
The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow
Welcome to The AI Native Developer, hosted by Guy Podjarny and Simon Maple. Join us as we explore and help shape the future of software development through the lens of AI. In this new paradigm of AI Native Software Development, we delve into how AI is transforming the way we build software, from tools and practices to the very structure of development teams.Our target audience includes developers and development leaders eager to stay ahead of the curve. If you're passionate about the future of software development and curious about how to leverage AI to build effective teams and groundbreaking software, this podcast is for you.Each week, we bring you insights into the latest AI tools and best practices, keeping you up-to-date with the cutting-edge advancements in the industry. Additionally, every two weeks, we present deep dives with experts and leaders in the AI and software development space, offering a glimpse into the future of AI development.Tune in to discover how AI will revolutionize your workflows, roles, and organizations. Get inspired by the latest tools and best practices, and prepare to be part of the next generation of software development.
Latest episodes

May 14, 2025 • 1h 1min
Vibe Coding SimCity II: Injecting Chaos with Natural Disasters and AI Tools
Joe Holdcroft, a software developer known for creating a Tiny Town Simulator, joins Simon Maple to explore the wild world of coding chaos. They dive deep into integrating natural disasters like earthquakes and lightning into game simulations, discussing the unpredictable nature of AI-generated code. The duo shares their humorous trials with debugging and the joys of dynamic gameplay. Tune in for their insights on enhancing gaming experiences and the balancing act between creativity and systematic problem-solving in development!

May 6, 2025 • 44min
Vibe Coding SimCity: Prototyping Tiny Towns with AI Dev Tools
In this lively discussion, Joe Holdcroft, an engineering manager at Tessl, and vibe coding challenge host Macey Baker dive into creating a tiny town simulator using AI dev tools. They tackle the fun yet chaotic task of rapidly prototyping while battling quirky bugs like infinite money glitches. The duo explores AI's role in generating realistic city dynamics and the humorous side of coding, emphasizing the creative challenges of using AI in development. Listeners are guaranteed laughs as they share insights on debugging and innovative game mechanics.

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Apr 29, 2025 • 40min
Exploring LLM Observability with Traceloop's Gal Kleinman
In this conversation, Gal Kleinman, Co-founder and CTO of Traceloop, shares his insights into LLM observability, drawing from his experience building evaluation suites. He discusses the complexities of monitoring large language models and the transition from theory to practical applications. Kleinman introduces innovative solutions like Open LLMetry while emphasizing the necessity for robust observability systems and collaboration among developers and domain experts in the evolving landscape of AI.

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Apr 22, 2025 • 55min
From Builder to Orchestrator—Confronting the Software Engineer’s Identity Crisis
In this episode, host Simon Maple engages in a compelling discussion with Annie Vella, a skilled software engineer and manager, about the integration of AI into software development. Annie shares her insights on how AI tools are reshaping coding practices, the challenges engineers face in transitioning to management roles, and the skills required to thrive in this evolving landscape. This episode is crucial for anyone looking to understand the implications of AI in their work. Subscribe to the AI Native Developer podcast for more insights on AI and development.Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/GI2ywMl2gQk Read Annie's blog: https://annievella.com/posts/the-software-engineering-identity-crisis/Join the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io

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Apr 15, 2025 • 29min
Is Code Dead & The $1B Solo Startup Myth - 5 AI Realities with Tessl's Guy Podjarny
In a captivating discussion, Tom Hulme from Google Ventures joins Guy Podjarny to explore the shift from code-centric to spec-centric software development. They delve into how generative AI is reshaping workflows, making processes more efficient. The duo also tackles the evolving landscape of startups, emphasizing the importance of long-term vision and user loyalty. They highlight the challenges posed by technical debt and the transformative role of large language models, painting an intriguing picture of the future of tech.

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Apr 9, 2025 • 31min
AI's Transformative Impact on Development with Alex Komorske
Join Alex Komoroske, a web platform development expert, as he explores AI's transformative power in tech. Discover how generative AI revolutionizes web apps, speeding up development and enhancing collaboration. Alex discusses AI's dual role in reducing mundane tasks while igniting human creativity, highlighting the mixed feelings developers have about this shift. He also examines the evolving landscape of micro apps and the importance of maintaining code quality, offering insights into AI's implications for the future of software development.

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Apr 1, 2025 • 60min
Datadog CEO Olivier Pomel on AI Security, Trust, and the Future of Observability
Olivier Pomel, CEO of Datadog, is a key figure in the observability space, overseeing the integration of AI in cloud computing. He shares insights on the evolution of observability and the security challenges faced by AI applications. The conversation dives into building trust in AI, highlighting the high expectations users place on accuracy. Pomel also discusses advancements in deep learning for anomaly detection and the importance of user-centric development in software. His expertise sheds light on navigating the complexities of AI's rapid evolution and its implications for organizations.

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Mar 26, 2025 • 45min
Intent-Driven Development: Insights from Patrick Debois
Patrick Debois, a DevOps pioneer known for his innovative approaches, dives into the future of software development alongside Simon Maple, an expert in Java and AI integration. They discuss the shift towards aligning development with business intentions for impactful outcomes. The conversation highlights the importance of creating clear specifications to bridge technical and non-technical teams while leveraging clean data to enhance decision-making. Emphasizing collaborative practices, they explore the evolving role of developers in an AI-driven landscape, promoting a culture of innovation.

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Mar 18, 2025 • 55min
How Attackers Trick AI: Lessons from Gandalf’s Creator
Explore the intriguing world of AI security as experts discuss the alarming vulnerabilities facing modern systems. Discover how attackers use techniques like prompt injections and jailbreaks to exploit AI models. Gain insights into Gandalf’s staggering 60M+ attack attempts, revealing urgent security challenges. Learn about the importance of red teaming and the Dynamic Security Utility Framework in preventing AI disasters. Dive into the balance between security and usability, and the dual role of AI in enhancing creativity while posing risks.

Mar 13, 2025 • 55min
AI Gone Rogue? LLM Werewolf Showdown
What happens when AI learns to lie? In this electrifying episode of AI Native Dev, Simon Maple is joined by the brilliant Macey Baker, Community Engineer at Tessl, to unravel the wild, unpredictable, and sometimes downright hilarious world of Large Language Models (LLMs) in social deception games.From the psychological mind games of Werewolf to the cutthroat negotiations of Split or Steal, Macey spills the details on how AI models like OpenAI’s GPT-4o, Anthropic’s Sonnet, Llama, and DeepSeek R1 navigate deception, trust, and ethics when the stakes are high. Can an AI manipulate, bluff, or betray? Which model is the sneakiest, and which one folds under pressure?Prepare for shocking twists, unexpected strategies, and an eye-opening look at the ethical implications of AI in interactive gameplay. This is one episode you won’t want to miss—especially if you think you can outwit an AI!Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/9hVeVYlqyBcJoin the AI Native Dev Community on Discord: https://tessl.co/4ghikjhAsk us questions: podcast@tessl.io