
The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow
Welcome to The AI Native Developer, hosted by Guy Podjarny and Simon Maple. Join us as we explore and help shape the future of software development through the lens of AI. In this new paradigm of AI Native Software Development, we delve into how AI is transforming the way we build software, from tools and practices to the very structure of development teams.Our target audience includes developers and development leaders eager to stay ahead of the curve. If you're passionate about the future of software development and curious about how to leverage AI to build effective teams and groundbreaking software, this podcast is for you.Each week, we bring you insights into the latest AI tools and best practices, keeping you up-to-date with the cutting-edge advancements in the industry. Additionally, every two weeks, we present deep dives with experts and leaders in the AI and software development space, offering a glimpse into the future of AI development.Tune in to discover how AI will revolutionize your workflows, roles, and organizations. Get inspired by the latest tools and best practices, and prepare to be part of the next generation of software development.
Latest episodes

Sep 17, 2024 • 33min
AI-Powered Documentation: Insights with Omer Rosenbaum, CTO of Swimm
In this engaging episode, Simon Maple sits down with Omer Rosenbaum, the CTO and co-founder of Swimm, to explore the challenges and solutions in the realm of software documentation. With a rich background in cybersecurity, Omer brings a unique perspective to the discussion, highlighting the critical role of documentation in developer onboarding and knowledge sharing within organizations. They delve into how AI can assist in writing, updating, and finding documentation and discuss Swimm’s innovative approach that combines static analysis with AI to automate the documentation process. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of software documentation and the impact of AI on developer workflows.Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

Sep 10, 2024 • 47min
Enterprise AI Solutions Need to be Different - Glean and ex-Slack CPO, Tamar Yehoshua, on RAG, Changing Behavior and Bring-Your-Own-Model.
Tamar Yehoshua, a seasoned tech leader with a notable history at Amazon, Google, and Slack, shares insights from her current role at Glean. The conversation dives into Glean's innovative AI platform designed for enterprise solutions. Tamar discusses the importance of security and privacy in AI, the evolution from traditional search to generative AI, and the unique challenges enterprises face in adopting AI tools. She envisions a future where AI assistants take over routine tasks, allowing teams to focus on creativity and strategic initiatives.

Sep 5, 2024 • 36min
Monthly Roundup: Gen AI powered TDD, Understanding vs Generating Code, Speciality vs General models, and more!
In this month's episode of the Tessl podcast, hosts Simon Maple and Guy Podjarny explore the transformative impact of AI on software development. Featuring insights from industry leaders such as Itamar Friedman from Codium AI, James Ward from AWS, Jason Warner from Poolside, and Bouke Nijhuis from CINQ, the episode delves into AI's role in testing, code generation, and the future roles of developers. Listen as they discuss complex topics like AI-generated tests, the dichotomy between understanding and generating code, and the importance of tests over code. This episode is essential listening for anyone interested in the intersection of AI and software development.Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

Aug 27, 2024 • 21min
TDD and Generative AI - A perfect developer pairing with Bouke Nijhuis
Join Simon Maple as he sits down with Bouke Nijhuis, the Chief Technology Officer of CINQ, a consultancy based in Amsterdam. Bouke, an experienced Java developer and international speaker, delves into the world of Test-Driven Development (TDD) and the role of AI in modern software development. Throughout the episode, Bouke discusses his experiences with various AI coding assistants, and the innovative concept of generating code from human-written tests using AI. Learn about Bouke's practical implementations, the challenges faced, and his vision for a future where tests are the primary artifacts in software development. Whether you're a seasoned developer or just starting out, this episode offers valuable insights into the evolving landscape of AI-assisted coding.

Aug 20, 2024 • 1h 3min
From building CoPilot as GitHub CTO to building a code foundation model at Poolside: Jason Warner explores the AI Code Generation journey and where it leads
In this episode of AI Native Dev, Guy Podjarny sits down with Jason Warner, a veteran in software development and AI. Jason's impressive career includes roles such as CTO at GitHub, where he contributed to the creation of GitHub Actions and GitHub Copilot, GM at Heroku, and positions at Canonical and Redpoint Ventures. Now, as the founder of Poolside, Jason focuses on developing state-of-the-art language models for software development. This episode covers the evolution of code generation, the impact of AI on software development, the challenges and limitations of current models, and speculations on the future role of developers in an AI-native world.Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

Aug 13, 2024 • 38min
Rethinking Software Development: James Ward on AI's Role in Software Testing and Coding
James Ward, a developer advocate at AWS, shares his fascinating journey in software development and testing. He dives into AI's potential to automate coding tasks and the critical need for comprehensive testing. Ward discusses the delicate balance between using AI tools like AWS Q Developer and maintaining human oversight. He addresses AI's strengths and limitations, notably its inaccuracies, while emphasizing the evolving role of developers from coding to high-level design. Insights into the future of development highlight the essential blend of AI efficiency and human creativity.

Aug 13, 2024 • 18min
Boosting Developer Productivity with Q Developer: Hands on Insights from James Ward
James Ward, a seasoned software developer with deep expertise in cloud computing and AI, shares his insights on Q Developer, an AI assistant that seamlessly integrates with AWS services. He discusses its features like code explanation and test generation, emphasizing how it enhances coding productivity. James explores AI-assisted coding for complex topics like Java concurrency, showcasing the tool's effectiveness in problem-solving. His practical advice and personal experiences provide invaluable tips for developers looking to boost their productivity.

Aug 6, 2024 • 56min
Transforming Software Testing with AI: A Chat with Itamar Friedman from Codium AI
Itamar Friedman, co-founder and CEO of Codium AI, dives into the transformative power of AI in software testing. With a background in chip verification, Itamar discusses how AI enhances test planning, generation, and maintenance across various testing types. He contrasts traditional methods with AI-driven strategies, addressing common developer concerns about trusting AI-generated tests. The conversation also covers the future of autonomous AI test generation and the vital balance between innovation and human oversight in maintaining software accuracy.

Aug 1, 2024 • 42min
Monthly Roundup: AI Tool Effectiveness, Context, Fin, and AI Autonomy.
Hosts dive into the effectiveness of AI tools, tackling the nuanced challenges developers face in evaluating their performance. They discuss the critical importance of context in AI code generation and highlight the reality of AI hallucinations, balancing user trust with AI's creative output. The conversation shifts to the trade-offs between integrated and specialized developer tools, emphasizing the role of data in functionality. Plus, anticipate format changes for richer audience engagement and insights from upcoming expert guests.

Jul 30, 2024 • 14min
Unpacking Dosu: AI's Role in Assisted Development
Devin Stein, a visionary behind the AI-driven tool Dosu, shares insights into how it transforms software development. He explains how Dosu triages issues, maintains documentation, and enhances knowledge retrieval by integrating diverse data sources. The discussion highlights AI's role in open-source projects, automating responses, and optimizing developer efficiency. Devin emphasizes the critical balance between AI capabilities and human oversight, shedding light on the importance of testing to navigate the pitfalls of AI in development.