
SHIFT
Hosted by Jennifer Strong, SHIFT is a weekly podcast taking a closer look at the far-reaching impact of automation on our daily lives.From policy to process, we seek to understand how lives are changing alongside rapid breakthroughs in frontier technologies and artificial intelligence. Join us as we navigate the challenges and opportunities presented by this reshaped reality.
Latest episodes

Dec 6, 2023 • 16min
Oral History: Educating Between the Lines
In this third installment of our oral history project we meet a man working to build edtech programs in under-resourced languages for children without access to traditional schooling. His company, Taleemabad, was awarded the WISE award in 2021 and has been recognized by Nobel Laureate Malala Yousafzai and the late Queen Elizabeth.
We Meet:
Haroon Yasin, the Co-founder & CEO of Taleemabad
Credits:
SHIFT is produced by Jennifer Strong and Anthony Green, with help from Emma Cillekens. It’s mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski.

Nov 29, 2023 • 23min
Live: Delivering Education During Crisis
Potentially a quarter billion children worldwide lack access to an education. Advances in education tech and AI programs for learning can help students who have access to tools and internet. This episode, we bring you a conversation with members of the International Rescue Committee, an aid group developing tailored learning experiences for children in crisis. It was taped before a live audience at Web Summit, Europe’s largest tech conference, in Lisbon, Portugal.
We Meet:
Atish Gonsalves, Global Lead for Research & Innovation in Education, International Rescue Committee (IRC)
Morena Baccarin, Actor, IRC Ambassador
Sara Wayne Callies, Actor, IRC Ambassador
Credits:
SHIFT is produced by Jennifer Strong and Anthony Green, with help from Emma Cillekens. It’s mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski.

Nov 23, 2023 • 22min
Oral History: Symbolic AI is Explainable
In this second installment of our oral history project we meet a man trying to solve AI’s black box problem with symbolic AI, a subfield that communicates how decisions are made.
We Meet:
Casper Wilstrup, the Founder & CEO of Abzu
Credits:
SHIFT is produced by Jennifer Strong and Anthony Green, with help from Emma Cillekens. It’s mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski.

Nov 15, 2023 • 37min
Live: Advancing Digital Equity for Black Communities
In an increasingly digital world, ensuring equitable access to broadband and digital tools has become a pressing societal issue—particularly within the Black community. This episode, a conversation moderated by our show’s co-creator and senior producer, Anthony Green. It was taped in front of a live audience at The Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies in Washington, DC.
We Meet:
Dr. Nicol Turner Lee, director of the Center for Technology Innovation at Brookings, and also serves as Co-Editor-In-Chief of TechTank
Sean Mickens, Associate Vice President, External Affairs, Comcast
Dr. Jon Gant, director, Department of Commerce, NTIA, Office of Minority Broadband Initiatives
Justice Ukadike, Manager, Senior Analyst, U.S. Government Affairs & Public Policy, Google
Credits:
SHIFT is produced by Jennifer Strong and Anthony Green, with help from Emma Cillekens. It’s mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski.
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Nov 8, 2023 • 48min
Live: Understanding AI Governance
Privacy officers from major tech companies discuss AI governance including building safe AI systems, protecting privacy, and the importance of transparent governance systems. They explore uncertainty in AI governance, collaboration for future success, regulations surrounding AI deployment, and the evolving field of AI governance within their respective companies.

Nov 2, 2023 • 22min
Unpacking the Executive Order on AI
We explore what impact the U.S. President's executive order on artificial intelligence might have as governments across the globe move to regulate AI.
We Meet:
Khari Johnson, senior writer, Wired
Suresh Venkatasubramanian, director of the Center for Technological Responsibility, Reimagination, and Redesign with the Data Science Institute at Brown University
Credits:
SHIFT is produced by Jennifer Strong, Anthony Green and Emma Cillekens. It’s mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski.

Nov 1, 2023 • 19min
Manufacturing in Space
The hardest part of making something in space right now might just be getting it back to Earth. A conversation with Quartz’s Tim Fernholz about the opportunities and challenges of making goods in orbit.

Oct 26, 2023 • 13min
Oral History: Airbnb's Party Pooper
In the first installment of our oral history project we meet the woman overseeing Airbnb's efforts to build an anti-party AI system to try to combat fraud and stop bad actors from using the company’s platform.
We Meet: Naba Banerjee, head of trust and safety at Airbnb
Credits: SHIFT is produced by Jennifer Strong and Anthony Green, with help from Emma Cillekens. It’s mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski.

Oct 25, 2023 • 21min
Measuring AI's Transparency
Stanford University measured the transparency of top AI foundation models–all failed. The researchers are urging companies to reveal more information such as the data and human labor used to train these models.
We Meet: Karen Hao, contributing writer at The Atlantic
Credits: SHIFT is produced by Jennifer Strong and Anthony Green, with help from Emma Cillekens. It’s mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski.

Oct 18, 2023 • 24min
Live: AI Ethics and Geopolitics
We take you to the heart of New York City’s manufacturing center, the Brooklyn Navy Yard, for a conversation about AI ethics and geopolitics. It’s taped in front of a live audience of students and manufacturing experts at a factory owned by Nanotronics - a company that manufactures hardware and software capable of working on a nanometer scale - during Manufacturing Week.
We Meet:
John Paul Farmer, Chief Innovation Officer & President, WeLink Cities
Anwaar AlMahmeed, Strategic Advisor, Republic MENA
Geoffrey Levene, Director Worldwide AI Initiatives and Global Public Sector, Head of Climate Action, Defense and Space, NVIDIA
Credits:
The show is produced by Jennifer Strong and Anthony Green with help from Emma Cillekens. The theme music was composed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski.