Ryan Dahl - Node, Deno, and JSR The Modern JavaScript Registry
May 13, 2024
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Ryan Dahl, Creator of Node and Deno, discusses the evolution from Node to Deno, the new javascript registry JSR, and the integration of client-side and server-side development through evolving web APIs. They compare Deno's tooling approach with Node's core philosophy, explore the historical evolution of Node.js, and delve into the simplified cloud deployment with Dino. Innovative approaches to web service management like serverless computing and key-value stores are also discussed.
JSR aims to create a runtime agnostic town square for JavaScript ecosystems.
Deno emphasizes modern features, TypeScript, and secure by default philosophy.
Deno prioritizes simplifying development by integrating tools and aligning with browsers.
Deep dives
JSR as a Common Town Square for JavaScript Runtimes
JSR aims to provide a common town square that is runtime agnostic for the myriad server side runtimes and various tooling in the JavaScript ecosystem.
Ryan's History with Node.js and Dino
Ryan discusses the growth and impact of Node.js, recalling his surprise at its popularity. He elaborates on the creation of Dino as a 'V2 of Node,' emphasizing the need for innovation in JavaScript.
Comparing Node.js and Dino
Dino distinguishes itself by being more modern, emphasizing TypeScript and ECMAScript modules while discouraging common JS usage. Its secure by default philosophy and browser-aligned APIs set it apart from Node.js.
Dino's Philosophy on Tooling and Simplicity
Dino's philosophy prioritizes simplicity and minimal configuration, integrating tools like linters and code formatters within the runtime. This approach aims to streamline development and create a cohesive tooling ecosystem.
Future Prospects and Innovations in JavaScript Runtimes
Ryan envisions a future where Dino, JSR, and serverless technologies play a significant role in cloud computing. He emphasizes narrowing the gap to browsers, improving cold start times, and enabling seamless business logic programming.
Dino's Contributions to Open Source and Licensing
Ryan emphasizes the importance of open source principles in projects like Dino, fostering innovation and offering commercial services while keeping the core infrastructure open for future development. The focus on licensing and openness drives collaboration and long-term impact.
This week we have Ryan Dahl, the creator of Node and Node. We talk about the road that led from Node to Deno and what he wants to do differently. We also talk about the new javascript registry, JSR, and how they hope to make a runtime agnostic town square.