
devtools.fm: Developer Tools, Open Source, Software Development
A podcast about developer tools and the people who make them. Join us as we embark on a journey to explore modern developer tooling and interview the people who make it possible.
We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, AWS, Vercel, Netlify, Fly.io).
Latest episodes

Jan 20, 2025 • 57min
Artem Zakharchenko - Mock Service Worker
Artem Zakharchenko, creator of the Mock Service Worker (MSW) and developer educator at Epic Web Dev, discusses the evolution and capabilities of MSW, a library for mocking network requests. He dives into the complexities of mocking in software testing and shares advanced techniques for enhancing Node.js testing. Artem highlights the importance of adaptability in testing frameworks and previews exciting future innovations, particularly regarding cross-process interception for improved JavaScript application testing.

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Jan 13, 2025 • 55min
Darcy Clarke - npm, vlt and the Future of JavaScript Package Management
Darcy Clarke, CEO and founder of Vault, shares his extensive experience from npm and GitHub. He dives into the future of JavaScript package management, highlighting the innovative VLT package manager designed to enhance developer efficiency. The conversation explores groundbreaking tools for visualizing dependencies, the necessity of security in package management, and the push for community-driven solutions. Clarke emphasizes how VLT aims to disrupt traditional systems, all while fostering a robust and sustainable ecosystem for developers.

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Jan 6, 2025 • 51min
Joel Hooks - Egghead, Badass Courses, and the Future of Developer Education
Joel Hooks, the founder of Egghead, has been a key figure in developer education for over a decade. In this discussion, he shares his insights on crafting impactful technical courses and the evolution of online learning. He discusses Egghead's shift to high-quality bespoke courses and the importance of instructor involvement. Joel also delves into the challenges of learning to code in today's AI-driven landscape, stressing the need for foundational knowledge amid technological advancements.

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Dec 16, 2024 • 59min
Rudy Fraser - BlackSky - Next Generation of Social Media
In this discussion with Rudy Fraser, the mastermind behind BlackSky, we dive into his journey of creating a safe online space for Black communities on BlueSky. He shares insights on innovative moderation systems and community engagement strategies to combat online harassment. Rudy also tackles the technical challenges of scaling social media architecture and developing personalized feeds. Additionally, he explores sustainable funding models, highlighting his grassroots approach to ensuring financial stability while fostering a strong community ethos.

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Dec 9, 2024 • 54min
Matt Perry - (Framer) Motion - The Evolution of Animation Libraries
Matt Perry, the innovative creator behind Framer Motion and PopMotion animation libraries, discusses the evolution of animation tools. He shares insights into the shift from aesthetic-focused designs to user-centered experiences, emphasizing usability for wider adoption. Perry explores the progress of his libraries, the challenges of maintaining performance optimization, and the balance between complexity and clarity. He also unveils his transition from corporate work to personal entrepreneurship, focusing on accessibility in animation across frameworks.

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Dec 2, 2024 • 52min
Anselm Eickhoff - Jazz Tools
Anselm Eickhoff, the innovative creator behind Jazz Tools, discusses his journey of developing a framework for multiplayer, local-first applications. He shares insights on how his frustration with app development led to a focus on user-friendly design and robust data encryption for privacy. The conversation dives into the revolutionary application of cryptography, co-values for collaboration, and the complexities of schema migrations. Anselm also highlights how Jazz Tools aims to streamline development, reduce complexity, and enhance offline capabilities.

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Nov 18, 2024 • 49min
Dan Stepanov - NativeWind, NativeWind UI
Dan Stepanov, maintainer of NativeWind and author of NativeWind UI, discusses the evolution of NativeWind as a flexible styling solution for React Native that integrates Tailwind CSS principles. He shares insights into the challenges of developing a comprehensive UI library while maintaining native aesthetics across platforms. The conversation dives into the complexities of open-source sustainability and the unique marketing struggles engineers face. Dan also reflects on his journey from chemical engineering to the world of software development.

Nov 11, 2024 • 51min
Evan You - Vue, Vite, VoidZero and the Future of JavaScript Tooling
Evan You, the visionary behind Vue.js and Vite, is back to share insights into his new venture, VoidZero. He discusses how Rust-based tooling is set to revolutionize JavaScript development, with Rolldown as a key player in minimizing build times. The conversation dives into the evolution of Vite, tackling challenges in large codebases and open source sustainability. Evan highlights his journey from developer to founder, emphasizing the balance between accessibility and the financial support needed for innovation in the ecosystem.

Nov 4, 2024 • 52min
Nate Wienert - Tamagui, One Stack, Zero, and Universal Apps
Nate Wienert, the creator of Tamagui and One Stack, simplifies complex development processes for universal apps with React Native. He discusses the journey of building Tamagui, its integration at Uniswap, and the advantages of a monorepo. Nate dives into challenges surrounding the VXRN library, debating Metro vs. Vite, and explores innovative solutions in data synchronization with a new approach called Zero. He also sheds light on merging React and React Native through a novel meta framework, enhancing user experiences across platforms.

Oct 28, 2024 • 56min
Ivan Buzarin - Daytona
Ivan Buzarin, co-founder of Daytona and an expert in development environments, shares his two-decade journey in streamlining coding processes. He discusses the challenges of onboarding developers and how Daytona addresses these issues with its open-source platform. The conversation dives into the complexities of open source versus proprietary models, along with the transformative impact of AI on coding tools. Ivan also provides insights into future innovations in development environments, ensuring security and efficiency for enterprises.
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