. Now, obviously there are times where you could.00:03:27JackStudy certain things by yourself, like you could learn some new vocabulary, or you could do some reading by yourself. You could listen to a podcast by yourself. You could do some grammar exercises, but if you don't, if if you don't take all of that, work those.00:03:47JackThat homework type stuff, you know, grammar exercises, listening to the podcast, and you don't apply that to some kind of actual real life speaking situation where you're talking with other people. It doesn't have to be native speakers, it could be other language learners if you don't.00:04:07JackTake that next step and actually use the language creatively. Then all the other stuff is pointless. There's.00:04:16JackNo, there's no point in.00:04:19JackPracticing grammar if you're not going to go out and use the language and that's, you know, the hardest part, and we're making that easier here at the edges. The English podcast, because we are associated very closely with something called World English.00:04:40JackAnd world English is a a community that I that I started with a YouTuber, Robin Shaw.00:04:51JackAnd we started this, this community, so that students can join the WhatsApp group. They can come in there and they can talk to each other. Now, talking to each other doesn't necessarily mean you're you're talking using your voice. You could be typing and communicating that way.00:05:09JackThrough text messages or voice notes. But we also have Google meets classes and you're allowed to go to the Google meets class classes for several weeks for.00:05:21JackFree and we have Google meets classes almost every day, so at 1:00 PM GMT.00:05:32JackThat's Greenwich mean time.00:05:35JackUM, we have a free class. Uh, Sunday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday every day, every week. The only days we don't do our Fridays.00:05:49JackAnd then we also have Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We have another class that is that that takes place at. That would be 1:00 AM.00:06:05JackGreenwich mean time.00:06:07JackOK. And so we've got these two you know, so that's 44 classes that you can attend and what we do in these classes is students get together in Google meets on Google meets. So you have to have a Google account, you have and you need a smartphone.00:06:28JackAnd then in the Google meets you get together and you join other other members of our of our community in breakout rooms and you discuss a topic.00:06:40JackAnd sometimes the native English speakers are in there. Sometimes I'm in there.00:06:46JackSometimes our teachers are in there and you're, you know, talking and having a conversation. And and this is the final piece of the puzzle that's the most important part that so many people.00:07:00JackShip. They OK? I'm gonna study for my IELTS test. I'm gonna study for my Duolingo Duolingo test and I'm just gonna memorize this grammar. I'm going to memorize this vocabulary. I'm going to but. But when it comes to speaking, I'm just going to say, oh, it's too hard. I.00:07:19JackSo how can I?00:07:20JackFind anyone to talk to. So I'm just not going to do that part. Well, that's the whole point of the of all of the work that you're doing is to speak with other people. That's it.00:07:31JackLike I said, no man is an island. You cannot be a language learner.00:07:38JackAnd be an island, you need to be connected to other people. You need to use the language creatively in a social setting. That's it. It has to be that way. And if you're not doing that, then you're not really learning English.00:07:56JackYou might be studying some of the rules you might be picking things up, but you're never going to actually be able to communicate and function as a bilingual speaker until you actually put yourself in social situations where you're using.00:08:17JackEnglish as the target language to communicate ideas.00:08:23JackAnd listen to other people's ideas and share opinions and go back and forth and do that. You know that tennis match, which is a conversation.00:08:33JackThat's it. That's what. That's the ultimate.00:08:37JackYou know that's the ultimate goal, or that's what your ultimate goal should be, not some score on an exam. Not getting some kind of grammar questions correct.00:08:52JackIt's a totally different ball game when you're actually using the language to communicate with other people. So.00:09:00JackI gave you if you're interested in joining our WhatsApp group and want to learn more about our Google meets classes, you can. You can contact me. You can leave a comment on our our website A-Z englishpodcast.com. You can send me an e-mail A-Z englishpodcast@gmail.com.00:09:21JackYou can join our WhatsApp group. I'll put the link right in there and that'll take you right to our Google meets classes.00:09:30JackOr if you are using WeChat, you can communicate with me that way and I will point you towards the Facebook link for the Google meets class. So you still need a Google account if you want to participate in our online classes because we're using.00:09:50JackGoogle meets to have these classes, but like I said, you can do it free for several weeks and see if you like it. If it's, if it's good for you. If the time works, then you may want to think about joining, joining costs $10 a month. That's it.00:10:07Jack$10 a month and you get almost 5050 classes a a month. So you do the math. It's it's such a good deal.00:10:18JackUh, it's amazing. So alright guys, with that said, I will see you next time. So thanks everybody.00:10:27JackBye bye.Podcast Website:https://atozenglishpodcast.com/topic-talk-how-can-i-learn-english-by-myself-spoiler-you-cant/Social Media:WeChat: atozenglishpodcastFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/671098974684413/Tik Tok:@atozenglish1Instagram:@atozenglish22Twitter:@atozenglish22A to Z Facebook Page:https://www.facebook.com/theatozenglishpodcastCheck out our You Tube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCds7JR-5dbarBfas4Ve4h8ADonate to the show: https://app.redcircle.com/shows/9472af5c-8580-45e1-b0dd-ff211db08a90/donationsRobin and Jack started a new You Tube channel called English Word Master. You can check it out here:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2aXaXaMY4P2VhVaEre5w7ABecome a member of Podchaser and leave a positive review!https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-a-to-z-english-podcast-4779670Join our Whatsapp group: https://forms.gle/zKCS8y1t9jwv2KTn7Intro/Outro Music: Daybird by Broke for Freehttps://freemusicarchive.org/music/Broke_For_Free/Directionless_EP/Broke_For_Free_-_Directionless_EP_-_03_Day_Bird/https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcodeSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-a-to-z-english-podcast/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Jack gives students three strategies they can use when they get stuck.Transcript:00:00:01JackWelcome to the A to Z English podcast. My name is Jack and today I have a solo episode and today I'm doing a topic talk episode and the topic is what to do.00:00:17JackWhen you are stuck. OK, So what to do when you are stuck and what I mean by that is.00:00:27JackWhenever you try to learn something new, like if you're trying to learn the guitar, or if you're trying to learn a new language like learning English.00:00:37JackThere's gonna be times where you get stuck. OK, we call this a plateau and a plateau is like a a flat surface, right. You go up, up, up and then you hit a a kind of ceiling.00:00:54JackAnd then you hit a plateau and you're you. You don't improve for a while. You get stuck, OK?00:01:02JackAnd I've got 3.00:01:04JackStrategies that you can employ when you when this happens to you during your English language journey.00:01:13JackAnd the very the first one is the first strategy that I would use if I were you and you're you're studying English, you're learning English, and then you just feel like you're stuck. You're not getting better.00:01:28JackWalk away. Take a break. OK? Just take a vacation.00:01:33JackBecause sometimes you're just your your brain is overstimulated, right? You've just been studying, studying, studying and and going to online classes and and everything has just been your whole world is just English, English, English and you're so.00:01:52JackYou're so focused on it.00:01:56JackThat you're.00:01:57JackThat you're you're overwhelmed. OK, you're you're overwhelmed and over stimulated. And that's actually not necessarily a good state to to be in if you wanna. If you want to improve.00:02:10JackIn something when you want to improve in something, you want to be in a flow state, right? A flow state is where you're having fun. It's challenging, but it's not too easy and not too difficult. And when you're just overloaded with too many things and you're putting too much focus and too much pressure on yourself.00:02:29JackThen you you're actually not in a flow state, you're not in a good place to improve. So what I would do in that situation is just take a break, maybe two days, maybe 3 days, maybe a week, and just walk away from the whole thing and just be like I'm done, OK?00:02:48JackI used to be an athlete when I was in high school and college. I was a basketball player.00:02:54JackAnd The funny thing is, we would practice every day, but during the vacation, the Christmas vacation, we would have about five or seven days off, which is that's a long vacation for in the middle of a season, right? If you're if you're supposed to be playing, you know, every weekend, you don't really, you don't usually take.00:03:14JackFive days off in a row.00:03:16JackThough, but The funny thing is, is that what I noticed is that after 5 days of not playing basketball, when I came back I was able to jump much higher than I was before because my legs were not tired anymore. My legs had had had basically rested.00:03:37JackAnd they've got they got stronger, or at least they were more rested. So when I came back, I actually found that when I was jumping, I was able to dunk the basketball much easier than I was when I was playing every day.00:03:54JackAnd so that's kind of an interesting. An interesting thing is that when sometimes when you walk away, you get a little bit stronger because you start you, you start resting, your brain is resting, your mind is resting. And then when you come back, you're much sharper. So your English might actually be better. So sometimes taking a break and just walking away from something.00:04:17JackIs not a bad thing that can be a good thing.00:04:21Jack#2 change up your strategies, so if you're focusing a lot on on conversation, do go to listening.00:04:31JackOK, just stop doing conversation and do something else. Do something completely different.00:04:37JackI also play the guitar as a hobby and my friend told me the strategy, he said. Sometimes when you're and in the guitar, people get stuck all the time, you know you get, you get to a certain point, a skill level, and then you just can't seem to break through to the next level.00:04:57JackMy friend recommended to me, he said.00:04:59JackSometimes when I get stuck, what I'll do is I will.00:05:05JackPut my guitar in a different tuning. So what that means changing the strings the sounds of the strings into like a different tuning and just play. You know, using a different tuning. It's like a whole other.00:05:19JackBasically like a whole different vocabulary of of of, of guitar music and.00:05:28JackAnd he says by do by by playing in a different tuning by tuning my guitar differently, I can just. I don't have to worry about chords and things like that because I can just.00:05:40JackTune it into like an open chord, so where you just strum the guitar and it sounds.00:05:44JackGood. And and then you can just play around with different you know picking styles and and things like that. And so basically he just he'll change the whole the whole situation, the whole you know the whole.00:06:01JackBasically, uh, structure of the of the standard guitar playing to something.00:06:08JackDifferent and then play around there for like a week and then come back to the standard tuning and then he'll find that he's able to kind of improve a little bit because he had that break and now he comes back with a fresh mind, fresh eyes and a different set of skills. So if you're focusing on speaking and you feel like ohh.00:06:30JackJust my speaking is not getting any better. Don't do more speaking. Do something different. Go work on. You know pronunciation practice or go listen to some podcasts and improve your vocabulary. Read.00:06:44JackSomething do something different than speaking.00:06:50JackOK. And or do something different than listening. You're like, oh, my, listening is not very good. OK, well, then, why don't you go and focus on something else, like reading or writing? So change it up whenever you get stuck.00:07:03JackMake a change and.00:07:06JackThe last piece of advice that I have is sometimes when you get stuck, it's because either the material that you're studying is too difficult or it's too easy, OK.00:07:26JackAnd so sometimes we have to be careful about what we're, you know, like what we're, what we're using to to learn English, right. If if what you're doing is the same thing every day.00:07:41JackYou're just doing like you know. For example, if you were to learn English and every day you just practice ABC's, you know, ABCDEFGHAK, I'm gonna pee if you just do that every day. Of course your English is never going to get any better because learning the alphabet is. It's too easy. You're not challenging.00:08:01JackYourself. OK, but if you go and watch a YouTube Ted talk.00:08:10JackI don't know physics or something like that.00:08:15JackThat's gonna be way too hard. The vocabulary in there is gonna be.00:08:19JackIncomprehensible to you and so you're not going to get any. You're not going to gain anything from watching that very difficult Ted talk. And you're not going to gain anything from practicing the ABC's either. OK. So as I mentioned earlier, what you want to do is put yourself in a flow state.00:08:40JackWhere you're giving yourself material that is just slightly challenging.00:08:47JackOK, a little bit beyond your level, not too challenging, just so that it's, it's fun and challenging and not too easy and it should also be enjoyable. And if you're if you're having a good time.00:09:00JackYou're not bored. You're being challenged. Not too, not too hard, but not too little. Not not too much, not too little. Just the right Goldilocks. We call it the Goldilocks space, the perfect, the perfect amount of difficulty.00:09:18JackThen in that case you're going to.00:09:23JackShow improvement. OK, so it's it's about getting into a flow state. OK, so number one, you can walk away from the.00:09:30JackThing, just take a vacation. OK? Five days. I'm done. I don't want to even look at English for five days, and that's totally acceptable. #2, change up your strategy. Just work on something.00:09:42JackIt's just a different one of the different skills. If you're doing a lot of reading, do listening. If you're doing listening, do do speaking. If you're doing speaking, do writing, OK, just switch it up. And if that doesn't?00:09:55JackHelp #3 make sure that you're in a flow state. OK? You're being challenged by material that you think is interesting and fun. It's not too challenging, and it's not too easy, and so you could run those three tests and you know, or you could try all three strategies and see which one works.00:10:15JackBest for you, but there you go. There's some my advice when you get stuck.00:10:21JackOn your English journey and you're not improving and you're not moving up, you can try one of those three things and see if that helps. And let me know, give me some feedback about this. This is did my advice actually help you? Send me an e-mail abcenglishpodcast.com leave a comment on our website.00:10:42JackA-Z englishpodcast.com. Sorry, our e-mail is A-Z English podcast at Gmail.00:10:47JackDot com our website is A-Z englishpodcast.com. You can also join our WhatsApp group or WeChat Group and you can leave a comment in there and I will get.00:10:59JackBack to you.00:11:00JackAnd with that said, I will see you next time. Thanks everybody.00:11:05JackBye bye bye.Podcast Website:https://atozenglishpodcast.com/topic-talk-what-should-i-do-when-i-get-stuck/Social Media:WeChat: atozenglishpodcastFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/671098974684413/Tik Tok:@atozenglish1Instagram:@atozenglish22Twitter:@atozenglish22A to Z Facebook Page:https://www.facebook.com/theatozenglishpodcastCheck out our You Tube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCds7JR-5dbarBfas4Ve4h8ADonate to the show: https://app.redcircle.com/shows/9472af5c-8580-45e1-b0dd-ff211db08a90/donationsRobin and Jack started a new You Tube channel called English Word Master. 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In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Xochitl and Jack play another game where they try to test their knowledge about each other.Transcript:00:00:01JackWelcome to the A to Z English podcast. My name is Jack and I'm here with my co-host social. And today we're going to do one more topic talk game edition. How well do you know your podcasting partner?00:00:20JackAnd #1 the first question, social is what kind of music?00:00:28JackDo I enjoy the most?00:00:36XochitlSorry. What was that, Jack? I didn't hear you.00:00:38JackWhat kind of music do I enjoy the most? What do you think? What's what music? What kind of music? What genre do you think that I enjoy the most?00:00:46발표자Right.00:00:49XochitlSome variation of rock.00:00:52JackOK, OK. I'll give it to you. I'll give it.00:00:53JackTo you, I'll give it to you. I grew up in the 90s, so grunt.00:00:58JackYeah, that's my, you know, Nirvana program.00:01:01XochitlYeah, I was going to think that's what I was going to say like so. But I just wanted to.00:01:05XochitlBe more broad just in.00:01:06XochitlCase because.00:01:07JackYeah, you covered your bases. Yeah, cause I love Pink Floyd. I love Led Zeppelin. I love The Rolling Stones. I love The Beatles. I mean, it's it's not just that, but, but my the the music that defines my my high school years, you know, and college years is definitely.00:01:26Jack90s grunge rock Stone Temple Pilots Alice In Chains Earl Jam, Nirvana.00:01:35JackThe Pixies. I those. That's the music that I loved the most. Now I'm going to try to answer this for you.00:01:45JackOK.00:01:47JackUM.00:01:49JackLatin pop like Shakira.00:01:54XochitlYeah, uh, well, no.00:02:00XochitlIt's it's not really Latin pop. It's uh.00:02:05XochitlBoletos, which is like traditional Latin American music genre.00:02:11JackOK, OK.00:02:13JackSo it's not.00:02:14XochitlMore like 1950s Latin American music.00:02:18JackOhh, OK, OK.00:02:21JackUM.00:02:23JackOK. OK. So so that's your, that's your favorite genre then? So that's more, you're more in the traditional type of Latin music than the more modern kind of version of it or whatever like the, OK.00:02:40JackOh, interesting. OK, all right. All right. So one point for you 0 for me.00:02:46JackI was I.00:02:47JackWas only off by like 60 years so.00:02:50XochitlYeah, only though only.00:02:52JackShe's been only 60 years.00:02:53XochitlYou're in the right vein though, because present.00:02:58Jack#2, can you recall a specific goal or aspiration your friend mentioned recently?00:03:07JackOK, so something.00:03:08JackA goal that you have recently, a goal I feel like you've talked about this.00:03:14JackUM.00:03:18JackI want to say that you aspire to create some music like record something, because I know that you're a very talented musician. In particular, you have a an excellent singing voice because I've heard you sing on your Facebook.00:03:38JackYou've posted some of your compositions and stuff.00:03:42JackAnd I feel like like one of your goals is to is to do it more seriously, you know, maybe not professionally, but to take it more seriously, am I. Am I on the?00:03:56JackRight to track here.00:03:57XochitlYes, that is, that is the right track. Yeah, I I'm giving that to you for sure.00:04:03JackOK. OK. OK.00:04:05JackAnd what about?00:04:06JackWhat the question was, yeah, can you recall a specific goal or aspiration your friend mentioned recently?00:04:15XochitlOK, I was confused about the recently part OK recently.00:04:23XochitlI believe that one of your goals for this new year.00:04:27XochitlWas to.00:04:30XochitlImprove your health overall. Is that correct?00:04:34JackYeah, lose weight.00:04:35JackYeah, exactly, exactly.00:04:39JackBut I I started with my New Year's resolution was to lose lose weight.00:04:46JackTake a cold shower every day, like 30 seconds ice ice shower and not drink coffee for the first hour and I failed. I did 3 days of cold showers. I did it and it is brutal.00:05:06JackIn the winter.00:05:08JackOh man.00:05:09XochitlIs your how warm in the winter is like the thing I'm curious about? Because in Korea a lot of times it's windows, right, floor heating.00:05:18JackBut the bathrooms are not heated, though.00:05:21XochitlSo the bathroom is cold.00:05:23JackYeah. So when you walk in the?00:05:24JackBathroom. It's kind.00:05:25JackOf like walking outside, it's so weird, you know?00:05:28XochitlRight. Well, that was my question.00:05:29XochitlBecause I find that.00:05:30XochitlA lot of people don't turn though I I might be saying that wrong on the.00:05:34XochitlOn the floor heating.00:05:35JackYeah, floor heating, right? Right. Yep.00:05:37XochitlIt don't turn a lot of people don't turn it on that much during the winter or only for like a limited time, because it's quite expensive, right? So that's why I was like, is your house like actually warmer? Like, is it probably kind of on the cooler side, right.00:05:43JackYes, yes.00:05:52JackYou know, it's not like like.00:05:54JackThe American system everything is goes through event right? So so it warms the air and the the air in the room gets warm. Here they warm the floor and it kind of trickles up. But it's never really like.00:06:07JackIf you lie on the floor, it feels fantastic. If you could find a hot spot on the floor. I used to do that in my old apartment when I was single. I would find a hot spot and I would just sleep there at night. Put a blanket.00:06:17JackDown and sleep on a hot spot like a.00:06:21JackLike a dog, you.00:06:23JackKnow finding a like a warm spot. But now we kind of keep it at a certain level where it's just enough to be comfortable but we but conserve energy because it's very expensive.00:06:42JackBut uh yeah, I I I failed on two of those, but I'm. I'm still exercising every day, so I figured but make 3 New Year's resolutions and then, you know, throw two of them away. You still got one. You're doing all right.00:06:57XochitlRight. Yeah, I think you're doing OK. I.00:07:01XochitlI honestly kind of ohh right? I do remember what my resolution was but I I want to.00:07:08XochitlI want to kick him up a notch like I'm trying to to actually have a little more direction, but actually remember, Jack, I I think we might have to rewatch the episode, remember?00:07:14발표자What was your New Year's?00:07:15JackResolution again, I forgot.00:07:22XochitlI think it.00:07:23XochitlWas I I think I wanted, I think.00:07:27XochitlUh, I don't remember Jack. Maybe I want to be more assertive or some.00:07:30XochitlSaying that, I can't really remember.00:07:33XochitlOr maybe like stop?00:07:33발표자I think you.00:07:34JackWanted to win a Grammy, wasn't it? Something like that.00:07:36XochitlHa ha, I wish that would be resolution.00:07:40XochitlI better get on that then.00:07:42JackYou got it. Very yeah, yeah.00:07:44XochitlTo win the Grammy so.00:07:47JackOK, #3, what is your friend's or podcasting partners? Favorite book or author?00:07:56XochitlI don't think you've told me this about yourself.00:07:59JackI know and I don't.00:08:00JackThink I.00:08:01XochitlWait, wait. Uh.00:08:03XochitlI know you.00:08:03XochitlLike, Oh my God. Howard then.00:08:07JackOhh I do like how.00:08:08JackIt's in, yeah, yeah.00:08:08발표자I know you. Yeah, I know.00:08:10XochitlYou like him? I don't think. I don't think he's a favorite, but I know you.00:08:14XochitlLike him and then?00:08:14XochitlI know you like God was.00:08:17XochitlIt Warren peace or it was one of those long books.00:08:23XochitlThat's like classic literature.00:08:25JackYeah, I think you're thinking a farewell to arms.00:08:28XochitlYes, they're well, the arms. That's the one, yes.00:08:32JackThat's maybe my favorite book, one of my.00:08:34JackFavorite books by Ernest.00:08:36JackHemingway. Yeah, he's my favorite author. I.00:08:38JackWould say.00:08:39XochitlWhat you have?00:08:39XochitlTold me your favorite author is yes.00:08:41JackYeah, yeah, you're close, though. I mean, like, war and peace farewelled arms, there's this, this similar, you know, genre.00:08:49XochitlKind of, yeah, I suppose.00:08:52JackWar and peace was more of a that. That's that's a tough one to get through. That's like.00:08:56Jack500 pieces or something. Yeah, yeah.00:08:56XochitlYeah, it's 500.00:08:58XochitlIt's OK.00:09:00발표자How about you?00:09:00JackWith all those with.00:09:01JackAll those Russian names in there too, you know, so.00:09:04XochitlI know. Yeah. Throwing you off. Gosh.00:09:08JackI'm. I'm gonna say.00:09:12JackI have no idea. You're in. You're an English lit major, but I'm thinking like.00:09:18JackPaulo Carlo Paulo kilo.00:09:20JackI don't know if I'm saying his name right.00:09:22XochitlI don't know who that is, Jack, I'll.00:09:23XochitlBe honest.00:09:25JackThe Alchemist no.00:09:29JackNo. OK, OK. I'm. I'm sorry.00:09:32XochitlYou're fine. You're fine.00:09:33JackI have no idea.00:09:35XochitlUMI don't really.00:09:38XochitlKnow about.00:09:38JackOhh JK Rowling.00:09:40JackJust kidding.00:09:40XochitlNo, definitely.00:09:41XochitlNot, I don't know if I.00:09:43XochitlWould have a favorite author. How about a favorite book? One favorite do.00:09:46JackYeah, sure.00:09:48XochitlYou know any?00:09:49JackOhh favorite book such as Favorite Book.00:09:53XochitlShort story.00:09:59JackI mean.00:10:02JackYeah, I could say, like Don Quixote. But I mean that was that's such a lame guess, you know.00:10:06XochitlThis is that is a pretty bad guess. I'm not going to lie, that's a bad one. I mean, I'm so bad. All right, well, I'll tell you, I have a like, three kind of favorites off top of my head. Do you see? Says Quintos acting on Mexicanos, which are, like 16 Latin American shorter stories. That's what, that's.00:10:06JackWhat I mean?00:10:09JackYeah, yeah, yeah.00:10:24XochitlAnd then a couple in.00:10:25XochitlEnglish, which is the yellow wallpaper by Charlotte Gillmans Perkins.00:10:32XochitlThe bell drive by Sylvia Platt.00:10:35JackOhh. OK, OK. OK wow. Alright, alright. I you know it would. We could have been here all day and all night. And I I wouldn't have even gotten close to that Sylvia Plath. Yeah. I've never read any Sylvia Plath, but I've I've I've, you know, there's so many like references to her.00:10:54JackIn pop culture, you know what I mean.00:10:57JackRight.00:10:58JackBut uh, OK, the the yellow wallpaper. I've heard of it, but I have never read.00:11:03JackIt before so.00:11:04XochitlYou need to get on that you. You should read both of these because I think they're really interesting.00:11:12JackYeah, I'm thinking.00:11:13XochitlBut with the.00:11:13XochitlThe bell jar by Sylvia Platt.00:11:17XochitlIt is pretty depressing as a book. I mean the the yellow wallpaper is also depressing. They're both depressing. They're both kind of. They're both kind of like feminist core. Deep depression for feminist intellectuals that are caged kind of by social expectations.00:11:35JackYeah, that's right. In my right in my.00:11:37XochitlWheelhouse. Yeah, it's like early 1900s kind of American literature, which is where, I mean, not early, but early to mid 1900s, so like 1950s and before and that.00:11:41JackYeah, yeah.00:11:51XochitlKind of wheelhouse, I want to say. For Sylvia. Pup, I'm not super sure when the bell jar came out, but it was somewhere in that time frame where women were pretty limited.00:12:02JackRight, right.00:12:03XochitlAnd she kind of wants more for herself. And she's a brilliant woman, and the novel is, I guess, partially autobiographical, or at least.00:12:13XochitlLoosely. Yeah. I don't know. I do really recommend it. I think it's a great piece for anyone, but just for our listeners, do be warned. There is some like mature and depressing content, I would say.00:12:27JackYeah, but that's what makes a novel.00:12:31JackYou know that's that's good.00:12:32XochitlSend send.00:12:33XochitlYeah, it makes you think, makes you really think so.00:12:36JackRight, OK, OK. So we're.00:12:40JackYou, you. You.00:12:41JackGot that? But I was, uh, I wasn't even in the right planet. Yeah, I was. I wasn't. I wasn't in the right Galaxy.00:12:45XochitlYou have.00:12:51JackOK.00:12:52JackDo you know?00:12:52XochitlI think that.00:12:53XochitlWe meeting you today and last time you.00:12:55XochitlDefinitely beat me soundly so.00:12:57JackOK, OK. Yeah, today you are. You're you're crushing it. Do you know your podcasting partners, pet peeves or something that annoys them?00:13:10XochitlI know one for you.00:13:12JackOK.00:13:13XochitlI think when.00:13:13XochitlPeople like ask you to borrow certain stuff.00:13:18JackOhh yeah, that's pretty good. I would agree with that. Yeah, like UM.00:13:23JackLike something that's really.00:13:24XochitlLike it's.00:13:25JackSomething that's like really sentimental or something like that.00:13:28XochitlYeah, or like something that you really value or that's like really expensive, whatever. And you know, that person's not really like the type to take care of it.00:13:36JackYes, that is a huge pet peeve of mine. I would I'll give you that point because.00:13:42JackAnd again, don't lend it to don't never lend something that that you're that you can't accept losing or having broken, you know. And boundaries are OK. It's OK to say no to someone you know? Yeah, I think so many people. Sometimes they get like kind of.00:13:57발표자Right.00:14:02JackThey can't say no.00:14:04JackYou know.00:14:05XochitlAnd they're, like, afraid to say no.00:14:07JackAnd then and then they borrow, they lend it to somebody and it gets damaged. And they really are upset. And it's like, hey, man, that's on you and not on the other person, you know.00:14:19XochitlRight, because you can't you put yourself in that situation and ultimately.00:14:24JackExactly, exactly. Boundaries are OK. It's OK to make boundaries.00:14:31JackWhat bothers you?00:14:35JackI think I mean this one, I know.00:14:36JackIs is going to be like.00:14:40JackI know you're gonna agree with it, but I'm not sure if it's like your your biggest pet peeve, but it's like, I think you hate like being like gaslit, you know, gaslighting.00:14:48XochitlYeah, that one gets me that. How did you know that? Because I guess maybe we talked about it at some point, but yeah, it it's it's. I don't like being invalidated. It really bothers me.00:15:00JackYeah, yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, because it's like, especially when, you know.00:15:07JackThe right thing and someone is telling you when when someone's telling you, you know, left is right. Black is white, up is down and you know that they're wrong it it really irks you, I think.00:15:20XochitlYeah. Yeah, it really grinds my gears and and.00:15:27XochitlI think they used to argue more with people like this, and then I realize like that's like.00:15:32XochitlThey're baiting you, you know.00:15:33XochitlAnd like going around like they're just baiting, they want this reaction. They're trying to fight because they get, like, a they get.00:15:42XochitlSatisfaction. Yeah. They get satisfaction. They get, like, emotional energy from you, which is what they want. They want to suck the joy.00:15:50XochitlThings for you and they like thrive on the chaos of of intense emotional reactions that they provoke in other people. And they may not even be aware of it. They're just, that's like how they're wired to operate, kind of like in the chaos. And they enjoy.00:15:51JackRight.00:16:04XochitlThat and I. So as I've gotten older, I've just kind of learned to be like, OK, that person's like that, but it still gets.00:16:09XochitlOn my nerves.00:16:10XochitlSo I'll give.00:16:11XochitlYou that one, I'll give that.00:16:11JackRight, OK, OK, alright. Alright. And I would say advice like life advice. Avoid those people. Like cut those people out.00:16:19JackOf your life.00:16:19XochitlYes. Yeah, you don't need those people because.00:16:19JackYou know, whenever you can.00:16:22XochitlThey they're not your real one either. They.00:16:28XochitlEnjoy actually of seeing you suffer, which definitely.00:16:31XochitlMakes them not a good person to be around or.00:16:33JackThat's the opposite of a.00:16:34JackFriend, you know.00:16:36XochitlLiterally the opposite of a friend they enjoy seeing you supper or two. They just don't know how to relate to people.00:16:41XochitlIn a healthy way.00:16:42JackRight.00:16:43XochitlUM, and you don't really want those people in your life either, because when you need like support or you need things in your life that a normal friendship or relationship should be able to offer, those people can't offer that because they don't. They're not wired to operate that way.00:16:57JackThey don't have it and I think what they're doing is testing you all the time. It's like, how far can I push you and you'll still be my friend and.00:17:06JackAnd there but.00:17:07JackIt's it comes from a very deep insecurity in their own self esteem. Like they're they they don't have any self esteem and they're they're basically.00:17:19JackVampires. You know, they're gonna they're gonna suck yours away. And, yeah, avoid those people. Life is too short.00:17:31XochitlYeah, that's true. To be around people 100% happy people. Sorry around happy people. Yes, I agree.00:17:35발표자There you go.00:17:36JackYeah, and.00:17:40XochitlAll right, click over 50. Sorry, go ahead.00:17:42XochitlDid I cut you off?00:17:43JackOh, sorry. OK. Our last one is, what is your podcasting partner's most cherished, cherished possession or item?00:17:54XochitlJack you.00:17:58JackDo you want to go first?00:18:00XochitlUM, I don't really know for you. Like, just you, like, not counting things that belong to your family or or are were given to you by your family or anything. I remember you saying.00:18:13XochitlI remember you talking about like a leather jacket or something.00:18:18JackNo, I I have a lot of jackets, but it's not a real leather jacket. But I I just bought that off of like a a cheap website.00:18:27JackWell, I did have one that I, but it I found it at a A.00:18:32JackA thrift store.00:18:33JackMany years ago, but I lost it. But my most prized possession is my guitar and it was given to me by my father when I was 18. Yeah, and I still have it. It's a Yamaha acoustic guitar.00:18:41XochitlHey, honey.00:18:43발표자Go ahead.00:18:49JackOhh it's black. It's kind of a Johnny Cash vibe to it and and that is my you know, the one if my house is on fire, forget the passport. I'm grabbing my guitar and well and and my wife and my dog. But you know, if if there's time.00:19:09JackI'm grabbing that.00:19:10JackGuitar and yeah, absolutely for you that that you your your mom gave?00:19:18JackYou a necklace?00:19:19JackI believe or your grandmother gave you a necklace and but you you you placed it somewhere so special that you can't find it and.00:19:28XochitlNo, actually, my mom is the one who put it somewhere that she can't find.00:19:34JackOhh OK, it's not yours.00:19:36XochitlIt is mine. It's my necklace. But she put it away. I got it when I was 15 because of my quinceanera. So my.00:19:43JackRight, right, right, right.00:19:44XochitlPut it away.00:19:45XochitlFor me, because of that and now she can't find it. But it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. This is not my most prized possession.00:19:48JackShe put it away so well.00:19:54JackOh, OK, this is not your most part.00:19:56XochitlNo, it's like to the point where I'm like, that's OK. If she never finds it. I mean, I kind of hope she does, but it's she.00:20:01XochitlDoesn't. I'm not crying. I'm not losing sleep though.00:20:02JackOK.00:20:04JackUM that I also know that you have a duct tape wallet.00:20:12JackThat a friend needs for you.00:20:12XochitlYeah, some friend made for me, but that's also not.00:20:16XochitlStrive to that.00:20:16JackYeah, you seem like a you're you're like a a.00:20:22JackYou you you seem like a person who's got like, like, collects things with memories, you know. And so.00:20:30XochitlI do have a most prized possession. That's.00:20:32XochitlReally funny. Do you want?00:20:33XochitlDo you want to just give up?00:20:34JackIs yours your guitar?00:20:38XochitlIt's also my guitar. My dad gave me my guitar and he was gifted to him by my grandfather on my mom's side. So actually his father-in-law and it was handmade by my grandfather's father. So that's like his best friend.00:20:51JackThat's right, yes.00:20:54XochitlAnd he they gave that they gave to that to my father as a present. And I hear that I think when he was pregnant with my mom was pregnant with me, they were pregnant with me that he used to try to play that guitar.00:21:05XochitlAre, but he kind of.00:21:10XochitlI'm pretty sure he has, like ADHD or something. He he stopped playing. I mean, I'm pretty sure that's where I get it.00:21:16XochitlFrom at this point.00:21:17JackHe learned he learned like like 1 clear. Clear what? Creedence Clearwater Revival song. And he he that was it. He's like I got this.00:21:28XochitlRight up, he learned some like weird jazz chords or something. And then he gave up.00:21:32XochitlOn it I.00:21:32XochitlGuess and when I was 16, I really wanted to learn the guitar. I came back from a trip from China with the guitar.00:21:40XochitlAnd and.00:21:42XochitlAnd because I really wanted to learn guitar and my dad saw that, I guess. And.00:21:49XochitlHe gifted me his guitar because he had gifted his.00:21:51XochitlSaxophone to my sister and I never played or had any interest.00:21:55JackOhh man, I would so much rather have.00:21:56JackThe guitar.00:21:58XochitlYeah. Same same. Yeah. So, yeah, he he gifted me the guitar and I'm very happy about it. It's still my most prized possession. OK. And it's a beautiful guitar. Yeah.00:22:08JackYeah, that's awesome. OK, so both of us have the same prized possession guitars from our fathers. Wow. And this is this is like the dads week right here.00:22:17JackOK.00:22:18XochitlYeah, this is very that's just such a weird, like, kind of coincidence. It's like a glitch in the matrix. Coincidence. The creepy.00:22:28JackWell, that's. Yeah, that's.00:22:29JackWe make good, good podcasting partners, I guess.00:22:32XochitlYeah, it's interesting. Yeah. All right, listen, we'll tell us what you thought about this episode. If you like these game episodes, please let us know in a comment down below at A-Z, englishpodcast.com and let us know what your most prized possession is. Shoot us an e-mail at AZ englishpodcast@gmail.com. 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Xochitl and Jack discuss the concept of nostalgia, defining it as longing for past experiences and reminiscing about a time or place. They share their personal experiences of feeling nostalgic for Korea and discuss the challenges of living as foreigners. They also express nostalgia for their time spent in Thailand and invite listeners to share their own nostalgic experiences.

In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Jack tests Xochitl's knowledge of 1960s and 70s slang.Transcript:00:00:01JackWelcome to the A to Z English podcast. My name is Jack, and today I'm here with my co-host social. And this is a vocabulary builder episode and I don't know social how useful this vocabulary is going to be for our students. But it's fun and I have some 1960s and 1970s.00:00:21JackSlang and I think.00:00:25JackThe closer we get to, you know, the the 2000s, the, the more you're going to know because you know, like giggle water. That was a pretty weird one last week, the 40s and 50s.00:00:40JackI just want to say I just.00:00:41JackLove seeing giggle water? I don't know why it's such.00:00:43JackA hard word, yeah.00:00:46JackSo here's some 60 slang uh #1 groovy.00:00:52JackWhat does groovy mean?00:00:54XochitlIt just means cool. Like, wow, that's Ruby, man. It's like, that's cool. That's neat. That's like.00:01:01XochitlChill, you know, that's cool.00:01:03JackYep, exactly. Groovy. Cool. Awesome. How about rad?00:01:11XochitlUh, I mean the same thing. Like awesome, those are bad waves. It's like those are some amazing waves. Yeah. It's basically the same as groovy.00:01:21JackAh, your new car is groovy. Your new car is.00:01:24JackRad. Like. That's it. Yeah.00:01:28JackOK.00:01:28XochitlOr it's like.00:01:28XochitlOhh Brian is a rad dude man. Yeah, he is groovy. Yeah, like.00:01:34JackSo so many of.00:01:35JackThese are the same, but uh.00:01:38JackWhat is a hippie?00:01:40XochitlA hippie is a person that.00:01:44XochitlIt was kind of a movement in the 60s and 70s, I guess and.00:01:51XochitlAnyone listening to that word will have a visual like the little bandana headband thing, the grounds John Lennon sunglasses or glasses. Yeah, the kind of.00:02:02JackBell bottom pants.00:02:04XochitlBell bottom pants and open vest or whatever.00:02:08JackChest hair. Lots of chest hair.00:02:10XochitlYeah, yeah, it was just kind of like, you know.00:02:16XochitlPeace, anti war, cultural movement of the 60s and 70s, so it's.00:02:22XochitlKind of. Basically what?00:02:23JackRight. Or maybe we could say countercultural.00:02:26XochitlYes, countercultural movement of the 60s and 70s and I guess it arose.00:02:34XochitlAlso, in contrast to the Vietnam War.00:02:40JackRight. That was a big part of it was.00:02:43JackSome protesting the war, you know, anti war, love not love and peace. Love not war, that kind of stuff, yeah.00:02:53JackMake Make Love not war.00:02:55JackThat's the. That's the expression, yeah.00:02:57XochitlThat the hippie slogan.00:02:59JackRight.00:03:01JackOut of sight.00:03:03XochitlOut of sight.00:03:07XochitlDoes that mean, like far out?00:03:09JackYeah, it's same, it's.00:03:10JackSame as groovy out of sight.00:03:12XochitlYeah, I guess it means super cool that one almost got me because I said to be like out.00:03:16XochitlOf sight. Out.00:03:17XochitlOf mind, which means like if you don't see it, you don't.00:03:20XochitlThink about it.00:03:21XochitlOr whatever and.00:03:21XochitlThen like that, can't be right out of sight.00:03:23XochitlIs far is like far.00:03:24XochitlOut, which is the same as Ruby.00:03:26XochitlRad. Cool all that.00:03:28JackGroovy red cool out of sight. Yeah, yeah. Bummer.00:03:32XochitlFar out.00:03:36XochitlI we still use that, that's the banner.00:03:38발표자I know.00:03:39XochitlIt's like.00:03:41XochitlUM, the winter has been super mild here in Iowa. And then I was telling someone I was talking to someone and I was like, oh, it's been such a mild winter. And like, you know, it's the. So it's snow 10 inches later today. And I was like, that's a bummer. It just it sucks, basically. Oh, my God, that sucks. That's terrible. That's bad news. That's a.00:04:00JackRight. Disappointing or unfortunate situation. You know, a bummer, you know. Ohh John can't come to the party on Friday. Ohh, what a bummer.00:04:12JackThat's a bummer.00:04:14XochitlRight.00:04:15JackOr if we hate John.00:04:17JackThat's rad, but OK.00:04:22JackCatch some rays.00:04:27XochitlEdson rays. I think a lot of people use this in surf culture and and hippie culture, whether it's like I'm gonna go out and catch some rays like get some sunshine.00:04:40JackYes. Yep. Get get it. Get some sun, get get some sun sunbathing. Get some sunshine, get some rays.00:04:51JackUM freak out.00:04:57XochitlFreak out.00:05:04XochitlJust go all out, man. Go like.00:05:09XochitlThere's that song that has that as a lyric. Yeah, I think that. Yeah.00:05:13JackFreak out.00:05:17XochitlIt's just like having.00:05:18XochitlA good time and and dancing and stuff. I think I don't know.00:05:24JackOh, wow. OK, so this one, you kind of missed this one a little bit. I mean, I think I think you're thinking more of like I think.00:05:28발표자Thank you.00:05:32JackThe more modern version of.00:05:33JackThis is like to kind of freak out. Is like to go.00:05:37JackTo get freaky, which is totally different like freaky.00:05:40XochitlWell, freak out trying to like freak out is like, Oh my God. Like, that's horrible too. That would that even this context? Because something because it can also mean like your parents freaked out because you wouldn't. You decided to skip school today.00:05:46JackRight. And lose control.00:05:58JackYes, exactly. Got angry.00:05:59XochitlThat's what it means. Ohh.00:06:00발표자They freaked out, yeah.00:06:00XochitlThat's the context, I think just too.00:06:02JackThat's the context.00:06:03발표자Hard about it because.00:06:04XochitlI like if it's old then it must be something different, because I remembered that song.00:06:09JackRight, right. Yeah. And maybe like, you're right, I think there is. There are a couple of contexts for this one actually. Yeah, cause the freak out can also mean to, like, get freaky, which is to more of like, just, like, lose lose control in a good way, you know? And just like like let loose.00:06:09XochitlAnd I.00:06:17XochitlRight, there's.00:06:30JackBut in this case, yeah, they're saying more. Like get angry, you know, emotionally lose control and freak out. My parents freaked out.00:06:43JackHow about dude?00:06:45JackNow this is 70s now we're in the 70s now.00:06:48XochitlFood is just a word for a guy. It's just like both a dude or a person, but but usually different.00:06:51JackRight.00:06:54JackYeah, you use it. I still use it. I'm like, hey, dude, come on, you know.00:07:00XochitlI used to say hey, man or hey guy.00:07:02XochitlHey, I do. I think they do, I think.00:07:02JackYeah, yeah.00:07:05XochitlI do use it sometimes though.00:07:06JackYeah, I I used it more like dude.00:07:09JackLike, why did you do that?00:07:10XochitlWhat the heck?00:07:12XochitlMan, that is weird. Yeah, like.00:07:15JackDude, relax, chill out.00:07:17XochitlI really but it.00:07:18XochitlWas like the only person I really talked to like that was my dog. When I tell him like.00:07:22JackYeah. You're like, come on, dude. Yeah.00:07:26JackUM, funky.00:07:29XochitlFunky is.00:07:34XochitlIs that a good thing?00:07:36XochitlYeah. OK. Then if in the context where it's a good thing, it just means.00:07:43XochitlCool, fresh, original groovy. It's like the same thing size.00:07:48JackYeah, same thing. Same thing. Yeah, boogie.00:07:54XochitlThat means to dance.00:07:56JackTo dance is to boogie.00:07:58XochitlThe as the song goes so.00:08:00JackYep, Yep, there you go.00:08:03JackThis one is right in your wheelhouse right here. This is related to your name.00:08:08JackChill out.00:08:10XochitlPill out. It just means to relax, like dude, chill out is like, take it down a few notches. Relax. It's not that you're chill out.00:08:20JackI like that dude. Chill out, right?00:08:24XochitlOhh, groovy man. Chill out.00:08:25JackOhh baby, it's it's all far out tube sock.00:08:33XochitlWhat the heck?00:08:34XochitlThis is like calling someone a tube sock.00:08:37JackNo, this is just a just like a noun, just the the item. What is?00:08:40발표자The tube stock.00:08:41XochitlThen ohh a person, a tube sock is just like a sock that people wore like a one of those white socks.00:08:50XochitlThat goes up way up your shin.00:08:51JackRight.00:08:52JackHas has like 2 red stripes on it.00:08:55XochitlYeah, or sometimes they're just white. But yeah, it's like in that vein.00:08:58JackRight.00:08:59JackRight.00:08:59XochitlThat's funny. I thought it was like I still thought it was slang, so I was gonna be like, man, you're such a tube sock. Like I like.00:09:06XochitlAn insult.00:09:08JackYou suck.00:09:12JackMake it we're making new slang here the IT is the English podcast. Don't be a tube. Don't be such a tube sock, man.00:09:19XochitlYeah, yeah.00:09:20JackDude, foxy.00:09:25XochitlOoh, foxy means like attractive person, woman or man. That's hot, attractive.00:09:32JackSo what do you? Would you, you. You.00:09:35JackLike women will describe men as foxy as well.00:09:38XochitlI've seen it.00:09:39XochitlIn old time movies, I don't know if if it's accurate to the time period, but I have seen.00:09:46XochitlAnd like in movies that are supposed to be like from, like Greece and stuff.00:09:51XochitlThat's kind of in.00:09:51XochitlThat time period.00:09:52XochitlI guess.00:09:52JackYeah, I feel like women.00:09:54XochitlHave some.00:09:54JackMore say like the hot like the hot.00:09:58JackThat guy's hot.00:09:58XochitlOh, yeah, well, no one really uses foxy period anymore, but I feel like in the time period I think people did use Foxy.00:10:05JackYeah, yeah, I right. This is the 70s. I'm, I'm. I'm talking. I was talking about right now. Right. But you're right. Yeah.00:10:12XochitlYeah, even now then, wouldn't use Foxy for women. Really. And women wouldn't really use foxy for men. But I think back in the time period, I do think it was.00:10:20XochitlAt least somewhat gender neutral.00:10:22XochitlBut probably more applied to women than men.00:10:24JackOK, OK.00:10:26JackThis one if if any of these are going to.00:10:29JackGet you this will get you.00:10:32JackGag me with a spoon.00:10:37XochitlI think they know the intent of what it means, but I'm trying to figure out how.00:10:40XochitlTo phrase it, it's like uh, gag me.00:10:43XochitlWith the spoon, man.00:10:44XochitlLike you like.00:10:46XochitlIs it that kind of thing?00:10:48JackYeah. Disgusting. Yeah, yeah.00:10:50XochitlRose, yeah.00:10:51JackYeah. So when you see something disgusting, you, uh, gag me with a spoon. We used to use that a lot in the in the 80s when we were kids. I think we heard our parents use that expression.00:11:02JackFrom the 70s.00:11:03JackSo yeah, I see something like, uh, gag me with a spoon, which is such a dumb expression. It's so stupid.00:11:03XochitlIt's sunny.00:11:14XochitlIt is kind of cringey.00:11:16JackYeah. And why is spoon so weird?00:11:20XochitlYeah, yeah. And it's using fingers.00:11:20JackI don't get it. Yeah.00:11:27JackOK. Yeah. Get those spoons out. Yeah, right on.00:11:33XochitlRight on my dad still uses that sometimes. It just means like it's, let's say, someone says an opinion. You really agree with, like. Yeah. Right on, man. Like, that's you're right, man. Like you got it.00:11:47JackYeah, yeah, I like how you use man at the end there. That's very 70s.00:11:51JackRight on, man.00:11:53XochitlWe don't need.00:11:55JackTotally man. Right on. No, wait. Totally. We haven't gotten to the 80s yet, so that's next week.00:12:03JackOK. Yeah, that's it again. Social, you aced the exam, but.00:12:11XochitlYeah, I got this. You know, I have an old dad, kind of. So I guess that probably helps.00:12:17JackWell, you have a you have a groovy dad.00:12:21XochitlYeah, I have a groovy dad. He. I mean, he's younger than your dad. He's like, in between your dad and your age. So.00:12:28JackRight. I mean, he's like he's either like a really, he's like an old Gen.00:12:32JackXer or or a young.00:12:34XochitlLike the last, he was like the last year to be a Gen. X or the sorry the last year to be a boomer or the first year to.00:12:41XochitlBe a Gen. X or cusp.00:12:43JackOK, OK. And I'm I'm right on the the kind of opposite, I'm like the the.00:12:48JackWhat am I?00:12:49JackLike millennial Gen. X I'm, I'm on.00:12:52JackThe line there.00:12:53XochitlYeah. And I'm a Gen.00:12:55XochitlZ millennial cusp. So that's funny, we're just three generations of cuspers.00:13:00JackWe're all. We're all just a bunch of lost generation people, you know? Yeah.00:13:04XochitlYeah, there's a. There's a really funny. I'll send you it later. Jack. On Facebook, there's a guy who does like the different generations. And every time he does, Gen. X, the guy reminds me of you. He's always wearing, like, a beanie.00:13:15XochitlAnd it like.00:13:17XochitlIt it just it kind of reminds me.00:13:19XochitlOf you in a way, because he's like wearing the beanie and stuff and it just like, yeah, it's like.00:13:23XochitlJack, in a way, I don't describe it, but.00:13:25발표자I'm. I'm I'm.00:13:26JackAlways wearing a I'll be either a ball cap or a beanie, but it's not a it's not a shame thing, it's more just like a my head gets cold.00:13:34XochitlI think it's a good trend thing, like for that, for like people who are kind of Gen. Xers because it's like he's representing Gen. Xers and he's always.00:13:42XochitlWearing the beanie.00:13:43JackYeah. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do wear like, yeah, that kind of like that, like, Brooklyn, the hipster kind of.00:13:44XochitlAnd I think that's.00:13:52XochitlLook. And it's funny because.00:13:53JackYeah, beanie, look.00:13:53XochitlWhen he's a millennial, he wears like a baseball cap. And so it's funny that you're like on the cusp and you wear, like, the baseball cap or the beanie.00:14:02JackYeah, my my style is like if I if I don't look like a gas station attendant, then I'm doing something wrong, that that's my, my, my kind of look.00:14:03발표자Right.00:14:14XochitlYeah, that's kind of what this, Jenna, I'll. I'll have to send it to you. It really it reset. It resonates with your aura.00:14:21JackYeah. Nice.00:14:23발표자OK.00:14:23XochitlAlright, listener as well, let us know what you think and comment down below at A-Z englishpodcast.com shoot us an e-mail at AZ englishpodcast@gmail.com and join our WeChat and WhatsApp groups to join the conversation. 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In this episode of The Jack & 'Chill Podcast, Xochitl and Jack talk about medical emergencies.Transcript:00:00:03XochitlJack, you kind of had a scary experience, not kind of. You definitely had a scary experience this week. Do you want?00:00:10XochitlTo tell our viewers about it.00:00:12JackYeah, I would, I.00:00:13JackWould love to to share this. Some of our listeners out there who are students in our world English.00:00:22JackGoogle meets class.00:00:24JackI know that I've I have been absent lately. The last week or so, and about a week ago, my father had a a major heart attack which was terrifying, you know, for our family and when the.00:00:45JackThe doctors did tests and everything they found that basically.00:00:50JackAll the arteries and artery is like it's like a tube that carries blood.00:00:55XochitlAgain, laser vein, right a major vein.00:00:57JackRight. Because your heart pumps.00:00:59JackBlood to the rest of your.00:01:01JackBody and it and blood feeds into the heart and then it pumps out and.00:01:09JackHis his arteries were all blocked like they were up. Some of them were 99% blocked, which is, I mean, you're he. He was not getting enough blood. Umm.00:01:23JackAnd uh. And so he ended up having.00:01:26JackA heart attack.00:01:27JackAnd you know, it's the life when when you lived the life that social and I have lived like, where you work overseas.00:01:40JackYou're so far away from home and it's very difficult to receive news that your your family member is is really sick or having a very serious medical emergency.00:01:54JackAnd so it was really. Here's an English expression, touch and go and touch and go means it was very delicate. Like he was very close.00:02:07JackTo to death.00:02:09JackAnd luckily my my brother and his his wife were visiting my parents and they both work in the medical profession.00:02:20JackMotion and my brother noticed the symptoms in my father and and and brought him into the hospital, and my dad has not left the hospital since that time and he actually went and had a a, a quadruple bypass and quadruples.00:02:41JackIt just means 4 quad means 4.00:02:44JackUM triple bypass means 3 double bypass means two and bypass means one and so he had a A4 bypasses quadruple bypass surgery where they connect arteries. They basically go around.00:03:04JackThe bad part of the artery? The the tube that carries blood into the heart and out of the heart. And they, you know, created new tubes that were clear.00:03:17JackAnd clean and they take those tubes from other parts of your body, like from your leg. Or maybe your arm. I'm not sure. And and they harvest them. They they put them, they sew them into.00:03:37JackInto the heart and he he had that surgery and I just talked to him before the podcast maybe 10 minutes ago.00:03:46JackNo, and he's out of surgery and he's doing really, really well. And so it was one of those, like, just terrifying moments where.00:03:58JackYou know, you you.00:04:01JackYou do that kind of like thinking in your head like is.00:04:05JackIs that the last time I'm gonna?00:04:08JackTalk to my dad, you know, like, is this is this it like and and and you know, before he went into surgery.00:04:16JackAnd so for those 24 hours while he was, you know, in surgery and and coming out of the surgery.00:04:23JackIt was, you know, I was trying to distract myself by listening to podcasts or, you know, talking with my wife and stuff like that. But luckily, everything went really, really well. And so it looks like he's going to make a full recovery.00:04:43JackAnd you know, and for any of our our listeners out there or anyone and I know that you recently experienced a loss in your family. I've experienced a a pretty significant loss a couple of years ago and it's it's just really scary and painful.00:05:04JackUM, all the uh. Here's another expression.00:05:08JackIn English, the woulda coulda should uh.00:05:11JackMoments. You know, I would have said something I could have said something. And so my big take away, the lesson I learned from this is, you know, hug your loved ones a little bit harder today, you know, because you we just don't know the future.00:05:32JackWe we do do not know the.00:05:34JackFuture and and and all the little petty grievances that we have with with our our relatives or our friends are so insignificant in the grand scheme of things, you know we.00:05:55JackYou know, we we hold on to.00:05:56JackThose those things that we.00:05:58JackWe shouldn't be holding on to and you have to let those go and just just squeeze your loved ones tightly and tell them that you love them because you just never know when when you're, when they're going to be gone and and sometimes it.00:06:19JackIt takes a wake up call like almost losing a a parent or a friend or a sibling.00:06:27JackBefore you you realize that, and once they're gone, it's it's too late, you know, to to do that. And so I feel like I got a second chance to really, you know, just say to my father, dad, I love you. You're you're amazing and.00:06:46JackAnd I feel so lucky and so blessed that I got that opportunity because it could have really gone the other way very easily.00:06:55JackAnd uh, you know, those are the the important things in life is family and and and friends and and loved ones that that's what really matters. So yeah that was the the harrowing experience that that we've been dealing with in my family here for.00:07:14JackThe last week or so.00:07:17XochitlThat's terrible, Jack. I'm really sorry you've been dealing.00:07:20XochitlWith all of that.00:07:21JackWell, thanks. Yeah. Yeah, I I, I I know we're we don't need to to, you know, keep talking about this but it kind of brought you you mentioned the topic of like family emergencies and things like that and.00:07:40JackWhat about you?00:07:40JackHave you experienced any like family emergencies that you don't mind sharing with our our podcast listeners?00:07:48XochitlYeah, for sure. I mean, I guess the first one would be when my grandfather passed away, I guess that was in October now.00:07:58XochitlOr the IT was either the end of September or the beginning of October. It's fuzzy in my mind at this point, but.00:08:07XochitlIt feels like.00:08:08XochitlSo long and go.00:08:09XochitlNow, because how of how the brain like process is lost?00:08:15XochitlIt just feels both so recent and so far at the same time, and and that was.00:08:21JackRight, right.00:08:23XochitlJust a big thing because I didn't. I couldn't even fly back to see him in time, really.00:08:33XochitlThat was a big deal. And then recently my grandmother this week as well on Monday.00:08:41XochitlWasn't able to get out.00:08:42XochitlOf bed she wasn't able to stand.00:08:44XochitlUp on her legs.00:08:46XochitlAnd we did call. I eventually convinced them to call the ambulance, which had to come and strap him to a chair because of the driveways, like on a slope. And it's very icy because of the Iowa weather.00:09:00XochitlAnd when they got her into the ambulance, they took her to the hospital and they did some imaging and some tests I found out she has pneumonia, bacterial pneumonia in her lungs. Pneumonia is an infection of the lungs. For those of you who don't know.00:09:14XochitlAnd so.00:09:17XochitlThat was kind of a big deal, but thankfully she's OK and they did tell us that at the hospital, you know, she was good to come home that night around 1:00 or 2:00 AM.00:09:30XochitlThey gave her an antibiotic and she's doing OK.00:09:34XochitlUM, but it certainly was scary in the moment. She was very confused. I didn't understand. It was why I wanted.00:09:41XochitlTo call the.00:09:41XochitlAmbulance, she's she.00:09:43XochitlHad a lot of like confusion and she seemed like lost.00:09:48XochitlAnd I thought it was weird. And when they came, they thought, you know, it might be pneumonia or some kind of infection. I didn't understand what the confusion was about, but once it got to her to the hospital, they had to put her on.00:09:59XochitlOxygen, because her oxygen was very low.00:10:02XochitlAnd of course that makes sense as to.00:10:04XochitlHow it affected her?00:10:06XochitlHer brain. Right. She wasn't getting that oxygen supply that she needed, which is why she was pretty confused.00:10:14JackExactly. Yep.00:10:16XochitlYeah, it it it. It was a scary experience and like Jack said, it makes you think, OK, you should enjoy.00:10:24XochitlAppreciate and value the time you have with people because you never know when the last conversation will be, when your last day together is going to be.00:10:32XochitlWhen your last memory together is going to be and I don't think you'll ever regret.00:10:37XochitlSpending that time together at the end.00:10:39발표자Of it.00:10:44XochitlYeah. And another big deal for me, I think is.00:10:50XochitlIt's important to.00:10:52XochitlSee the issues are family are dealing with in their older age as a full warning.00:10:59XochitlYou it's not just about.00:11:01XochitlHow long your life is, but it's about the quality of life that you experience, and at the end of your years, like into your 70s, eighties, 90s. If you make it that far, you want to live as comfortably as you can.00:11:17XochitlAnd and that definitely means taking care of your body now. So like your diet, maybe your your health in general keeping on top of any pre-existing conditions or any genetic conditions. You know that your family had, you know, keep screening for those things always prioritize your health get enough sleep.00:11:38XochitlEat healthy, sleep enough, drink enough water, do regular exercise and keep your body in good condition. Don't wear it out, you know.00:11:47XochitlBecause it.00:11:48XochitlIt works very hard every day and it's going to have to last you.00:11:53XochitlProbably 80 years at this point, you know, because of life expectancy altogether when a new baby is born is probably going to live into its 70s or 80s, so.00:12:03XochitlYeah, it's important to take care of your body.00:12:06JackYeah, we have a. This is another little idiom. Uh, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.00:12:20JackAnd what that means is just a little bit of a little bit of prevention early on like taking care of like what you said, your health, watching your diet, getting some exercise, getting good sleep. Sleep is really, really important.00:12:40JackUh, I think it's the one that most people ignore.00:12:46JackYou know and and if you do those things when you're young and you develop those good habits, then as you get older, your quality of life will remain much higher because.00:13:00JackI don't how many you know, do you?00:13:02JackDo people want to live to be 90?00:13:05JackBut the last 30 years of their lives, they're basically stuck in a chair.00:13:11JackYou know unable to move.00:13:15JackI do you do you have any? Like, I have some health issues and I don't mind sharing with the with the, with the listeners out there. A couple of my major health issues. One of them is that I have a genetic.00:13:35JackHigh genetically high cholesterol? It's not. It's not really anything that I can control with diet. My cholesterol is just always off the charts. And so I started visiting a cardiologist a couple years ago and a car. A cardiologist is a.00:13:54JackIs a heart doctor, a heart specialist and he put me on some medicine. They're called statins, and a statin is a medicine that lowers your cholesterol.00:14:06JackAnd that was something I I'm really glad I did that because I tried to manage it through my weight and I tried to manage it through my exercise and through my diet, and I was just never able to get my cholesterol under control. And as you can see, because my father just.00:14:26JackHad a heart attack.00:14:28JackIs that?00:14:29JackIn my family, we we genetically we're we have a a predisposition which means a high likelihood of of having some kind of heart problems later in life. And I thought if I can just get this under control now in my 40s.00:14:50JackMaybe I can avoid the same problems that my father just experienced and my grandfather experienced and my uncle and my cousin experienced. I mean, I it's all over my family. I it's it's lots of heart problems on my family, not so much cancer.00:15:10JackBut it feels like it's either one or the other in a family, right? It's like.00:15:16JackHearts are hearts great, but cancer, you know, is is common or not so much cancer, but a lot of heart problems. It seems like you can never avoid one of them one or the other.00:15:20발표자Right.00:15:32JackUM and the other thing that really is, is, uh, too late for me in some ways is that I have really serious back issues. So I've had two back surgeries already.00:15:47JackAnd I've it's it's something that really makes it difficult for me to exercise because I was an athlete in in high school and college. I played college basketball. I was in very good shape. You know, as an athlete.00:16:06JackAnd one of the things that is kind of common for athletes is once they stop playing competitively, they tend to.00:16:16JackGain weight and not remain healthy because there's no reason to exercise because you're not playing anymore games and so one of the the things that happened to me is I just got really, you know, kind of lazy and ate what I wanted to eat. But I wasn't exercising.00:16:37JackLike I like I was when I was in college and.00:16:42JackAnd so for me it's it's a little difficult because I can't run anymore my my spine is just too is too weak. I can't. I can't do long distance running, so I've been doing cycling lately and.00:17:01JackAnd and it's just it's it's a a kind of nagging issue and and I and I it's it's uh, it's something I wish I I wish I had.00:17:11JackTaken care of my back.00:17:14JackUMA lot better. When I was younger because now I'm kind of paying the price for not taking care of it 20 years ago.00:17:26JackUhm and uh and.00:17:28JackSo maybe that's.00:17:29JackI can give you kind of uh, uh. I could be kind of a a cautionary tale to people who are younger, like your age that take care of your back. Take care of your knees. You know, those are really important if you want to stay healthy because.00:17:46JackAnd in order to exercise you need you need to have.00:17:50JackA. A healthy spine and you need to have healthy knees and I've I've unfortunately had knee surgery, several back surgeries. I'm I'm just a kind of broken down machine.00:18:10JackIt's. Uh, yeah. So I I agree with you 100% what you're talking about is the prevention is is the cure many times.00:18:21발표자Right.00:18:26XochitlYeah, I I have.00:18:28XochitlSome long term health issues as well that I'm trying to to get taken care of here in my 20s so that through my 30s and 40s I can make sure my body.00:18:39XochitlIs strong enough that it won't keep deteriorating, I guess.00:18:43JackRight.00:18:44JackRight.00:18:46JackYeah. So I thought that we could transition to something that that is I, I guess the topic today is medical emergencies and we've we've talked about that a little.00:18:58JackBut and we there's a there was a question from one of our our students in, in our WhatsApp group and they were just kind of wondering like what is the the process for like when like when when people go to the hospital?00:19:19JackIn America.00:19:22JackAnd what is the uh like? They're asking. UM, what? What is the culture like when visiting a relative in the hospital? And I think it's kind of interesting because I I learned a few things about that in Korea.00:19:38JackAnd that it it's different than in America. And I'm I'm wondering if if you have the same experience or?00:19:48JackWhat the experience might be like in Mexico as well, because I know that you also have lived there for long periods of time. And so in Korea.00:19:59JackIf your family member has a surgery.00:20:03JackThe family is expected to do a lot of the.00:20:07JackKind of caretaking duties know. Obviously, the family is not giving, administering any shots or, you know, drugs or anything like that. They're not doing medical procedures, but if you know, if your family members in the hospital, there's always another family member in the room.00:20:28JackTo you know, give you a pillow.00:20:32JackHelp you eat, make you comfortable and nurses are much more kind of distanced.00:20:44JackFrom the patient, they're not. They're not really like sitting there, talking to you and taking care of you. They're they're much more interested in the kind of technical things like giving shots and checking your vital signs and things like that.00:21:02JackAnd that's kind of different than the American system. The American system is the nurses do a lot more.00:21:09JackI've found I've found, like their nurses are, you know they'll they'll, uh, bring your food. They'll help you eat it. They'll take the tray away. They will.00:21:23JackThey'll, you know, give you another pillow if you need a pillow, they'll ask you if you're comfortable. They'll they'll bring you a blanket if you're cold. Or take your blanket off if you're too hot. Those kinds of things. And that was a really kind of shocking difference. I noticed. And the reason I noticed that is because, like I said, I have had several.00:21:43JackBack surgeries and both of them were in Korea and the first time that I had back surgery in Korea.00:21:51JackI was I I I was here alone. You know, I wasn't married. And so I was just all alone in this room. And the nurse would come in really quickly, check my IV bag or whatever. And then she would leave. And.00:22:08JackBut my food was just sitting on another table.00:22:13JackKind of far away from my bed and.00:22:18JackNo one was there to.00:22:20JackI couldn't reach it.00:22:22JackLike it was just they just set it down on the table and walked out.00:22:27JackAnd I'm like.00:22:27XochitlRight. Reach for you.00:22:28JackHow? How am I supposed to? How am I?00:22:30JackSupposed to eat that? I can't even I can't move.00:22:33JackAnd I ended up having to grab this like pole.00:22:38JackAnd I had to reach the pole and hook the table and pull the table towards my my bed so that I could reach the the food and it was just really it was. It was really strange because it was.00:22:58JackThey basically expected me to have someone there to take care of me.00:23:03JackBut I didn't have anyone in the country.00:23:06JackTo take care of me.00:23:07JackSo I was kind of left, you know, without missing this this really important piece of of of, of the, of the of the process of, of recovering. And I don't know how. What would you like would you say in America nurses are?00:23:27JackMore hands on in in that regard.00:23:31XochitlYeah, I feel like the nurses are kind of the backbone of the medical industry in America, they.00:23:40XochitlDo a lot of the heavy lifting, like a lot of times, you'll see the doctor for like 5 minutes or 10 minutes, maybe. Probably less, more, more like 5 minutes and the nurse will do everything. They'll take your blood work, they'll swab you.00:23:45JackRight.00:23:56XochitlThey will ask you, do you know questions or fill fill out your history. They get your background and your story. If you're bedridden like you're old, or you just had a surgery, they'll like change out your bedpan or they'll walk you to the bathroom. They'll get your food for you. Like Jack said, they'll administer your medications.00:24:15XochitlFor you, uh, even if it's just.00:24:18XochitlA pill? They'll bring it to you.00:24:19XochitlWith water or.00:24:20XochitlWhatever they'll like. Refill your Sprite. I've been hospitalized a few different times, both in the.00:24:25XochitlUS and in Mexico.00:24:27XochitlJust this year I was probably hospitalized like 4.00:24:29XochitlOr five times.00:24:30XochitlMaybe. Yeah. And they.00:24:37XochitlHere in the US, like they'll they'll like order.00:24:39XochitlFood for you. Bring it to you. Give.00:24:41XochitlYou a Sprite, put.00:24:43XochitlLike SpongeBob on for you on the TV, it feels like being a.00:24:45XochitlLittle kid again. Kind of.00:24:46JackYeah, yeah, yeah.00:24:48XochitlAnd it's kind of nice because all.00:24:51XochitlYou have to do is focus.00:24:52XochitlAbout getting better, you don't really have.00:24:53XochitlTo worry about anything.00:24:56XochitlAnd as Jack and I have talked about before in the US.00:25:00XochitlLike, if you're like the process of it is basically like if you're sick with a cold or something, you would go to a clinic. But if your symptoms are more severe, you would go to urgent care.00:25:13XochitlAnd if your symptoms are like more severe than that, like either life threatening or you can't really take care of yourself, or it could lead to serious complications and you need like emergency testing or imaging or whatever, then you would go to the.00:25:28XochitlER or like?00:25:29XochitlEmergency room and then you may be hospitalized for a couple of days, depending what your situation is.00:25:35XochitlAnd what they see your condition as and like Jack and I have talked about before, it's kind of like a more of a luxury experience. You kind of get your own room.00:25:46JackRight.00:25:50XochitlYou can like order food off a menu now. Just last time I was.00:25:52JackOhh really?00:25:55XochitlYeah, there's an.00:25:55JackOK.00:25:57XochitlI was hospitalized for a couple days. Uh, when was it, Jack? In December. Right. Because I remember. I was new podcast. I talk about for like two or three days in December and they give you like a menu and you tell the nurse what you want and they order for you and they bring it to you and they give you, like, a drink. Like, you can ask for Sprite or apple juice.00:26:18XochitlOr whatever you want.00:26:21XochitlUM and I was just kind of sitting in there. She she asked me if I wanted to turn on the TV. She put SpongeBob on.00:26:32XochitlAnd I was just watching SpongeBob in there with like a Sprite and my dinner. And it was just kind of funny because it was basically like being a kid. And you're kind of being waited on hand and foot.00:26:46XochitlBy the nurse.00:26:48XochitlDoctors and the team, the.00:26:50XochitlCare team are coming in and out and like.00:26:52XochitlAsking questions and maybe they're like phlebotomist or whoever is taking your blood. That's the person.00:26:56XochitlThat like, puts a needle in your arm into your vein and takes your blood out so phlebotomist and then, as like a specialist, might come in and get an EKG on you, which is like a they put little stickers on you where they, like, read.00:27:09XochitlYour heart and your.00:27:11XochitlUM, basically your heart rate, and make sure there's no like heart murmurs or like issues with your heart.00:27:18XochitlAnd yeah, and so nurses do everything. And in Mexico, I would say that's also different, Jack.00:27:25XochitlThe When I went to the public hospital, it's completely free. I had to go twice.00:27:31Xochitl100% free like in the US, it was free for me, but only because I have Medicaid, which is National Health insurance. But if.00:27:39XochitlI were if.00:27:40XochitlI didn't have Medicaid.00:27:41XochitlIt would have been thousands and thousands of dollars.00:27:44XochitlLike probably 10s.00:27:45XochitlOf thousands of dollars to have been there like a couple of nights.00:27:50XochitlIn Mexico, I have no health insurance, but.00:27:55XochitlIt's absolutely free.00:27:57XochitlUM, but it's.00:27:58XochitlReally short staffed.00:28:01XochitlThey have a ton of students in there because there's not like enough doctors or anything, so there's like students trying to take your blood and doing a really terrible job. There's like one nurse running around trying to take care of everyone. There's no rooms. You're all just sitting out in a.00:28:15XochitlHallway and these beds?00:28:17JackRight.00:28:20XochitlYou're not super allowed to have visitors like they're your visitors or people who could visit you.00:28:25XochitlHave to sit in the waiting room, which are just these steel chairs, but they if they like, if the short staff and it's like night time and stuff, they'll let like one person through like the lady who was in front of me, like on her little hospital bed. She was using a bed pan, so they let her mom through so she could.00:28:46XochitlHelp with certain stuff so.00:28:47XochitlShe was like the one emptying out her bedpan, or.00:28:49XochitlLike doing certain things. So I would agree like the.00:28:52XochitlFamily is much more.00:28:53XochitlInvolved and.00:28:54XochitlThe hospital staff was very irritated with me because.00:28:57XochitlI didn't have.00:28:57XochitlAnyone there with me to do certain things like?00:29:02XochitlUM, get like a CD.00:29:04XochitlFor medical imaging or like.00:29:10XochitlGo to the like.00:29:12XochitlWithdraw blood. I didn't like. Go to the lab because it was a weekend and they're they're their lab inside the hospital isn't open on the weekend, so.00:29:19XochitlThey needed like.00:29:20XochitlSomeone to be there and they also don't want to release you from the hospital unless you have someone.00:29:25XochitlThere to pick you up.00:29:26JackRight.00:29:27XochitlAnd and I think all these things come from like collectivist culture, where there's strong family ties, right. So it's like your family, you live close to your family, probably. And your family will be there for you and you'll be there for your family. But in the US, a lot of people will leave for college, move away for work. It's a huge country.00:29:47XochitlA lot of people's families.00:29:48XochitlCan't drive 10 hours or fly five hours or.00:29:51XochitlWhatever out to.00:29:51XochitlWhere they are, and so we're very lucky. Like in your brother's case.00:29:53JackRight.00:29:56XochitlLike you said, he was visiting.00:29:57JackRight.00:29:59XochitlBecause it's such a huge country and people live kind of in Siller, like, isolated from their families, a lot of the times and they live, they move far away from their families.00:30:09XochitlFor the reasons I mentioned, the hospital doesn't really expect.00:30:15XochitlYour family to do any of that. In fact, they would probably be irritated if your family was in there trying.00:30:21XochitlTo take on.00:30:21XochitlAny of these tasks?00:30:24XochitlBecause they see it as like a medical professional's job and not the job of your family, right?00:30:33JackWell, I think families get in the way sometimes, too many questions. There's too many, too many people in the room. You know, it's kind of like, get out, get out of the.00:30:36XochitlYeah, they do.00:30:41JackWay, let us do our job.00:30:44XochitlRight. Yeah, it's pretty bad. What about the culture of visiting someone in the hospital, Jack, what would?00:30:50XochitlYou say that's like.00:30:52JackYeah. So that one's a little different. Like what we're describing is kind of the long term care part of the hospital. But if you just receive a visitor, there are in America, there are visiting hours. And so, you know, people can come in and it's usually during a time when.00:31:13JackThe nurses are not performing some kind of.00:31:18JackSome kind of job, you know, if they're, if they have to take blood or they have to do it, run a test or something, then they don't want any visitors in there. Visiting hours are only during the daytime. Now if you're a family member, they'll give you an exemption so they'll they'll bring it a a kind of sleeping chair if.00:31:37JackBut you know for like for example, my mother wanted if she wanted to stay with my father overnight there, she could have slept there.00:31:47JackThey she only lives 5 minutes away, so they just decided to go home and and sleep and then come back to the hospital. But but when it comes to just like visiting someone in the hospital, you you know you you you check in you you say who you want.00:32:08JackTo to visit, they make sure that you are that that the person who is in the hospital, who's sick, wants to see you. You know they're not gonna let anyone in. That makes the patient uncomfortable or feel more stress.00:32:26JackAnd and uh. And then you can come in and you can. You can spend a short amount of time, you know, just, you know, giving what we call in English, we say moral support, you know, just cheering up, lifting the spirits of the patient, the person who is sick.00:32:45JackBut yeah, it I think they're they're very strict about visiting hours and the amount of time that people are able to, to, to see the, the, their, their friend who is in the hospital because they have.00:33:01JackA job to.00:33:01JackDo and they don't.00:33:03JackWant any of that visiting to get in the way of what they need to do to make this person healthy? Because the number one objective is to get this person.00:33:15JackStable and in the recovery process and you know, and so oftentimes nurses get a bad reputation for being kind of mean.00:33:27JackYou know what I mean? Like, OK, now you get outta here. It's you're done. You know, it's like leave. Leave him alone. Let let him. Let him sleep. Let her sleep. And so it's it's kind you get kind of. They get a little bit of a bad reputation for that, but I think it's just because they need to be forceful.00:33:46JackOtherwise, family members and and friends will just kind of be hanging out there in the house.00:33:52JackPeople, and they don't want a lot of people hanging out in the hospital. Number one, they can bring in illnesses and you know, diseases and stuff like that. So if if one of those visitors is sick, that could hurt the the patient. It could also hurt other people who are in the hospital and a lot of.00:34:12JackYou don't when you're in the hospital.00:34:14JackAnd you're let's say.00:34:17JackIn a not in a room, but like.00:34:20JackYou know how to.00:34:21JackHave, like the curtains, a kind of a curtain room.00:34:25XochitlRight. It's like you're in. You're all in the same room, but you're separated.00:34:28XochitlBy privacy curtain.00:34:29JackPrivacy curtains. That's what I was looking for. And.00:34:34JackYou don't want you you've you're very.00:34:36JackVulnerable. You know, you're you're half naked, you know, like you're wearing a just a a hospital gown.00:34:44JackYou, you, you. You know you don't, you don't you you don't present well, you your you look sick. Your hair is a mess. You're not wearing makeup or whatever and.00:34:58JackThose people, they.00:34:59JackDon't want to be seen by a lot of.00:35:04JackOther strangers you know, because you know, I'm just thinking like, especially when like, kids come to the hospital, they're curious you.00:35:12JackKnow they want to look around and.00:35:15JackAnd see, you know, who are these other people and what's wrong with them? And that makes the patients uncomfortable. So I I think the reason there is a very strict rules about who can come in and for how long they can stay is not is, it's not about punishing the the.00:35:34JackPatient or the visitors, it's about making the other patients comfortable as well. And so I I kind of like the American system. I think it's because like you, you.00:35:45JackKnow in your situation.00:35:47JackYou didn't. You didn't have any immediate family there with you.00:35:50JackAt that time, I didn't.00:35:53JackThere should be some kind of.00:35:56JackProtocol for those situations, it shouldn't just be like, well, I guess that's, you know that that sucks for you. There's, you know, sorry you don't have anyone here to help you. It's like, you know, it's like, what am I supposed to do? You know, I I I thought it was just a very bizarre.00:36:09XochitlRight.00:36:16JackSituation I I was in a hospital. It was so funny. There was a TV, but there was a it was coin operated so.00:36:25JackYou had to actually get out of bed.00:36:28JackGo put coins into the TV.00:36:33JackAnd then it would turn on and you could buy.00:36:36JackI think maybe $0.50 would buy you.00:36:40Jack30 minutes of television.00:36:42JackSomething like that and.00:36:45JackAnd I didn't even have anyone to.00:36:47JackPut the coins.00:36:47JackIn the TV for me, you know, because it was like, you know, not the nurse's job to do that. So it it was just a very strange experience for me.00:37:00JackAnd I I I just was kind of, I didn't expect it. You know, it's one of those things when you live in another country.00:37:08JackUM, you can't predict everything.00:37:11XochitlRight.00:37:13JackAnd you just always assume that it's going to be the same as your country.00:37:18XochitlRay's really prepared for those kind of situations.00:37:22JackYeah, you just and and it's the funniest little.00:37:25JackSituations just like like I said, like the food where they just put the the food on the on the table. That was like far away from my bed. And I'm like, hello is what am I what? How do I eat this?00:37:39JackAnd yeah, it was just a very, very strange experience. And I'm not saying it's a bad experience. I think it's great that you, that family members are expected to kind of step up and do some of that work because I think nurses are overburdened with with too many things anyway.00:37:59JackUM, but I do think that like exceptions should be made when people don't have family members, because there are going to be situations where.00:38:10JackThere you know you have a patient that doesn't have, maybe they don't have any family left. Maybe their family is all passed away or they didn't, never had kids or who knows, it could be a whole host of reasons why there's you don't have someone there to help you or there should be like a service where you can hire.00:38:30JackAnd like a a helper.00:38:33JackYou know and.00:38:35XochitlThey do have that now. I think that you can get a private nurse now in Korea. I heard that you can.00:38:40XochitlPay a private nurse.00:38:41JackOhh. OK OK, maybe that would have been the right way for that. That would have been very useful for me. I just didn't know beforehand. So yeah, just.00:38:50발표자I don't know.00:38:51XochitlIf it was possible back then, or if it's just become more of a thing because a lot of people like move away from college now and there's more foreigners in the country and there's just like, I guess after years of situations where there was a patient that couldn't take care of themselves, they changed it a little bit. So you can like hire on.00:39:08XochitlOne recently I think you can hire on a nurse like a private.00:39:13XochitlNurse. But you would have.00:39:15XochitlTo pay additional money. And it's just kind of sucks in a way, because.00:39:20XochitlUM.00:39:22XochitlYou wouldn't really have.00:39:23XochitlTo worry about that, I guess like in the US like it's just included.00:39:28XochitlAnd they're charging you bazooka box.00:39:30XochitlAnother way to say a.00:39:31JackYeah, the money you're paying in America, you deserve a a whole private staff, a Butler, a maid.00:39:31XochitlLot of but like.00:39:40XochitlAnd the nurse that's working as a Butler and the made basically. And the medical professional, they're doing a lot so.00:39:47XochitlThat does make it really hard.00:39:50XochitlBut yeah, I think with in Korea that's one aspect I thought about getting the surgery I was going to get.00:39:58XochitlIn Korea, because it's so.00:40:00XochitlMuch cheaper, but then I realized.00:40:02XochitlLike I'd have to spend money for, like my mom or something to come out because.00:40:07XochitlAnd at that point, it's like I'm not saving that much money because I basically have to pay lodging for my mom, and I'd have to pay a plane ticket for her cause I'd need someone to take care of me because.00:40:17XochitlThe nurse isn't really.00:40:18XochitlGoing to do it or again, you could hire a private nurse. But again, that's also adding to your expenses. So that's just something to consider.00:40:25XochitlAnd it's like if you are going to move to a foreign country, I guess it's something to look into because it is shocking how different those experiences can be.00:40:34JackYeah. And you never know when you're gonna need, you know, I mean, I I had a a. Like I said I I had a back surgery at that time and it was a a ruptured disc in my spine and yeah. So I was in the hospital for several days. And I remember just gritting my teeth.00:40:55JackAnd uh.00:40:57JackTrying to get out of there as fast as I could. Like I went home after.00:41:02JackWay too fast. You know, I was just like, OK, if if no one's gonna help me, I can do. I can do.00:41:09JackThis at home. Then you know it'll be easier. And so I actually just.00:41:18JackIt's made me kind of pretended like I was doing better than I than I was with the doctor. You know, I was up.00:41:25JackWalking around and.00:41:27JackAnd how do?00:41:28JackYou feel ohh feel.00:41:29JackGreat. You know, but I didn't.00:41:33XochitlTo be at home.00:41:34JackI just wanted to get out of there because I was like, you know what, like, if, if if I'm going to do it all on my own.00:41:40JackAnyway, might as well be in my own apartment like there really is no reason for me to to, to be in this hospital. And so that was the one thing that kind of turned me off to it. The thing that I did like was they're very competent. They're very nice. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't a bad experience. It was just.00:42:00JackIt was one of those culture shock moments and and yeah there it's it's very interesting. Like I just what the expectations are from country to country and so you know I'd really like love to hear from our listeners out there like what is it like in your country?00:42:04XochitlRight.00:42:19JackBecause, you know, do they do the nurses like, what are the what's what are what are the job duties of of a nurse in other countries? Because I I bet it's some of them are similar to Korea and some are probably similar to the United States.00:42:39XochitlRight. It's like.00:42:39JackYeah, I'd be really interested.00:42:41XochitlOur nurses. Yeah. I want to hear from you listeners, our nurses, you know, expected to take on duties like the US. Or is there other hospital staff that takes the place of a nurse or patients kind of left to fend for their own if they don't have any family? Like, does family have responsibilities? What's the protocol for?00:43:01XochitlVisiting sick family. Yeah, we would really like to hear from you guys, so make sure to leave a comment down below at A-Z. Inversepodcast.com shoot us an e-mail at AZ englishpodcast@gmail.com.00:43:13XochitlAnd join our WhatsApp only chat groups to join the conversation and let Jack and I.00:43:17XochitlKnow what's it?00:43:17XochitlLike in your country. 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In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Xochitl and Jack share some of their regrets.Transcript:00:00:01JackWelcome to the A to Z English podcast. My name is Jack and I'm here with my co-host social. And today we have a topic talk topic talk episode for you and the topic of today's talk is regrets and such. I'm just wondering, do you have is there anything that you like, any big regrets that you have?00:00:22JackYou know, as far as like maybe not pursuing something that you had a talent for or being afraid to do something and and you know just kind of thinking back and regretting it.00:00:34XochitlYeah, I personally think as far as pursuing.00:00:38XochitlLike career options and things I used to kind of regret not pursuing music when I was younger, but then I realized that I'm only 27 and essentially if you're a musician and you're actually talented you there's you don't have like, an expiration date for creating music. And I think opportunities.00:00:48JackYou're very, you know.00:00:59XochitlOn your way, when you're ready.00:01:01XochitlAnd you're when you're ready to take.00:01:03XochitlThose opportunities, that's when.00:01:07XochitlYou can make something of it.00:01:09XochitlSo I don't really have any regrets.00:01:13XochitlIn that facet.00:01:15발표자Uh, I have.00:01:17XochitlI have two.00:01:20XochitlRegrets that I would say.00:01:23Xochitl11 I'm not this one sounds very depressing.00:01:27XochitlBut it's really it's.00:01:28XochitlReally not. I I'm not hurt by it.00:01:31XochitlOr anything. I just. I wish I had gotten to see my grandfather one last time.00:01:34XochitlBefore he passed.00:01:37XochitlUM, but he was so kind of far gone because he had pretty severe dementia at that point, and I think I just learned from the experience, you know, make the most of the people you care about while they're in your life because you just never know.00:01:54XochitlWhen someone can pass away or you never know when they'll still be alive, but they'll be so affected by dementia or health condition or something that you won't be able to relate to them the same way that you used to.00:02:07XochitlAnd in your own.00:02:07발표자Right.00:02:07XochitlLife also like.00:02:08XochitlDon't wait to do anything because you just health is never guaranteed.00:02:14JackRight, absolutely.00:02:15XochitlUM, so I learned a lot from it and I'm not, you know, deeply hurt by it anymore. But I just wish that I could have seen him one.00:02:23XochitlLast time before he passed.00:02:25XochitlUM and the other regret that I have this one, like probably a little personal for the podcast, but I don't mind sharing it because I think in my inspire other people to get the help they need.00:02:36XochitlI I just started taking antidepressants like a month ago, and I so wish I had taken antidepressants years ago. I think this is one of the things where it's like when you're not ready, it won't really matter anyway, so it's OK. It's OK that I waited so long to take them.00:02:56JackBut I think.00:02:57XochitlFor other people who are on the fence and I have really bad health anxiety and stuff, and I'm scared of the side effects, I think for anyone else who's on the fence and really terrified of side effects of getting.00:03:07XochitlHelp for their mental health, I would say.00:03:11XochitlJust do it because.00:03:13XochitlI have friends who got help when they were much younger. Well, we're still all young, but just years ago and they're in a better place now and I'm kind of just now getting.00:03:24XochitlTo the place.00:03:24XochitlWhere they're at because I.00:03:26XochitlJust now started getting help, so it's kind of that's one thing that I would say.00:03:32XochitlI don't particularly regret it because I don't think.00:03:35XochitlI was ready.00:03:35XochitlAt the time, but I wish maybe I had.00:03:38XochitlJust tried it sooner.00:03:39JackYeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I I, I'll share my story. I've been on antidepressants for.00:03:49Jack10 years since I was 291516 years. So for anxiety and panic attacks. So and I. You know, I don't regret that because I got help right away. You know I didn't wait. I was like alright, I need to.00:04:08JackDeal with this.00:04:09JackLike I'm I'm not gonna be ashamed of it. Even though in Korea, you know, it's something.00:04:18JackThat you're supposed.00:04:19JackAnd people used to be more ashamed of. Now it's it's becoming much more open. Yeah, people are. It's OK.00:04:22발표자Please signify.00:04:25JackTo talk about it now in Korea, but.00:04:27JackTen years ago, 15 years ago.00:04:29JackYou kept it to yourself. You know, you definitely didn't share it on a podcast, you know? But but I think it's it's never. It's never a bad thing to ask for help to get some help. You know, it's a tough it's tough out there.00:04:48JackSo, so, so good for you for, you know, like. But I don't think you need to regret, you know, doing it earlier. I think maybe you were you were you do it when you're ready.00:04:58JackYou know, so.00:04:59XochitlYeah. I think for June.00:05:01JackYeah, uhm, my regrets. I you know, I I try not to regret too much. I try.00:05:07JackNot to ruminate.00:05:09JackI think that that can also affect.00:05:11JackYour your current mental.00:05:12JackHealth but.00:05:13XochitlIt's just toxic.00:05:14XochitlTo roommate for your own mental health, yeah.00:05:16JackExactly. Exactly. And.00:05:17JackBut but I I'm not, you know.00:05:19JackWe're, we brought this topic up.00:05:21JackSo that we could ruminate.00:05:22JackYou know.00:05:23발표자Right.00:05:24JackBut but but I'm I'm trying to think of some examples of things that I would I would change and I think like one of the things I.00:05:32JackWould change is music.00:05:34JackI would have started playing the guitar when I was younger and I would have taken like proper lessons and I I I wonder just in the back of my mind like how how good I could have been if I'd have actually put in the the work and the time learning the basics with the with the proper teacher.00:05:55JackAnd I just, I don't know why I.00:05:57JackWas just wasting my.00:05:58JackTime. You know, sitting there basically like, you know, throwing a ball against the wall in my bedroom for hours. You know, when I could have been bettering myself. So, you know, I, I I wonder about those things. The other regret that I have is I regret.00:06:19JackWasting so much time at the pub, you know, going to the bars in my 20.00:06:24JackI probably spent a decade of my life just sitting around and, you know, hanging out with the guys, drinking some beer and just wasting time. And it wasn't until I, you know, got married and and kind of got serious where I started.00:06:45JackYou know, lots of good things started happening to me. I went back to school, I got a Masters degree. I was.00:06:50JackWriting course books.00:06:52JackI was, you know, all these these really amazing things started to happen to me, and it all became because I I got out of that habit of just going, you know, spending every weekend, you know, at the pub so.00:07:08JackI think those are my big regrets.00:07:09JackJust wasting time, you know? Time lost.00:07:13JackBut like you.00:07:14JackSaid, you know, there's, it's never too late to.00:07:16JackTo to to, you know, to go take a guitar lesson even when you're 47 years old. Like, why? Why? Why should that prevent me from doing it? So I think I have to kind of think of it that way.00:07:29XochitlOn building a scale and there's no time limit on being a musician. Truly.00:07:35XochitlYou can create music for your whole life, so if you want to go back and and take a guitar lesson or whatever, just do it. And I don't think that it's it's too late by any means and the IT to build the skill. It's just a hobby and you'll have a little more time now because your daughter is going to be moving on to College in a few years.00:07:57XochitlUM and.00:08:00XochitlThat just gives you some time to work on some hobbies and stuff that maybe you didn't.00:08:03XochitlQuite have before.00:08:05JackYeah. Yeah, that's right. That's right.00:08:07XochitlYes. And then?00:08:09XochitlYeah. You're gonna be an empty nester. So gotta get.00:08:11XochitlInto the.00:08:12XochitlGotta pick up some hobbies now.00:08:14JackYeah, well, podcasting is my hobby. Yeah.00:08:17XochitlThat's true. Another.00:08:18XochitlHobby, though, on top of the testing because podcasting.00:08:21XochitlIs like a work pretty much for you, it's.00:08:24XochitlFun but you.00:08:25XochitlDo you do put a lot of work?00:08:25JackJob a jobby we call it.00:08:27JackA jobby.00:08:28XochitlYeah, it is a.00:08:28XochitlDobby for you, that's a funny word.00:08:32XochitlAnd the other thing that you regret, I don't think you should regret spending a decade in pubs with Your Bros. That's kind of what your 20s are for. Yeah, when you got married and you stepped up to the plate as a married man and everything.00:08:48XochitlThings went a certain way professionally because you're ready for that to.00:08:51XochitlHappen then you're ready to take on the responsibility of being married and.00:08:55XochitlAll of those.00:08:55XochitlThings, and I think that that's a great thing, but I don't think you should regret.00:08:59JackYeah, I I did have good times. Yeah, but.00:09:01XochitlYou need to get there.00:09:04JackI I guess it it would be much.00:09:05JackWorse, if I were still, you know, if I'd had done 30s and 40s in the pub as well, you know then.00:09:10XochitlYeah, that wouldn't.00:09:11XochitlBe great. I mean, if you were still. Yeah, that's a waste of lifetime. It's not like. Yeah, so, you know. Yeah, I I wouldn't regret that now because it's like a it's an essential part of your 20s to go out and.00:09:11JackThat's a wasted life plans.00:09:23XochitlHave I I?00:09:24XochitlBelieve that if you hadn't had some like that in your 20s, you would regret it now more than if you had had fun.00:09:30JackThat's true. Found it just, you know, been just a workaholic in in my 20s and.00:09:35JackAnd I I don't know. Yeah, I I I wonder, you know, it's just like it's such a I was such a different person. Like I'm I'm so unrecognizable from my 20s to my 40s.00:09:46XochitlWell, that's a good thing to hear because.00:09:48XochitlIt means there's.00:09:48XochitlLike a lot.00:09:49XochitlOf hopefully a lot of good things.00:09:51XochitlIn the future yet.00:09:52XochitlTo come for.00:09:53JackOh yeah, yeah. The best is coming, right. You, you, you you really blossom when you you hit your 30s. You know, it's like when you.00:09:58JackFind your stride.00:10:00JackYou know, 20s is still about a time of figuring things out, so you don't need it.00:10:05XochitlCan't wait.00:10:05JackAll you know, buttoned up and in your 20s.00:10:11XochitlAll right, listeners, let us know, do you have any regrets? And they don't have to be big or painful stories like you can share those. But even just simple regrets, let us know in the comments at AZ englishpodcast.com and a comment down below. Let us shoot us.00:10:25XochitlAn e-mail at AZ.00:10:27XochitlEnglishpodcast@gmail.com and join our.00:10:29XochitlWe chat or WhatsApp.00:10:30XochitlWhoops, to join the conversations, we will see you guys next.00:10:32XochitlTime. 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In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Xochitl and Jack play a game to see how well they know each other. Keep score as you listen because we lost track during the early portion of the game. lol!Transcript:00:00:01JackWelcome to the A to Z English podcast. My name is Jack and I am here today with my co-host social. And today we're going to do a topic talk game edition and this one the game is social. This is really easy. It's how well do you know your podcasting partner so?00:00:20XochitlI'm sure I'm going to feel this one miserably because like I, I have a very poor memory.00:00:28XochitlAnd Jack has a pretty good memory, so I'm waiting to feel this one miserably.00:00:33JackYou're also. You're also very open. You know what?00:00:36JackI mean like you share.00:00:37JackA lot of personal anecdotes and stories and things like that. So along the way I'm able to, you know, pick up little pieces of of of your your life.00:00:47JackSorry and I think I'm maybe more closed off or you know, a a colder, more Stonewall individual, you know, so.00:00:57XochitlMaybe yeah, I have. I have picked up things throughout the time, but usually question that I ask you and then you share, so it's.00:01:06XochitlLike I.00:01:07JackYeah, it's not just.00:01:08발표자Think you know?00:01:10JackYeah, sharing is caring.00:01:13JackAlright, here we go.00:01:13발표자You know.00:01:16JackThe first one, what's your? What's my?00:01:18JackLast name social.00:01:19XochitlOh, McBain, that's easy.00:01:21JackOK. And your last name is muterspaw. OK and you have two names actually it says now here's the bonus question. What's your middle name?00:01:24XochitlYes, that's right.00:01:33JackSo what's my middle name?00:01:36XochitlWhat is your real name, Daniel?00:01:40JackYou're so close. You're so close.00:01:42XochitlI'm really close, I'm actually close.00:01:43XochitlOh my God, Donald.00:01:45발표자Yes. How did you know that?00:01:47XochitlI don't know you just you kind of seemed like a Daniel and he said.00:01:50XochitlIt was close and I.00:01:51XochitlThought, but it kind of like, I don't know. I just kind of.00:01:54XochitlCame to me. Am I psychic?00:01:55JackThat's amazing. My middle name is Donald. I'm Jack. Donald McBain? Yeah.00:02:00XochitlWow, that's really cool. I feel like a psychic now. It's like you better watch out. I have magical powers.00:02:03JackThat that was.00:02:05JackThat was freaky. That was.00:02:08JackI'm going to guess your middle name is Emily, but because you have two names, you have social as your your ethnic Mexican name. Or is it a Mexican name? You said it was actually like.00:02:24XochitlIs masters and it's indigenous, yeah.00:02:24JackAztecs. Yeah. Indigenous. Thank you. That was the word I'm looking for. Is Emily considered your middle name then?00:02:32XochitlIt's kind of a trick question on me. I'm actually Emily social and not social Emily, but I.00:02:38XochitlGo by my middle name.00:02:40JackOK.00:02:41JackOK, so I got it. I got it flipped around. OK. Emily. Social. Yeah, I mean, social is such a cool name. I totally get why you use that.00:02:50XochitlI was. I just grew up being called social onlys at home. The only reason that Emily was my first name or is my first name is because my parents, since I grew up in the US, mostly they wanted, like, be like teachers and stuff to be able to say a name if they couldn't pronounce social. So.00:03:10XochitlUmm. Or couldn't wrap their brains around it, so that was really why I had Emily. But I don't use it, like, ever pretty and I and I also use school. I used social too. I didn't want to use Emily.00:03:23JackHow many teachers were like in the first day of class were?00:03:26JackLike Chuck, Chuck, Chuck, chital.00:03:29XochitlYeah, no one could. They didn't know at all. They would just as soon as there was a long, uncomfortable pause. I knew it was.00:03:29JackYou know something like that, like.00:03:35XochitlMy name and I would just pipe up.00:03:36JackYou just you say it. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's really actually, once you say your name, it's so easy to say, you know, like, so chill. It's just super simple.00:03:46JackBut it's just hard to read a.00:03:48JackLittle bit, when you when you don't know.00:03:49XochitlYeah, but if you're not familiar with the fanatics of.00:03:54XochitlAztec names, then. Yeah, it's definitely very hard. It doesn't look like anything we have, like in English phonetics. So.00:04:01JackYeah, yeah, yeah, it does it. It does look challenging, but it's actually really easy to to pronounce. OK, so I'm going to give you a point, and I'm going to take one away from me. So 01, which US state did you grow up in? I'm going to say you grew up in Iowa. Do you know where I go?00:04:20XochitlWell, I kind of grew up in Iowa well.00:04:22발표자I'll give you a.00:04:23XochitlBonus point back if you know the 2nd state.00:04:24JackOh, I'm going to say sorry. I'm going to say you.00:04:26JackGrew up in Iowa and Kentucky.00:04:28XochitlYes, you got it. You got.00:04:30발표자It yeah. Check.00:04:32XochitlOK I I am pretty sure I'm wrong but I don't know why. I want to say this but it's like no, no, Jack. You told you talked about where you grew up so many times and yet I'm about.00:04:43XochitlTo get it.00:04:44XochitlWrong. I want to say Nebraska, but I'm like that's not right.00:04:47발표자That's not right.00:04:48발표자It's like it's it's.00:04:48JackIt is in the Midwest, though. It's in.00:04:50JackThe Midwest.00:04:50XochitlIt's really fast. It's in the Midwest and I know I'm wait. Give me a second. OK? I know it's not Iowa, Illinois, Idaho or Ohio.00:05:00XochitlAnd it's in the Midwest and it's not Nebraska.00:05:06XochitlOne second.00:05:08XochitlLet me you know, just give me a.00:05:10XochitlCouple more seconds I.00:05:11JackYeah, and.00:05:12JackFor our listeners out.00:05:12XochitlOhh Minnesota, it's Minnesota. It's Minnesota, Minnesota.00:05:12JackThere, I know that she's looking. She's looking at.00:05:15JackThat. Yeah, that's right.00:05:16JackThat's right. I was. I'm from Minnesota. And you are from kind of Kentucky, Iowa. And for a bonus question, which city?00:05:18발표자Thank you.00:05:28XochitlI think I actually.00:05:29JackSeating, you know, because I think you live in Iowa City right now, but.00:05:36JackKentucky, I'm gonna say.00:05:42JackLike the suburbs of Lexington? Something like that.00:05:45XochitlNo, not the suburbs I used.00:05:46XochitlTo live downtown Lexington.00:05:48JackOh, you lived in downtown Lexington. OK, OK.00:05:51JackI don't think you're gonna get my city. I mean, I'll. I'll give it to you. I'll. I'll give you like the uh, I'll, I'll be flexible.00:05:58XochitlWhat's the 1st letter?00:06:04XochitlOK. Interesting.00:06:16JackThat's a pretty good guess, actually. I'm from.00:06:18JackWhite Bear Lake.00:06:20XochitlNo, that was my second guess. So it's gonna be.00:06:22XochitlLike right there? No.00:06:25발표자So close.00:06:27JackI'm from White Bear Lake.00:06:28JackBut White Bear Lake is a suburb of Saint Paul, so if you'd have said.00:06:31JackSaint Paul, I would have.00:06:32XochitlDang. And Saint Paul is.00:06:32JackI would have given you that.00:06:33XochitlGoing to be what I was going to.00:06:34XochitlSay originally, but when?00:06:35XochitlYou said W like it's not Saint Paul. I was gonna.00:06:37XochitlFreaking so cool. Alright, fine. Take my plate.00:06:40JackI'll give you the I'll give it to you, OK?00:06:41JackSo you got two points and I'm gonna give my.00:06:44XochitlNo, no. Take it. Take.00:06:45XochitlIt I don't deserve that one. Take that.00:06:46JackOK, OK.00:06:48JackOne. Alright, alright.00:06:49JackI'll, I'll let our listeners can add up our points.00:06:51JackHere, tell us what we got.00:06:54Jack#3 how many brothers and sisters?00:06:55XochitlThat listeners, if you want to play along, you can also submit.00:06:58XochitlIt in the WhatsApp group like.00:07:00XochitlYour answers does it go along and then at the end you'll see how.00:07:03JackMany points you got. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's good.00:07:06JackThat's good. Play along.00:07:09JackSee how well you know us. How?00:07:11JackMany brothers and sisters, do you have I you have one sister?00:07:15JackAnd she is an older.00:07:17JackSister, because you are the youngest.00:07:20XochitlYeah, that's right, Jack.00:07:21발표자OK.00:07:23발표자The value.00:07:23XochitlJack, you have.00:07:25XochitlLike four siblings, don't you?00:07:29XochitlWrong again. No, I know you have.00:07:32XochitlAn older brother.00:07:35XochitlAnd a younger brother.00:07:39XochitlJack does scream middle child.00:07:41XochitlSyndrome, kind of.00:07:44XochitlNo, Jack, I don't know. I thought it was 4, but it's not you. You're.00:07:48XochitlOne of four. So you have three siblings.00:07:52JackAll right. I have one younger brother. That's it.00:07:52발표자I'm wrong?00:07:57XochitlWait, wait, no.00:07:57XochitlJack, that's not real. That can't be real. You only have one younger brother.00:08:01JackI have only young one younger brother, just two of us. Yeah. I grew up with a younger brother and uh mom and dad. Yeah, that's it. Jack and Jay and Mom and Dad.00:08:12XochitlThat's weird. I could have sworn you had like four siblings or you were.00:08:16XochitlOne of four.00:08:17JackMaybe I wonder if I just have that energy or something like a big family energy, but no.00:08:23XochitlYeah, because I.00:08:24발표자We're we're pretty small.00:08:25XochitlYeah, you kind of do have big family. You also have middle Childs energy. You don't really have oldest brother energy.00:08:32JackYeah, I've.00:08:33발표자I've just been.00:08:33XochitlI say that kindly.00:08:33JackMuch worse, yeah.00:08:35XochitlMy mom is a is a middle child, you know? And so yeah, you don't have that weird, like, competitive. My sister's an older child. You don't have that weird like older sibling. And so I.00:08:46XochitlThought you know.00:08:46JackYeah, I know what you're talking about too. Like, I'm I'm kind of a negotiator too, like, naturally, like, I want everyone to be happy. I'm. I'm.00:08:54JackA people closer.00:08:55JackWhich is a middle child kind of quality.00:08:57XochitlYeah. And you're not, like, very boastful or very like, like, eccentric or very like.00:09:06XochitlEgocentric either. So I kind of thought, you know, middle child, sort of.00:09:09JackYeah. Yeah, well, that's OK, that's good. I'm. I'm glad I have the middle child vibes in the older, older brother, but I used to be a tyrant. Like I'll, I'll admit it. Like I I melt about big time, you know. But in high school, ask my little brother if I was pleasant to be around. He would not agree.00:09:32JackName your sibling. OK so.00:09:37JackSocial I have no idea.00:09:40JackWhat your sister's name is.00:09:43XochitlI know what yours is because you said Jay.00:09:45JackRight, right. Right. That's right, Jay.00:09:48JackWhat is? What could your social.00:09:53JackI see. I don't even know. Like, does. I wonder if your sister has an.00:09:56JackAztec name as well. She probably does she.00:09:58발표자She doesn't.00:10:00JackIf she doesn't. Ohh Emily and Erica.00:10:09발표자OK.00:10:09XochitlIt's not a, it's it. It is a.00:10:11XochitlName in the.00:10:12XochitlEnglish language but.00:10:13XochitlIt's very uncommon and it's it's a little more common in Hispanic and black communities.00:10:23XochitlI don't think you're even going to.00:10:24XochitlTry at this point.00:10:24JackNo, no. Yeah. Now, now I'm in now.00:10:27JackI mean dangerous territory. So let's shift the.00:10:30JackYeah, just tell me.00:10:33JackYolanda. Yeah, that makes sense, right?00:10:38JackOK, OK.00:10:41JackEmily and Yolanda, that's interesting because, you know, sometimes parents will try to match. You know what I mean? Like Emily and Emma. Erica.00:10:49XochitlWell, our party did cause no one calls me Emily. They call me social. So it's like social and Yolanda and it's X&Y. Actually, they're alpha. They come next to each other.00:11:00XochitlIn alphabet.00:11:01JackNo, that's that's what it is.00:11:02발표자I don't think.00:11:02XochitlMy parents knew my parents did not realize this, but it's.00:11:05XochitlJust what happened?00:11:06JackOh, OK.00:11:06XochitlAnd my sister.00:11:07XochitlNamed after my grandmother on my mom's side.00:11:12JackOK, OK.00:11:12JackYeah, cool. Alright. Yeah, that is, that is like a a common in the African American community. But also it has a Spanish kind of rude to it. Yeah. Interesting. OK cool. Alright.00:11:28JackWe'll do 2.00:11:29JackMore questions and then we'll save the the last five for next episode.00:11:33JackBecause it's otherwise, this episode is going to be half an hour long.00:11:38JackWhat's your university, major?00:11:41XochitlI know yours.00:11:43JackOh, you. You're an English major, right?00:11:45XochitlUh, yeah, your communications major.00:11:47JackYeah, OK, we got it. We got.00:11:49JackIt name the university.00:11:54JackYou went to a, you went to.00:11:55JackA liberal arts school, but I I know, I know it's a good school, but it is a a small school.00:12:04JackUM, am I right?00:12:07XochitlYes, it is a small school and it's also academically prestigious.00:12:11JackYeah, yeah.00:12:14JackThe thing is, I just I I think he went to school in Kentucky if I'm.00:12:18JackNot mistaken, right?00:12:20JackOhh no, it wasn't in Kentucky. Ohh OK.00:12:25JackI have. I'm sorry, I have no idea.00:12:27XochitlIt's OK. I don't know if I ever talk.00:12:30XochitlAbout it, it's Grinnell College in Grinnell, IA, so GRINN.00:12:34XochitlELL.00:12:35발표자Oh yeah, OK, yeah.00:12:37JackYou have talked about that. Yeah, actually, I'm not familiar with it, but I know that there's lots of really good little like liberal arts schools that in like, for example, there's one.00:12:51JackWhat is it? What's it called? I'm, I'm totally blanking. Sorry. In Minnesota, there's there's a couple of of pretty prestigious small liberal arts colleges, and mine is Northwestern, but not the north.00:13:06XochitlNo, I was not going to guess it.00:13:08JackNot the northwestern that you thought that you're thinking of right now, not that one. Uh, I went to a small liberal arts College in St. Paul, MN called Northwestern College. Now it's called Northwestern University, but it had so on my degree it looks like I went to Northwestern. But.00:13:28JackNo one really thinks you know about the difference that there's another northwestern that's not the one in in Illinois. And so yeah.00:13:37XochitlRight.00:13:39JackSo it's kind of kind of nice, yeah.00:13:39XochitlSame when I.00:13:40XochitlWhen I tell people I went to Grinnell, people think I say Cornell, which is a really famous college and I'm like.00:13:47XochitlNo, that's not where I'm going. It is procedures.00:13:49XochitlBut not that.00:13:50XochitlProcedure. I was gonna guess you were, but.00:13:50발표자Right, right, right.00:13:51발표자And I'm like.00:13:53XochitlI'm still gonna guess wrong. I was gonna say Metropolitan State University in Saint Paul.00:13:58JackOhh. OK. No, no. Yeah, I went to I.00:14:00JackDid go to school?00:14:00XochitlOhh Nick Alistair is in St. Paul, MN. McAllister is a famous liberal.00:14:05JackYet McAllister is a very, very famous, prestigious school, and they they were in our basketball conference actually. So we used to play basketball at McAllister every year.00:14:15XochitlI believe I got accepted to McAllister as well, but I didn't go.00:14:18JackWow, that's you. I would never have gotten accepted into McAllister.00:14:24XochitlYeah, I got. I did get accepted into Mets Michael, so I got I. Now that I remember. I got accepted everywhere I applied except for I got waitlisted that.00:14:32XochitlDylan, I believe.00:14:34JackOK. OK. Yeah, that's that's.00:14:35XochitlBut everywhere else I got accepted, including McAllister.00:14:39JackFantastic. Yeah. That's a great school. Peter Berg, movie director went, went to that school.00:14:47JackOK, let's see here. We've got one more, OK.00:14:52JackLast question, what is your go to comfort food? Is it sweet, salty or savory?00:15:04XochitlJack, I think yours is savory.00:15:08JackOh, I would say I'm.00:15:10JackI'm more of a sweet I go. I go to this.00:15:13XochitlNo, I failed once more of.00:15:16XochitlYour sweet tooth. Ohh, no, no.00:15:17JackYeah, I have a sweet tooth. A bad sweet tooth. Yeah. Yeah. Which my wife finds, like, kind of, you know, odd for a man. A man like in Korean men don't really eat sweets. You.00:15:26XochitlAnd then.00:15:28XochitlOh, that's. That's like a weird genre thing. It's like.00:15:32XochitlI can't even have a sweet.00:15:33XochitlTooth I, you know.00:15:34JackShe's like, it's not. It's not very manly to have a.00:15:36JackSweet tooth and like, yeah.00:15:37XochitlOhh OK of all the countries because when I was in Korea, one thing that I found really wild was.00:15:42XochitlThat people would.00:15:43XochitlOnly tell me.00:15:44XochitlLike their boyfriend or whoever they were with was like, you don't want to get on a roller coaster with them. Scared of getting on a roller coaster. And I was like, I never met a man like in the US or in Mexico that would admit that they were scared to go on a roller.00:15:57XochitlYes, Sir. But in Korea, that's normal.00:15:58JackOh yeah.00:16:00XochitlSo I'm like the gender is is like it's totally different. You know what I mean? So it's funny how sweet tooth thing.00:16:05XochitlIs like.00:16:06XochitlIs a weird. It's not.00:16:07JackI just think.00:16:08JackIt's like we're all human. Like I'm like, I just. I have a sweet tooth. Like, it's terrible. It's really dangerous. I think yours is savory. You told me that your your grandfather, you're on your mother's side. Used to make a very.00:16:24JackTraditional Stew is a very savory Stew, and that was one of your favorite comfort food.00:16:30XochitlYeah, that is my favorite food of all time.00:16:32XochitlYeah, I am.00:16:33XochitlA favorite girl and you know another thing.00:16:35XochitlThat I will just eat.00:16:36XochitlA tiny not I'm not just like eating huge spoonful of it, but I'll blend and paste right out of the container.00:16:43JackYeah, yeah, I know.00:16:45JackWhat you're talking is it you, Sam Chung or Dwayne Chung?00:16:47JackLike Gwen Chung.00:16:49JackWow, that's super salty. Yeah.00:16:51XochitlI only like a little tiny tiny tiny.00:16:54XochitlLittle lick of it.00:16:56XochitlBut like, I'll put like a tiny bit on.00:16:57XochitlA butter knife and just like.00:16:59XochitlOr like I'll put some on as.00:17:01XochitlA piece of seaweed and.00:17:02XochitlRead it.00:17:03JackWell, our listeners out there like the what social is describing is a bean paste, but it's it's it's seasoned very, very deep, heavily with like salt and stuff like that. So.00:17:14XochitlYes, the fermented soybean paste and it's extremely faulty.00:17:16JackRight.00:17:18XochitlBut it's so tasty.00:17:20JackIt is. I I'm. I'm with you too. I'm actually. You know, I I'm. I'm not like against savory. I just think like when I'm craving some something I'm feeling down, you know depressed or whatever. And I just want to eat my.00:17:33JackWings. I'll go to the suites. You know, just go to a sugar.00:17:39XochitlI'll get so sick of sugar, like kind of fast like I do, like sweet stuff, But I'll probably could only eat like two or three cookies in a binge. But I could down like a whole bag of hot Cheetos, like a bunch of fried mozzarella sticks. I could just keep going, you know?00:17:54XochitlWhat I mean like?00:17:56XochitlI can't get to.00:17:57XochitlIn in Spanish is.00:17:58XochitlA word called EMPA Lagar, which means like you ate too much sweet stuff and it's like giving you a sickly sweet feeling in your mouth and.00:18:05XochitlYou're like sick of it.00:18:05JackOhh yeah, they call it.00:18:07JackPalate fatigue is the name of that.00:18:10발표자Oh, hello.00:18:12JackYeah, palate fatigue is actually it's an evolutionary protection, you know, for so we don't eat too much of one thing because, you know in nature you could, you know, you could don't eat all the berries because they might be poisonous or whatever. So we we we do get sick of eating. You know if you eat too much.00:18:27XochitlYeah, yeah.00:18:31JackIce cream. You'll start to get sick of it. It's just like sickly. Kind of.00:18:35JackSweet, you know.00:18:35XochitlYeah. Interesting. I get palate fatigue from sweet things, but I won't really get it from savory because it's more diversity and savory food, in my opinion. Different. Yeah, so.00:18:43JackThat's exactly right, yes.00:18:46JackBut I could eat a whole sleeve of.00:18:47JackOreos, no problem.00:18:49XochitlMy God, that's so funny. I don't really like Oreos. Also, like in a milkshake or something. Then I.00:18:54XochitlCould do that but.00:18:55JackYeah. Yeah. No, I could just. I could just tear into a sleeve of Oreos and they'll be gone.00:19:00JackIn five seconds.00:19:03XochitlYeah. All right, listeners. Oh, no, no, you're fine.00:19:03JackYeah, I know that it's.00:19:06JackSorry, go ahead.00:19:08XochitlLet us know.00:19:09XochitlHow you did on this test? Because I feel pretty badly I'm.00:19:13XochitlNot. I'm not going to.00:19:15XochitlLie I we.00:19:15JackI think we tied like it.00:19:17JackWas it was pretty close.00:19:17XochitlWe probably tied in the end. I my short term.00:19:23XochitlAnd long term memory, it is really crappy.00:19:25XochitlSo I retained things poorly, so I was like, I don't know about this. I'm swimming in the dark. But, you know, I think it did alright. I think we did alright and the listeners let us know how you did and shoot us a comment down below at AZ englishpodcast.com shoot us an e-mail at AZ englishpodcast@gmail.com and join our WhatsApp and WeChat groups to join in on the fun.00:19:46XochitlAnd you'll see that next time. 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In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Xochitl and Jack discuss American weddings.Transcript:00:00:01JackWelcome to the A-Z English podcast. My name is Jack and I'm here with my co-host social. And today we have a culture corner episode for you and social. This is from our students. This question comes from our students and this the question is I want to know how Americans plan a wedding.00:00:22JackDo Americans have a dowry? Is there a dowry system in the United States?00:00:29JackSo should we start with like just?00:00:31JackHow Americans plan a wedding.00:00:34XochitlYeah. And Jack, I would be interested.00:00:36XochitlTo know about this because I bet you have like.00:00:38XochitlA lot of cultural.00:00:38XochitlBut I don't there since I know through like other people, but I don't know.00:00:47XochitlThere's things I've heard about American weddings, but I like US weddings, but I'm not super like.00:00:55JackOhh yeah yeah I.00:00:57JackI used to work. Uh. I used to work in the wedding industry. I was.00:01:00JackA wedding DJ in college.00:01:02XochitlOhh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah, that's really.00:01:05XochitlInteresting. I didn't know that. Yeah, I'm not too first because a lot of stuff I know is through my mom. Who that's like.00:01:11XochitlMore Mexican weddings.00:01:15XochitlSo yeah, anyway.00:01:17JackSo maybe we'll go backwards. We'll start with the dowry, because I think, Simply put, most American weddings, didn't you do not have a dowry in marriage.00:01:27XochitlRight.00:01:28XochitlI think what's interesting is in the US culture, usually the brides parents paid for the wedding, correct?00:01:36JackYeah, that's true that traditionally that's that's true. The the Brides parents pay for the wedding.00:01:44JackWhat did the what?00:01:45JackDo the uh.00:01:47JackGroom's pants. Pay for.00:01:51XochitlI don't. I don't know, Jack. I'm.00:01:53XochitlGonna Google this while our listeners?00:01:55발표자Maybe it maybe.00:01:56JackTraditionally it was like you, the bride's parents, pay and then the the husband is expected to work and take care of the wife like.00:02:04JackThat's the.00:02:05JackThe arrangement.00:02:06XochitlEspecially the groom's parents paid for honeymoon, marriage, license, rehearsal, rehearsal dinner, efficient fees, rooms and gifts, flowers, boutonnieres engagement party entertainment, groom and bride gift, wedding night accommodations and wedding transportation.00:02:27XochitlAnd groom and groom's been attired.00:02:30JackOK, OK. So all those little little things that they pay for the probably add up to about the same as what the the bride is paying for.00:02:43XochitlMaybe, and it might be like how I guess traditionally the man was expected to like, have a home.00:02:51XochitlReady for the to move into?00:02:53XochitlSo I guess that's kind of what his family is.00:02:58XochitlContributing towards, I guess the home and it's usually furnished and everything. So maybe that's why they.00:03:06XochitlThe bride's parents pay for the.00:03:11JackRight, right. And but I think I would say like that, all that stuff we just talked about is pretty much out the window these days like there's so many different.00:03:21JackVersions of this where like couples will pay for.00:03:24JackTheir own weddings.00:03:26JackThe parents will just, you know, split.00:03:30JackThe cost 5050.00:03:32JackWhatever you know, just the the bride and groom will give the parents a bill essentially and then then the parents will pay for half and the other.00:03:39JackParents will pay for half.00:03:41JackLike there's just so there's like a million different ways that people finance weddings these days.00:03:47XochitlYeah, there's many other iterations I would say of how it's done today. I think for me, I would just feel the most comfortable paying for my own wedding cause then I'm not on anyone else's budget. I get to do what I want to do and also what I can afford and I don't have to feel bad about where I spend my money. Like I could say I want a really expensive dress, but I don't care about.00:04:07XochitlThe flowers or something, but if someone else is is footing the bill, I feel like they have a lot of control or a lot of.00:04:13XochitlSay, does that make sense?00:04:14JackYes, it makes a a ton of sense, like as long as you if you do it yourself, then you get to make all the decisions and no one can tell you what to.00:04:24JackSo that's it.00:04:24XochitlYeah, which sounds like the dream for me.00:04:27JackYeah. Yeah, I think that's, I agree with that. I think a lot of couples do that or they'll have really small weddings. They're saying let's do a small wedding, but we get full control. And I I agree with that to be honest, because I think too many people, too many couples are concerned with. They want to have a great wedding.00:04:47JackBut they forget about having a good marriage. You know, it's like have a great marriage and.00:04:50XochitlRight, that's important.00:04:53JackAn OK wedding.00:04:54JackYou know.00:04:54XochitlRight. Yeah, just what can.00:04:58XochitlWe ask, is it rude to ask what?00:05:00XochitlYou and your wife did or.00:05:02JackNo, no, it's fine. Actually, we we followed that strategy ourselves. We didn't have a wedding. We.00:05:10JackWhat we did was we had like of a kind of family get together in Korea where my family met her family and we all went to a restaurant and then we, my wife and I went down to the embassy and we basically bounced back between the embassy and the City Hall for about.00:05:31Jack8 hours getting documents signed, going back to the embassy, getting this signed so that we could be officially be married.00:05:39JackAnd so yeah, it wasn't a very romantic day. It was more stressful, you know, just going to translation services and things like that. It's a lot easier now. But this was 20 years ago and.00:05:52XochitlRight.00:05:54JackBut, but you know, we've had a great. We've had a great marriage. So you know it wasn't it wasn't the traditional way of doing it with like a a wedding and stuff like that. But. But I don't think she or I have, I don't think either of us have any regrets about doing it that way.00:06:13XochitlYeah. Did you face any pressure from either of your parents, like your parents?00:06:17XochitlOr her parents about her.00:06:19JackNo, no, not at all. Maybe a little bit. I think the, you know in Korea there's like an opportunity to make some money. You know you invite a lot of guests.00:06:32JackTo the wedding, and then everybody just gives like 50 bucks or.00:06:36JackWhatever that we missed out on that, which was pretty stupid, you know, we could have we left a lot of a lot of money on the table so to speak.00:06:37발표자Right.00:06:45XochitlRight.00:06:49XochitlBut at the end of the day, you would have had to spend quite a bit of money on the wedding, so you might have just ended up recouping those costs but not really profiting.00:06:58JackExactly. There's no guarantee we would have, you know, made that much after and. And we don't know, you know, that many people. So we don't know how many guests we would have had, you know, some weddings that, you know, you get 1000 guests, right? Everybody's giving 50 or 100 bucks. I mean, you can.00:07:16JackLike a lot of money. But, you know, ours would have been smaller. And so, yeah, and. And as far as like, a dowry system goes, you know, dowry is basically like the the the bride's parents offer money to the.00:07:18XochitlRight.00:07:35JackTo the husbands, to.00:07:36JackThe groom's parents. Is that not right and?00:07:39XochitlThat is right, yeah.00:07:43XochitlAnd in this situation, it's basically the bright.00:07:46JackOhh wait, no, I've got it backwards. I'm sorry. It's the groom's parents that have to give the money to the brides parents, right?00:07:58JackI think I've got it backwards.00:08:00JackYeah, dowry is a dowry. Is the husband that gives money to the.00:08:00발표자And then.00:08:03XochitlIt says no, it says property money brought by a bride who has been on their marriage. So it is from the bride and her family to the husband.00:08:13JackOh, OK. That's what the diary is. OK. OK. I thought it was the other way around. I guess I'm. I was confused. OK, so it's the it's the bride's family offering money to the the groom's family.00:08:28XochitlUh, it says dowry contrast with the related concepts of bride price and dower, which I suppose are when the green gives money to her parents. So in these situations the man and this is, I mean I don't know. I don't really know about bringing Mexican culture into.00:08:48XochitlThis but this is kind of.00:08:49XochitlDifferent in Mexican culture.00:08:51XochitlThe man's family pays for I. I'm not really sure who pays for what. I believe the man's family pays for more, but they also pay a bribe price. Traditionally, it's not really done anymore these days. I think now most young couples pay their own weddings. Even my parents paid the their wedding, I believe.00:09:12XochitlAnd my dad paid for most of it, but my mom also.00:09:16XochitlPaid towards the wedding but.00:09:22XochitlI was just saying the man there traditionally would give like cattle money.00:09:31XochitlYou know, farm animals really usually like ex heads of cattle ex chickens, ex turkeys, whatever. To the brides family, so.00:09:42XochitlYou're you are.00:09:43XochitlGiving substantial amount of money.00:09:45XochitlFor your wife, basically, in exchange for your wife, kind of. And the US is a little different because.00:09:53XochitlIn more modern day culture, the brides the bride's parents are the ones who pay for the wedding, traditionally so.00:09:59JackYes, man, right. In some countries it's like the the you know, it's like you're lucky to be marrying my my son. And in other countries it's like you're lucky to be marrying my daughter. It kind of bounces back between the two. I mean, I would say in modern in, you know, in modern American culture there's no dowry system. You know, there's no.00:10:11XochitlRight, yeah.00:10:20JackThere's no more, but back in the olden days, like what social was talking about, you'd be like, yeah, sure.00:10:26JackYou know the part of the negotiation would be you marry my daughter, I give you 25 head of cattle, you know, and 60 acres of land, you know, whatever. Like, you know. And and and it was a it was a negotiation because because back in those days.00:10:39발표자Right.00:10:44JackIn American culture, like, you know, 1800s or whatever, women were considered property of men.00:10:53JackUM.00:10:53발표자Right.00:10:54JackAnd so, you know, we just.00:10:55발표자We don't think in.00:10:56JackThose terms anymore we, you know.00:10:57XochitlIt's funny though, because it's like even though we're considered.00:10:58JackWe have we lived in.00:11:01XochitlProperty of men. Our families are paying for.00:11:03XochitlA man to take us.00:11:06XochitlSo that's kind of so that's stupid, but also the other thing I I'm I will argue is that I think it's still pretty common in the US for the brides parents to pay.00:11:16XochitlMe for the wedding and I think that that constitutes a dowry.00:11:22XochitlTo me, it's.00:11:22XochitlAlmost like a dowry. Because why aren't the groom's parents really paying? It's the right. Like it's customary for the bride.00:11:30Xochitl'S parents to.00:11:30XochitlPay. So I think that that's like a.00:11:33XochitlRemnant of dowry culture in my opinion.00:11:36JackI would agree with that. Yep. Absolutely, absolutely, it's.00:11:39JackIt's it's an antiquated idea, an old idea that persists. But you know, it would be much fairer to just split everything down the middle, you know, or you know.00:11:50발표자Right.00:11:52JackI think going going.00:11:53JackOne step further and just having the couple pay for the weddings themselves. Get the parents out of it and you can invite them.00:12:00JackOr not invite them. But you know, yeah, I I think.00:12:06JackThat that's a better system.00:12:08JackOK, I think we got I think we captured this one.00:12:10XochitlAll right. Yeah. All right, listeners, if you are, if that answered your questions, please let us know and shoot us an e-mail. Let us know if there's a similar thing like a dairy or bride price in your culture. 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