

Fear and Leveraging Las Agents (ft Jason Barnwell)
Nov 18, 2024
In this discussion, Jason Barnwell, a lawyer and engineer specializing in law and technology, unpacks the intersection of AI and legal practices. He clarifies the often misunderstood landscape of AI agents, moving from engineering constructs to philosophical concepts. There's emphasis on the need for transparency and human oversight in legal tech. Barnwell also highlights how tools like ChatGPT can revolutionize tasks, while balancing human cognition with machine intelligence for optimized data use in product design.
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Four Types of AI Agents
- AI agents encompass several distinct concepts, from engineering capabilities to legal implications and philosophical agency.
- This creates market confusion due to overlapping definitions and hype.
The Secretary as Agent
- Jason Barnwell jokes that a lawyer's favorite application is a secretary, highlighting their role as an interface layer between tools and the lawyer.
- Secretaries observe work, act asynchronously with minimal oversight, and augment lawyer's abilities.
Rumsfeld Matrix and AI
- The Rumsfeld Matrix (known knowns, etc.) helps categorize uncertainty, relevant for applying AI in legal.
- LLMs mostly operate in "interpolated spaces" of existing data, but agents can explore "extrapolated spaces" of new possibilities.