
Good Bad Billionaire
How did the planet's richest people make their billions? From iconic celebrities and secretive CEOs to sporting legends and titans of technology, Simon Jack and Zing Tsjeng find out, and then decide whether they think they’re good, bad, or just another billionaire. Ever wondered how Taylor Swift went from country singer to money-spinner? How Amazon boss Jeff Bezos came to launch one of the biggest corporations of the internet age? And how six-time NBA champion Michael Jordan made his fortune with Nike? Good Bad Billionaire is here to analyse the minds, motives and money of some of the world's wealthiest individuals. Simon and Zing explore the lives of the super-rich and famous, tracking their wealth, philanthropy, business ethics and success. In Season three, find out how Selena Gomez went from a child Disney star to a mega-magnate of makeup and how Martha Stewart, the “original lifestyle influencer” became one of the most successful women in business. We explore the life of British inventor James Dyson, and learn about some of the big names behind Minecraft, Marvel, WWE and the ultimate reality TV show – Big Brother. Join us on a global journey, discovering all we can about some of the richest people on the planet. In the United States, there are leaders who made their money in Silicon Valley, on Wall Street and in high street fashion. Trawl through the archives to hear about billionaires in Russia, China, New Zealand, India, Nigeria and the UK. Exploring the lives of Oprah Winfrey, Bill Gates, Rupert Murdoch, El Chapo, Narayana Murthy and Kim Kardashian, this podcast paints a vivid picture of business, entrepreneurship, capitalism and how our world really works. Discover how the likes of Jerry Seinfeld, Peter Jackson, Doris Fisher and George Soros came to join the billionaires' club. Learn how Tiger Woods went from a child golfing prodigy to the world’s highest paid athlete, how a communist mime artist became the boss of fashion house Prada and how Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich came to buy an English football club. Find out how Mukesh Ambani became Asia’s richest person, and how Patrice Motsepe became the first black billionaire in a post-apartheid South Africa. Plus, we examine some of the biggest names behind the technology shaping our world – the founders of TikTok, Google, ChatGPT, Alibaba and Bumble. But it's not just how these billionaires made their money; it's what they did with it next. Ultimately, Simon and Zing consider whether they think these people are a force for good, bad, or somewhere in between. Join Simon Jack, the business editor for BBC News, and journalist and author Zing Tsjeng as this podcast unravels tales of fortune, power, economics, ambition and moral responsibility, ultimately inviting you to make up your own mind: are they good, bad, or just another billionaire? We’d love to hear your feedback. Email goodbadbillionaire@bbc.com or drop us a text or WhatsApp to +1 (917) 686-1176. To find out more about the show and read our privacy notice, visit www.bbcworldservice.com/goodbadbillionaire
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Apr 21, 2025 • 47min
Orlando Bravo: Tech dealmaker
Orlando Bravo's journey from aspiring tennis pro to the first Puerto Rican billionaire is a fascinating tale of pivoting to finance. A parenting revelation about diapers reshaped his business approach, emphasizing trust and growth. The podcast delves into the profitability of software firms, revealing investment secrets during the SaaS boom. Bravo's philanthropy in Puerto Rico post-Hurricane Maria contrasts with scandals in cyber security and cryptocurrency. His story raises questions about wealth's duality and the ethical complexities of success.

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Apr 14, 2025 • 49min
Vince McMahon: Wrestling's ringmaster
Discover the fascinating journey of Vince McMahon, who transformed wrestling into a $6.8 billion spectacle. From his rise as Mr. McMahon to the creation of WrestleMania, his strategies revolutionized the industry. Dive into the dramatic rivalry with Ted Turner and the implications of wrestling’s dark era, addressing issues like undercompensation and allegations of abuse. The duality of wrestling personas highlights both the theatricality and ethical dilemmas faced by its stars. It’s a deep dive into the morally complex world of sports entertainment.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 46min
Markus Persson: Minecraft maker
Dive into the fascinating journey of Markus Persson, the mastermind behind Minecraft. From a high school dropout obsessed with Lego, he created a 3D world where players unleash creativity. Discover how an indie game transformed into a global phenomenon, leading to a billion-dollar sale to Microsoft. Explore the impact of Minecraft on communication, especially among autistic children, and the complexities of wealth and creativity in Persson's life. It's a compelling story of triumph, challenges, and the legacy of a gaming icon.

Mar 31, 2025 • 41min
John de Mol: Big Brother’s daddy
Explore how John de Mol revolutionized reality TV, birthing iconic shows like Big Brother and The Voice. From his early days in pirate radio to founding the powerhouse Endemol, his journey is filled with innovation and controversy. The podcast dives into the societal impacts of reality television, discussing everything from mental health issues for contestants to the ethics of fame. Delve into the legacy of a billionaire who reshaped entertainment and contemplate the moral responsibilities that come with such immense wealth.

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Mar 24, 2025 • 46min
Sir James Dyson: Sucking up the cash
Discover how a blocked vacuum cleaner sparked a billion-dollar idea for Sir James Dyson. Delve into his challenging childhood and early career setbacks, which fueled his obsession with innovation. Learn about the revolutionary bagless vacuum and his expansion into other household products. The podcast also addresses the controversies around his business decisions and philanthropic efforts, ultimately debating whether Dyson deserves the title of a 'good billionaire.'

Mar 17, 2025 • 51min
Martha Stewart: The original lifestyle influencer
Martha Stewart revolutionised home entertaining with her recipes, home decor and TV shows, becoming one of the world's most successful women in business. Known as the ultimate homemaker and the "original lifestyle influencer", she's also the USA’s first ever self-made female billionaire. But while the entrepreneur made her fortune as a domestic goddess, Martha Stewart is no trad wife. It took more than crafts and cookbooks to make her fortune. And then it all came crashing down. BBC business editor Simon Jack and journalist Zing Tsjeng are back with a new season of Good Bad Billionaire. In this episode, they're exploring the life of Martha Stewart, charting the lifestyle mogul’s career, from her influence over millions of American homes, to her time in prison, and her ultimate comeback – as a star of social media and the subject of a Netflix documentary, all with Snoop Dogg at her side. Then they decide if they think she’s good, bad, or just another billionaire.Good Bad Billionaire is the podcast exploring the lives of the super-rich and famous, tracking their wealth, philanthropy, business ethics and success. There are leaders who made their money in Silicon Valley, on Wall Street and in high street fashion. From iconic celebrities and CEOs to titans of technology, the podcast unravels tales of fortune, power, economics, ambition and moral responsibility before inviting you to make up your own mind: are they good, bad or just another billionaire?

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Feb 17, 2025 • 38min
Encore - Chuck Feeney: All duty
Discover the fascinating journey of Chuck Feeney, a billionaire who gave away $8 billion while living modestly. Explore his innovative rise in the duty-free shopping world during the jet age, driven by the post-war tourism boom. Delve into his impactful philanthropy that reshaped higher education in Ireland and numerous global humanitarian efforts. Learn about his commitment to anonymity and how his unique philosophy challenges traditional ideas of wealth and responsibility, making him a true 'silent philanthropist'.

Feb 3, 2025 • 53min
Encore - Taylor Swift: Swiftonomics
Taylor Swift continues to dominate headlines as her Eras tour breaks records and reshapes the economy, earning her a place among billionaires. The financial phenomenon of 'Swiftonomics' highlights her staggering potential earnings from concerts. Beyond the charts, the discussion dives into her journey from a young songwriter to a music titan, the controversies she faced, and her battle for music ownership. Listeners get a glimpse into her philanthropic efforts, political engagement, and the enduring legacy she builds through her art.

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Dec 2, 2024 • 47min
Peter Thiel: Paypal mafioso
Discover the contradictory world of Peter Thiel, a billionaire with a libertarian mindset who's suspicious of Silicon Valley's 'wokeness.' From ousting Elon Musk at PayPal to his wild ambition for cryogenic freezing, he embodies both genius and chaos. Explore his radical life journey, early tech investments, and the emergence of e-commerce that changed money transfers forever. Delve into his polarizing political involvement, including support for Donald Trump, and the lasting impact of his controversial beliefs on technology and society.

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Nov 25, 2024 • 42min
Doris Fisher: Don’t mind The Gap
Explore the rise of Doris Fisher, co-founder of The Gap, as she reshaped fashion with iconic basics like the pocket t-shirt. From the Summer of Love to dominating the '90s, hear about the challenges and triumphs of a brand that bridged generations. Discover the rollercoaster of their IPO journey, marked by controversies and strategic shifts. Delve into the complexities of wealth, philanthropy, and labor practices in fashion, while reflecting on Doris's enduring legacy and the broader cultural impact of her entrepreneurial spirit.
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