Agency Business

Brian Wieser and Olivia Morley
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9 snips
Nov 17, 2025 • 44min

#47: Fixing agency productivity in the age of AI, with Michael Farmer

Michael Farmer, a consultant and author with 30 years in agency economics, shares his insights on productivity challenges in agencies. He discusses how measuring work is crucial to understanding profitability and highlights the impact of excess staffing and rework. Farmer predicts AI could enhance creative productivity significantly but warns it might lead to fee compression. He emphasizes the need for agencies to reinvest AI savings into senior talent and calls for a focus on strategic growth rather than just creativity.
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Nov 10, 2025 • 28min

#46: Why confidence is a KPI for independent agencies, with Indie Agency News founder Doug Zanger

Doug Zanger, founder of Indie Agency News, shares his journey from radio producer to agency advocate. He emphasizes that confidence should be a key performance indicator for agencies. They explore the importance of visibility, innovative tools like First Pass for optimizing press, and how agencies can better communicate their value. Doug also discusses the rise of partnerships among indie agencies, the role of AI in enhancing collaboration, and why storytelling is crucial for growth.
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9 snips
Nov 3, 2025 • 36min

#45: How Day One Agency builds trust in the age of influence, with CEO Josh Rosenberg

Josh Rosenberg, Co-founder and CEO of Day One Agency, delves into the concept of 'earned creativity' and its significance in today's landscape. He shares insights on understanding Gen Z and Gen Alpha through their research initiatives. The importance of curiosity in hiring new talent is highlighted, alongside the agency's innovative Learning Fund for employee growth. With a nimble structure, Day One focuses on deep creative partnerships rather than a media practice, investing in editorial assets like podcasts to fuel ongoing learning and client engagement.
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4 snips
Oct 27, 2025 • 17min

#44: How to sell or buy an independent media agency, with former Media Experts CEO Mark Sherman

Mark Sherman, founder and former CEO of Media Experts, shares his insights on the dynamics of independent versus holdco agencies. He discusses the challenges and opportunities for new large independents emerging today. Mark emphasizes how independent agencies can outpace their corporate counterparts through culture, agility, and bravery. He delves into M&A strategies, advising sellers to maintain their confidence and encouraging buyers to appreciate independent strengths. Mark also highlights the critical operational aspects that underpin agency success.
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12 snips
Oct 20, 2025 • 40min

#43: Building a lasting independent agency, with Venables Bell & Partners’ Paul Venables

Paul Venables, founder and chairman of the San Francisco creative agency Venables Bell & Partners, shares insights on maintaining agency independence and his mantra of 'doing right by people.' He discusses the importance of hiring for cultural fit and how VB&P evaluates client chemistry, even turning down business when it doesn't align. Paul highlights the agency's innovative use of AI in production and the belief that growth isn't the only goal—stability and culture matter too. Finally, he reflects on the impact of San Francisco's evolving creative scene.
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12 snips
Oct 13, 2025 • 37min

#42: Building a differentiated agency — with Robin Bonn of Co:definery

Robin Bonn, founder and CEO of Co:definery, specializes in repositioning agencies and is also the host of The Immortal Life of Agencies. He delves into the common confusion between positioning and branding, emphasizing that true differentiation runs deeper. Bonn discusses how independent agencies can leverage scale and cautions against the dangers of sameness. He explores how AI is transforming agency business models and stresses the importance of culture in determining long-term success. For Bonn, being truly differentiated means more than just a catchy tagline.
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10 snips
Oct 6, 2025 • 39min

#41: Inside Allen & Gerritsen: Andrew Graff on leading an independent agency and creative growth

Andrew Graff, CEO of Boston's Allen & Gerritsen, combines his expertise in behavioral science with creativity to drive success. He shares insights on fostering a curiosity-driven culture and the importance of hiring talent from psychology and social sciences. Graff discusses the balance between data and creativity, partnerships for independence, and the competitive edge curiosity brings to agencies. He also touches on how AI can enhance efficiency while preserving originality, and the increasing growth of independent agencies over larger holding companies.
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8 snips
Sep 29, 2025 • 41min

#40: Inside agency reviews, compensation models, and AI’s impact — with Rachel Huff

In this engaging conversation, Rachel Huff, founder of Victoire & Co., shares her expertise on agency search consulting, emphasizing the shift towards specialist partners. She discusses how AI is transforming agency roles and budgets, cautioning against exaggerated claims by agencies. Rachel highlights the importance of transparency and the demand for flexible compensation models. With insights on varying client needs from Fortune 100 firms to nonprofits, she reveals that CMOs increasingly prioritize solving business problems over flashy creative.
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9 snips
Sep 22, 2025 • 39min

#39: Campaign’s Luz Corona on the Rise of Indie Agencies and the Changing Trade Landscape

In this discussion, Luz Corona, the Editor of Campaign US, reveals her insights into the advertising agency landscape. She highlights the surge of independent agencies as they challenge traditional holding companies, emphasizing personalization and transparency. The conversation turns to AI's transformative effects on staffing and creative processes. Luz also identifies sports marketing as the next frontier for growth, where both indie firms and holding companies vie for attention. Finally, she delves into the latest agency news and what it means for the future of the industry.
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8 snips
Sep 15, 2025 • 28min

#38: How AKQA EMEA Is Evolving Under WPP Integration and AI Transformation — Geoff Northcott

In this discussion, Geoff Northcott, CEO of AKQA in EMEA, shares his insights from 18 years at the creative-tech crossroads. He dives into the agency's evolution amidst leadership changes and WPP integration, revealing how AI is reshaping client services and staffing models. Geoff highlights the delicate balance between autonomy and scale in creative agencies and the importance of training and partnerships in leveraging new technologies. He also touches on political dynamics impacting cross-border talent and the implications for the advertising industry.

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