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For episode 200 (!) of The Fire These Times, Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor join Dana & Elia to talk about their piece "the rise of end times fascism." Naomi Klein is the author of Doppelganger, On Fire, How to Change Everything, the Shock Doctrine & No Logo, among others. Astra Taylor is the co-founder of the Debt Collector and is the author of Democracy May Not Exist, but We'll Miss It When It's Gone, The People's Platform: Taking Back Power and Culture in the Digital Age and The Age of Insecurity: Coming Together as Things Fall Apart, among others.The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠, ⁠Politically Depressed⁠, ⁠Obscuristan⁠, and ⁠Antidote Zine⁠.Support FTP on Patreon!Referenced:Sitt Marie Rose by Etel AdnanCool People Who Did Cool Stuff podcast (on all podcast apps)Resistance is Fertile: The Star Trek Anarchist Podcast (on all podcast apps)The Book of Records For more:Naomi Klein has a website, a newsletter, and is on Instagram and BlueskyAstra Taylor has a website and is on BlueskyElia Ayoub is on ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠, ⁠Mastodon⁠, ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ and blogs at ⁠Hauntologies.net⁠ Dana El Kurd is on BlueskyThe Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ IG⁠ and⁠ YouTube⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by⁠ Antidote Zine⁠ and will be published on⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠.Credits:Elia Ayoub (host, producer, sound editor, episode design), Dana El Kurd (host), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

“Fascism isn’t just about power—it’s about controlling the stories we tell. It warps narratives to justify oppression, trapping us in cycles of dominance and despair. But stories can also resist, break those cycles, and open the door to something new.“ This is how YouTuber and hardcore Trekkie Jessie Gender starts her video essay “The Stories Fascism Fears Most“ which we highly recommend. A few weeks ago, Elia Ayoub sat down with Jessie to talk about it. They got into their love of Star Trek - because of course they did - as well as other franchises like The Matrix. This is a special crossover episode between The Fire These Times and Resistance is Fertile, a Star Trek Anarchist podcast by Elia and carla joy bergman. Show NotesSupport the making of RIF on PatreonRIF BlueSky: @thestartrekpod.bsky.social‬RIF IGElia’s workcarla’s workJessie Gender’s YouTube channelMusic by NinePulseTech by Chris BergmanRIF is co-produced by carla and EliaThe Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ IG⁠ and⁠ YouTube⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠Transcriptions: Transcriptions are usually done by⁠ Antidote Zine⁠ and published on⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠. However, this time it's the RIF gang that did the transcripts. Thanks for listening! 

For episode 198, Elia Ayoub is joined by Venezuelan researcher - and old friend - Laura Vidal to talk about, and around, Venezuela. We got into why Venezuelans flee the Maduro regime, how Venezuela(ns) is often covered, and the broader discourse battles that may or may not include people who still think Maduro is a passionate defenders of the Palestinians (pause for laughter).Laura was actually one of the first guests of TFTT back in the ancient year of 2020 when Elia was still learning how to use the Audacity sound editing software. The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠, ⁠Politically Depressed⁠, ⁠Obscuristan⁠, and ⁠Antidote Zine⁠.To get early access to our episodes as well as other perks (monthly hangout, movie club, exclusive content and so on) you can join our patreon on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery For more:Elia Ayoub is on ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠, ⁠Mastodon⁠, ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ and blogs at ⁠Hauntologies.net⁠ Laura Vidal is on BlueskyThe Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ IG⁠ and⁠ YouTube⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by⁠ Antidote Zine⁠ and will be published on⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠.Credits:Elia Ayoub (host, producer, sound editor, episode design), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

It's been 20 years since the Assad regime assassinated Samir Kassir, the Lebanese-Syrian-Palestinian historian, journalist and writer in Beirut on June 2nd 2005. Joining Elia Ayoub and Leila Al-Shami today is Lebanese-French political researcher and academic Ziad Majed, a friend and comrade of Kassir, to talk about his legacy in the two decades that have passed given how much has changed since for Lebanon, Palestine and of course Syria.This is a special cross-over episode between The Fire These Times (TFTT) and Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution (STIR). We are both part of the From The Periphery Media Collective. To support all of our projects please head out to⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery⁠⁠Resources:⁠Dans la tête de Bachar al-Assad⁠ by Ziad Majed, Farouk Mardam-Bey and Subhi Hadidi⁠Syrian melancholy in Lebanon’s revolution⁠ by Elia Ayoub and Dara Foi’Elle⁠The 2020 TFTT episode (26) with Ziad Majed⁠Samir Kassir:⁠Beirut⁠ (History)⁠Being Arab/The Arab Malaise⁠⁠Archives of Samir Kassir in the Revue d'études palestiniennes⁠ (French)Credits and More:Leila Al Shami (Host). More:⁠⁠ ⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ ⁠Mastodon⁠⁠⁠ and her⁠⁠ ⁠Blog⁠⁠⁠Elia Ayoub (Host, Producer). More:⁠⁠ ⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ ⁠Mastodon⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ ⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ and his⁠⁠ ⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠STIR is also on⁠⁠ ⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠TFTT is on⁠ Bluesky⁠,⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠ and has a⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠website⁠From The Periphery is on⁠⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Bluesky⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠, and has a⁠⁠ website⁠⁠⁠Hisham Rifai (Illustration)Omar Offendum and Sami Matar (Music)

Palestinian journalist Maram Humaid joins us from Gaza to talk about the many layers of Israel’s genocide, the everyday of those trying to survive it. This is part 2 of the episode with Elia Ayoub and israa'. ⁠It is already available in full on Patreon for free.⁠More:⁠Maram’s articles on Al Jazeera⁠⁠Gaza Mutual Aid⁠⁠This American Life episode with Maram’s daughter Banias “The Narrator, Episode 849” December 13, 2024⁠⁠Elia’s piece on Hauntologies: Why I Cannot Mourn Gaza⁠The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: ⁠Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution⁠, ⁠From The Periphery Podcast⁠,⁠ The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Politically Depressed⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Obscuristan⁠⁠, and⁠ ⁠Antidote Zine⁠⁠.For more:Elia Ayoub is on⁠ ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Mastodon⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ and blogs at⁠ ⁠Hauntologies.net⁠⁠ israa' is on ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠The Fire These Times is on⁠ Bluesky⁠,⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠ and has a⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠From The Periphery is on⁠⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Bluesky⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠, and has a⁠⁠ website⁠⁠⁠Credits:Elia Ayoub (host, producer, episode design), israa' (host), Ayman Makarem (producer, sound editor),⁠ ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music),⁠ ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design),⁠ ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and⁠ ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics).

Palestinian journalist Maram Humaid joins us from Gaza to talk about the many layers of Israel’s genocide, the everyday of those trying to survive it. This is part 1 of the episode with Elia Ayoub and israa'. It is already available in full on Patreon for free.More:Maram’s articles on Al JazeeraGaza Mutual AidThis American Life episode with Maram’s daughter Banias “The Narrator, Episode 849” December 13, 2024Elia’s piece on Hauntologies: Why I Cannot Mourn GazaThe Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠, ⁠Politically Depressed⁠, ⁠Obscuristan⁠, and ⁠Antidote Zine⁠.For more:Elia Ayoub is on ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠, ⁠Mastodon⁠, ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ and blogs at ⁠Hauntologies.net⁠ israa' is on ⁠Bluesky⁠The Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ Instagram⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠Credits:Elia Ayoub (host, producer, episode design), israa' (host), Ayman Makarem (producer, sound editor), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics).

Amos Goldberg, a renowned Professor of Holocaust History at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, dives deep into the intersections of Holocaust studies and contemporary issues in Gaza. He discusses the controversial open letter from Holocaust scholars linking the Holocaust to the events in Gaza, urging for a reevaluation of historical narratives. The conversation also touches on the moral implications of Israeli actions, advocating for an egalitarian binational future, and highlights the necessity of amplifying marginalized voices in discussions of trauma and genocide.

Amos Goldberg, a prominent Holocaust historian from The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, delves into the fraught discussions surrounding intent in the context of genocide, particularly relating to Gaza. He explores how genocides often arise from claims of self-defense and discusses the risks of oversimplifying historical narratives. The conversation highlights the complexities of labeling contemporary atrocities and the consequences of these classifications. Goldberg's insights challenge listeners to engage deeply with sensitive subjects that echo through history.

This is part 2 of the episode. Part 1 was released a few days ago, and you can also listen to the full version for free on ⁠our Patreon⁠.Presented by guest hosts Michelle and Daniel, Cracks in the Walls: Global Perspectives on Migration brings together eight individuals active in migration struggles around the world (Mexico, Haiti, U.S., and Europe) for a discussion on root causes of migration, current and past repression, and, most importantly, impactful approaches to solidarity and resistance. Participants are:Michelle (she/her) - Filmmaker/writer, free clinic herbalist/nutritionist, teacher, and activist based in California.⁠ www.underexposedfilms.com⁠Daniel (any pronouns) - A member of the solidarity movement at the Polish-Belarussian border.​​⁠https://nobordersteam.noblogs.org/⁠ Fundraising:⁠ https://zrzutka.pl/rab8e2⁠Vivianne (she/her) - Activist and Social Work student. Community worker within the Haitian community in México. Haitian Bridge Alliance:⁠ https://haitianbridgealliance.org⁠Diana (she/her) - Mexican Psychologist and activist. Working at Refugee Health Alliance:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/alianza_para_la_salud⁠Edin/Andrea (they/them): Independent artist and rebel. Collaborator with Enclave Rabia Caracol and its various projects. Enclave Caracol:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/enclavecaracol⁠Also:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/tijuanacomidanobombas⁠Marie (she/her) - Activist from Germany within the noborder-movement and civil SAR (Search and Rescue). Links:⁠ https://resqship.org/⁠ +⁠ https://alarmphone.org/⁠ +⁠ https://captainsupport.net⁠Anne (she/her) - Activist of the Seebrücke and the #FreeHomayoun campaign, based in Switzerland. ⁠https://www.freehomayoun.org⁠Juan Carlos (he/him) - (Translating for Vivianne.) Director of "Tijuana: Ciudad de Migrantes".⁠ https://youtu.be/kGjR8_ZVfnA?si=Uk3Aocc56FgJSmxQ⁠Some ways to act in solidarity with migrants in the U.S.(from an outside source):⁠ https://crimethinc.com/2025/02/11/eight-things-you-can-do-to-stop-ice⁠The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem:⁠ From The Periphery Podcast⁠,⁠ The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Politically Depressed⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Obscuristan⁠⁠, and⁠ ⁠Antidote Zine⁠⁠.To support our work and get access to all kinds of perks, please join our Patreon on⁠ Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery⁠ For more:Michelle is on⁠ Instagram⁠The Fire These Times is on⁠ Bluesky⁠,⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠ and has a⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠From The Periphery is on⁠⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Bluesky⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠, and has a⁠⁠ website⁠⁠⁠Credits:Michelle (host, producer, sound editor), Daniel (host, co-producer, co-editor), Elia Ayoub (episode design),⁠ ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music),⁠ ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design),⁠ ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and⁠ ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). Episode photo taken by Michelle.

This is part 1 of the episode. Part 2 will be released in a few days, but you can listen to the full version for free on our Patreon.Presented by guest hosts Michelle and Daniel, Cracks in the Walls: Global Perspectives on Migration brings together eight individuals active in migration struggles around the world (Mexico, Haiti, U.S., and Europe) for a discussion on root causes of migration, current and past repression, and, most importantly, impactful approaches to solidarity and resistance. Participants are:Michelle (she/her) - Filmmaker/writer, free clinic herbalist/nutritionist, teacher, and activist based in California. www.underexposedfilms.comDaniel (any pronouns) - A member of the solidarity movement at the Polish-Belarussian border.​​https://nobordersteam.noblogs.org/ Fundraising: https://zrzutka.pl/rab8e2Vivianne (she/her) - Activist and Social Work student. Community worker within the Haitian community in México. Haitian Bridge Alliance: https://haitianbridgealliance.orgDiana (she/her) - Mexican Psychologist and activist. Working at Refugee Health Alliance: https://www.instagram.com/alianza_para_la_saludEdin/Andrea (they/them): Independent artist and rebel. Collaborator with Enclave Rabia Caracol and its various projects. Enclave Caracol: https://www.instagram.com/enclavecaracolAlso: https://www.instagram.com/tijuanacomidanobombasMarie (she/her) - Activist from Germany within the noborder-movement and civil SAR (Search and Rescue). Links: https://resqship.org/ + https://alarmphone.org/ + https://captainsupport.netAnne (she/her) - Activist of the Seebrücke and the #FreeHomayoun campaign, based in Switzerland. https://www.freehomayoun.orgJuan Carlos (he/him) - (Translating for Vivianne.) Director of "Tijuana: Ciudad de Migrantes". https://youtu.be/kGjR8_ZVfnA?si=Uk3Aocc56FgJSmxQSome ways to act in solidarity with migrants in the U.S.(from an outside source): https://crimethinc.com/2025/02/11/eight-things-you-can-do-to-stop-iceThe Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠, ⁠Politically Depressed⁠, ⁠Obscuristan⁠, and ⁠Antidote Zine⁠.To support our work and get access to all kinds of perks, please join our Patreon on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery For more:Michelle is on InstagramThe Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ Instagram⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠Credits:Michelle (host, producer, sound editor), Daniel (host, co-producer, co-editor), Elia Ayoub (episode design), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). Episode photo taken by Michelle.