

MSP Business School
MSP Business School
A podcast geared to Technology Service Providers where we bring you strategies and tactics to grow your business and build a winning culture.
This podcast helps MSPs and MSSPs accelerate their business through strategies, tips, and tactics for driving sales, marketing, and account management.
Join our host, Brian Doyle, every Tuesday!
This podcast helps MSPs and MSSPs accelerate their business through strategies, tips, and tactics for driving sales, marketing, and account management.
Join our host, Brian Doyle, every Tuesday!
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Apr 30, 2024 • 37min
Preventing Cybercrime Why Every Business Needs to Prioritize Cybersecurity
In this informative episode of MSP Business School, host Brian Doyle engages in conversation with cybersecurity expert Matt Quammen, President of Optimized Cyber. Together, they unravel the intricate world of cyber protection, showcasing the significance of safeguarding businesses in today's digital age. This dialogue invites listeners to explore the realms of vulnerability scanning and penetration testing, emphasizing their roles in maintaining robust security infrastructures. Quammen emphasizes the importance of remembering 'why' businesses must prioritize cybersecurity – to prevent the crippling financial losses that cybercrimes can inflict. As a guiding principle that steers all cybersecurity endeavors, this 'why' permeates Matt's advocacy for simple yet effective security strategies. Emphasizing the three pillars of cyber risk – IT and security management, cyber insurance, and risk management – they dissect how each element buttresses a business's defense against cyber threats. Detailed discussions around the necessity of manual, professional penetration testing versus automated vulnerability scanning are elucidated, conveying the gravity of personalized security measures. Key Takeaways: Cybersecurity should be underpinned by a passion for protecting businesses from financial losses due to cyber attacks. Simplifying cybersecurity for business owners is essential; focus on practical measures like Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) and password management. A comprehensive approach to cyber risk involves 24/7 IT and security management, cyber insurance, and risk management through regular audits and third-party tests. Penetration testing, as distinguished from vulnerability scanning, must be a manual effort to emulate the behaviors of real-world attackers. MSP businesses can expand their services and value to clients by becoming the 'governor' of cybersecurity, orchestrating the right tools, processes, and partnerships. No views Apr 27, 2024 Show Website: https://mspbusinessschool.com/ Guest Matthew Quammen, President | Optimize CyberLinkedin page: / matthewquammen Company: website: https://optimizecyber.com/ Hosts Brian Doyle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandoylevciotoolbox/

Apr 23, 2024 • 27min
EP 187 Create MRR with vCISO services

Feb 27, 2024 • 31min
EP 186 The Real Difference between Vulnerability Scans and Pen Tests
Cybersecurity expert Frank Raimondi discusses the differences between penetration testing and vulnerability scanning, emphasizing their roles in security validation for MSPs. He elaborates on the mechanics of vulnerability assessments, management, and the importance of proactive measures in fortifying network security. The significance of these tests for certifications, compliance audits, and cyber insurance applications is also highlighted.

Feb 6, 2024 • 36min
EP 185 Managing Gen Z, the new playbook with Alexander Abney-King

Jan 23, 2024 • 22min
EP 184 New Prospecting with Professor Jake
About the Guest: In this episode, we are joined by Jake Carroll, renowned for his expertise in sales strategy and storytelling. Jake brings to the table a wealth of experience in sales management and leadership, with a specific talent for making connections through storytelling. His aptitude for understanding customer needs and offering relevant solutions has cemented his reputation in the industry. Jake endorses practical frameworks and strategies that enable salespeople to resonate with prospects and effectively communicate value. Episode Summary: In the latest installment of MSP Business School, hosts Brian Doyle, Tim McNeil, and Rob Rogers engage in a captivating conversation with Jake Carroll, exploring the intricate art of storytelling in sales. The episode delves into the challenges faced by salespeople in today's market and offers a fresh perspective on connecting with prospects. Beginning with a candid discussion about the ongoing struggles with today's viruses impacting both personal health and business operations, the episode quickly pivots to its core: equipping sales individuals with a storytelling framework that enhances their ability to engage clients. Carroll outlines a simple yet powerful storytelling structure designed to captivate potential customers by addressing their needs and offering tangible solutions. Furthermore, the dialogue touches on the effectiveness of concise communication, especially within email outreach and social selling strategies. Key Takeaways: Sales storytelling requires a structured approach to be effective; the "Who, What's Their Want, But, and So" framework can guide sales representatives in crafting their narratives. Familiarity with the customer's industry and challenges is key to resonating and connecting with prospects. Integrating social selling with traditional approaches can increase familiarity and name recognition among your target market. Modern sales communication, especially emails, should be brief and packed with value to capture the reader's attention within seconds. Tools like Lavender and AI platforms, such as ChatGPT, can enhance and streamline the email composition process for sales outreach. Show Website: https://mspbusinessschool.com/ Guest: Jake Carroll LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jake-carroll-3855977/ Company: https://osrmanage.com Hosts Brian Doyle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandoylemetathinq/ Robb Rogers: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robb-rogers-07415251/ Tim McNeil: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timmcneil3/ Sponsors vCIOToolbox: https://vciotoolbox.com OSR Manage: https://osrmanage.com

Jan 16, 2024 • 26min
Death to the Ticket
Mark Alayev, CEO at Thread, discusses challenges of traditional ticketing systems and future of AI in MSP industry. He shares journey in the MSP world, co-founding Thread. Thread's platform simplifies ticketing, improves technician and customer experiences. AI automates tasks, empowers technicians for complex problem-solving. Vision for full service automation and digital-first communication in MSP industry.

Jan 9, 2024 • 25min
Jeff Farris, Driving Business Growth with MSPs: Leveraging Analytics and AI for Success
Show Website: https://mspbusinessschool.com/ Guest Name: Jeff Farris LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jfarris Company: https://cloudradial.com Hosts Brian Doyle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandoylemetathinq/ Robb Rogers: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robb-rogers-07415251/ Tim McNeil: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timmcneil3/ About The Guest(s): Jeff Ferriss is the founder of CloudRadial, a platform that helps MSPs manage their clients at scale and improve client relationships. With over 40 years of experience in the MSP industry, Jeff has witnessed the evolution of the industry and understands the challenges and opportunities that come with it. Summary: Jeff Ferriss discusses the changing landscape of the MSP industry and the need for MSPs to adapt and evolve. He emphasizes the importance of building strong client relationships and delivering outcomes that go beyond technical support. Jeff also introduces CloudRadial, a platform that helps MSPs manage their clients and improve collaboration through a client portal. He highlights the role of AI and analytics in the future of the industry and the need for MSPs to stay ahead of their clients' needs. Key Takeaways: The MSP industry is constantly evolving, and MSPs need to adapt to new technologies and client expectations. Building strong client relationships and delivering outcomes are essential for the success of MSPs. CloudRadial provides a client portal that allows MSPs to improve collaboration and transparency with their clients. AI and analytics will play a significant role in the future of the MSP industry, and MSPs need to stay ahead of their clients' needs.

Jan 2, 2024 • 24min
Jennifer Bleam, The close is the natural culmination of a really good conversation
About The Guest(s): Jen Bleam is the founder of MSP Sales Revolution and the author of "Simplified Security Sales for MSPs." With a deep background in marketing and sales, Jen helps MSPs develop effective sales systems and marketing frameworks to accelerate their growth. Jennifer Bleam's LinkedIn Summary: Jen Bleam, founder of MSP Sales Revolution, shares her journey into the world of MSP and how she helps MSPs overcome their sales and marketing challenges. She emphasizes the importance of troubleshooting skills in sales and highlights the need for a sales system and marketing framework to achieve growth. Jen also discusses the upcoming MSP Transformation Machine event, where MSP leaders can learn how to reach the $5 million mark in their businesses. Key Takeaways: Troubleshooting skills can be applied to sales and marketing to identify and solve challenges. A sales system and marketing framework are essential for MSPs to achieve growth. The close of a sales call should be a natural culmination of a good conversation. The MSP Transformation Machine event helps MSP leaders reach the $5 million mark in their businesses.

Dec 19, 2023 • 42min
Building and Ecosystems with the ConnectWise PitchIT and Invent Programs
About The Guest(s): Andrea Barrow: Andrea is a senior ecosystem marketing manager at ConnectWise. She has been working in the MSP space since 2010 and is responsible for managing the Invent program. Louie Cocchiola: Louie is a senior ecosystem marketing manager at ConnectWise. He has been working in the MSP space since 2010 and is responsible for raising awareness of the ConnectWise ecosystem. Sean Lardo: Sean is an economy evangelist at ConnectWise. He has been working with MSPs and vendors in the industry for many years and is responsible for managing the Pitch It program. Summary: In this episode of MSP Business School, Brian Doyle, Tim McNeil, and Rob Rogers are joined by Andrea Barrow, Louie Cocchia, and Sean Lardo from ConnectWise. They discuss the Pitch It program and the Invent program, both of which aim to support and promote innovative vendors in the MSP space. The Pitch It program is a shark tank-like competition that helps vendors gain exposure and funding, while the Invent program focuses on technical integration and marketing visibility. The guests share their experiences and the benefits of participating in these programs. Key Takeaways: The Pitch It program is a competition that helps innovative vendors gain exposure and funding in the MSP space. The Invent program focuses on technical integration and marketing visibility for vendors in the ConnectWise ecosystem. Certification and security reviews are important aspects of the Invent program to ensure the quality and security of integrations. The ConnectWise marketplace is a platform where MSPs can discover and browse integrations that meet their business needs. Certified integrations have a higher page view advantage in the marketplace, making them more attractive to MSPs. Quotes: "The Pitch It program is a shark tank-like competition to find the best innovators in the MSP space." - Sean Lardo "The Invent program focuses on technical integration and marketing visibility for vendors in the ConnectWise ecosystem." - Louie Cocchiola

Dec 12, 2023 • 25min
4 Steps you can to crush the close of 2023
About The Guest(s): Brian Doyle: Former MSP and co-host of MSP Business School. Tim McNeil: Co-host of MSP Business School. Summary: Brian Doyle and Tim McNeil discuss strategies for MSPs to maximize sales during the final two weeks of the year. They emphasize the importance of capitalizing on the budget spending season and offer tips for closing deals and engaging with key clients. They also recommend using this time to plan for the upcoming year, including analyzing customer needs and identifying opportunities for growth. Additionally, they discuss the current market conditions and the need for creativity in sales approaches. Key Takeaways: The final two weeks of the year are a prime time for MSPs to close deals and secure project commitments from clients who need to spend their budgets before year-end. Engaging with key clients during the holiday season by taking them to lunch or giving small gifts can help build relationships and set the stage for future sales. Conducting a business canvas analysis of clients can reveal opportunities for providing additional value and optimizing their operations. Sales cycles may be longer during this time due to market uncertainties, but once clients commit, they are highly engaged and ready to move forward. MSPs should be creative in their sales approaches, offering flexible payment options or tiered pricing to accommodate clients' needs without compromising MRR. Quotes: "This is the time to go get that low hanging fruit. Close up those hardware deals." - Brian Doyle "Get out in front of those key clients or the ones that are ready to be risen up and make sure you're making some personal connections." - Brian Doyle "Don't touch your MRR. And even if you do touch your MRR, don't reduce it, just spread it differently." - Tim McNeil https://mspbusinessschool.com SponsorsvCIOToolbox OSR Manage Sales MaturIT