
Further Comments
Join legal technology experts Damien Riehl and Horace Wu as they explore the intersection of law and technology. In each episode, they discuss the latest trends, tools, and innovations shaping the future of legal practice, from litigation tech to transactional solutions.
Latest episodes

Jan 14, 2025 • 36min
Should Auld Time Billing Be Forgot (ft Adrian Parlow)
Join Horace and Damien as they return from a break to a deep dive discussion with Adrian Parlow, founder and CEO of Point One, on the significance and future of timekeeping in law firms. They explore the persistence of the billable hour, the potential shift towards flat fees, and the role of AI in automating time entries. The conversation delves into how accurate time data can transform law firm efficiency, pricing, and the overall practice, with a spotlight on standardization through systems like SALI.00:00 Welcome Back!02:00 The Future of the Billable Hour04:18 The Importance of Time Data07:54 Challenges in Timekeeping13:07 AI and Automation in Law Firms15:29 Transitioning to Flat Fee Models24:21 Standardizing Legal Data30:39 Looking Ahead: The Future of Time Keeping35:15 Closing Remarks

Dec 16, 2024 • 33min
These Little Piggies Went To The LegalTech Market (ft Stephanie Wilkins)
In this engaging conversation, legal tech expert Stephanie Wilkins shares her insights on the transformative trends shaping the industry in 2024. She dives into the highlights from the TLTF conference, the rising influence of AI, and the dynamic shifts in mid-sized law firms. Wilkins also discusses predictions for 2025, focusing on how generative AI may redefine billing practices. The episode is packed with valuable perspectives on the future of legal technology and its impact on legal services.

Dec 3, 2024 • 33min
A Tag Astray Keeps Adopters Away
In this episode of 'Further Comments', hosts Horace Wu and Damien Riehl engage in a lively discussion on the eve of Thanksgiving (which coincides with Horace's birthday) about increased adoption of generative AI in legal practices, tagging systems in data management, and the complexities of implementing such systems effectively. They also explore the implications of legal technologies as integral components of society's operating system.

Nov 18, 2024 • 51min
Fear and Leveraging Las Agents (ft Jason Barnwell)
In this discussion, Jason Barnwell, a lawyer and engineer specializing in law and technology, unpacks the intersection of AI and legal practices. He clarifies the often misunderstood landscape of AI agents, moving from engineering constructs to philosophical concepts. There's emphasis on the need for transparency and human oversight in legal tech. Barnwell also highlights how tools like ChatGPT can revolutionize tasks, while balancing human cognition with machine intelligence for optimized data use in product design.

Nov 5, 2024 • 42min
You Gotta Fight For Your Right To Standardize Language (ft Electra Japonas)
Electra Japonas, a legal tech innovator and founder of 1NDA, dives into the vital role of standardizing legal documents to boost efficiency in the law sector. She explores the challenges and historical context of creating uniform contracts, especially NDAs. Japonas advocates for a collaborative approach, influenced by generative AI. The discussion also touches on the balancing act between artistic legal documentation and the push for standardized practices, alongside how the transition to tech-enhanced models is reshaping the legal landscape.

Oct 15, 2024 • 44min
Trust Me, This Is The Worst I'll Ever Be (ft Conan Hines)

Oct 5, 2024 • 31min
Differentiations in the Great Convergence of 2024

Sep 15, 2024 • 28min
Horses, Cars, and How to Charge an AI Billable Hour
In this entertaining discussion, the hosts delve into Canva's price hike fueled by new AI features and the concept of 'shitification' in tech. They tackle the clash between profit-driven motives and public benefit in corporations, questioning the ethical implications of prioritizing revenue. The conversation shifts to legal tech, revealing how AI is reshaping traditional billing practices. Music is also on the table, exploring copyright complexities with generative AI and the peculiarities of singing techniques, all sprinkled with humor.

Sep 13, 2024 • 33min