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Dec 15, 2025 • 48min

Why AI in user research isn’t replacing real people (yet) with Mario Callegaro

Episode web page: https://bit.ly/3KUDMzV Episode description: In this episode of Insights Unlocked, host Amrit Bhachu sits down with Mario Callegaro, founder of Callegaro Research and a leading expert in survey methodology and AI-augmented research. Mario brings a wealth of experience from his 15 years at Google and shares practical, thoughtful guidance on how to responsibly integrate AI tools into UX, market, and survey research workflows. From the evolving role of the researcher to the risks and potential of synthetic users, this episode unpacks what’s changing, what to be cautious of, and what skills are now essential in the age of AI. What you’ll learn How AI supports every phase of the research workflow: planning, execution, and activation The role of prompt engineering in getting better insights from AI tools Why synthetic users and synthetic data can't yet replace real human participants What researchers are gaining—and potentially losing—by relying on AI The current limitations of large language models in capturing nuance and variability Practical advice on testing and validating AI tools with known datasets Why transparency, iteration, and responsible experimentation are key Resources & links Mario on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcallegaro/) Amrit on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/amritsbhachu/) Callegaro Research (https://callegaroresearch.com/) Quantitative User Experience Association (https://www.quantuxcon.org/) There’s an AI for that (https://theresanaiforthat.com/) Mike on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemace/) Nathan Isaacs on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanisaacs/) Learn more about Insights Unlocked: https://www.usertesting.com/podcast
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Dec 8, 2025 • 20min

Design for AI or disappear with UserTesting's Mike Mace

Episode web page: https://bit.ly/4rA1kKW Episode summary: In this episode of Insights Unlocked, host Nathan Isaacs sits down with Mike Mace, Executive Business Strategist at UserTesting, to explore a major shift already underway in the tech landscape: the rise of AI-powered conversational interfaces. Drawing from decades of industry experience, Mike warns that this is not a distant future trend—it's happening now, and it’s reshaping how companies must approach user experience, product design, and customer interaction. What you’ll learn in this episode: Why companies need to stop treating AI as just a feature and start seeing it as a transformational force How conversational interfaces are changing the rules for software UX—much like the shift to graphical interfaces decades ago Why today’s AI tools require testing not only for usability but also for tone, personality, and brand alignment How emotional responses to AI-driven conversations can dramatically impact user trust and satisfaction Simple strategies companies can use today to evaluate and improve their AI experiences Mike also shares practical advice on how to begin adapting to this shift, including how to use tools like ChatGPT to understand user behaviors and preferences in real time. Resources & links Mike on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemace/) Nathan Isaacs on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanisaacs/) Effective AI: how to choose the right generative AI features (https://www.usertesting.com/resources/guides/how-to-choose-generative-ai-features) Designing AI-powered shopping experiences for the next generation of commerce (https://www.usertesting.com/resources/guides/designing-ai-powered-shopping-experiences-ecommerce) Learn more about Insights Unlocked: https://www.usertesting.com/podcast
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Dec 1, 2025 • 40min

Redefining a beloved brand: What Zoom’s transformation teaches modern business leaders

Episode page: https://bit.ly/44hNGCc Episode description: In this episode of Insights Unlocked, Zoom CMO Kim Storin joins host Johann Wrede for a candid conversation about the realities of leading through transformation. Kim shares why change is harder than most leaders admit and how Zoom is evolving from a company known for meetings to a full multi-product collaboration platform. She also breaks down new Zoom + Deloitte research uncovering surprising gaps in how organizations measure collaboration ROI. From the power of curiosity and calculated risk-taking to the importance of authenticity and community in B2B marketing, Kim offers practical, human-centered guidance for anyone navigating rapid growth or organizational change. Key topics discussed: Why transformation is so challenging: “You can have the greatest strategy in the world, but the culture can make or break it.” Balancing optimism and pragmatism: Kim explains why optimism inspires progress—but only works when paired with realistic planning. Zoom’s evolution beyond meetings: From events to customer support to sales enablement, Zoom is building a more-than-meetings collaboration ecosystem. The collaboration paradox: Workers now spend 25 hours/week on meeting-related tasks—yet companies still struggle to see true productivity and ROI. Community as a competitive edge: Why users proudly say “I’m a Zoom user,” and how brands can build authentic connection at scale. The 3 traits of modern marketing leaders: Curiosity, agility, and the confidence to take calculated risks. Resources and links: Zoom CMO Kim Storin on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberlystorin) Johann Wrede on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannwrede/) Nathan Isaacs on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanisaacs/) Learn more about Insights Unlocked: Nexthttps://www.usertesting.com/podcast
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Nov 24, 2025 • 52min

Innovation-ish: Practical tools for everyday innovators

Episode web page: https://bit.ly/49ucDxK Episode summary: In this episode of Insights Unlocked, UserTesting’s VP of Design Jason Giles sits down with Tessa Forshaw and Rich Braden—co-authors of Innovation-ish and longtime instructors of design thinking at Harvard and Stanford—to explore what truly drives innovation and why most people hesitate to participate in it. Tessa and Rich break down the science behind “innovation hesitation,” share tools for unlocking creativity, and explain how empathy, rapid prototyping, and metacognition can make innovation more human—and less intimidating. Whether you’re a product leader, designer, marketer, or team facilitator, this conversation provides practical strategies to build innovation habits, uncover deeper insights, and help teams think more creatively. What you’ll learn in this episode: Why so many people experience “innovation hesitation”—and how evolutionary wiring shapes our fear of ambiguity A practical framework for understanding innovation across a spectrum—from jump shots to moonshots How empathy physiologically changes the way our brains process information What separates real insights from surface-level feedback How to use rapid prototyping to gather evidence instead of relying on opinions Why metacognition (thinking about how you think) dramatically increases creativity and idea quality Tools and prompts to help teams collaborate, synthesize insights, and tell better innovation stories About the guests: Tessa Forshaw is a cognitive scientist and co-founder of Harvard’s Next Level Lab. She teaches design thinking, innovation, and creative problem solving at Harvard and previously at Stanford. Her research explores how empathy, cognition, and metacognition shape human-centered innovation. Rich Braden is a design strategist with a background that spans software engineering, marketing, and more than a decade of improv teaching. He teaches innovation and design thinking at Stanford and Harvard, blending creative methodologies with practical business experience. Together, Tessa and Rich are the authors of Innovation-ish: How Anyone Can Create Breakthrough Solutions to Real Problems in the Real World. Resources & links: Innovation-ish website – https://innovation-ish.com Tessa Forshaw on LinkedIn –https://www.linkedin.com/in/tessaforshaw/ Rich Braden on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardcoxbraden/ Jason Giles on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaygiles/ Harvard Next Level Lab – https://nextlevellab.gse.harvard.edu Nathan Isaacs on LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanisaacs/ Learn more about Insights Unlocked – https://www.usertesting.com/podcast About the show: Insights Unlocked is the go-to podcast for marketing, UX, product, and CX leaders. Each week, we feature candid conversations with the builders and thinkers behind today’s most impactful customer experiences. Brought to you by UserTesting.
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Nov 17, 2025 • 40min

How customer-centric marketing fuels real growth

Episode web page: https://bit.ly/3XIsfGJ ----------------------- Episode summary: In this episode of Insights Unlocked, Nathan Isaacs talks with marketing powerhouse Bill Macaitis—former CMO of Slack, Zendesk, and Salesforce—about how B2B companies can scale efficiently by prioritizing customer experience, building authentic brands, and embracing new go-to-market models. Bill shares lessons from his career and dives into the importance of customer-centric cultures, long-term thinking, and the strategic use of AI in modern marketing. What you’ll learn in this episode: Why capital-efficient growth beats “growth at all costs”—and how to build it The playbook for operationalizing customer centricity in a B2B environment How to align teams across marketing, product, and sales with shared metrics What most companies get wrong about attribution models How AI can empower marketers—without replacing them The secret to building a B2B brand people actually love (and talk about) Tips for individual contributors to challenge legacy playbooks and advocate for change About the guest: Bill Macaitis is an executive advisor and board member who has led marketing at some of the most iconic names in SaaS, including Slack, Zendesk, and Salesforce. Known for his customer-first approach and bold brand vision, Bill now advises AI startups on how to build scalable, loved companies from the ground up. Resources & Links: Bill Macaitis on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmacaitis/) SaaS CMO Pro website (https://www.saascmopro.com/) SaaS CMO Pro newsletter (https://saascmopro.substack.com/) Bill’s YouTube videos (https://www.youtube.com/@SaaSCMOPro/videos) Nathan Isaacs on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanisaacs/) Learn more about Insights Unlocked: https://www.usertesting.com/podcast
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Nov 10, 2025 • 47min

What most marketers miss about marketing effectiveness with Sorin Patilinet

Episode web page: https://bit.ly/49xoJWL ----------------------- Episode summary: What does it really mean for marketing to be "effective" in today’s complex, data-rich environment? In this episode of Insights Unlocked, Sorin Patilinet—PepsiCo’s Global Marketing Insights leader and author of Marketing Effectiveness—joins UserTesting CMO Johann Wrede for a deep dive into how marketers can shift from tactical fixes to strategic, system-wide thinking. Sorin unpacks the concept of marketing as a system, not just a set of disconnected tactics, and explains how AI and automation can enhance—not replace—human decision-making. From defining what effectiveness actually means within your organization to embracing consistency and simplifying the martech stack, this conversation is full of actionable insights for marketing leaders navigating change. Key themes and topics: Why marketing effectiveness must go beyond ad performance metrics Applying engineering-based systems thinking to brand strategy The evolving role of AI in enhancing marketing decision-making How to define "effectiveness" for your organization—and stick to it The power of creative effectiveness and the compounding impact of consistency Why marketers need to focus more on understanding customers than chasing channels Practical advice for internal stakeholder alignment and building a culture of insights Balancing innovation with simplification in a cluttered martech world Resources & Links: Sorin Patilinet on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/patilinet/) Sorin’s book Marketing Effectiveness (https://marketing-effectiveness.com/) UserTesting’s Johann Wrede on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannwrede/) Nathan Isaacs on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanisaacs/) Learn more about Insights Unlocked: https://www.usertesting.com/podcast About the show: Insights Unlocked is the go-to podcast for marketing, UX, product, and CX leaders. Each week, we feature candid conversations with the builders and thinkers behind today’s most impactful customer experiences. Brought to you by UserTesting (https://usertesting.com/podcast)
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Nov 3, 2025 • 48min

AI employees and the future of work with Surojit Chatterjee

Surojit Chatterjee, the Founder and CEO of Ema and former Chief Product Officer at Coinbase, discusses transformative AI in the workplace. He envisions 'AI employees' as collaborators that reshape workflows, allowing humans to focus on higher-value tasks. Surojit highlights the need for organizations to adapt their legacy systems to an AI-first approach and stresses the importance of customer empathy and rapid experimentation in building effective software. He advises businesses to reskill teams, start early with AI experimentation, and maintain transparency to build trust.
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Oct 27, 2025 • 47min

Finding the content-market fit your customers care about with Ross Simmonds

Episode web page: https://bit.ly/4nZFApH ----------------------- Episode summary: How do you know when your content is hitting the mark? And once you do, how can you scale it efficiently and strategically? In this episode of Insights Unlocked, host Nathan Isaacs sits down with Ross Simmonds, CEO of Foundation, a B2B content marketing agency known for its bold distribution strategies. Ross breaks down how to move beyond guesswork in content marketing by identifying real signals of content-market fit and using those insights to fuel smarter, faster content creation. From mining Reddit threads to making your content "baby unicorns," Ross shares tactical strategies for understanding your audience, experimenting with purpose, and leveraging data to guide decision-making. He also discusses why marketers should embrace AI to scale their efforts and stay competitive—without losing the curiosity and creativity that drives meaningful engagement. Whether you're a solo content creator or part of a larger marketing team, this episode is packed with practical advice on how to produce content that resonates, distributes well, and drives real business results. What you'll learn in this episode: Why content, like products, needs to have a strong fit with your audience How to spot signals of content-market fit across platforms like Reddit, X (Twitter), LinkedIn, and more Why you need to slow down in order to move faster—and how to "be the meerkat" in your marketing strategy Tips for running quarterly content reviews and influencing stakeholders with data How one tweet became a foundational content pillar for Ross’s entire brand strategy The role of curiosity and experimentation in finding new content channels before they’re saturated How to embrace AI to boost efficiency, scale distribution, and improve as a marketer Resources & Links: Ross Simmonds on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosssimmonds/) Foundation (https://foundationinc.co/) Distribution.ai (http://Distribution.ai) Nathan Isaacs on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanisaacs/) Learn more about Insights Unlocked: https://www.usertesting.com/podcast About the show: Insights Unlocked is the go-to podcast for marketing, UX, product, and CX leaders. Each week, we feature candid conversations with the builders and thinkers behind today’s most impactful customer experiences. Brought to you by UserTesting
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Oct 20, 2025 • 36min

Why empathy still wins in an AI-powered world with Sara Fortier from Outwitly

Episode web page: https://bit.ly/43n2Y89 ----------------------- Episode summary: In this episode of Insights Unlocked, host Nathan Isaacs sits down with Sara Fortier—founder and CEO of Outwitly, Silicon Valley design veteran, and author of the upcoming book Design Research Mastery. Together, they explore the enduring relevance of human-centered design in an age increasingly dominated by AI tools. Sara breaks down what human-centered design really means and why it remains essential, even as AI accelerates many aspects of product development. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why empathy and qualitative insights are irreplaceable, even with powerful AI tools at your fingertips How to win over skeptical stakeholders by speaking their language and showing business value What synthetic users can and can’t do in research workflows Tips for early-career designers on staying relevant and strategic in a rapidly evolving UX landscape How to balance AI efficiencies with the human touch in high-stakes product decisions Sara also explains how AI can give researchers back the time to do more meaningful work—if used wisely—and the kinds of soft skills every designer should prioritize to thrive in the coming decade. Resources & Links: Sara on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarafortier/) Outwitly website (https://outwitly.com/) Outwitly Academy (https://outwitlyacademy.thinkific.com/courses/design-research-mastery) Design Research Mastery Book - Preorders (https://a.co/d/apa6alB) Nathan Isaacs on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanisaacs/) Learn more about Insights Unlocked: https://www.usertesting.com/podcast
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Oct 13, 2025 • 47min

Flipping the funnel starts with knowing your customers with Sangram Vajre

In this episode of Insights Unlocked, host Nathan Isaacs sits down with Sangram Vajre—co-founder of Terminus and GTM Partners, bestselling author, and pioneer of the Flip My Funnel movement—to explore how customer-first thinking reshapes business growth. Sangram recounts the moment of inspiration that led to flipping the traditional sales funnel on its head and how that napkin sketch evolved into a movement that transformed B2B marketing. Sangram also shares insights from his MOVE framework (Market, Operations, Velocity, Expansion), offering a fresh lens for diagnosing go-to-market (GTM) challenges at every stage of business growth. He dives into the rise of fractional leadership, the role of AI in driving customer insight and product innovation, and why focusing on Net Revenue Retention (NRR) may be the single best way to align teams around growth. Whether you're in marketing, product, UX, or customer experience, this episode will challenge how you think about pipeline, growth, and what it really means to put the customer first. What you’ll learn in this episode:  The origin story behind Flip My Funnel and how it reshaped ABM and B2B marketing Why most marketing and sales funnels fail—and what to do instead The MOVE framework: a diagnostic tool for GTM strategy How Net Revenue Retention (NRR) is the ultimate measure of customer-centric growth The rise of fractional roles and what it means for the future of work How AI is changing the way we listen to and serve customers at scale Resources & Links: Sangram Vajre on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/sangramvajre/) GTM Partners (https://gtmpartners.com/) MOVE and other books (https://sangramvajre.com) GTM Mondays newsletter on Substack (https://gtmonday.substack.com/) Nathan Isaacs on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanisaacs/) Learn more about Insights Unlocked: https://www.usertesting.com/podcast

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