

Agency Business
Brian Wieser and Olivia Morley
Agency Business is a podcast about ad agencies, from media industry analysts Brian Wieser and Olivia Morley. In our interviews with agency CEOs and industry experts, we explain the week's agency news and provide the context you need to navigate the business. Check it out on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Sep 8, 2025 • 33min
#37: How James Dale Scaled Sine Digital in Broadway and the West End
James Dale, CEO of Sine Group and Sine Digital, shares his unconventional journey from musician to digital agency leader in live entertainment. He discusses the challenges artists face in the streaming era, emphasizing data ownership and performance marketing. Dale reveals how Sine Digital grew rapidly by focusing on niche services for Broadway and West End productions. He also examines the industry's volatility, managing talent during sudden show closures, and the importance of specialized strategies in a competitive landscape.

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Sep 1, 2025 • 35min
#36: From The Richards Group to Independence: Pedro Lerma’s Agency Playbook
Pedro Lerma, CEO and founder of LERMA/, shares his remarkable journey from selling radio spots to leading a top independent agency. He dives into the importance of multicultural marketing and introduces the concept of 'cultural fluency' to help brands connect with diverse communities without losing legacy customers. Pedro discusses the challenges of running an independent agency in today's politically charged climate and reflects on how his experiences at The Richards Group shaped his approach to inclusivity and client relations.

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Aug 25, 2025 • 37min
#35: Why Mid-Size Agencies Have an Edge, With Kat Ott of Havas Chicago
Kat Ott, President of Havas Chicago and former professional ballerina, shares her unique journey into advertising. She discusses how mid-size agencies like hers can adapt swiftly in a competitive market. Kat dives into the process of winning major pitches and the importance of strong agency-client relationships. The conversation touches on the evolving role of marketers, the integration of media and creative strategies, and the impact of AI in the industry. Her insights reveal how agility and collaboration revolutionize agency operations.

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Aug 18, 2025 • 31min
#34: Anthropology, Independence, and Growth at Kelly Scott Madison, with President Chad Maxwell
Chad Maxwell, President of Kelly Scott Madison, brings a unique perspective to advertising, rooted in his background in anthropology. He discusses how understanding human behavior shapes hiring and client strategies. Maxwell also delves into the agency's balance between independence and partnerships in the creative realm, as well as the impact of geography on staffing and client interactions. He emphasizes the importance of relationships over budgets when navigating platform support, shedding light on the agency's approach to growth and culture.

Aug 11, 2025 • 37min
#33: Building a Social-First Ad Agency — Movement Strategy CEO Jason Mitchell
Jason Mitchell, CEO of Movement Strategy, shares his journey in launching one of the first social media agencies. He discusses how early competitive pricing gave them an edge and how the agency evolved from social work into comprehensive creative projects. Jason emphasizes the power of creator marketing through relationships and platform tools. He also reveals their innovative pod-based structure for agility and investments in AI, alongside strategies for international growth, all while navigating the changing landscape of the advertising industry.

Aug 4, 2025 • 28min
#32: The Business of Comedy in Advertising, with Party Land’s Haley Hunter
Haley Hunter, co-founder and CMO of Party Land, discusses how her comedy-forward agency is changing the face of advertising. She shares insights on embedding humor into campaigns for brands like Liquid Death and Google, and the importance of maintaining a joyful work environment. Haley also addresses the complexities of corporate growth metrics and highlights how a human touch is essential in an AI-driven landscape. With a focus on adaptability and strategic growth, she reveals how Party Land stands out in a crowded market.

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Jul 28, 2025 • 27min
#31: Inside MediaLink With Andrea Kerr Redniss: Agency Reviews, UTA Synergies, and Strategic Growth
Andrea Kerr Redniss, managing director at MediaLink, shares her insights on the transformation of marketing consultancy. She discusses how MediaLink collaborates with Fortune 100 brands, driving marketing transformation and AI integration. The concept of 'agency therapy' and the strategic relationship with UTA are highlighted. They also explore the evolving dynamics of agency partnerships and the impact of account losses on agency revenue. Redniss emphasizes the need for transparency and adaptability within the industry, showcasing the shifting landscape of brand-agency relationships.

Jul 21, 2025 • 32min
#30: Inside M+C Saatchi Americas’ Growth Strategy, With CEO Nadja Bellan-White
Nadja Bellan-White, Group CEO of M+C Saatchi Americas, discusses her agency's unique approach to remaining agile in a rapidly changing market. She highlights how M+C Saatchi competes across various disciplines while minimizing overhead through effective strategy sessions. The conversation touches on the impact of AI on talent and pricing, as well as the industry trend towards smaller RFPs. Nadja also shares insights on navigating client relationships and the challenges of being publicly traded in a landscape dominated by private agencies.

Jul 14, 2025 • 39min
#29: How FCB New York Leverages Its Autonomy
Emma Armstrong, CEO of FCB New York, discusses the agency's innovative approach to autonomy and collaboration. She emphasizes the significance of evolving operational structures and maintaining a strong creative reputation. Key topics include the effects of AI on brand fundamentals and the importance of diversity in cultivating a supportive culture. Armstrong also shares insights on agency turnover, the debate between project and retainer work, and the future of client collaboration, all while advocating for psychological safety within teams.

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Jun 30, 2025 • 41min
#28: What Chase Design Group Built After Losing Its Founder
Chris Lowery, president of Chase Design Group, shares his insights on transforming the agency from a small operation to a global powerhouse. He reflects on the legacy of founder Margo Chase and how they've navigated growth without acquisitions. The conversation touches on the importance of a flat leadership structure and the agency's unique approach to maintaining brand consistency. Chris also discusses the impact of AI on design and the challenges of adapting to industry changes, including remote work and ethical advertising practices.