

People Property Place
Matthew Watts
Interviewing the leaders shaping the real estate investment management industry. Hosted by Matthew Watts, Founder of Rockbourne.
The central intention of this podcast is to share the stories, views, opinions, and career journeys of the movers, shakers, innovators, and leaders in the real estate investment management industry.
Whether you are an existing real estate professional, aspiring to break into the space, or just want to know more about this fascinating sector this podcast is for you.
New episodes of The People Property Place Podcast will be released regularly and you will be able to find them for free on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or any App that supports podcasts.
Oh, and one last thing - in every episode, I will be asking each guest who are the People, what Property, and which Place they would be looking to invest, should they have £500m at their disposal.
www.rockbourne.com
The central intention of this podcast is to share the stories, views, opinions, and career journeys of the movers, shakers, innovators, and leaders in the real estate investment management industry.
Whether you are an existing real estate professional, aspiring to break into the space, or just want to know more about this fascinating sector this podcast is for you.
New episodes of The People Property Place Podcast will be released regularly and you will be able to find them for free on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or any App that supports podcasts.
Oh, and one last thing - in every episode, I will be asking each guest who are the People, what Property, and which Place they would be looking to invest, should they have £500m at their disposal.
www.rockbourne.com
Episodes
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Feb 23, 2023 • 54min
#15 Ekaterina Avdonina, CEO & Co-Founder at Mirastar Real Estate Investment Management Limited
Ekaterina set the business up alongside Anthony Butler in 2019 with a vision to create a new pan-European business dedicated to the development, investment, and management of logistics assets across key metropolitan areas in Europe. The team has grown rapidly to over 34 people, across 5 European offices with £bn's AUM. In 2018 Biz now profiled Ekaterina in their top 51 most influential women in UK real estate, calling her The Queen of Sheds…. I sat down with Ekaterina to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How she got into real estate Managing risk Setting up a business and having a baby at the same time! Building local European teams 6ESG In sheds Overview of the industrial / logistics market currently Secret to building a winning team Vision for the next few years Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Ekaterina would invest should she have £500m of equity at her disposal Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify and Apple from Thursday this week. People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast?

Feb 16, 2023 • 1h 16min
#14 Zac Goodman, Founder of TSP
TSP is a vertically integrated Real Estate Investment Company with an award-winning property management capability. Their mission is to build an investment business that remains relevant to its time and place. One that chooses rehabilitation over ruin. Partnerships over rivalries. Responsibility over excuses. Zac studied Politics at Nottingham University before joining Goldman Sachs as a Graduate. Since leaving Goldman he has gone on to set up multiple real estate ventures. I sat down with Zac to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate Family > work View on the market Becoming B-Corp Lessons in building a team Vision for the future Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Zac would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify and Apple from Thursday this week. People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne

Feb 9, 2023 • 59min
#13 Jon Strang, Managing Director of Blackbrook Capital
Blackbrook Capital is a specialist real estate investment firm focusing on future-proof supply chain infrastructure across Europe. The team behind Blackbrook has a combined real estate investment track record of deploying over 20 billion Euros in more than 20 countries across Europe and North America. Jon Strang joined Blackbrook Capital in September 2020 from the logistics investor Clarion Gramercy, where he was a Vice President. Prior to this, he was an Investment Banking Analyst at JP Morgan having graduated from Oxford University with an MEng in Engineering Science. I sat down with Jon to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into real estate Triple Net Lease investing View on the market Building a high-performing team Vision for the future ...oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Jon would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify and Apple from Thursday this week. People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne

Feb 2, 2023 • 48min
#12 James Farmer, Co-Founder of Boreal Investment Management
Headquartered in London, Boreal is an opportunity driven investment manager with a current focus on logistics and light-industrial properties across Europe. Set up in 2022, it is led by its founding partners former Blackstone, TPG and Europa execs who secured €1bn of equity from Canadian pension giant Cadillac Fairview, with a plan to create a €3bn pan European portfolio. I sat down with James to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How he got into the Real Estate industry A key skill needed to get into real estate private equity Setting up Boreal Going from 0-€700m AUM in 1 year Assembling a high performing team Vision for the future Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place James would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify and Apple from Thursday this week. People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne

Jan 26, 2023 • 1h 3min
#11 Nick Blackburn, Co-Founder & Partner of Blue Current Capital
Blue Current Capital is an ESG-focused real estate investor, developer, and operator enabling and accelerating the electrification of commercial fleets across the UK and Continental Europe. I sat down with Nick to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following: How he got into Real EstateWorking at a GP, LP and then setting up his own business Meeting his Co-Founder Max Botschen How he came to settling on EV Charging Hubs The importance of relationships in Real Estate Vision & Mission Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Nick would invest should he have £500m of equity at his disposal. Catch the full episode which will be live on Spotify and Apple from Thursday this week. People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne Who do you want to see on the Podcast? #peoplepropertyplacepodcast #realestate #podcast #bluecurrentcapital #property

Jan 19, 2023 • 31min
#10 Audrey Klein, Board Member SFO Capital Partners & Planet Smart City
Audrey Klein has 25 years of global real estate experience – she has run her own business, held positions at Blackstone, Cromwell Property Group, Kennedy Wilson where she has raised £bn's of equity. Passionate about ESG and impact investing she is a UK founding member of WIRE - an organization dedicated to providing a networking venue for women in the private equity real estate business. Audrey currently serves on the board at SFO Capital Partners and Planet Smart City and the Corporate Board for Great Ormond Street hospital where she has served for the last 11 years. We sat down for a time-pressured, but very enjoyable conversation where we discussed the following: How she got into real estate What it takes to be a capital raiser What makes a great LP / GP relationship How to raise capital in uncertain times Female representation at the top table Catch the full episode live now on Spotify and Apple People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne #peoplepropertyplacepodcast #realestate #podcast

Jan 12, 2023 • 47min
#9 Bianca Tristao, Co-founder Coleford Capital
Coleford Capital is a UK & European focused real estate investment and asset management business dedicated to building and managing bespoke portfolios that meet our clients' requirements, whilst guided by our experience, knowledge and insight of the real estate market. Before launching Coleford Capital, Bianca Tristao was a Senior Investment Manager at a European real estate Asset Manager where she was responsible for sourcing, underwriting and executing UK and European investment opportunities. Prior to this Bianca worked for Knight Frank. Bianca has worked across all major sectors in property on both the consulting and client sides, with a particular focus on transaction and asset management. I sat down with Bianca to discuss a broad range of subjects which covered some of the following topics: How she got into the Real Estate industry How your role changes from being an Investment Analyst - Investment Manager Setting up Coleford Capital First Deal Vision for the future Oh and one last question - who are the People, what Property, and in which Place Bianca would invest should she have £500m of equity at her disposal. Catch the full episode live now on Spotify and Apple People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne #peoplepropertyplacepodcast #realestate #podcast #colefordcapital

Nov 10, 2022 • 26min
#8 Lucy Gordon, Director Farley Cove
Lucy is the Founder of Farley Cove, a London-based Real Estate consultancy offering bespoke financial modelling expertise, debt advisory and transaction assistance. Having started her property career in 2012 working at Mountgrange Investment Management (later to become Clearbell Capital) Lucy specialises in financial modelling, acquisitions, and debt financing, including creating and maintaining excellent banking relationships. Since launching Farley Cove, Lucy has helped start-ups, established investors, and M&A specialists create robust financial forecasts and provided invaluable support throughout the investment cycle.

Nov 10, 2022 • 55min
#7 George Aberdeen, Co-Founder Kinrise
George is focused on investment management, operations and asset management at Kinrise. George has worked in UK commercial real estate for 17 years, starting his career at Knight Frank Investment Management and then became an Investment Director of FORE Partnership. He is also President of Field Lane charity, which has been helping vulnerable people since 1841. Kinrise is an award-winning investment company (est. 2015) focused on reimagining and restoring iconic buildings to their former glory. Our spaces are purposed to host freelancers in need of a desk for the day through to global companies needing a home for a decade

Nov 10, 2022 • 48min
#6 Chloe Prince, Asset Manager Catella APAM
Chloe is an Asset Manager at Catella APAM where she is responsible for driving value across a designated real estate portfolio. Chloe is also a member of the NextGen Committee British Council for Officesand is a passionate Reverse Mentorship and DE&I Advocate. APAM is one of a select few asset and investment managers in the UK that can provide solutions for every stage of the real estate cycle, across a diverse range of sectors. Over the last decade, APAM has delivered successful real estate solutions for £4B worth of real estate across the UK and Ireland, working with global institutional and private investors, as well as local authorities and stakeholders.


