

SHIFT
Jennifer Strong
Hosted by Jennifer Strong, SHIFT is a weekly podcast taking a closer look at the far-reaching impact of automation on our daily lives.From policy to process, we seek to understand how lives are changing alongside rapid breakthroughs in frontier technologies and artificial intelligence. Join us as we navigate the challenges and opportunities presented by this reshaped reality.
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Apr 3, 2024 • 14min
People Think AI Should Credit its Sources
As more people try ChatGPT and other AI tools, our thoughts about what's fair or what to trust with generative AI are evolving. The Pew Research Center offers some of the most comprehensive surveys of American public opinion and has been studying these questions.
We Meet:
Alec Tyson, Associate Director at Pew Research Center
Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Anthony Green.

Mar 27, 2024 • 14min
Building Trustworthy AI
The current AI ecosystem has plenty in common with the early days of the web. So, what have we learned?
We Meet:
Mark Surman, President of Mozilla
Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Anthony Green.

Mar 20, 2024 • 16min
Our Declining Trust in AI
Our trust in people, government, science and even our trust in technology—we have a lot less trust in all of it than we used to. Our lack of trust might even turn out to be the most bi-partisan thing about this US election cycle, especially our lack of trust in AI.
We Meet:
Richard Edelman, the president and chief executive officer of the public relations company Edelman
Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Anthony Green.

Mar 13, 2024 • 31min
Live: Digital Citizens or Digital Subjects?
Frank McCourt is an American executive and philanthropist. He’s also the author of a new book about the internet, called “Our Biggest Fight: Reclaiming Liberty, Humanity, and Dignity in the Digital Age”. We talk to him about that fight before a live audience in New York City at a gathering held by the responsible technology non-profit, All Tech Is Human.
We Meet:
Frank H. McCourt, Jr., civic entrepreneur and executive chairman of McCourt Global, founder and executive chairman of Project Liberty
Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Anthony Green.

Mar 6, 2024 • 20min
Live: Streamlining the Music Industry
Join EngineEars founder Derek "MixedByAli" Ali and EMPIRE founder Ghazi Shami as they deep dive into the convergence of innovation and artistry, discuss the latest trends in the music industry, and explore how tech is revolutionizing the creation and distribution of music around the world.
We Meet:
Derek Ali, EngineEars, Founder and CEO
Ghazi Shami, EMPIRE, Founder & CEO
Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Anthony Green.

Feb 28, 2024 • 25min
Future of the Internet, Part Two
In this second of a two-part series, we meet people fighting to build an open internet.
We Meet:
Digital Medusa Founder Farzaneh Badiei
Internet Society President & CEO Andrew Sullivan
Vivaldi CEO Jon Von Tetzchner
ICANN Interim President & CEO Sally Costerton
Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong and Emma Cillekens, and it was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Anthony Green.

Feb 21, 2024 • 20min
Future of the Internet, Part One
The infrastructure underpinning the internet is increasingly under threat, but how many of us stop to consider how or why the internet works?
We Meet:
Internet Society President & CEO Andrew Sullivan
ICANN Interim President & CEO Sally Costerton
Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong and Emma Cillekens, and it was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Anthony Green.

Feb 14, 2024 • 26min
The New Luddites
Activists are fighting back against generative AI and reclaiming a misunderstood label in the process, says Brian Merchant in a new piece for The Atlantic.
We Meet:
Tech Journalist & Author Brian Merchant
Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong and Emma Cillekens, and it was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Anthony Green.

Feb 7, 2024 • 17min
Oral History: Generating Tax Advice
Software can make it easier for people to file their own taxes, but what if you have a question? Would you trust generative AI to give you the answer?
We Meet:
H&R Block VP of Technology Aditya Thadani
Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong and Emma Cillekens, and it was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Anthony Green.

Jan 31, 2024 • 21min
Live: What’s Your Digital Footprint?
An analysis by Consumer Reports suggests that every person on Facebook is being monitored by thousands of companies, but new tools and laws are starting to make it easier for people to take back their privacy.
This episode was recorded in New York City at an event hosted by the responsible tech nonprofit All Tech Is Human.
We Meet:
Consumer Reports R&D Director Ginny Fahs
New York Times Contributing Opinion Writer & Investigative Journalist Julia Angwin
Block Party Founder & CEO Tracy Chou
Credits:
This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong and Emma Cillekens. The on-site recording engineer was Josh Chapdelaine. SHIFT is mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art direction by Anthony Green. The Founder and President of All Tech is Human is David Ryan Polgar.