
The Clever Girls Know Podcast
The Clever Girls Know Podcast is brought to you by Clever Girl Finance, one of the largest personal finance media/education platforms for women in the U.S. that empowers women to ditch debt, save money and build real wealth in order to live life on their own terms!
Hosted by founder and CEO of Clever Girl Finance, Bola Sokunbi, the podcast shares open and honest conversations with real women at different stages of their financial and life journeys to inspire and motivate other women on their own journeys too!
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Latest episodes

Jan 10, 2023 • 48min
269: Recognizing And Working Through Workplace Issues: How Women Of Color Can Thrive
On today’s podcast episode, Keesa C. Schreane joins us to discuss how women of color can thrive in the workplace by recognizing and working through the key issues impacting them. Keesa C. Schreane shares her expertise in creating corporate culture, workplace engagement, and improving corporate ESG as a keynote speaker and workshop facilitator, and in media, appearing in outlets including Black Enterprise, Cheddar News, CNBC, CBS, Essence, FinTech TV, and Latina. She is the co-founder, co-executive producer, and host of London Stock Exchange Group's Sustainable Growth Podcast, discussing global ESG trends, regulations, and investment strategies with asset managers, asset owners, and c-suite sustainability and corporate officers. She is also the author of Gambling on Green: Uncovering the Balance among Revenues, Reputations, and ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) and Corporations Compassion Culture: Leading Your Business toward Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Keesa holds a B.A. from Salem College, an M.A. from New York University and received an Executive Education Certificate from The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania in Investment Strategies and Portfolio Management. WHAT KEESA DISCUSSED: - The historical events which have sown the seed of distrust between people of color towards organizations in the workforce. - How can we identify racism and microaggressions in the workplace and what key actions to take. - How we can improve the slow entry of women of color in emerging leadership roles. AND MUCH MORE HOW TO KEEP UP WITH KEESA: On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keesa-c-schreane-fsa-cams-6b45bbb/ Via her website: https://keesaschreane.com On Twitter: @keesacamille On IG: KeesaSchreane ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: https://clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: https://clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages/ ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: https://clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/clevergirlfinance

Jan 3, 2023 • 47min
268: How Working As A Collections Agent Helped Paco Understand The Emotions People Have About Money
On today’s podcast episode, Paco de Leon shares how working as a collection agent helped her understand the emotions people have about money. Paco is an author, illustrator, and musician. She is the founder of The Hell Yeah Group, a financial firm dedicated to inspiring creatives to engage with their personal and business finances, and Hell Yeah, Bookkeeping, a bookkeeping agency for creative businesses. Her career experiences in banking, business consulting, financial planning, and wealth management have informed her financial philosophies. She is a TED speaker and her work has been published or featured in The New York Times, Bloomberg, Vice, TIME, other publications, and on NPR. She lives in Los Angeles with her wife. WHAT PACO DISCUSSED: 1. How she got into working as a collection agent and what she learned about empathy and the deep emotions people have about money. 2. How the debt collection process works. 3. Key tips to navigate debt in collections. AND MUCH MORE CONSUMER AFFAIRS RESOURCE ON YOUR DEBT COLLECTION RIGHTS: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/are-there-laws-that-limit-what-debt-collectors-can-say-or-do-en-329/ HOW TO KEEP UP WITH PACO: Via her website: thehellyeahgroup.com On Instagram: instagram.com/thehellyeahgroup/ On Tiktok: tiktok.com/@moneyzaddypaco ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: https://clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: https://clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages/ ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: https://clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/clevergirlfinance

Dec 29, 2022 • 6min
2023 Goal Setting Session Replay Details + A Big Announcement!
Tune into our 2023 goal-setting session on YouTube! ✨ We covered: - A review of 2022 - Creating a plan for your finances, career, and business - Tips for maintaining your mindset and tackling imposter syndrome + MORE 2023 GOAL SETTING LINK ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/live/djCyHPWsFtA?feature=share DOWNLOAD the accompanying workbook here: https://www.clevergirlfinance.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Choosing-To-Prosper-Workbook.pdf Visit our new site CLEVER GIRL AUTHOR: https://clevergirlauthor.com ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: https://clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: https://clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages/ ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: https://clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/clevergirlfinance

Dec 20, 2022 • 2min
2023 Goal Setting Call Announcement + Thank You!
Wishing you and yours a happy holiday season and an incredible new year. Be sure to tune into our 2023 goal-setting session! We'll be covering: - A review of 2022 - Creating a plan for your finances, career, and business - Tips for maintaining your mindset and tackling imposter syndrome + MORE This is going to be a working session so come prepared with your pen and notebook! 📝 DOWNLOAD the accompanying workbook here: https://www.clevergirlfinance.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Choosing-To-Prosper-Workbook.pdf ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: https://clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: https://clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages/ ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: https://clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/clevergirlfinance

Dec 20, 2022 • 40min
267: Choosing To Prosper In Your Relationship With Your Partner
On today’s podcast episode, join Bola and Esther from team Clever Girl Finance as they discuss how you can choose to prosper in your relationship by, getting on the same page with your partner and acknowledging what works best for you both as a unit! WHAT BOLA & ESTHER DISCUSSED: - What liability means in a relationship - Why financial independence for women is important regardless of their partner's income - The qualities of a rich husband/partner AND MUCH MORE ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: https://clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: https://clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages/ ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: https://clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/clevergirlfinance

Dec 13, 2022 • 33min
266: How To Set “Life & Money” Boundaries With Friends And Family
Learn how to set boundaries with friends and family for better relationships, covering topics like time, money, and advice. Explore the importance of clear communication and protecting your well-being during the holiday season.

Dec 6, 2022 • 36min
265: Choosing To Prosper By Facing Your Crossroads
On today’s podcast episode, join Bola and Esther from team Clever Girl Finance as they discuss facing crossroads and key tips to navigate through them. WHAT BOLA & ESTHER DISCUSSED: - What it means to be at a crossroads and how to navigate the discomfort of being at one. - The best time to seek mentorship and guidance and how to apply the advice you get - Navigating from failure as you work through your crossroads AND MUCH MORE ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: https://clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: https://clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages/ ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: https://clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/clevergirlfinance

Nov 29, 2022 • 45min
264: How To Cultivate Healthy And Thriving Friendships In Your Life
On today’s podcast episode, Dawn Paul AKA "The Dr. Dawn" shares key tips to help cultivate healthy and thriving friendships in your life. Dawn Paul is an award-winning certified life coach, author, media personality, entrepreneur, and national public speaker. You can listen to her radio show, "It's No Judgment! Just Realness!" live every Thursday 7-10 PM CST on Raise The Praise 100 where she brings engaging and entertaining interviews and takes audience prayer requests and life love questions. Dawn is also the owner of Obsessed With Media®, a company providing clients with strategic marketing efforts to increase brand awareness for national and global expansion. Dawn is active in the community and serves Celebrating You, Inc. as a board member. WHAT DAWN DISCUSSED: - The benefits of cultivating healthy and thriving friendships in our lives as women. - Some of her personal challenging and positive experiences with friendships. - Ways we can set healthy boundaries to cultivate healthy and thriving friendships. - How to let go of or salvage a friendship. - How we can become the type of friend that we want. AND MUCH MORE HOW TO KEEP UP WITH DAWN: - On Instagram: https://instagram.com/thedrdawn - On Twitter: https://twitter.com/thedrdawn - On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedrdawn - On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/thedrdawn ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: https://clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: https://clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages/ ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: https://clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/clevergirlfinance

Nov 15, 2022 • 55min
263: How You Can Be A Conscious Spender While Building Wealth With Cindy Zuniga-Sanchez
On today’s podcast episode, Cindy Zuniga-Sanchez shares how you can be a conscious spender while building wealth! Cindy Zuniga-Sanchez, Esq. is a money coach, speaker, and the founder of Zero-Based Budget Coaching LLC. After graduating from law school in 2015 with $215,000 of debt, Cindy documented her debt payoff journey on social media, while sharing the personal finance knowledge that she was learning in a simple and relatable way. She has spoken to thousands and coached hundreds on budgeting, saving, debt payoff, investing, credit, building generational wealth, and more. She is committed to helping millennial women, particularly women of color, create a realistic money plan to achieve financial freedom WHAT CINDY DISCUSSED: - What inspired her to write her new book, Overcoming Debt, Achieving Financial Freedom: 8 Pillars To Build Wealth! - Her past relationship with money and spending - How consumerism in America has evolved, how it's impacting our ability to build wealth and key actions to take to avoid this issue - How to get clear on your value-based spending AND MUCH MORE HOW TO KEEP UP WITH CINDY: Via her website: https://www.zero-basedbudget.com On Instagram: @zerobasedbudget TikTok: @zerobasedbudget ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: https://clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: https://clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages/ ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: https://clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/clevergirlfinance

Nov 8, 2022 • 41min
262: What It's Like To Be A “First Generation” Investor With Mabel Nunez
On today’s podcast episode, Mabel Nunez shares her experience being the first investor in her family. Mabel is the founder and Chief Education Officer at Girls on The Money - a stock market investing education company for underrepresented individuals in the investing world. She is passionate about helping women feel more confident around money topics and empowering them to create wealth. Mabel teaches highly-rated courses centered on stock market investing and is also the author of two best-selling books on the subject. Mabels holds a Bachelor of Science and an MBA in Finance. However, most of what she's learned about the markets came from experience! She strongly believes investing is for everyone. No fancy degrees are necessary. WHAT MABEL DISCUSSED: - How she discovered stock marketing investing. - How she overcame her fear of investing. - Her biggest investing mistakes and wins. - Tips for women who are currently first-generation investors. - Why generational wealth matters AND MUCH MORE HOW TO KEEP UP WITH MABEL: - Her books: https://www.amazon.com/Stock-Market-Investing-Mini-Lessons-Beginners/dp/1530172381/ - Via her website: www.girlsonthemoney.com - On Instagram: Instagram.com/girlsonthemoney - Facebook Page: Facebook.com/girlsonthemoney - Facebook Group: Facebook.com/groups/girlsonthemoney ❤ Get the best-selling Clever Girl Finance Books: https://clevergirlfinance.com/books ❤ Get access to 30+ free courses, worksheets, savings challenges, and our favorite banking resources: https://clevergirlfinance.com/course-packages/ ❤ Read the Clever Girl Finance Blog: https://clevergirlfinance.com/blog ❤ Follow us on Instagram: http://instagram.com/clevergirlfinance