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Jul 30, 2022 • 45min

Episode #75 - Thoughts on Baidu/Apollo RT6, battery cell suppliers looking to US, unpacking latest news on Didi

Tu & Lei begin the pod with a discussion about the unveiling of the RT6 - an Baidu Apollo branded, Level 4 capable robotaxi that will be hitting the streets sometime next year at the cost of Â¥250K (~$37K) and the greater implications of Baidu's mobility strategy. Tu speculates that we could see announcements from Baidu about pilots launching outside of China next year.Tu moves the discussion over to battery cell manufacturers and how they're likely being approached by the legacy automakers with the opportunity to globally supply cells in the US + China + the EU(where applicable). Lei talks about Ford's bold announcement about a partnership with CATL.The topic of discussion then moves to Didi, its massive fine and what's next for them. The podcast closes with Tu & Lei briefly discussing the current foreign / local JV situation, Li Auto's 'spring-gate' and Tu's quick takes of the week. 
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Jul 24, 2022 • 43min

Episode #74 - Tu's Sneak Peek of the Robo-1, Projecting 2022 Full-Year and 2023 Sales, Geely's Radar

Tu starts the episode with an update on the ground and then quickly moves to his visit to Baidu headquarters to get a sneak peek at the Jidu Auto Robo-1 concept vehicle. Tu talks a bit about the overall shape, feel of the interior and thoughts on the single long coast to coast screen that makes up most of the front console. He notes that the lack of buttons and knobs really stands out and that the UX and UI needs to really be strong in order to pull the Human Machine Interface (HMI) off.Lei points out the UX may be behind the complaints about the Zeekr 001 and the reason Zeekr has decided to upgrade everyone for free while NIO said it would be too costly for them to do it, indirectly poking fun at Zeekr for the smaller number of cars they have on the road compared to NIO.Tu believes that our vehicle infotainment / touchscreen expectations are built on our experience with our mobile phone/tablets so any latency issues or general buggy-ness could lead to a bad UX. Tu and Lei then begin to discuss the 1st half sales and how the 2nd half is poised to be much larger and could possibly push full year sales to 6M units. They continued to game out that if 2023 saw >50% growth, the China NEV market could be over 10M units!  Lei then switches the topic over to Geely’s newest brand Radar that will specialize in electric trucks and both Tu and Lei share their reactions to the RD6 vehicle concept pickup that was unveiled and the changes of the brand’s success.
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Jul 21, 2022 • 1h 8min

MAX Episode #8 - Frank Wu, Head of Design: Jidu Auto (Part 2 of 2)

In this latest MAX episode, Tu & Lei welcome Frank Wu, Head of Design at JIDU. Frank leads the award winning JIDU Design team who recently won two Red Dot awards for their concept - the ROBO-01 concept vehicle & ROBO-01 charger. Part 2: Frank tells us what it's like to work at an EV startup in China, gets into more detail about the design decisions he made for the ROBO-01 and what the most important details are about the car to him.  He also provides some hints at what will stay on the production version, as well as a "sneak peak" for the second production vehicle. **We apologize for some of the audio issues with portions of this recording.**
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Jul 18, 2022 • 1h 28min

MAX Episode #8 - Frank Wu, Head of Design: Jidu Auto (Part 1 of 2)

In this latest MAX episode, Tu & Lei welcome Frank Wu, Head of Design at JIDU. Frank leads the award winning JIDU Design team who recently won two Red Dot awards for their concept - the ROBO-01 concept vehicle & ROBO-01 charger. Part 1: Frank opens up about his personal journey, what's influenced his career decisions and compares and contrasts the design processes between the different companies he’s worked for including how he was recruited and why he ultimately decided to take on the Head of Design role at JIDU.Frank was VERY open and conversational so we've split our conversation with him into two parts. Part II will drop within the next 48 hours.**We apologize for some of the audio issues with portions of this recording.** 
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Jul 14, 2022 • 1h 1min

Episode #73 - BYD outsells Tesla in NEVs, NIO Power Day, VW's SalzGiga

Tu and Lei start out the pod with a brief review of June sales numbers and both agreed the market seemed to recover well with the major automakers all rebounding from low April / May sales caused by the lockdown in Shanghai. Tu and Lei spend a few moments to discuss the latest news about Covid in China including steps the Chinese govt is taking to restart the sector again. Lei that discusses the controversy about the claim of BYD outselling Tesla for the 1st half of 2022 since BYD sells a combination of PHEVs & BEVs while Tesla sells ONLY BEVs. The next topic of discussion is about the city of Shenzhen opening parts of the city up to L3 capable vehicles. Lei reviews all the numbers that were revealed during NIO’s Power day likely to dispute the short report that came out on them last week. Tu counters the NIO numbers with some Tesla numbers of his own, specifically about the number of superchargers that have been installed in China.  Tu then pulls back the discussion to what the US needs to do to really help speed up EV adoption in the US including a laser focus on rolling out more EV charging infrastructure. Tu & Lei close out the the pod with a summary of the VW battery manufacturing announcement. 
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Jul 6, 2022 • 34min

Episode #72 - NIO's tough couple of weeks, the VW ID.Aero unveil and thoughts on the Chongqing Auto show

Tu starts this week’s pod with a quick update on what’s going on on the ground in Beijing. Lei then moves on to NIO’s challenging last few weeks, first starting out with the tragic accident at their Shanghai headquarters that killed two people to this week’s bombshell short report accusing NIO of fraud, specifically for their accounting of battery swapping revenues.The next topic that Lei & Tu tackle was the unveiling of the Volkswagen ID.Aero, Volkswagen’s entry into the premium electric sedan category that’ll start shipping next year from its Chinese factory. They give their initial reactions from the unveil, look at the market segment it’s competing in and predict what challenges they anticipate the Aero having in the China market. The next topic is the Chongqing auto show and specifically the Avatr brand which is a joint venture between Huawei and Changan Motors, an SOE based in Chongqing. In the final segment, Tu summarizes what he thought were some of the most interesting news from the week including TSMC likely overtaking Intel on revenues to become the largest chip manufacturer in the world, Polestar’s IPO and Tesla incentivizing customers to trade in their ICE vehicles for discounts on Tesla vehicles.
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Jun 30, 2022 • 50min

Episode #71 - Reax of the Li Auto L9 unveil, VW & Merc moves, CATL's Qilin battery

Tu and Lei start the pod with their thoughts on Li Auto’s big unveil for this year, the L9. The conversation evolves into a broader discussion about Li Auto’s future ambitions and how they compare to their domestic competitors who are more focused on the international markets.The discussion moves over to some recent moves by Volkswagen and Mercedes that points to their continued emphasis on the China market.  They discuss how one makes sense but the other may do the opposite of what is intended. Tu and Lei then talk about the challenges that Volkswagen faces in the China market and what they should be doing to prep their local team for long-term battle and fight to maintain share even as the players around them seem to be moving faster with better products.The next topic Tu and Lei discuss is the Qilin battery announcement from CATL that’s going to be in customer’s vehicles next year. Tu spends the last part of the pod listing out what he thought were the most interesting things that he thought happened during the week including news about Tesla in India & China, Foxconn/Lordstown Motors, ELMS, NIO in the news for the wrong reasons and DeepRoute’s move to short haul, autonomous trucking.
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Jun 21, 2022 • 47min

Episode #70 - Unpacking the NIO ES7 unveil, Geely's new brand Radar, BYD at CES 2023

Tu and Lei start out the conversation with a brief summary of May’s sales and agree that things are looking better but that its still a fluid and delicate situation. Tu and Lei then move on to the discussion about the NIO ES7 and Lei poses two questions to Tu about his preferences if he had to choose between certain new vehicles. They spend a good deal of time discussing the ES7, how NIO is doing overall, and what they expect and hope to see from NIO moving forward. Let’s just say that they define success for NIO as having well over 20K units/month in sales by the time 2024 rolls around.Tu moves over to some of the events that took place that he wanted to highlight. Lei highlights Geely introducing its new pickup brand Radar. They spend a few moments discussing Geely and move on to the announcement that Voyah will be launching their products in Norway and close out the pod with BYD confirmation that they will be attending next year’s CES. 
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Jun 15, 2022 • 48min

Episode #69 - Unpacking the Jidu Robo-1 Unveil, NIO earnings takeaways, BYD out there #GSD

The pod starts out with Tu and Lei unpacking what Lei calls the biggest China smart EV reveal this year, the unveil of the Jidu Robo-1.Tu gives an update on the status of Covid restrictions in Beijing including a bit of what’s opening up then Lei transitions over to an update on May sales numbers and how things are beginning to recover from a very poor April. Lei expects June to move towards normal as the OEMs are now more capable of dealing with COVID as being part of the 'new normal' for operations.The dynamic duo spend the next several minutes dissecting NIO’s earnings and what you should look for later this year from them with important launches still on the calendar that will almost double the number or products they have on offer.Tu summarizes a few pieces of news which segues to a broader discussion about BYD, and how they’ve surpassed VW Group this week by market capitalization. Lei and Tu then discuss the announcement this week that BYD will supply Tesla with batteries. 
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Jun 9, 2022 • 42min

Episode #68 - Better May sales, WM Motor's IPO, More Deets on the NIO ES7

Lei starts the pod talking May sales. Overall better numbers across the board but Lei was disappointed a bit in BYD’s sales. Lei then moves to explain the stimulus package that’s been announced for vehicle purchase and who it’s targeting.   This triggers a broader discussion about the economy and Shanghai & Beijing beginning to open up and the implications of this along with the subsidies.   Lei moves the conversation over to WM Motor’s planned IPO and some of the history of the company until now and also talks about Buick’s latest announcements from last week and the recent weakness in China of the GM brands: Chevy and Buick in particular.   Tu contrasts that with the popularity of the Wuling Hongguang Mini EV which should provide GM would a treasure trove of data that can be used across their brands and products to increase sales for the China market.Tu and Lei close out the pod talking about NIO’s ES7 and the recent announcement by Ford about investment in Michigan.

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