

The Veterinary Project Podcast
The Veterinary Project Podcast
A show made by vets, featuring absolutely no pets!
The Veterinary Project Podcast sheds no hair, just light, on the areas of life that we believe the veterinary community should have a pulse on.
From enjoying the good days in the clinic to handling the tough ones - from personal improvement to professional development - from managing your money to investing in your future, we provide a veterinarian's view on a life well-lived.
Join us every Wednesday for new episodes. Stethoscopes allowed, headphones preferred!
The Veterinary Project Podcast sheds no hair, just light, on the areas of life that we believe the veterinary community should have a pulse on.
From enjoying the good days in the clinic to handling the tough ones - from personal improvement to professional development - from managing your money to investing in your future, we provide a veterinarian's view on a life well-lived.
Join us every Wednesday for new episodes. Stethoscopes allowed, headphones preferred!
Episodes
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Nov 23, 2022 • 57min
Money Matters: Recession Edition with Isaiah Douglass
**DISCLAIMER**
The views and opinions expressed in this podcast do not constitute financial advice and are intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. What you do with your money is your responsibility and you agree any strategies undertaken are done so at your own risk.
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Signs are pointing in the direction of a recession, so we thought it prudent to bring back a previous guest, Isaiah Douglass, to provide some insights on what veterinary professionals should consider doing in today's economy!
After working at a large national firm for a number of years, Isaiah left and founded a solo financial planning firm in 2018, pursuing a planning approach that was dedicated to identifying ways to grow the net worth of veterinarians. In the summer of 2020, he merged with another financial advisor and became a partner in Vincere Wealth Management.
Isaiah is a Certified Financial Planner™, Certified Exit Planner, and Fee-Only advisor, as well as the host of the weekly Veterinarian Success Podcast, which interviews and discusses topics related to the clinical, business, financial, and personal lives of veterinarians. He is deeply involved in speaking within veterinary medicine, having talks with students, on podcasts, in video interviews, and as a guest at the Veterinary Financial Summit conference.
In this episode, we cover:
The hot dog stand fable
Where's the line between economic reality and "the noise"
What Isaiah's hearing from veterinary clients from coast to coast
Choosing your response to recession conditions
Financial planning considerations for veterinary professionals in today's economy
Understanding bonds and the bond market
What else can you own other than stocks and bonds?
Portfolio reallocation and why it's important
Thoughts on interest rates
Final words from Isaiah
Thank you to Isaiah for coming back on the show! If you'd like to connect with Isaiah you can do so online at:
isaiah@vincerewealth.com
https://www.vincerewealth.com/
We're online! Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Want to join our community of like-minded Veterinary Professionals? Send an email to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Veterinary Project Facebook group.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com.
Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Nov 16, 2022 • 29min
Dropping the Ball, Casting a Vote, and Investing in Today's Marketplace
Dr. Michael Bugg is running solo this week with Dr. Jonathan Leicht on vacation, so he decided to take to the mic to drop some fire on 3 key topics that were worthy of illumination!
What topics might you ask? Well, here's the high-level notes:
DISCLAIMER: Investment and financial topics shared in this episode are not to be taken as financial or investing advice and are solely the opinions of the hosts of the show. Please consult your professional financial or investment planner for advice related to these subjects.
Dropping the ball (temporarily) by design
Casting a vote (in the right direction)
Prioritize your time this holiday season
Get a handle on how you behave at the extremes (of economic markets)
Thoughts on today's investment world including stocks, crypto currencies, and real estate investing
Exercise extreme due diligence
There will be excellent opportunities
Leverage works both ways - be mindful of the cost of borrowing
We're online! Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Want to join our community of like-minded Veterinary Professionals? Send an email to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Veterinary Project Facebook group.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com.
Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Nov 9, 2022 • 32min
Maximizing the Power of Mentors
Mentors come in many forms.
Whether connecting directly with them day-to-day (like a boss or manager) or never connecting them with all (someone you follow on social media), mentors play critical roles in shaping our thoughts and actions, while showing us the path we have yet to walk.
In this episode, Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht discuss the importance of mentors, types of mentor relationships, and how to maximize the mentor/mentee relationship to create win-wins for everyone involved.
We're online! Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Want to join our community of like-minded Veterinary Professionals? Send an email to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Veterinary Project Facebook group.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com.
Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Nov 2, 2022 • 26min
Tales of Change Management
If there's one thing that's for certain, it's that things change!
In this week's episode, Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg share practical frameworks and strategies, along with some current real-life situations, for how to manage change.
Topics covered include:
What prompts change?
Change out of desperation vs change from inspiration
Minimizing lag time between decision making and action
Reviewing the game tape to see what's working (or what's not)
It's normal for change to feel uncomfortable
Not making a decision is also a decision
How do you roll out change (personal example from Dr. Leicht)
Evaluating the results of change
Always be evolution
We're online! Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Want to join our community of like-minded Veterinary Professionals? Send an email to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Veterinary Project Facebook group.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com.
Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Oct 26, 2022 • 29min
So You Want to Be a Rock Star?
Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg continue on last week's conversation of Short Term vs. Long Term decision making, while shedding some light on the current economic state of North America.
With signs pointing towards recession (if not already being there), those who make smart decisions today will set themselves up for rock star status - personally and professionally - on the up-cycle in years ahead.
Topics covered include:
The #1 investment to make in economic downturns that is guaranteed a significant return
Work to learn vs. work to earn
Is it time to side-hustle?
Taking on debt vs. the no debt policy
Elevating from employee to business ownership
Return on lifestyle
We're online! Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Want to join our community of like-minded Veterinary Professionals? Send an email to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Veterinary Project Facebook group.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Oct 19, 2022 • 20min
Long Game vs. Short Game
Amidst Dr. Bugg's big news, we've got another episode for y'all this week on making decisions related to career and life!
Jonny and Mike bat around the challenge of making decisions from the perspective of long term vs. short term gains, and why having an eye to both the future, and the now, is important.
We're online! Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Want to join our community of like-minded Veterinary Professionals? Send an email to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Veterinary Project Facebook group.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Oct 12, 2022 • 47min
Having an Impact and Staying Curious with Dr. Megan Sprinkle
Dr. Megan Sprinkle is a board-eligible veterinary nutritionist who attended Auburn University for veterinary school and the University of Missouri for her clinical nutrition residency. She worked at Royal Canin US as a teacher and consultant for 5 years before recently joining BSM Partners, a consulting group helping businesses succeed especially in the pet industry. She's also the president-elect for the American Academy of Veterinary Nutrition.
Megan lives with her husband and Great Dane in Savannah, GA where one of her favorite things to do is to produce her podcast called Vet Life Reimagined.
In today's free-flowing conversation, Megan and our hosts dive into:
Who is Dr. Megan Sprinkle?!
How the early obsession with dolphins led to greater things...
The career challenges of specializing in veterinary nutrition
Building value, confidence, and having an impact
Why start (and what drives) the Vet Life Reimagined podcast?
Doing what you want versus "this is what I'm supposed to do"
Training your mindset
Megan's Impact Round!
Thank you to Megan for joining us on the show! For links to all that Megan is up to, including her podcast, check them out below:
BSM Partners: https://bsmpartners.net/
American Academy of Veterinary Nutrition (AAVN): https://aavnutrition.org/
Vet Life Reimagined YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf0CGUH0QmzarnRvisB6Lmg
Vet Life Reimagined on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vet-life-reimagined/id1617455211
We're online! Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Want to join our community of like-minded Veterinary Professionals? Send an email to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Veterinary Project Facebook group.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Oct 7, 2022 • 34min
Does Veterinary Medicine Have A Future?
Coming off a trip to the Veterinary Innovation Summit in Portland, Oregon, Dr. Jonathan Leicht discusses his experience, insights, and key takeaways around the future of veterinary medicine.
With Dr. Bugg leading the chat, Dr. Leicht shares:
Connecting with previous podcast guests in person
Reviewing the "gold standard" of veterinary medicine
Why the vet-centric model is no longer possible
The statistics for what consumers and spending on veterinary care
The concerning statistics behind professionals in the industry
What options do we have to make things better?
Increased utilization of veterinary techs
Telehealth opportunities
"Adapt or die!"
Who in the veterinary industry is TRULY self-aware
We're online! Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Want to join our community of like-minded Veterinary Professionals? Send an email to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Veterinary Project Facebook group.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Sep 28, 2022 • 36min
Exhaustion versus Execution: Balancing Getting Things Done with Rest & Recovery Practices
Following up on the previous couple weeks of conversations surrounding entrepreneurship with our co-hosts, as well as repeat guest Dr. Gary Marshall, Mike and Jonny toe the line between execution and getting things done at the expense of feeling exhausted.
Topics covered in this wide-ranging follow-up conversation include:
Developing clinic culture, including healthy boundaries balanced with professional expectations
Work life balance: real or not real?
Tips for ensuring rest and recovery time
Creating awareness around rest and recovery routines
Rest and recovery routines: what's working and what's not for Mike and Jonny
The vets set a wager...
We're online! Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Want to join our community of like-minded Veterinary Professionals? Send an email to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Veterinary Project Facebook group.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Sep 21, 2022 • 34min
Seasons of Life and Career with Dr. Gary Marshall
This week we're catching up with fan favorite and multiple time guest, Dr. Gary Marshall!
In this catch-up conversation with Dr. Marshall we cover:
The seasons of life - differences between where Gary is at and where Dr. Leicht is at
"Not being exhausted suits me" - dissecting Dr. Marshall's attention-grabbing social media post
Removing the weight of clinic ownership
Reduced hours, increased satisfaction, different lifestyle
Thoughts on where our industry is at relative to the start of 2022
What's upcoming for Gary
Connect with Gary on Instagram:
@it.might.get.weird
About Dr. Gary Marshall:
Dr. Gary Marshall is a multi-faceted veterinary professional with years of experience in the industry.
As a graduate of the Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine, Dr. Marshall founded Island Cats Veterinary Hospital on Mercer Island, Washington in 1996. He is a mentor/coach for VetX International representing North America where he connects with many students and new graduate veterinarians on a consistent basis. With his position as Adjunct Professor for Washington State University’s College of Veterinary Medicine, there are several veterinary students receiving part of their clinical training at Island Cats.
Dr. Marshall is a Past-President of the Washington State Veterinary Medical Association and still serves on the Board of Directors. He also has previously served as Vice-Chairman of the American Veterinary Medical Foundation and currently serves as one of two representatives from Washington State in the House of Delegates for the American Veterinary Medical Association.
In 2020, he was appointed to the Advisory Group of the Commission for a Diverse, Equitable, and Inclusive Veterinary Profession, a joint venture of the AVMA and AAVMC.
At the end of 2020, Dr. Marshall was elected to the Board of Directors of the Women's Veterinary Leadership Development Initiative. He has really enjoyed working with the women on the board and the experience has helped him refine what allyship can and should look like.
We're online! Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project.
If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.
Want to join our community of like-minded Veterinary Professionals? Send an email to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Veterinary Project Facebook group.
Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!