The Fire These Times 207/ Malcolm X and Our Modern Struggle w/ The Dugout and Mohamed Abdou
In this collaboration episode, host israa’ is joined with Jordan and Prince from The Dugout Podcast and Dr. Mohamed Abdou. We got together to talk about Malcolm X, his evolution over time, his commitment to the below, and the role and impact of Islam on his journey towards collective liberation. Along the way, we talk about Malcolm’s impact on our lives and our politics and share insights on how we think Malcolm would be showing up today.
00:00 Introduction and Host Introductions
01:45 Personal Connections to Malcolm X
04:52 Malcolm X's Influence and Evolution
08:48 Reflections on Malcolm X's Teachings
11:31 Malcolm X's Legacy and Modern Relevance
19:39 Organizational Structures and Revolutionary Responsibility
29:19 Global Impact and Pan-Africanism
46:17 Evolving Governance and Lessons from the Zapatistas
48:08 Exploring Malcolm X's Intersectional Analysis
48:47 Malcolm X and James Baldwin: A Shared Journey
50:45 Decolonization and Internationalism
52:30 Contextualizing Malcolm X's Strategies
54:34 Malcolm X's Methodology and Ethics
58:38 Malcolm X's Legacy and Modern Implications
01:18:09 The Role of Spirituality and Self-Critique
01:29:20 Final Reflections on Malcolm X's Influence
Mohamed :
Dr. Mohamed Abdou is a Muslim anarchist scholar and organizer. He's a student of the muqawama (the resistance) and author of Islam and Anarchism: Relationships and Resonances (Pluto Press, 2022). His work centers on Palestinian, Indigenous, Black, and people of colour liberation, and draws on the Indigenous Zapatista movement in Chiapas, Mexico, as well as his participation in the Egyptian uprisings of 2011.
substack: https://drmohamedabdou.substack.com/
website: mabdou.net.
Twitter: @minuetinGmajor
Instagram: @slightlydrifting
israa’ :
israa’ (they/them) is an activist scholar in a committed relationship with collective liberation. They are part of From the Periphery Media collective where they are hosts of The Mutual Aid Podcast, The Fire of these Times, and From the Periphery Podcast. They’re working towards building a world where all worlds fit through their activism and scholarship.
Dugout
The Dugout is a Black anarchist podcast rooted in political education, decolonial thought/praxis, and deep community study. We tell stories, break down systems, and honor the voices of those building liberation from below. From interviews with Black Panthers and movement elders to media critiques and abolitionist strategy, each episode is a living contribution to Black radical traditions.
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