
WE GRWN?
Welcome to We Grwn? Video Podcast. WE are Moyo, Shaun and Jess, friends from college who want to hike, but don't! This video podcast is an opportunity for us to get together and document our friendship and our lives, individually and together.
GRWN for us stands for Getting Real (Old), What Now? We hope to unpack what it means for us to be GRWN, how we’ve GRWN through the years, and how our friendship will develop through the constant changes of life.
Latest episodes

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Aug 30, 2023 • 41min
Breaking Free, Growth, Pushing Buttons, Finances, In-Laws | We Learned Lessons? | #wegrwn | S2E16
The podcast discusses various interesting topics such as dietary restrictions due to aging, lessons learned in marriage, understanding and adapting in marriage, money and blending families, dealing with in-laws, and shortcomings of the parenting chapter in the book being discussed. The hosts also share personal anecdotes and experiences related to these topics.

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Aug 16, 2023 • 59min
Icks, Comparison, Outsourcing, Quitting is Self Care | We Have Self Worth? | #wegrwn | S2E15
Comedian and author Kevin Fredericks and writer Melissa Fredericks dive into topics such as self-worth, negative self-talk, comparison, outsourcing, and how quitting can be an act of self-care. They also touch on adult responsibilities, the importance of clear labeling for vegan products, and the complexities of self-esteem. The podcast episode also includes discussions on affirmations, self-care, and the support they receive from their caring husbands.

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Aug 2, 2023 • 56min
Forced Marriage, Imperfection, Prenups, Greek Love, Keeping it Spicy |We Divorced?| #wegrwn | S2E14
Jess, Shaun, and Moyo dive back into "Marriage Be Hard" by Kevin Fredericks and Melissa Fredericks and talk about Divorce.
Topics we discuss in this episode:
-Comfort Over Fashion
-Our understanding of marriage, Past and Present
-Forced Relationships
-No Escape
-Is Divorce an option?
-Happiness
-Peace
-Imperfection
-Prenups
-How our parents marriages affected ours
-Greek Love
-Keeping it Spicy
-Love is a choice
This is a guided book discussion and not a review and we would love for you all to join the conversation!!
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Books, Shirts, and Merch!
https://eskayjohns.com/
Shirts - https://www.teepublic.com/user/shaunie-j-designs
Music - Ice Kenkey Beat - Nana Kwabena
Follow us on Instagram:
https://instagram.com/we.grwn?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
Check out our linktree:
https://linktr.ee/we.grwn?
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CHECK OUT THESE VIDEOS TO LEARN
MORE ABOUT US:
Into -
https://youtu.be/6u_x3y2CsCY
Meet Shaun's Husband:
https://youtu.be/FmhXfGjKs18
Meet Moyo's Husband:
https://youtu.be/QgjaWAvV3EY
Meet Jess' Husband:
https://youtu.be/pQZ6ngaiwTw
We Grwn? Season 1:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8ZgojHwixx2WDCkUGiPlLvL
We Grwn? Season 2 - Marriage Be Hard:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8YGjjg3gKf7e4yA775UDp8D

Jul 19, 2023 • 1h 10min
Lock down, Racism, Police Brutality, Hoarding, Sims, COVID Babies | We Quarantine? | #wegrwn | S2E13
Jess, Shaun, and Moyo dive back into "Marriage Be Hard" by Kevin Fredericks and Melissa Fredericks and talk about Quarantine.
Topics we discuss in this episode:
- Volunteering at a school
- Being pregnant in quarantine
- Having a baby in quarantine
- European lockdown
- Quarantine for Introverts vs Extroverts
- Routines and Hobbies
- Sims Addiction
- Reconnecting with friends
- Partying and Church
- Race talks
- Dealing with Racism
- Police Brutality
- Feet
- Binging
- Organizing and Hoarding
This is a guided book discussion and not a review and we would love for you all to join the conversation!!
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Books, Shirts, and Merch!
https://eskayjohns.com/
Shirts - https://www.teepublic.com/user/shaunie-j-designs
Music - Ice Kenkey Beat - Nana Kwabena
Follow us on Instagram:
https://instagram.com/we.grwn?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
Check out our linktree:
https://linktr.ee/we.grwn?
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CHECK OUT THESE VIDEOS TO LEARN
MORE ABOUT US:
Into -
https://youtu.be/6u_x3y2CsCY
Meet Shaun's Husband:
https://youtu.be/FmhXfGjKs18
Meet Moyo's Husband:
https://youtu.be/QgjaWAvV3EY
Meet Jess' Husband:
https://youtu.be/pQZ6ngaiwTw
We Grwn? Season 1:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8ZgojHwixx2WDCkUGiPlLvL
We Grwn? Season 2 - Marriage Be Hard:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8YGjjg3gKf7e4yA775UDp8D

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Jul 5, 2023 • 1h 6min
Raising Black Kids,Test, Fails, Struggles, New Age, Gentle Parenting | We Parents? | #wegrwn | S2E12
Jess, Shaun, and Moyo dive back into "Marriage Be Hard" by Kevin Fredericks and Melissa Fredericks and talk about Parenting. This episode we took a little detour from the book and discussed The Parent Test TV show on ABC.
Topics we discuss in this episode:
- Teaching moment fails
- Parenting Styles we grew up with
- Our current/anticipated Parenting Styles
- Consequences vs Punishment
- Gentle parenting
- Allowing kids to make decisions
- Being Triggered by others parent
- Our critique of the show
Parent Test parenting styles
- Child led
- Traditional
- Disciplined
- Strict
- High achieving
- Free range
- New age
- Helicopter
- Natural
- Intensive
- Routine
- Negotiation
https://www.distractify.com/p/the-parent-test-parenting-styles
4 actual parenting styles
- Authoritative parenting (democratic)
- Authoritarian parenting (disciplinarian)
- Permissive parenting (indulgent)
- Neglectful parenting (uninvolved)
This is a guided book/show discussion and not a review and we would love for you all to join the conversation!!
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Books, Shirts, and Merch!
https://eskayjohns.com/
Shirts - https://www.teepublic.com/user/shaunie-j-designs
Music - Ice Kenkey Beat - Nana Kwabena
Follow us on Instagram:
https://instagram.com/we.grwn?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
Check out our linktree:
https://linktr.ee/we.grwn?
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CHECK OUT THESE VIDEOS TO LEARN
MORE ABOUT US:
Into -
https://youtu.be/6u_x3y2CsCY
Meet Shaun's Husband:
https://youtu.be/FmhXfGjKs18
Meet Moyo's Husband:
https://youtu.be/QgjaWAvV3EY
Meet Jess' Husband:
https://youtu.be/pQZ6ngaiwTw
We Grwn? Season 1:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8ZgojHwixx2WDCkUGiPlLvL
We Grwn? Season 2 - Marriage Be Hard:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8YGjjg3gKf7e4yA775UDp8D

Jun 21, 2023 • 1h 3min
Fighting Fair, Public Disagreements, Empathy, Compromise, Growth | We Fighting? | #wegrwn | S2E11
Jess, Moyo, and Shaun discuss segments from the book "Marriage Be Hard" by Kevin Fredericks and Melissa Fredericks and talk about fighting within their relationships.
Topics we discuss in this episode:
- Having disagreements/fighting with our partners in public
- Do we fight fair?
- How to fight fair
- How we saw our parents fight growing up
- Teaching kids how to fight
- Is the word "Female" appropriate when addressing women?
- Fighting in our friendship
As always, that this is a guided book discussion and not a review and we would love for you all to join the conversation!!
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Books, Shirts, and Merch! - https://eskayjohns.com/
Shirts - https://www.teepublic.com/user/shaunie-j-designs
Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/shop/ShaunieJShirts
Music - Ice Kenkey Beat - Nana Kwabena
Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/we.grwn?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
Check out our linktree: https://linktr.ee/we.grwn?
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CHECK OUT THESE VIDEOS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT US:
Into - https://youtu.be/6u_x3y2CsCY
Meet Shaun's Husband: https://youtu.be/FmhXfGjKs18
Meet Moyo's Husband: https://youtu.be/QgjaWAvV3EY
Meet Jess' Husband: https://youtu.be/pQZ6ngaiwTw
We Grwn? Season 1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8ZgojHwixx2WDCkUGiPlLvL
We Grwn? Season 2 - Marriage Be Hard: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8YGjjg3gKf7e4yA775UDp8D

Jun 7, 2023 • 47min
Fidelity, Faithful, Cheating, Loyal, Sugar Mama, Sugar Daddy | We Cheating? | #wegrwn | S2E10
Jess, Moyo, and Shaun discuss segments from the book "Marriage Be Hard" by Kevin Fredericks and Melissa Fredericks and talk about fidelity within their relationships.
Topics we discuss in this episode:
- Attending concerts
- Clubbing
- Being caught
- Sharing passwords with your spouse
- Following your spouse on socal media
- Social media and the accessibility of cheating
- Have we witnessed or committed infidelity?
- Being the other person
- Nigerian men cheat!
- How to not loose your spark in marriage
- Would we snitch if we found out one of us was cheating?
As always, that this is a guided book discussion and not a review and we would love for you all to join the conversation!!
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Books, Shirts, and Merch! - https://eskayjohns.com/
Shirts - https://www.teepublic.com/user/shaunie-j-designs
Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/shop/ShaunieJShirts
Music - Ice Kenkey Beat - Nana Kwabena
Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/we.grwn?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
Check out our linktree: https://linktr.ee/we.grwn?
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CHECK OUT THESE VIDEOS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT US:
Into - https://youtu.be/6u_x3y2CsCY
Meet Shaun's Husband: https://youtu.be/FmhXfGjKs18
Meet Moyo's Husband: https://youtu.be/QgjaWAvV3EY
Meet Jess' Husband: https://youtu.be/pQZ6ngaiwTw
We Grwn? Season 1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8ZgojHwixx2WDCkUGiPlLvL
We Grwn? Season 2 - Marriage Be Hard: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8YGjjg3gKf7e4yA775UDp8D

May 24, 2023 • 1h 5min
Relationships, Principles, High Standards, Negotiating, Life Change | We Got Roles? | #wegrwn | S2E9
Jess, Moyo, and Shaun discuss segments from the book "Marriage Be Hard" by Kevin Fredericks and Melissa Fredericks and talk about marital roles within their relationships.
Topics we discuss in this episode:
- How our martial roles have changed over time
- How we anticipate our martial roles changing in the future with different life events
- Decision fatigue
- Gian's masterclass
- Traditional vs Nontraditional martial roles
- Snowball effect
- Our roles in our friendship and how it's changed over time
As always, that this is a guided book discussion and not a review and we would love for you all to join the conversation!!
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Books, Shirts, and Merch! - https://eskayjohns.com/
Shirts - https://www.teepublic.com/user/shaunie-j-designs
Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/shop/ShaunieJShirts
Music - Ice Kenkey Beat - Nana Kwabena
Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/we.grwn?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
Check out our linktree: https://linktr.ee/we.grwn?
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CHECK OUT THESE VIDEOS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT US:
Into - https://youtu.be/6u_x3y2CsCY
Meet Shaun's Husband: https://youtu.be/FmhXfGjKs18
Meet Moyo's Husband: https://youtu.be/QgjaWAvV3EY
Meet Jess' Husband: https://youtu.be/pQZ6ngaiwTw
We Grwn? Season 1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8ZgojHwixx2WDCkUGiPlLvL
We Grwn? Season 2 - Marriage Be Hard: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8YGjjg3gKf7e4yA775UDp8D

May 10, 2023 • 46min
Envy, Insecurity, Rejection, Protective, Sus, Anxiety, Demanding | We Jealous? | #wegrwn | S2E8
Jess, Moyo, and Shaun discuss segments from the book "Marriage Be Hard" by Kevin Fredericks and Melissa Fredericks and talk about jealousy within their relationships.
Topics we discuss in this episode:
- What is jealousy?
- Jealousy in our marriage
- Sugar Mama, Sugar Daddy, Sponsors
- Boundaries
- Jealousy in our friendship
- FOMO leading to jealousy
- What is friendship?
- How to make friends in your 30s
As always, that this is a guided book discussion and not a review and we would love for you all to join the conversation!!
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Books, Shirts, and Merch! - https://eskayjohns.com/
Shirts - https://www.teepublic.com/user/shaunie-j-designs
Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/shop/ShaunieJShirts
Music - Ice Kenkey Beat - Nana Kwabena
Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/we.grwn?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
Check out our linktree: https://linktr.ee/we.grwn?
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CHECK OUT THESE VIDEOS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT US:
Into - https://youtu.be/6u_x3y2CsCY
Meet Shaun's Husband: https://youtu.be/FmhXfGjKs18
Meet Moyo's Husband: https://youtu.be/QgjaWAvV3EY
Meet Jess' Husband: https://youtu.be/pQZ6ngaiwTw
We Grwn? Season 1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8ZgojHwixx2WDCkUGiPlLvL
We Grwn? Season 2 - Marriage Be Hard: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8YGjjg3gKf7e4yA775UDp8D

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Apr 26, 2023 • 49min
Safe Secks, Fear, Guilt, Vulnerability, Consent, Flags, Masturbation | We Doing IT? | #wegrwn | S2E7
Jess, Moyo, and Shaun discuss segments from the book "Marriage Be Hard" by Kevin Fredericks and Melissa Fredericks and talk about sex within their relationships.
Topics we discuss in this episode:
- Having it all together in your 30s
- Idea of protection
- Normalizing sex
- Fear and Shame with sex
- Sex Positivity
- Masterbation, is it right or wrong
- Consent even in marriage
- Higher and lower desire
- Changes in sex life though different life changes (new medication, childbirth, age ect.)
- Educating our kids on sex
- Red, yellow and green lights
As always, that this is a guided book discussion and not a review and we would love for you all to join the conversation!!
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Books, Shirts, and Merch! - https://eskayjohns.com/
Shirts - https://www.teepublic.com/user/shaunie-j-designs
Etsy - https://www.etsy.com/shop/ShaunieJShirts
Music - Ice Kenkey Beat - Nana Kwabena
Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/we.grwn?igshid=ZDdkNTZiNTM=
Check out our linktree: https://linktr.ee/we.grwn?
±+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
CHECK OUT THESE VIDEOS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT US:
Into - https://youtu.be/6u_x3y2CsCY
Meet Shaun's Husband: https://youtu.be/FmhXfGjKs18
Meet Moyo's Husband: https://youtu.be/QgjaWAvV3EY
Meet Jess' Husband: https://youtu.be/pQZ6ngaiwTw
We Grwn? Season 1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8ZgojHwixx2WDCkUGiPlLvL
We Grwn? Season 2 - Marriage Be Hard: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCuH-byHwn8YGjjg3gKf7e4yA775UDp8D