

Travis Makes Money
Travis Chappell
You can't save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.
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Aug 6, 2025 • 26min
Make Money by Job Stacking | Delaney William
Delaney William is the founder of Elevated Tech, a coaching and done-for-you service that’s helped 120+ professionals (from Meta, Google, Netflix, Airbnb, and more) land high-paying remote jobs—often more than one at the same time. After scaling his own income from $80K to nearly $400K/year by "job stacking," Delaney built a 7-figure business now generating $120K/month, proving you don’t need to wait decades for financial freedom if you’re willing to think (and work) outside the box.
Top 3 Takeaways
Stacking jobs is the ultimate “side hustle” for skilled professionals: If you have in-demand skills, you can often double or triple your income—without killing yourself, without building a business from scratch, simply by getting more remote jobs and “work hacking” your calendar.
It’s a game of volume and ROI: Success is about finding roles that care about output, not hours, and being ruthless about using tech, systems, and (if needed) inexpensive assistants to handle repetitive or low-value tasks.
Discipline is key: The real path to freedom comes from keeping your lifestyle expenses in check even as your income rises—invest the surplus, don’t inflate your spending.
Connect with Delaney William:
Website & Done-For-You Services: elevatedtech.us
Instagram: @delaneywilliam_
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Aug 5, 2025 • 34min
Make Friends with Dr. Jeff Gross | TMF Preview
In this preview of the Travis Makes Friends podcast, host Travis dives deep into health, longevity, and biohacking with Dr. Jeffrey Gross, a renowned neurological surgeon and regenerative medicine expert. From the truth about GLP-1 peptides and testosterone therapy to debunking cholesterol myths and exploring stem cell treatments, this conversation unpacks cutting-edge insights for optimizing your health. Tune in for practical tips and a no-nonsense take on navigating modern medicine!
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Aug 4, 2025 • 29min
Make Money with Trading | JJ Kinahan
JJ Kinahan is the CEO of IG North America, overseeing Tastytrade, Tastycrypto, and Tasty Live, and is a veteran of over 30 years in the financial markets. From his early days shoveling snow for neighbors in Chicago to trading options on the bustling floor of the CBOE, JJ brings real-world experience and a deep understanding of market cycles, entrepreneurship, and the shifting investing landscape.
On this episode we talk about:
JJ’s journey from a fourth-grade snow-shoveling hustler in Chicago to CEO and respected financial educator
Lessons from his immigrant family upbringing, navigating a blue-collar path to college (thanks to baseball) and seizing an unplanned opportunity that redirected his career into trading
The value of saying “yes” to new experiences—especially early in your career—and why breaking into offices, showing up, and staying open are career-changing moves
Why the status and stigma against the trades is fading, with skilled labor now highly respected and compensated (“plumbers charge like lawyers—as they should!”)
The evolution of JJ’s career: from summer clerk at the options exchange to running trading operations and eventually leading Tastytrade and Tastycrypto
Tasty Live’s mission of financial education: daily free live content empowering retail investors with practical, actionable trading and risk management education
JJ’s active investing toolbox: stocks, options, futures, forex, crypto, real estate, and small business investing, plus the importance of “tuition” (learning cheaply when you’re new)
Step-by-step practicals: how non-professionals can use conservative options strategies like covered calls and puts to enhance returns on stocks they already own
The real way to build wealth: small habits over a long time; why “get rich quick” always ends badly, and the importance of financial discipline
Why starting small, managing risk, and knowing your downside before you act are the keys to surviving—and eventually thriving—as an investor
Top 3 Takeaways
Seize Opportunity and Say “Yes” Early: Careers—in trading or elsewhere—are built by showing up, embracing new experiences, and being available when opportunity knocks.
Discipline and Risk Management are Everything: Start small, define your worst-case scenario, and don’t let emotions (or others’ hype) dictate your investments.
Wealth is Built Slowly, Not Speculatively: There are no shortcuts. Learn, automate good habits, and put your money to work without betting the farm.
Notable Quotes
“People will pay you for things they don’t want to do themselves.”
“If somebody cracks the door, just beat it down and keep going until somebody tells you to stop.”
“If anyone’s telling you there’s an instant way to make money—run. There’s always risk and reward.”
“Financial discipline is not a game—risk not thy whole lot!”
Connect with JJ Kinahan:
Free financial markets education: TastyLive.com
Brokerage and trading platform: Tastytrade.com
Disclosure: Options involve risk and are not suitable for all investors as the special risks inherent to options trading may expose investors to potentially significant losses. Please read Characteristics and Risks of Standardized Options at tastytrade.com/disclosures before deciding to invest in options.
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Aug 3, 2025 • 30min
Make Money and Have an Impact | Neil Ghosh
Neil Ghosh is a proven leader who has spent 30+ years launching and scaling both nonprofit and for-profit ventures—all in service of meaningful impact. With work spanning over 50 countries, Neil brings unique experience bridging humanitarian mission and entrepreneurial rigor. His journey is a testament to how passion, adaptability, and value creation fuel both personal fulfillment and real-world change.
On this episode we talk about:
First hustle and immigrant experience: Neil’s first jobs in America were cleaning kitchens and waiting tables—not glamorous, but foundational. As a new immigrant from Calcutta, India, he learned resilience, patience, and the lesson that any work can be a platform for excellence and opportunity.
Foundational life lessons: Echoing his mother’s mantra, “If you’re going to sweep a floor, sweep it well,” Neil developed a career-long commitment to doing the best work possible—no matter the role.
Mindset principles for impact and growth:
Reinvention: Always strive to become the best version of yourself, regardless of circumstance or job title.
Passion as a transferable skill: Carry enthusiasm wherever you go—passion for your work attracts allies, mentors, and opportunities.
Mentorship’s multiplying effect: Seek mentors and be a mentor. The more you give, the more returns in unexpected ways.
Empathy as a strategic advantage: Empathy is not just a “soft” skill—it's a superpower in building trust, partnerships, and team cohesion.
Brand (including failure): Authenticity and a willingness to share failures build a personal brand that is relatable and trustworthy.
On getting mentorship and opportunity: The best mentors look for mentees who show grit, passion, and a willingness to add value in any position. Exceptional performance, even in “menial” jobs, is what gets you noticed and sponsored.
Advice for ambitious newcomers: Don’t expect entitlement; own your success by excelling wherever you start. Opportunity follows attitude and effort.
Nonprofit vs. for-profit for “doing good”
Top 3 Takeaways
Do Good Wherever You Are: “Doing good” isn’t dependent on working for a nonprofit—you can create impact in any career by showing up, helping others, and standing for something meaningful.
Mentorship and Passion Create Results: The combination of a mentor’s insight and a mentee’s work ethic unlocks opportunity and advancement at every level.
Operate with Business Rigor, Even in Nonprofits: Sustainability, efficiency, and accountability are just as important in the impact sector as they are in the for-profit world.
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Aug 2, 2025 • 25min
Make Money with Sales and Leadership Coaching | Marc Nudelberg
Marc Nudelberg’s journey bridges high-level athletics and entrepreneurship. Having started in the pressure-cooker of college football coaching, Marc now leads On The Ball as president, transforming it into a renowned sales and leadership coaching company. His passion: helping individuals and organizations cultivate high-performance cultures, modern business development strategies, and the “1% better every day” mindset.
On this episode we talk about:
First lessons in helping and performance: Even as a child, Marc instinctively motivated others to move on from past successes and focus on continuous improvement.
The power of sweat equity: At Florida State, he sacrificed high-paying family business opportunities to coach football and learn through action—not expecting pay, but investing in growth and relationships.
Pursuing passion over profit (at first): Rather than follow the traditional (and easier) route to money, Marc chose to chase what truly interested him—understanding that real value comes from helping others, not simply chasing sales.
Navigating big career choices: Given the chance to coach after college (at the poverty line), Marc chose passion over immediate money—knowing it was a now-or-never opportunity.
Ten years in coaching = real-world MBA: From the realities of being fired to the requirement of always expanding his network, Marc learned resilience, adaptability, and how to thrive in chaotic environments—lessons that seamlessly translated into business and entrepreneurship.
Modern sales mastery: After leaving coaching, he spearheaded business development for ESPN's local markets, winning rookie of the year by deploying modern outbound strategies—using LinkedIn, video, and personalized outreach, not just cold calls/emails.
Leadership at On The Ball: Marc and his family have reimagined the company: from marketing agency to a human development, sales, and leadership training firm devoted to building high-impact, high-performance communities.
The entrepreneur's edge: True entrepreneurship is about proactively shaping your life—taking personal responsibility, leveraging your network, and turning adversity into opportunity. Marc highlights that this path is now more accessible than ever, but only works if you root what you do in real passion and purpose.
**#1 skill for making moreoney today: Communication. Marc emphasizes mastering video, digital presence, and conversational skills as the highest-leverage ability for anyone looking to start, grow, or pivot a business.
Step one for side-hustlers: Start talking! Whether your idea is still just an idea or you’re refining a side hustle, sharing it (in person, on video, or via email) is the only way to validate opportunities and turn intention into income.
Top 3 Takeaways
Sweat Equity First, Money Follows: Early-stage investment in skills, network, and helping others lays the foundation for outsized future earnings.
Communication Is the Ultimate Multiplier: Video, digital presence, and clear messaging are the fastest path to attention, opportunity, and sales in the modern economy.
Tie Profit to Purpose: Only those who connect what they do to what motivates them—personally or professionally—will persist through adversity and build something meaningful.
Connect with Marc Nudelberg:
https://ontheball.co/
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Aug 1, 2025 • 24min
Make Money with the Home Run Financial System | Mike Milan
Mike Milan—better known as Cash Flow Mike—is a former state trooper turned serial entrepreneur who’s built 14 businesses and helped generate more than $50 million in improved cash flow for clients. His “Home Run Financial System” has been taught to over 25,000 bankers, accountants, and business owners, specializing in unlocking hidden cash, controlling growth, and transforming profitability into real, usable money.
On this episode we talk about:
Early work ethic: Mike’s first jobs included 5+ years as a dishwasher, busboy, waiter, and bartender—roles that forced him out of his comfort zone and developed world-class people skills he credits for much of his later business success.
The people advantage: Why real-world, high-contact service jobs (sales, restaurants, bar tending, etc.) build skills and confidence that pay dividends for a lifetime—arguably more than most college classes.
Career pivots, family, and mindset: Mike became a Texas state trooper after college, enjoying the physical challenge and structure. But with a rapidly growing family (four daughters!), he soon realized that even a "secure" government job—with mapped-out raises and guaranteed pensions—was never going to match their expenses or aspirations.
The leap to entrepreneurship: Despite "golden handcuffs" and the risk of leaving behind a salary, benefits, and security, Mike left his state position at age 29. He candidly discusses the fear, sacrifice, and tradeoffs required—but also the freedom and upside that followed.
How he did it: Mike’s transition to business owner started with a janitorial company (using military and law enforcement skills for discipline and attention to detail). When a client asked him to help recruit reliable workers, he identified a more leveraged model—staffing and placement for hotels—which allowed him to scale without personally doing all the cleaning.
The cash flow difference: Mike explains the practicalities of launching a business as a parent—leaning on savings, maxing out credit cards, and maintaining razor-sharp focus. He underscores how true cash flow (not just accounting profit) lets businesses—and families—survive and thrive.
Actionable advice: It is never "too late" to start over. The stories of Dave Thomas (Wendy’s) and Colonel Sanders are reminders that the entrepreneurial window is always open if you’re willing to take the risk, sacrifice, and learn new skills.
The Home Run Financial System: Mike’s system transforms intimidating financials into step-by-step strategies for real-world business owners—because profit doesn’t pay the bills, cash does.
Family, finances, and risk: For listeners with mouths to feed and bills to pay, Mike unpacks how he navigated saving, borrowing, and mitigating risk—acknowledging that while it’s never easy, the upside is worth it.
Top 3 Takeaways
Soft Skills Unlock Hard Money: Jobs that force you to interact with thousands of people (restaurant, sales, service) prepare you for entrepreneurship better than any textbook.
You Can’t Cut Your Way to Wealth: There’s a limit to how much you can save—at some point you must focus on income expansion, risk, and leveraging opportunity.
There’s No Perfect Moment, Only a Leap: Whether you’re 29 (like Mike), 49, or 59, the decision to leave "security" for self-employment is always hard—but it’s often the right move, even with a family and established life.
Connect with Mike Milan:
https://cashflowmike.com/
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Jul 31, 2025 • 28min
Make Money with Classic Car Events | Darin Roberge
Darin Roberge is a veteran executive, analyst, and thought leader in the collector and classic car scene. As president of Motor Works Marketing, publisher of the Z 260 newsletter series, and current caretaker of Arizona Car Week, Darin has helped shape the future of America’s most iconic car events while championing nonprofit causes and classic car culture.
On this episode we talk about:
Early hustle lessons: From picking up dog poop at a humane society to refereeing youth basketball, Darin learned early the value of doing work you genuinely care about—and how passion can shape a career.
Pursuing what you love: Darin’s entire professional life has revolved around his core interests—animals, guitars, cars, and motorcycles. He describes his path not as accidental, but as a blend of deliberate choices and seizing “right place, right time” opportunities.
Unusual entry to the car business: After attending car auctions for years, a fateful incident (his girlfriend slipping and falling on a car at an event) led to a backstage introduction to the CEO of Russo and Steele. Within months, Darin went from punk rock frontman and nightclub promotions to a leadership role at one of the industry’s major auction houses.
Reinvention and loss: The sudden career shift wasn’t easy—Darin lost friendships and faced accusations of “selling out.” He discusses the emotional fallout, what it means to outgrow old circles, and why ultimately you’re the only one responsible for making decisions that serve your future self.
Mindset and skill-building: Darin credits humility, a willingness to learn, and constantly offering value as his keys to success, both in the boardroom and as a leader in car culture.
Leveling up in the industry: Now as the head of Arizona Car Week, Darin has tripled the size of the event, rallying the local community to create a car show that includes 30+ events—many of them free—making the culture accessible to everyone, not just millionaire collectors.
Community impact: Arizona Car Week is a $300M economic engine for the region, supporting jobs, tourism, schools, and local infrastructure.
Nonprofit innovation: Darin’s newest ventures—Motor Works Gives and Classic Cars for Nonprofits—offer zero-cost, low-lift fundraising programs to help organizations monetize car donations and auction opportunities, raising over $25M for more than 40 organizations since 2018.
Key advice: Life is long, and you’re never “locked in.” If you’re facing a major (possibly terrifying) change, be tough, stay open, seek positive outside passions (like boxing or music), and surround yourself with people who help you evolve.
Top 3 Takeaways
Don’t Wait for Permission—Make Your Own Luck: Sometimes radical life changes—no matter how uncomfortable—open doors to once-in-a-lifetime opportunities.
Community and Flexibility Matter: Listening to your audience, staying humble, and being willing to adapt are essential for building lasting business and personal impact.
Work That Means Something—To You and Others: Forget “get rich quick.” If you stay engaged with work you care about and strive to help your community, profit and fulfillment follow.
Connect with Darin Roberge:
https://www.instagram.com/darinmotorwerks/?hl=en
https://motorwerksmarketing.com/darinroberge/
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Jul 30, 2025 • 30min
Make Money with Agencies | Eli Rubel
Eli Rubel is a serial entrepreneur, best known as the "Agency Profitability Guy." Since 2020, his portfolio of agencies has produced over $9.8M in profits—all while maintaining part-time hours and full-time freedom. In this episode, Eli breaks down exactly how anyone can build (or scale) a service business—plus what it takes to turn it into a lifestyle asset that runs without you.
On this episode we talk about:
Eli’s entrepreneurial roots: setting up a photo studio in his parents’ garage, learning the lessons of low-wage jobs (room service at an hourly motel), and how early initiative shaped his career vision
Starting and scaling agencies: from his first agency, Matter Made (a B2B performance marketing shop), to No Boring Design (brand/design for SaaS companies), and Profit Labs (helping agency owners boost profit margins)
Why agency services are the ideal scalable side hustle: you can start solo as a freelancer, ramp up to replace (or surpass) your day-job income, and ultimately build a seven-figure company with qualified operators
The proven roadmap for new agency founders: identify in-demand services (paid media, design, marketing automation, sales support, cold email, etc.), connect with industry experts, and model the playbook on what works—no need to reinvent the wheel
Eli’s personal story: pivoting from CEO of VC-backed startups and e-commerce turnarounds to building cash-generating, low-stress agencies that let him spend more time with family ("the tricycle life")
The playbook: how Eli went from $0 to $40,000/month in personal net income within three months by leveraging his network, hiring great operators, and focusing on what he does best—relationships, vision, and assembling world-class teams
The agency profit formula: stop doing the technical work yourself, hire/partner with people you trust, and empower them to do what you can’t (or won’t)
Why AI is about to disrupt agencies—why you should “make hay while there’s hay to be made,” but prepare for a new wave where niche expertise and AI/automation consulting become the next big opportunities
How AI agencies (helping local businesses implement and automate with tools like HighLevel) could be the new “social media agency” gold rush for ambitious, young, or tech-savvy entrepreneurs
Eli’s advice: focus first on what’s proven to bring in revenue, then use your earnings and freedom to pursue higher-purpose projects or passion businesses down the road
Top 3 Takeaways
Agencies Offer Scalable, Flexible Income: Proven models like paid media, design, and marketing are easy to start and scale—no reinvention needed, just execution and networking.
Play to Your Unique Strengths: Don’t force yourself to do what you hate—partner with those who are better at the technical work, and focus on your unique edge (relationships, vision, operations, deal-making).
AI is the Next Massive Opportunity: Traditional agencies will be squeezed by AI, but that creates demand for those who can help small businesses adopt, automate, and run leaner-than-ever operations.
Notable Quotes
“Within three months we’d already surpassed my goal—$40,000 a month net income—and by three years, we’d produced $7M in profit.”
“I have never deployed a single client dollar or been inside of a client’s ad account since 2020. My superpower is assembling great people and letting them win.”
“Soon, AI will put 80% of agency businesses out of business. But if you get great at implementing it for specific niches today, there are millions to be made.”
Connect with Eli Rubel:
Website: https://www.elirubel.com/
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Jul 29, 2025 • 27min
Make Money by Building Teams for Advisory Firms | Steven Perry
Steven Perry’s story is one of grit, reinvention, and making the leap—from commercial fishing in Alaska at 14, to making nearly $1M/year running Fortune 100 teams, then burning the boats to launch his own recruiting firm. As founder of The Well Recruiting Solutions, he now builds revenue-generating teams for advisory firms, aiming to empower 1,000+ clients by 2030.
On this episode we talk about:
Early hustle: commercial fishing in Alaska, learning at 14 the difference between working for a check and owning the business
His first true entrepreneurial venture—sealing driveways, scaling a six-figure business by the end of college, and the lesson he learned when he simply shut it down instead of selling it
Why Steven ultimately turned down a prestigious ROTC scholarship and a Navy career path to pursue entrepreneurship and finance
His entry into financial services, starting as an intern at New York Life, becoming a top-producing advisor, and why being surrounded by high performers forced him to level up
Lessons from sales and financial advising—mastering rejection, discipline, and the numbers game ("Whoever’s willing to be told 'no' the most wins fastest")
How being in the right environment and seeing other people succeed reframed what's possible, pushing him to greater heights
Reaching financial milestones by 30—making $500K/yr, giving away and saving large percentages, but discovering money alone doesn't bring fulfillment or lasting happiness
The personal finance strategy that enabled freedom: maximizing cash value life insurance and variable universal life for tax-free, flexible, and compound growth (plus why he prefers guaranteed accounts over variable for business owners)
Navigating the transition out of a lucrative corporate job: searching for purpose, listening to intuition, and eventually being "pushed" into launching his own firm after a job opportunity disappeared
How The Well Recruiting Solutions emerged from listening, networking, and recognizing a deep need for white-glove recruiting in wealth management; now scaled to nearly 30 employees with a future goal of $1B in revenue
The difference between grinding for someone else and building for yourself—now hiring for his strengths and delegating everything else for maximum impact and fulfillment
Top 3 Takeaways
Ownership > High Salary: Building long-term wealth and fulfillment comes from owning and growing businesses, not just earning a high paycheck.
Skill Stacks Compound: Every job, network, and hard moment (from fishing boats to insurance sales) built the resilience and expertise needed for entrepreneurial success.
Freedom is Designed: Smart moves—like flexible, tax-efficient investments—enable you to take risks, start over, and say yes to your true calling without fear.
Notable Quotes
“I looked up and had a great income, but I didn’t own anything. The day I left was the day there was no more equity, no more income.”
“Whoever’s willing to be embarrassed, to be told no, the most—wins the fastest.”
“If you operate in your gifting all day, you’ll be more profitable and productive. Now, if I don’t want to do something, I can hire someone who does it better and faster.”
Connect with Steven Perry:
Recruiting for advisory/financial services: The Well Recruiting Solutions https://thewell.solutions/
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Jul 28, 2025 • 24min
Make Money with All-Natural Supplements | Larry Puckett
Larry Puckett is a world-renowned venture capitalist and entrepreneur who’s grown businesses from humble beginnings to multi-million dollar companies in finance, technology, distribution, and now all-natural supplements. Despite starting with very little, Larry’s career arc is one of persistence, reinvention, and finding repeatable success—especially when life (and business) go sideways.
On this episode we talk about:
Growing up with hardworking parents, learning about scarcity, and developing a relentless work ethic cutting lawns and hustling for every dollar
Learning (by necessity) that hard work doesn’t always equal good money—and why working harder for someone else isn’t the long-term answer
Early entrepreneurial setbacks: pouring money into a golf apparel company without building an audience, failing fast, and picking up critical lessons for the next time
The first real business win: starting an industrial lighting company that grew by focusing on client relationships and solving a basic, boring problem better than competitors
Missing the “obvious”—the lesson in seeing (or overlooking) the next big vertical when you’re too close to your own business
Making the leap (twice) from a steady, high-paying job to bet it all on a vision: burning the bridges, sacrificing luxuries, selling personal items, and even delivering groceries to keep the dream alive
The challenge and opportunity of entrepreneurship at 50+—why it’s never too late to dream bigger or set a new example for your kids (and grandkids)
Evolving from MLM to corporate roles, then to launching Theon Global—a debt-free, e-commerce supplement brand that went profitable in its first three days entirely through organic, audience-first marketing
Mistakes in business partnerships, trusting too fast, and learning that doing it yourself (with the right people) is often best
The importance of a mission-driven business: helping people live healthier lives with all-natural, all-organic alternatives
Top 3 Takeaways
You’re Never “Too Late”: Larry relaunched at age 50+—after big wins and major losses—proving age and circumstance are rarely the true barriers to entrepreneurship.
Boring Businesses Can Bring Big Wins: Success doesn’t require inventing the next “hot” thing; doing the basics better than anyone else is a winning formula.
Risk is Required—But Stack the Deck: Burn the bridges if you must, but minimize regret by preparing financially, learning from every setback, and building around proven audiences.
Notable Quotes
“We just stopped cold turkey...but about nine months in, it went from a lot of money to nothing. That’s when we decided: there’s no going back. We’re burning the bridge and selling everything.”
“You only lose if you quit. And the regret of not doing it will always outweigh the risk of trying.”
“Business is about fundamentals: solve real problems, build audiences, create something people need—then serve your customers and your team really, really well.”
Connect with Larry Puckett:
Website & Products: theonglobal.com
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