

CFO THOUGHT LEADER
The Future of Finance is Listening
CFO THOUGHT LEADER is a podcast featuring firsthand accounts of finance leaders who are driving change within their organizations.
We share the career journey of our spotlighted CFO guest: What do they struggle with? How do they persevere? What makes them successful CFOs? CFO THOUGHT LEADER is all about inspiring finance professionals to take a leadership leap. We know that by hearing about the successes — (and yes, also the failures) — of others, today’s CFOs can more confidently chart their own leadership paths across the enterprise and take inspired action.
We share the career journey of our spotlighted CFO guest: What do they struggle with? How do they persevere? What makes them successful CFOs? CFO THOUGHT LEADER is all about inspiring finance professionals to take a leadership leap. We know that by hearing about the successes — (and yes, also the failures) — of others, today’s CFOs can more confidently chart their own leadership paths across the enterprise and take inspired action.
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Jul 3, 2024 • 37min
Standardize, Streamline & Scale - A Planning Aces Episode
In this engaging discussion, Robert Cornella, the seasoned CFO known for his expertise in value chain economics, emphasizes the need for predictable revenue in complex mergers. Karen Williams, CFO at American Express Global Business Travel, shares insights on leveraging diverse data sources and customer feedback for strategic advantages. Tony Querciagrossa, CFO at Pinstripes, reflects on his entrepreneurial journey, advocating for alignments in financial support to foster collaboration and address broader business challenges. Together, they explore the evolving role of finance and the importance of analytical skills.

Jun 30, 2024 • 49min
1,013: The Curious CFO: Crafting the Future of Space | Muhammad Shahzad, CFO, Relativity Space
Mo Shahzad is not one for trivial conversations. At Relativity Space, he’s known for his deep curiosity, often engaging team members in discussions about their interests and passions. This intellectual curiosity is not just a personal trait—it’s a vital tool for his role as CFO. Mo’s ability to connect on a personal level mirrors his professional mission: translating the innovative dreams of Relativity Space’s founders into a compelling narrative for investors.

Jun 28, 2024 • 44min
Controllers Classified: A VC’s perspective on what financial data matters most
In the season 1 finale of Controllers Classified, host Erik Zhou is joined by Sarah Hinkfuss from Bain Capital Ventures for an overview of the VC investment landscape and a deep dive into her investment due diligence approach for growth stage companies. The episode begins with Sarah highlighting milestones from her career, including her time conducting water pricing research in the Middle East, her transition into tech, and her pivot from tech into investing. Underlying everything is her passion for empirical based decision making and a belief that complex problems require a multidisciplinary approach. The conversation then pivots to the investment landscape. Sarah explains the relationship between companies, VCs, and LPs, and how the macroeconomic environment is driving a “flight to quality”. The result is companies are being asked to balance growth and profitability, and increasingly making hard decisions around what to keep and what to cut. Sarah then gives listeners an insider's look at her investment due diligence approach for growth stage companies, underscoring the importance of a company’s financials in this process. She spends some time explaining why unit economics and a business model are so important and notes that it’s not just about seeing the numbers. A founder must have a clear narrative about what drives their business and where they see things going in the future. Sarah also touches on the transition from Series A to Series B, and the nuances in the fundraising process for early vs. growth stage companies. This episode is a must-listen for founders & finance leaders aiming to navigate the complexities of fundraising in today’s macroeconomic environment.

Jun 26, 2024 • 45min
1,012: The Last Unlock: Empowering Teams | John Lutz, CFO, Sellars
Looking back, John Lutz doesn't hesitate to recall a strategic turn along his career journey when, during his tenure as director of finance at Charter Steel, he transitioned a cumbersome, error-prone Excel model into an advanced, activity-based costing system. By involving stakeholders from across the company, Lutz tells us he not only gained buy-in but also unlocked the power of teams to create a tool that transformed the way the business operated, enhancing both efficiency and profitability.Years later, as CFO of Sellars, a manufacturer of household products and supplies, Lutz spearheaded efforts to modernize the company’s data infrastructure. “We’ve come a long way in two years,” says Lutz, who tells us that in the not-too-distant past, the company’s data storage strategy involved a row of filing cabinets. Along the way, real-time dashboards replaced static reports, enabling instant access to crucial data. These changes, Lutz explains, turned the finance department into a strategic partner that proactively identified and addressed issues.His commitment to leveraging technology hasn’t stopped there, as he looks to introduce robotic process automation to streamline repetitive tasks, freeing up his team to focus on higher-value activities. Extending beyond internal collaborations, his approach to empowering teams was further evidenced by his close cooperation with supply chain partners to optimize procurement processes and nurture long-term, sustainable relationships.Lutz's CFO mindset exemplifies how embracing the power of teams and technology can drive transformative change. By fostering collaboration, leveraging data, and empowering his team, Lutz says he has been able to propel organizations forward, demonstrating that finance can be a catalyst for strategic growth and innovation.

Jun 23, 2024 • 39min
1,011: Balancing Agility and Structure for Strategic Growth | Carol Lee, CFO, LogicMonitor
Beginning her career as an analyst, Carol Lee honed her technical skills both in pre-revenue start-ups and a multinational corporation with over $10 billion in revenue. These contrasting environments, she tells us, equipped her with a unique perspective on what it takes to be both scrappy and scalable.Early in her career, Lee immersed herself in M&A activities, gaining insights from both the buy and sell sides. As an analyst, she was able to absorb vast amounts of financial information and build detailed models as she observed high-stakes negotiations from up close. These experiences were instrumental in understanding the end-to-end processes of M&A, from financial scrutiny to integration and synergy realization. This comprehensive view became invaluable to her as she emerged as a finance leader.Lee’s tenure at 100-year-old Konica Minolta exposed her to large-scale operations and the intricacies of synchronized business processes. This period taught her the importance of structured, efficient workflows and the necessity of diverse go-to-market strategies. These insights became crucial when she transitioned to the fast-paced environment of Silicon Valley tech start-ups, where agility and rapid decision-making are essential.In her first CFO role at GoodData, a VC-backed company, Lee embraced the chaos and speed of the start-up culture. Her ability to balance structured financial oversight with the need for flexibility and rapid experimentation became a hallmark of her leadership. This balance, coupled with a deep understanding of various business scales and sectors, defines Lee’s CFO mindset today.Lee emphasizes the importance of communication, storytelling, and partnership in finance leadership. By integrating technical acumen with strategic foresight and a collaborative approach, she navigates the complexities of scaling businesses while fostering innovation and growth.

Jun 21, 2024 • 38min
Special Episode: The 20 Leading CFOs of AI
CFO Thought Leader host Jack Sweeney and performance management guru Brett Knowles explore and highlight the takeaways from The 20 Leading CFOs of AI report, recently published by CFO Thought Leader. The conversation underscores the ethical challenges posed by AI and the critical role CFOs play in ensuring responsible governance. Notable examples like Krishna Rao of Anthropic and Colette Kress of Nvidia. As AI continues to revolutionize industries, CFOs are tasked with balancing innovation and ethical stewardship.

Jun 19, 2024 • 59min
1,010: When SaaS Became His Native Language | Michael O'Grady, CFO, Permutive
Michael O’Grady’s finance strategic moment occurred in 2014 at higher-ed tech company Ellucian. Faced with transitioning from a traditional perpetual license model to a SaaS one, he identified the need for a unified approach across all business functions. Recognizing that the company’s executives had differing visions, he proposed skipping the annual budget process to focus on a 5-year integrated plan. This comprehensive strategy, developed with input from all departments, required significant investment but also was crucial for the company’s transformation. The plan’s success ultimately contributed to Ellucian’s acquisition by TPG for $3.5 billion, demonstrating the power of cohesive strategic financial planning. O’Grady’s journey to becoming a finance executive was far from linear. In his early years, he was uncertain about his career path. He had a passion for languages, which led him to work for Berlitz, the global language education company. Fluent in three languages, he found that his experience at Berlitz broadened his perspective and honed his communication skills. Still, something was missing.Increasingly, O’Grady found himself intrigued by the complexities of business and finance. He decided to pursue further education in the latter, where his analytical mind and problem-solving skills began to shine. His first major career step in finance was at a midsize manufacturing firm. Here, he encountered the realities of budget constraints and resource allocation, learning the critical importance of aligning financial goals with broader company strategies.By the time he joined Ellucian, O’Grady had built a wealth of diverse experiences that had shaped his financial acumen. His ability to integrate different departmental visions into a cohesive financial strategy helped not only to transform Ellucian’s business model but also to self-validate his growing ambitions to become a CFO.

Jun 16, 2024 • 43min
1,009: From GE Conference Rooms to Pinstripes’ Boardroom | Tony Querciagrossa, CFO, Pinstripes
Experienced CFO Tony Querciagrossa talks about pivoting Pinstripes during the pandemic, transitioning from GE, and collaborating with Banyan SPAC. Discusses his proactive finance skills, IPO challenges, and strategic growth plans in the dining industry.

Jun 14, 2024 • 43min
ON LOCATION: IMA24 Uncovering New Educational Pathways
On Location IMA24 (San Antonio, TX) the annual America's conference for the Institute of Management Accountants (IMA) CFO Thought Leader Host Jack Sweeney speaks to Mike DePrisco, IMA President and CEO, about the evolving importance of certifications like the CMA (Certified Management Accountant) and the newly established FMAA (Financial and Managerial Accounting Associate) to support early-career individuals. DePrisco stressed the need for personalized professional development to cater to unique career motivations and the critical role of CFOs in promoting continuous learning.The IMA is focusing on stackable digital credentials in areas like AI and cybersecurity to help professionals specialize further. Additionally, the IMA plans geographic expansion, notably into Japan, and aims to strengthen partnerships with academic institutions and organizations.Dianna Steinbach, IMA SVP growth, highlights the opportunities for growth both domestically and internationally, with a strategic push into Japan due to its need for financial management and analysis (FP&A) resources.

Jun 12, 2024 • 41min
1,008: Managing Change and Ensuring Stability | Erica Gessert, CFO, Upwork
Experienced CFO Erica Gessert discusses managing change during the Great Recession, steering companies through uncertainty. She shares insights on stabilizing Upwork's finances, leveraging data analytics, and achieving profitability. The podcast also covers advice for new CFOs, the importance of cash management, and company priorities for the future.