
Outside Ourselves
Outside Ourselves with Kelsi Klembara features conversations about God’s gift of faith. What does it mean for saving faith to stand outside of our abilities and works? Join Kelsi as she explores questions about the Christian faith with theologians and theology lovers. New episodes every other week. Outside Ourselves is a part of the 1517 Podcast Network.
Latest episodes

Nov 3, 2022 • 46min
Gretchen Ronnevik and the Patience of God
Gretchen Ronnevik is the author of Ragged: Spiritual Disciplines for the Spiritually Exhausted and co-host of the podcast, Freely Given. She joins Kelsi to talk about research for her new book on the patience of God. Gretchen talks about God's steadfastness amplifies his grace and goodness, and makes it possible for us to ask tough - even wrong - questions.
Show notes:
Gretchen's book: Ragged: Spiritual Disciplines for the Spiritually Exhausted
Gretchen's podcast: Freely Given
Unveiling Mercy by Chad Bird
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Oct 20, 2022 • 46min
Scott Keith and Tough Texts
Join Kelsi as she talks with 1517 Executive Director, Dr. Scott Keith, about how to interpret the Bible, specifically those really confusing, shocking, and tough texts. Kelsi and Dr. Keith take a look at what Christians mean by the perspicuity or clarity of Scripture and how the norms of Scripture as a whole, most specifically the message of Christ crucified for you, should influence the way we approach individual texts.
Show notes:
Tough Texts Radio Show
The Thinking Fellows Podcast
Purchase Being Dad: Father as a Picture of God’s Grace
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Oct 6, 2022 • 53min
David Zahl and Low Anthropology
In the first Outside Ourselves episode, Kelsi chats with author, David Zahl, about his newest book, Low Anthropology (The Unlikely Key to a Gracious View of Others and Yourself). David is the founder and director of Mockingbird Ministries. David talks about why he wrote Low Anthropology, and why he thinks a pessimistic view of human nature can actually bring with it good and hopeful news. Kelsi and David also discuss the various ways we see low anthropology play out in culture, television and literature, and everyday life.
Show notes:
Purchase Low Anthropology
Low Anthropology Speaking Tour
Mockingbird Ministries
Eve Fairbank's excerpt on forgiveness in South Africa:
When Racial Progress Comes for White Liberals
David French's article on LOTR vs. GOT:
It's Time to Remember Tolkien
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Sep 25, 2022 • 2min
Welcome to Outside Ourselves
Welcome to Outside Ourselves with Kelsi Klembara! Outside Ourselves features conversations about God’s gift of faith. What does it mean for saving faith to stand outside of our abilities and works?
Join Kelsi as she explores questions about the Christian faith with theologians and theology lovers. New episodes every other week. Outside Ourselves is a part of the 1517 Podcast Network.