Revenue Makers

A successful brand refresh is more than just a new look. It’s about aligning your messaging, visuals, and product to tell a cohesive story. But getting there requires careful planning, clear ownership, and a deep understanding of what’s changing.In this episode, Saima Rashid and Adam Kaiser share the inside story behind 6sense’s brand refresh. They’ll explore how aligning messaging with product architecture drove design decisions, the importance of maintaining core elements, and how to avoid pitfalls in the process.In this episode, you’ll learn:What teams often get wrong when updating their brandHow to measure impact across product, marketing, and sentimentWhy clarity in ownership and timing makes or breaks the process Jump into the conversation: (00:00) The time to refresh (02:32) Signs it’s time for a brand refresh (04:29) How AI and M&A shaped the story (06:36) Rebrand vs. refresh and why it matters (08:22) The new design system of grids and glows (13:26) Why messaging needs to lead the change (20:31) Key metrics to measure brand impact

Seth Godin, renowned author and marketing innovator, shares his profound insights on adapting business strategies in a tech-driven world. He emphasizes the importance of balancing strategic commitments with flexibility to seize new opportunities. The conversation highlights the essential role of empathy in marketing and leadership as well as the potential pitfalls of over-relying on AI. Seth discusses the need for personalized strategies that create long-term value while empowering teams to innovate and respond effectively to market dynamics.

How do you lead with strategy in a fast-changing world?In this episode, Seth Godin, author of This Is Strategy, joins Saima Rashid and Adam Kaiser for part 1 of a two-part conversation. Seth discusses his latest book, This is Strategy, and how it challenges traditional views of what strategy really is. He explains why strategy isn’t about planning or quick wins, but about understanding where you’re headed and who you want to become.He breaks down how companies like Starbucks and Microsoft have successfully navigated the market by sticking to clear, long-term strategies. Seth also touches on the importance of working within systems and how to shift from focusing on short-term results to embracing long-term thinking.In this episode, you’ll learn: 1. What makes strategy more than just a plan 2. How empathy impacts both strategy and leadership 3. Why long-term thinking is essential for successJump into the conversation: (00:00) Introducing Seth Godin (04:12) Misunderstanding of strategy concepts (06:36) Short-term tactics vs. long-term strategy (07:23) Successful company strategy examples (08:59) Empathy’s role in strategy, leadership (10:49) Changing systems and working within (14:21) Measuring numbers and long-term thinking (16:56) CMO’s role and market-driven marketing (19:53) Impact of marketing choices on growth (22:25) Negotiating strategic focus within the C-suite

What’s the secret to assembling the right team to power your ABM strategy?In this episode, Max Spanier, Founder of Sloane Staffing, discusses how to build a high-performing team for Account-Based Marketing (ABM). He explains why hiring the right people is just as critical as having the right technology, how to identify key roles like GTM engineers, and why soft skills matter just as much as technical expertise. Max shares his insights on trends in the B2B martech space and the importance of cross-functional alignment for ABM success. Max also breaks down the challenges of staffing in a rapidly changing industry and offers advice on how to successfully scale ABM teams to drive real business impact.In this episode, you’ll learn:The importance of building a team that can execute ABM effectivelyKey hires to consider when scaling your ABM strategyHow to blend hard and soft skills when staffing for ABM rolesJump into the conversation: (00:00) Introducing Max Spanier (01:20) How Trellix aligns tech investments with goals (04:46) The risks of shiny object syndrome in B2B (07:32) Why cross-functional alignment drives success (11:32) Why measurement is critical for marketing spend (15:46) A vendor’s role in supporting business outcomes (20:07) Key indicators for evaluating software impact (24:50) Unrealistic expectations in tech deployments

When does buying software drive real impact, and when is it just a costly mistake?In this episode, Maxwell Maurier, VP of Growth Marketing at Trellix, shares how to make technology investments that actually move the needle. He explains why strategy should come before software, how Trellix aligns purchases with business goals, and what marketers often overlook about attribution. He also breaks down the risks of chasing the latest tools without a clear plan and how to get finance and sales on board.Maxwell discusses the role of measurement, the importance of cross-functional buy-in, and why vendors should focus on business outcomes over vanity metrics. Plus, he shares lessons from leading high-stakes software decisions.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why marketing technology should solve business problems, not create themHow to align software purchases with long-term strategic goalsThe role of measurement and attribution in proving ROIJump into the conversation:(00:00) Introducing Maxwell Maurier(01:20) How Trellix aligns tech investments with goals(04:46) The risks of shiny object syndrome in B2B(07:32) Why cross-functional alignment drives success(11:32) Why measurement is critical for marketing spend(15:46) A vendor’s role in supporting business outcomes(20:07) Key indicators for evaluating software impact(24:50) Unrealistic expectations in tech deployments

AI-driven email outreach is more than just automation—it’s a game-changer for sales and marketing teams. But how do you deploy AI agents effectively while maintaining compliance, preserving inbox health, and ensuring human alignment?In this episode, Chris Dutton, VP of Marketing Operations at 6sense, breaks down how his team has scaled AI email agents over the past three years, long before AI became mainstream. He shares the key lessons learned, the crawl-walk-run approach to implementation, and how AI enhances rather than replaces BDRs.Chris unpacks the metrics that matter beyond vanity stats, the campaigns that work (and those that don’t), and the impact of AI on pipeline generation and team efficiency. From reducing BDR workload by 59% to achieving record-breaking pipeline months, this episode is packed with actionable insights on integrating AI into your outbound strategy.In this episode, you’ll learn:How 6sense successfully scaled AI email agents without compromising complianceWhy AI email agents complement BDR efforts instead of replacing themThe key metrics that matter when measuring AI-driven outreachBest practices for inbox warming, campaign selection, and maintaining email healthJump into the conversation:(00:00) Introducing Chris Dutton and the AI email revolution(02:16) The importance of AI agents in scaling outreach(04:48) How 6sense started with AI email agents—cautiously(07:24) Key metrics for success beyond open and click rates(10:29) The three most effective AI email agent campaigns(12:48) Common pitfalls and when not to use AI for outreach(15:42) How 6sense centralizes AI ownership and ensures compliance(18:20) The technical crawl-walk-run approach to AI email implementation(22:03) Surprising AI interactions: empathy, engagement, and success stories

When does a B2B influencer strategy drive real impact and when is it just a distraction?In this episode, Fredrik Borestrom, Director of International Agency Development, EMEA and LATAM at LinkedIn, shares insights on the rise of B2B influencers. He explains why expertise is more valuable than reach, how brands can tap into employee advocacy, and what LinkedIn’s latest research with Edelman reveals about effective influencer marketing in B2B.Fredrik explores the role of thought leaders, the growing influence of niche experts, and the balance between corporate messaging and personal brand credibility. He also offers a look at how brands can leverage trusted voices—both internally and externally—to strengthen buyer confidence.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why B2B influencer marketing is driven by expertise and credibility rather than follower countHow trust-driven interactions are shifting the way buyers make decisionsThe impact of employee advocacy and why it outperforms traditional brand messagingJump into the conversation:(00:00) Introducing Fredrik Borestrom(02:16) The balance between thought leadership and influencer marketing(05:48) Why trust-based engagement matters in B2B decision-making(08:39) How employee advocacy amplifies brand influence(12:48) The hidden buying group and its role in decision-making(17:19) LinkedIn’s thought leadership ads and their impact(20:33) Niche influence: Why expertise beats large followings(26:02) Long-term strategies for building brand credibility

ABM has always been about precision—knowing the right accounts, the right moments, and the right messages. But as technology evolves, so do the strategies that drive success. With AI, personalization at scale is becoming a reality, while brand-led demand generation is proving more critical than ever.In this episode, hosts Saima Rashid and Adam Kaiser break down what’s working in ABM today. Then they’ll explore how AI is reshaping account-based strategies, the power of brand-to-demand campaigns, and why aligning sales, marketing, and CS around a single ICP definition is non-negotiable. Plus, Saima and Adam will tackle the ongoing debate around platform consolidation vs. best-of-breed solutions—and why RevOps leaders have strong opinions on both.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why sales, marketing, and CS need to align on ICP—not just for acquisition, but for retentionHow AI agents are transforming BDR workflows without replacing the human touchWhy brand investments are the ultimate edge in an AI-driven marketing worldJump into the conversation:(00:00) Account-based marketing in 2025(02:08) Why ICP alignment is critical for success(05:06) Personalization strategies that drive engagement(07:20) Brand to demand: The key to long-term marketing success(13:37) The rise of the B2B backchannel and its impact on buying decisions(17:50) How AI is changing ABM and enabling smarter outreach

Marketers have never been short on big ideas—but executing them has always been the challenge. Too much time spent on production, data wrangling, and operational headaches has kept teams from focusing on strategy and creativity. Now, AI is flipping that equation. Generative AI isn’t just a new tool; it’s redefining what’s possible in marketing, removing barriers, and accelerating innovation.In this episode, Scott Brinker, VP of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot, breaks down how AI is reshaping the MarTech landscape. He explores why we’re entering a golden age for marketers, how AI is democratizing software development, and what the future holds for personalization, automation, and AI-powered experiences.In this episode, you’ll learn:How AI is transforming marketing strategy beyond content creationThe role of AI in reshaping software, from UX to automationWhat companies need to consider when deploying AI-powered agentsJump into the conversation:(00:00) Introducing Scott Brinker(02:44) Scott Brinker on the evolving MarTech landscape(07:57) How AI is reshaping software experiences(10:38) The impact of AI on marketers and creativity(14:26) Why AI is a bigger shift than the web(17:53) The next era of AI-powered personalization(22:59) Should companies disclose AI interactions?(25:50) How AI is changing jobs and industries

For years, marketers have debated the value of MQLs, with some calling them outdated and others advocating for their evolution. But what if the solution isn’t to abandon MQLs altogether, but to reimagine how they’re used?In this episode, Nadia Davis, Senior Director of Revenue Marketing and Operations at PayIt, shares her unique perspective on the role of MQLs in account-based marketing (ABM). Nadia highlights the operational challenges, change management strategies, and practical adjustments that can make MQLs a valuable signal without letting them take center stage. She also explains how flipping the MQL process can create stronger collaboration between marketing and sales teams.In this episode, you’ll learn:Why MQLs get a bad rap and how to redefine their roleThe operational and change management challenges of ABMPractical ways to align sales and marketing for better outcomesJump into the conversation:(00:00) Introducing Nadia Davis(05:01) The controversy around MQLs in ABM(08:05) Flipping the traditional MQL process(11:50) Using MQLs as signals, not goals(14:08) Timing challenges with MQL engagement(15:40) Operational hurdles in ABM success(18:37) Refining ICPs and account lists(21:52) Change management in ABM adoption(27:05) Bridging offline and online marketing