

The Practice of the Practice Podcast | Where Modern Psychology Meets the Business of Therapy
Joe Sanok | Private Practice Consultant, TEDx Speaker & Author of Thursday is the New Friday
Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You’ll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.
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Dec 19, 2025 • 38min
High Conflict with NYT Bestseller Amanda Ripley | POP 1318
How do we stay grounded when the world around us feels increasingly unstable? What if the key to navigating conflict isn’t persuasion, but curiosity? How can our conversations and relationships […]
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Dec 18, 2025 • 45min
Scaling with Soul: Designing a Practice That Reflects Your Value with Roni White | POP 1317
What does it mean to be fully intentional when building and expanding a private practice? How can growing into a group practice create opportunities not just for clients, but also […]
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Dec 17, 2025 • 12min
Building Great Lakes Online Counseling: From Side-Gig to Sellable Practice | POP 1316
When should you work with a credentialing company, and do things on your own? How much can you get done in your side-gig job over two hours a week? Why […]
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Dec 16, 2025 • 24min
Starting a Private Practice: Legal With John David Gardiner | POP 1315
What’s the best way to pay your staff in a way that supports them as well as the practice? How can you tell whether you should file your practice as […]
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Dec 12, 2025 • 17min
Starting a Private Practice: Credentialing with Kay Ward | POP 1314
How do you credential your therapists across multiple states with insurance? Which paperwork do you need to have ready? How long does it take before you can start seeing clients? […]
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Dec 11, 2025 • 40min
3 Components to Growth Part 3: Embracing Humility to Fuel Your Practice Growth | POP 1313
What is the powerful connection between humility and growth? How do you view the quality of “humility”? Can you reframe the traditional definition of humility with something that empowers you […]
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Dec 10, 2025 • 29min
Nutritional Healing with Dr. Darren Schmidt, D.C. | POP 1312
If the body is constantly signaling what it needs, are we truly listening, or just treating the noise? How often do we overlook the foundation of wellness by focusing on […]
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Dec 9, 2025 • 29min
Starting a Practice: Building to Sell with Dan King | POP 1311
What would happen to your practice’s value if a potential buyer walked in today and reviewed the stats? How resilient is your business model if one major payer disappeared tomorrow? […]
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Dec 5, 2025 • 32min
What Psychologists Screw Up with Dr. Leah Clionsky | POP 1310
What opportunities might open for your practice if you stopped avoiding what scares you? How much more impact could you make if your podcast had a clear, intentional direction? What […]
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Dec 4, 2025 • 38min
3 Components to Growth Part 2 with Brandon Shurn | POP 1309
Have you ever felt that you have been holding yourself back from achieving your goals? How strong is your discipline? What do you need to do to get out of […]
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