Outside Ourselves

In the final Summer Break episode, Kelsi chats with Caleb and Nathan from  @theologyontherise  the 2021 movie, Belfast, and what it means to be given and identity rather than create one. They discuss how Belfast's main character, Buddy, wrestles with who he is as his parents simultaneously wrestle with a big family decision and where, while more descriptive than prescriptive, they see examples of Christian vocation throughout the film.Show Notes:⁠⁠⁠Support 1517⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Newsletter⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠Theology on the Rise: YouTubeInstagram

In this episode of Outside Ourselves Summer Break, 1517 executive director, Scott Keith, joins Kelsi to talk about the Marvel Cinematic Universe and specifically, the character arc of Tony Stark or Iron Man over the course of the Avengers: Infinity Saga series. Scott explains how J.R.R. Tolkien's term, eucatastrophe, is at play in the series. The two conclude that the hero's journey works as long as the hero emulated is Christ himself, and also discuss how we all long for a hero who doesn't lecture us, but saves us. Show Notes:⁠Support 1517⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠The 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠More from Kelsi: ⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠ Kelsi's Newsletter⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ ⁠Spotify⁠ ⁠Youtube⁠More from Scott:The Thinking Fellows PodcastBeing Dad: Father as a Picture of God's Grace

In this episode of Outside Ourselves: Summer Break, author, 1517 contributor, and internet theology whiz kid, Amy Mantravadi discuss theological themes in Charlotte Bronte's novel, Jane Eyre. Amy makes the argument that Jane's character development traces a law-gospel dynamic with Jane moving from a place of shame and condemnation to ultimately, resurrection.Show Notes:⁠⁠Support 1517⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠The 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Kelsi's Newsletter⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Youtube⁠More from Amy:Broken Bonds: A Novel of the ReformationFollow Amy on XAmy's Substack

Kelsi talks with pastor, author, and 1517 contributor, Bradley Gray, about themes of suffering in Apple TV's series, Severance. The two explore how the show reveals humanity's inability to escape suffering before turning to the Christian answer for pain, grief, and ultimately death.Show Notes:⁠Support 1517⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠The 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠More from Kelsi: ⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠ ⁠Kelsi's Newsletter⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ ⁠Spotify⁠ ⁠Youtube⁠More from Bradley:Read "The Wounds We Run From" at 1517Brad's Book, Finding God in the DarknessBrad's Substack

In this first episode of Outside Ourselves Summer Break series, Kelsi chats with Reformation Theology professor (and Broadway Musical Buff), Ken Sundet Jones, about the connections between Wicked and a theology of glory/theology of the cross. The two focus in on Elphaba's desire to live without limitation and where this desire leads - ironically not to freedom and goodness, but to wickedness and bondage.Show Notes:1517 Podcast Fundraiser⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠The 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠More from Kelsi: ⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠ ⁠Kelsi's Newsletter⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ ⁠Spotify⁠ ⁠Youtube⁠More from Ken:The Iowa's Preacher ProjectWicked and the Limits of Freedom

In this conversation, Luke Kjolhaug, an author and pastor from Elam Lutheran Church, dives into his book, Sinner Saint: A Surprising Primer to the Christian Life. He explores the intriguing idea of simul iustus et peccator, showing how Christians can be both flawed and justified. Luke shares personal insights on faith, grace, and the importance of imputation, while tackling misconceptions around sanctification. Their discussion reveals how this duality can lead to a more authentic spiritual journey.

Jared C. Wilson, Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry and author at For the Church, dives into the essential themes of his book, *Lest We Drift*. He outlines five dangers of drifting from gospel-centrality, emphasizing the importance of grace and Christ's righteousness in spiritual assurance. Wilson also addresses the fragmentation within evangelicalism, influenced by political divisions and social media, and urges believers to maintain their focus on gospel-centered preaching amidst cultural shifts.

David Zahl joins Kelsi to talk about his new book, The Big Relief: The Urgency of Grace for a Worn-Out World.David Zahl is the director of Mockingbird Ministries and editor-in-chief of the Mockingbird website. David and his wife Cate reside in Charlottesville, VA with their three boys, where David also serves on the staff of Christ Episcopal Church. He is the author of Seculosity: How Career, Parenting, Technlogy, Food, Politics, and Romance Became Our New Religion and What To Do About It and Low Anthropology: The Unlikely Key to a Gracious View of Yourself. Show Notes:⁠Support 1517⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠The 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠More from Kelsi: ⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠ ⁠Kelsi's Newsletter⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ ⁠Spotify⁠ ⁠Youtube⁠More from Dave: Preorder The Big ReliefMockingbird MinistriesListen to the Mockingcast

Mark Mattes, a Professor of Theology and Philosophy at Grand View University, dives into the complex world of assurance of salvation. He critiques decision theology, suggesting it often leaves believers wondering if they're truly saved. Instead, he highlights that salvation is primarily God's work, emphasizing the biblical metaphor of new birth. Mattes argues for a faith rooted in Christ's promises rather than personal performance, advocating for the significance of sacraments in providing assurance. He also discusses the illusion of free will and the true nature of divine grace.

Sarah Hinlicky Wilson is back to talk about her latest book, Forty Facets of the Ascension. She breaks down the two Biblical accounts of the Ascension in Luke and Acts and talks about what the ascension tells us (and what it doesn't tell us) about Jesus as well as what it means for Christians. Find her kickstarter for the book linked below! Sarah Hinlicky Wilson is a prolific author of theology, fiction, and poetry. She is the founder of Thornbush Press and hosts the podcast Queen of the Sciences: Conversations between a Theologian and Her Dad. Born and raised in the U.S., Sarah has lived in Slovakia, France, and Japan.Show Notes:⁠Support 1517⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠The 1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠More from Kelsi: ⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠ Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠ ⁠Kelsi's Newsletter⁠ Subscribe to the Show: Apple Podcasts⁠ Spotify⁠ Youtube⁠More from Sarah:Forty Facets of the Ascension KickstarterSarah's WebsiteSarah's Podcast