

devtools.fm: Developer Tools, Open Source, Software Development
Andrew Lisowski, Justin Bennett
A podcast about developer tools and the people who make them. Join us as we embark on a journey to explore modern developer tooling and interview the people who make it possible.
We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, AWS, Vercel, Netlify, Fly.io).
We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, AWS, Vercel, Netlify, Fly.io).
Episodes
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May 21, 2024 • 1h 18min
José Valim - Elixir, Erlang, Phoenix, Livebook
Guest José Valim, creator of Elixir, discusses the advantages of functional programming, concurrency, and distributing computing. They explore the evolution of Elixir from Erlang, web development with Phoenix framework, fault-tolerant embedded systems, machine learning, and creation of an Elixir ecosystem with LifeBook.

May 13, 2024 • 56min
Ryan Dahl - Node, Deno, and JSR The Modern JavaScript Registry
Ryan Dahl, Creator of Node and Deno, discusses the evolution from Node to Deno, the new javascript registry JSR, and the integration of client-side and server-side development through evolving web APIs. They compare Deno's tooling approach with Node's core philosophy, explore the historical evolution of Node.js, and delve into the simplified cloud deployment with Dino. Innovative approaches to web service management like serverless computing and key-value stores are also discussed.

May 6, 2024 • 1h 7min
Scott Chacon - GitHub, GitButler and changing the face of version control
Scott Chacon, GitHub co-founder, discusses GitButler and the future of version control. Topics include GitHub's history, AI impact on development, and the evolution of version control tools. Learn about authentication methods, evolving workflows, and the challenges in adopting new developer tools. Discover insights on pull requests in GitHub, AI integration, and the upcoming developer conference in Berlin.

May 1, 2024 • 33min
Live: Epic Web Conf w/Scott Hanselman, Una Kravets, Michael Chan
Technology experts Scott Hanselman, Una Kravets, and Michael Chan discuss the dynamic landscape of developer tools, community engagement, and the evolution of DevRel roles. They explore AI's influence on creativity, ethical implications, and the fusion of technology with artistic expression.

6 snips
Apr 29, 2024 • 60min
Maggie Appleton - Visual Storytelling in Tech, Designing for AI, and the Future of Coding
Maggie Appleton, a visual storyteller, discusses building AI into apps, the power of local first development, and digital gardening for personal websites. She also explores the future of coding, personalized content creation, and tools in tech and web development.

6 snips
Apr 21, 2024 • 1h 22min
Johannes Schickling - Prisma, Effect and the rise of Local First Development
Johannes Schickling, founder of Prisma, discusses local-first development, the Effect library for async code in TypeScript, and building Overtone app. Topics include evolution of programming concepts, challenges for developers, and tools for document generation and TypeScript performance.

Apr 15, 2024 • 54min
Mitchell Hashimoto - Founder of HashiCorp, Author of Terraform, and Thoughts of Open Source Monetization
Mitchell Hashimoto, founder of HashiCorp and author of Terraform, discusses the challenges of being a founder, open source monetization, his experience as a pilot, and technical philanthropy in the terminal emulator space

Apr 8, 2024 • 1h 15min
Adam Wathan - Tailwind CSS v4, The Evolution and Technical Journey
Adam Wathan, creator of Tailwind CSS, discusses the evolution of Tailwind CSS v4, use of Rust and Lightning CSS, monetizing the tool, building Tailwind Labs, addressing Twitter feedback, and challenges in extensibility and distribution in Rust vs JavaScript.

Apr 1, 2024 • 1h 6min
Dan Abramov - Bluesky, Core React Team, RSC, Strict Dom, and the more!
Dan Abramov, core team member of React, discusses his work on Bluesky, a decentralized social network. Topics include React compiler, server components, and the future of React. Also explores using web APIs in React Native development and evolution of software architecture concerns.

4 snips
Mar 25, 2024 • 1h 5min
Guillermo Rauch - Vercel, The Front End Cloud
Guillermo Rauch, founder of Vercel and creator of Next.js, discusses the changing landscape of web development, AI in software development, generative UI, and the evolution of developer tools. The conversation explores real-time web applications, the impact of React, hands-on learning with Code Crafters, and the future of AI-driven software development.