The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow
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Welcome to The AI Native Developer, hosted by Guy Podjarny and Simon Maple. Join us as we explore and help shape the future of software development through the lens of AI. In this new paradigm of AI Native Software Development, we delve into how AI is transforming the way we build software, from tools and practices to the very structure of development teams.Our target audience includes developers and development leaders eager to stay ahead of the curve. If you're passionate about the future of software development and curious about how to leverage AI to build effective teams and groundbreaking software, this podcast is for you.Each week, we bring you insights into the latest AI tools and best practices, keeping you up-to-date with the cutting-edge advancements in the industry. Additionally, every two weeks, we present deep dives with experts and leaders in the AI and software development space, offering a glimpse into the future of AI development.Tune in to discover how AI will revolutionize your workflows, roles, and organizations. Get inspired by the latest tools and best practices, and prepare to be part of the next generation of software development.
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Nov 3, 2025 • 53min
Claude, TypingMind, AMP & MCP Servers: The Future Dev
In this conversation, Alan Pope, Senior Developer Advocate at Tessl, dives into the intriguing world of Model Context Protocols (MCPs). He discusses how MCPs provide AI agents with structured access to development environments while ensuring human oversight. Alan emphasizes the trend towards spec-driven development, moving away from 'vibe coding'. He also highlights the risks of outdated MCPs, recommends entry points for using AI agents, and showcases how personal knowledge bases can help generate authentic content. Tune in for insights on navigating the future of AI in software development!
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Oct 28, 2025 • 58min
AI Agents Beyond Context Limits | Maksim Shaposhnikov
Maksim Shaposhnikov, a research engineer at Tessl, dives into the world of AI coding agents aimed at enhancing coding reliability. He contrasts the roles of bots, copilots, and autonomous agents, highlighting how sub-agents can operate independently to handle complex tasks. Maksim also emphasizes the importance of human oversight, even as agents autonomously generate prototypes and fix bugs. He shares insights on managing context limits, optimizing tool choices for developers, and the promising future of self-correcting agents.
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Oct 21, 2025 • 47min
Instant PR Feedback Without leaving GitHub | Merrill Lutsky on Graphite
Merrill Lutsky, Co-founder and CEO of Graphite, delves into the future of code review and AI's role in it. He discusses how AI dramatically increases the volume of pull requests and how Graphite's Agent provides instant feedback, helping catch bugs and enforce rules. Merrill also highlights the importance of context in AI reviews and the evolving role of developers as orchestrators of these technologies. He emphasizes that code review remains critical for knowledge sharing and learning, even as AI tools advance.
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Oct 14, 2025 • 46min
AI-First Project Management for Developers | Alex Gavrilescu on Backlog.md
Alexandru Gavrilescu, lead engineer and creator of Backlog.md, dives into innovative AI-driven project management. He discusses the crucial role of clear specifications for effective AI coding and how persistent agents can autonomously manage tasks. The conversation highlights the need to re-evaluate Agile methodologies in light of AI's capabilities, emphasizing the shift towards disposable software and faster prototyping. Alex also explores the balance of human review and automated processes, forecasting a future where agents continually coordinate tasks and improve efficiency.
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Oct 7, 2025 • 51min
Redefining Developer Workflows in the AI Era with MCP | Steve Manuel
Steve Manuel, Founder and CEO of Delibso, discusses the groundbreaking MCP protocol that ensures safe AI integrations. He explains how mcp.run allows developers to utilize shared servers without losing control, making experimentation safer. Manuel highlights the importance of plugin-safe AI for developer tools, the risks of untrusted MCP servers, and emphasizes that first-party code remains crucial in the AI landscape. Additional insights include automating workflows and the potential of multimedia interactions, redefining how applications function in the AI era.
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Sep 30, 2025 • 53min
How Slack AI Agents Accelerate Dev Productivity | Samuel Messing
In this conversation with Samuel Messing, VP of Engineering for Search and AI at Slack, listeners dive into the world of enterprise AI. Samuel emphasizes the critical role of context in enhancing productivity and reducing information overload. He highlights the innovative ‘AI Explain’ feature that synthesizes information for quicker comprehension. The discussion also touches on compliance measures for data safety, AI's role in development workflows, and the importance of curiosity and critical thinking as essential skills for future developers.
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Sep 23, 2025 • 1h 2min
Can Agentic Engineering Really Deliver Enterprise-Grade Code? | Reuven Cohen
Reuven Cohen, founder of the Agentics Foundation and creator of Claude Flow, explores the transformative potential of agentic engineering. He reveals why 2025 is dubbed the 'Year of the Agent' and discusses how the discipline is evolving from niche to mainstream. The conversation dives into the challenges of AI-washing in big corporations, the intricate balance of speed, quality, and cost in agent-based development, and how community-driven efforts can safeguard innovation against corporate dominance.
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Sep 16, 2025 • 38min
Revolutionising Spec-Driven Development with Tessl’s Framework & Registry
Developers often spend more time fixing AI agent mistakes than creating features. Discover two groundbreaking tools from Tessl aimed at making specs the cornerstone of software development. Learn how a new dependency system for AI agents can streamline workflows and improve output validation. The hosts dive into the concept of 'vibe speccing' and the significance of community involvement in refining these innovations. Tune in for insights on navigating today's complexities in software development and the future of spec-driven practices.
Sep 9, 2025 • 1h 5min
The Man Behind World’s Largest Dev Con | Stephan & Devoxx
Stephan Janssen, the founder of Devoxx and JavaPolis, discusses the 'renaissance of development' shaped by AI-native workflows. He shares how vibe coding drastically reduces setup time and why 'spec to code' approaches improve outcomes. The conversation highlights the importance of AI tools for junior developers as universal tutors and the emergence of innovative agents set to dominate the Devoxx Belgium 2025 agenda. Janssen also explores the evolving role of tech conferences in today's AI landscape, emphasizing the need for balance between automation and robust specification.
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Sep 2, 2025 • 57min
Is Your Team Ready for AI-Driven Modernization? | Birgitta Böckeler
Birgitta Böckeler, a Distinguished Engineer at ThoughtWorks and expert in AI-driven software development, shares her insights on legacy modernization. She discusses the limitations of relying solely on AI for code migration, emphasizing the need for proven engineering practices. The conversation addresses the evolving roles of developers as managers of AI workflows and the need for a disciplined approach to refactor instead of rewrite. Birgitta highlights the importance of balancing AI creativity with deterministic tools for successful legacy transitions.
