

CFO THOUGHT LEADER
The Future of Finance is Listening
CFO THOUGHT LEADER is a podcast featuring firsthand accounts of finance leaders who are driving change within their organizations.
We share the career journey of our spotlighted CFO guest: What do they struggle with? How do they persevere? What makes them successful CFOs? CFO THOUGHT LEADER is all about inspiring finance professionals to take a leadership leap. We know that by hearing about the successes — (and yes, also the failures) — of others, today’s CFOs can more confidently chart their own leadership paths across the enterprise and take inspired action.
We share the career journey of our spotlighted CFO guest: What do they struggle with? How do they persevere? What makes them successful CFOs? CFO THOUGHT LEADER is all about inspiring finance professionals to take a leadership leap. We know that by hearing about the successes — (and yes, also the failures) — of others, today’s CFOs can more confidently chart their own leadership paths across the enterprise and take inspired action.
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Sep 22, 2024 • 38min
1,036: The Power of AI in Shaping Strategic Finance Leadership | Zane Rowe, CFO, Workday
Zane Rowe, CFO of Workday and former CFO at United Airlines, shares his unique journey from the airline industry to technology. He discusses how AI is transforming finance, emphasizing its role as a strategic asset rather than just a process tool. Rowe highlights the importance of data-driven efficiency, drawing from his past experiences to illuminate AI's impact on decision-making. He also reflects on the value of mentorship and networking for new leaders, advocating for a dynamic approach to finance leadership in a tech-centric world.

Sep 18, 2024 • 59min
1035: Balancing Growth and Sustainability: The Financial Strategy Behind Health Innovation | Daniel Welch, CFO, Kate Farms
In 2018, Daniel Welch made a life-altering decision. After a decade in investment banking, working on high-profile IPOs and M&A deals at Morgan Stanley, Welch found himself at a crossroads. The birth of his daughter and a health scare involving his father led him to question the career path he was on. “I was mentally stimulated by the work, but it didn’t align with my personal values,” Welch reflects. Burnt out and seeking more purpose, he left the corporate finance world to pursue mission-driven opportunities in the health and wellness sector.Welch’s career pivot first brought him to Sonos, where he helped lead the company through its IPO. He later transitioned to Oura, the maker of the Oura Ring, guiding the company through a critical growth stage. These experiences solidified his desire to combine financial expertise with personal passion.In 2022, Welch found his ideal role as CFO of Kate Farms, a plant-based medical nutrition company revolutionizing the field. Kate Farms focuses on providing organic, plant-based nutrition products, free of common allergens and designed to improve health outcomes for patients in medical need. Its mission resonated deeply with Welch’s personal health journey, which began with his transition to a plant-based diet.Backed by investors like Goldman Sachs Private Equity and Novo Holdings, Kate Farms continues to grow its presence in hospitals and home care systems across the U.S., making Welch’s leadership integral to the company’s scaling efforts. His career transformation highlights how purpose and profit can intersect when leadership is guided by personal values.

Sep 15, 2024 • 49min
1,034: From Earnings Growth to Long-Term Success: A CFO’s Strategic Shift | Deanna Strable, COO & president (CFO emerita), Principal Financial Group
Deanna Strable, a seasoned executive with over 30 years of experience, shares her unexpected journey as CFO of Principal Financial Group. She discusses the shift from a narrow focus on earnings growth to broader metrics like capital allocation and customer satisfaction. Strable emphasizes the importance of blending operational insight with financial expertise to drive long-term success. She also touches on the transformative impact of AI in finance and her passion for mentoring the next generation of finance leaders, offering valuable insights for aspiring CFOs.

Sep 13, 2024 • 34min
1033: The ‘Buy or Build’ Moment: Preserving Your Firm's Entrepreneurial Spirit | Ben Averis, CFO, Yoto
Ben Averis, CFO of Yoto and an expert in finance and private equity, shares his journey from PwC to leading Yoto, a founder-led company prioritizing customer engagement. He delves into the challenges of mergers and acquisitions, particularly the 'buy or build' moment, emphasizing how larger companies can lose their customer-centric focus. Ben also discusses innovations at Yoto, including their unique children’s audio platform and the role of AI in enhancing operational efficiency while maintaining a strong connection to customers.

Sep 11, 2024 • 57min
1,032: From Bitcoin to AI: How Financial Strategy Can Drive a Company’s Evolution | Patrick Fleury, CFO, TeraWulf
It was during the first half of 2024 that press reports first surfaced to suggest that Bitcoin pioneer TeraWulf was seeking to make a bold strategic pivot into AI and high-power compute. Along the front lines of this move stood Patrick Fleury, TeraWulf’s action-oriented CFO, whose short tenure at the firm thus far has been notable for its aggressive cost-cutting measures and bold efforts to address the company’s debt. Moreover, Fleury’s focus on the optimization of the cash flow from TeraWulf’s Bitcoin-mining operations has proved crucial in stabilizing the company during turbulent market conditions.It is perhaps surprising to learn—given his success as a CFO—that Fleury had not always envisioned himself in this role. Having spent 16 years as a strategic investor, he had been content in working from the sidelines, guiding companies through investments and strategy. Becoming a public-company CFO had never been on his radar. Still, when TeraWulf needed a leader to guide it through significant challenges, his deep understanding of financial markets and investment strategy turned out to make him the ideal choice.Fleury’s unique investor mind-set has been instrumental in charting TeraWulf’s new growth trajectory. His ability to engage investors, simplify complex industry dynamics, and clearly demonstrate “value” has been key to gaining investor buy-in for TeraWulf’s new direction. Moreover, his experience on the buy-side has provided him with valuable insight into what investors look for—transparency, potential for growth, and clear financial discipline.This ability to communicate effectively, coupled with his strategic acumen, has allowed Fleury to lay the groundwork for TeraWulf’s shift into AI and high-power compute. By looking at decisions through an investor’s lens, he has garnered the ability to build trust with stakeholders while at the same time positioning TeraWulf as a forward-thinking player in the rapidly evolving AI and data center sectors. Fortunately for his firm, Fleury’s financial leadership continues to drive TeraWulf toward a promising future in these high-growth markets.

Sep 8, 2024 • 48min
1,031: Unlocking Operational Scale in Health Insurance Through AI and Data | Scott Blackley, CFO, Oscar Health
When Scott Blackley was asked in kindergarten what he wanted to be when he grew up, his answer was surprisingly clear: “I want to be an auditor.” This early ambition was no coincidence; his father was a partner at KPMG, and young Blackley grew up around the firm’s offices, imagining himself one day sitting at a big desk, overseeing important work. True to his dream, he eventually ended up following in his father’s footsteps to become a partner at KPMG and invest a dozen career years there.Despite achieving his childhood goal and carrying on the family legacy, though, Blackley eventually found himself at a crossroads. “It was a tough decision to leave KPMG,” he recalls, “but some of the experiences that I had had involving other people’s business problems had made me want to own them.” This realization marked a turning point in his career that fueled his desire to take on more responsibility and solve problems on a firsthand basis.This drive led Blackley to Oscar Health, where he stepped into the CFO role during a pivotal moment. Reflecting on his early days at the company, Blackley observes, “When I joined, one of the things that I walked in the door with was a commitment to myself that I was going to be thoughtful about taking the time to understand the situation and then decisive about making decisions.” Consequently, within 90 days, he would end up reorganizing the finance function to separate FP&A from the controller’s office and hiring a new leader to build a more structured finance organization—one capable of supporting Oscar Health’s ambitious plans for growth and transformation.

Sep 4, 2024 • 58min
1,030: Leveraging Global Expertise to Shape ADP’s Financial Future | Don McGuire, CFO, ADP
Don McGuire, CFO of ADP and former EMEA president, shares his unexpected journey back to finance after years in global leadership roles. He reflects on the importance of adaptability and relationship-building in navigating a career shift. The conversation highlights the evolving role of finance, emphasizing strategic insights through AI and enhanced forecasting. McGuire also draws from diverse experiences, including his past as an ice hockey referee, showcasing how unique paths can enrich leadership perspectives. His insights are both inspiring and informative.

Sep 1, 2024 • 24min
Bonus Episode: Early Beginnings
In this bonus episode of CFO Thought Leader, host Jack Sweeney shares insightful stories from three finance leaders, focusing on their early beginnings and how those experiences shaped their careers. Scott Healy reflects on the influence of his father, an Air Force colonel, and his deaf brother, both of whom instilled a strong work ethic and a spirit of perseverance. Tracy Curley discusses her non-traditional path, balancing business experience with academic pursuits while navigating the challenges of being a military spouse. Lastly, Svai Sanford recounts his journey from being a Laotian refugee with a third-grade education to becoming a CFO, thanks to the support of his foster family. Each story highlights the significance of resilience, family influence, and the transformative power of education and opportunity.

Aug 30, 2024 • 43min
Strategic Relationship Building in FP&A- A Planning Aces Episode
Brett Knowles, a thought leader in finance, emphasizes the crucial role of strategic relationships in FP&A. He discusses the shift to virtual meetings post-COVID and the challenges of maintaining effective communication. Brett advocates for thorough preparation and diverse perspectives to enhance decision-making. He also delves into the integration of acquisitions and the evolving responsibilities of FP&A professionals, underlining the importance of adaptive leadership and collaboration in today’s complex business landscape.

Aug 28, 2024 • 52min
1,029: A Unique Advantage: When CEO Experience Informs CFO Leadership | Matt Steinfort, CFO, DigitalOcean
While most CFOs climb the ranks through finance-related roles, Steinfort’s path took a significant detour—one that saw him leading a company as CEO before unexpectedly stepping into the CFO role.Steinfort’s transition from CEO to CFO occurred when he was approached by Dan Caruso, a long-time mentor and successful entrepreneur. The two had a history of working together, starting at Level 3 Communications and continuing through various ventures. When Steinfort was leading Envision, a software company he co-founded, Caruso was simultaneously building Zayo Group. Although their roles were in separate companies, they shared an office space, fostering a close working relationship.When Zayo’s CFO decided to retire, Caruso saw an opportunity for Steinfort. Despite his lack of a traditional finance background, Steinfort had accumulated significant experience in corporate strategy during his years as a consultant for Bain & Company, and meanwhile his business-building tenure as a CEO made him more than a little familiar with the complexities of strategic budgeting and resource allocation. These experiences, combined with the trust and confidence he had built with Caruso and the board, positioned him as an unconventional yet highly capable candidate for the CFO role at Zayo.Steinfort’s move from CEO to CFO, while rare, highlights the importance of adaptability and leveraging one’s broad skill set. His success in the CFO role, first at Zayo and now at DigitalOcean, underscores the value of diverse experiences in shaping a holistic approach to financial leadership.


