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80,000 Hours Podcast

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Sep 4, 2024 • 2h 49min

#200 – Ezra Karger on what superforecasters and experts think about existential risks

Ezra Karger, research director at the Forecasting Research Institute, dives into how superforecasters approach existential risks like AI and nuclear war. He explains the Existential Risk Persuasion Tournament and the surprising differences in risk estimates between superforecasters and traditional experts. While experts predict a 6% chance of human extinction, superforecasters see it as just 1%. Karger pushes for clearer communication in debating these complex risks, emphasizing the need for reference probabilities to navigate future policies effectively.
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Aug 29, 2024 • 1h 13min

#199 – Nathan Calvin on California’s AI bill SB 1047 and its potential to shape US AI policy

Nathan Calvin, senior policy counsel at the Center for AI Safety Action Fund, dives into California's AI bill SB 1047 and its implications for national AI policy. He discusses the bill's focus on legal liabilities for AI developers and the risks it addresses around public safety and national security. Calvin highlights the heated debate between supporters and opponents, exploring concerns about potential burdens on startups versus the need for regulation. He emphasizes the importance of clear communication in AI legislation and the proactive steps needed to navigate an evolving landscape.
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Aug 26, 2024 • 3h 48min

#198 – Meghan Barrett on challenging our assumptions about insects

In this engaging discussion, Meghan Barrett, an insect neurobiologist and founding director of the Insect Welfare Research Society, delves into the misunderstood world of insects. She challenges common misconceptions about insect intelligence and emotional capacity, highlighting their surprising complexity. Barrett explores the potential for insect suffering, discussing their surprising behaviors and cognitive abilities. The conversation also touches on the ethical dimensions of insect farming and the need for improved welfare practices in agriculture. It's a thought-provoking dive into the often-overlooked lives of these fascinating creatures.
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Aug 22, 2024 • 2h 29min

#197 – Nick Joseph on whether Anthropic's AI safety policy is up to the task

Nick Joseph, co-founder of Anthropic and head of training, dives into the urgent topic of AI safety policies at major firms. He reveals how Anthropic’s Responsible Scaling Policy aims to mitigate risks as AI capabilities grow. The discussion highlights the importance of safeguarding AI models to prevent misuse, especially in critical areas like bioweapons. Joseph emphasizes the need for rigorous safety evaluations and independent audits to ensure accountability while navigating the complex landscape of AI ethics and development.
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Aug 15, 2024 • 2h 2min

#196 – Jonathan Birch on the edge cases of sentience and why they matter

In this discussion, Dr. Jonathan Birch, a philosophy professor at the London School of Economics, explores the intricacies of sentience and its ethical ramifications. He challenges the misconceptions surrounding consciousness in various entities—from humans in vegetative states to AI. Birch shares cautionary tales about overconfidence in scientific beliefs that have led to suffering. They also delve into the ethical implications of fetal sentience, the role of neural organoids in research, and the responsibilities of policymakers in managing potential sentient beings.
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Aug 1, 2024 • 2h 8min

#195 – Sella Nevo on who's trying to steal frontier AI models, and what they could do with them

Sella Nevo, director of the Meselson Center at RAND, dives into the security risks surrounding frontier AI models. He highlights real-world breaches and the motivations of adversaries, from hackers to rogue states, targeting AI model weights. Nevo discusses the inadequacy of current cybersecurity practices and proposes new measures to protect against sophisticated threats. He also touches on the role of machine learning in flood forecasting, showcasing its potential to save lives and enhance disaster response capabilities.
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Jul 26, 2024 • 3h 4min

#194 – Vitalik Buterin on defensive acceleration and how to regulate AI when you fear government

In this discussion, Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of Ethereum, delves into the complexities surrounding AI regulation amidst rising skepticism towards authority. He argues for a balance between optimism and caution in tech advancements and advocates for decentralized governance. Buterin also addresses the dual nature of technology as a tool for self-defense and government control. He shares insights on navigating social dynamics within AI debates, emphasizing the importance of diverse perspectives to combat misinformation and foster ethical practices in innovation.
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Jul 18, 2024 • 2h 24min

#193 – Sihao Huang on the risk that US–China AI competition leads to war

Expert Sihao Huang discusses the potential risks of US-China AI competition leading to misuse of AI systems. They cover the state of AI in China, semiconductor supply chain development, and the importance of US-China collaboration in AI governance.
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Jul 12, 2024 • 1h 54min

#192 – Annie Jacobsen on what would happen if North Korea launched a nuclear weapon at the US

Author and investigative journalist Annie Jacobsen discusses the chilling humanitarian impacts of a nuclear attack, the US president's rapid decision-making window in a crisis, and the catastrophic effects of nuclear detonations. She delves into the overlooked dangers of EMP attacks, the complexities of nuclear policy, and the importance of international cooperation to prevent nuclear catastrophes.
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Jul 5, 2024 • 2h 21min

#191 (Part 2) – Carl Shulman on government and society after AGI

Expert in AGI, Carl Shulman discusses the positive societal impacts of AI advisors, potential convergence on firm answers with AI interpretation advancements, and the pressure on officials to act on trustworthy advice. Exploring AI's role in governance, journalism, and pandemic decision-making, the podcast highlights the benefits and challenges of utilizing advanced AI technologies in improving societal domains and government operations.

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