
Leaders Coaching Leaders
For current and aspiring education leaders, this podcast covers evidence-based approaches for tackling immediate needs to impact student learning. Every week Peter DeWitt and our guests get together to share ideas, put research into practice, discuss what's working and what's not in equity, SEL, burnout, learning recovery, and much more to help you ensure every student is learning not by chance, but by design.
Latest episodes

Apr 22, 2024 • 33min
Meaningful Multlingual Assessment
With her emphasis on relationship building as the backdrop for linguistically and culturally sustainable assessment, the bestselling author Margo Gottlieb tells educators that we can do better when it comes to how we assess multilingual learners. In this episode she discusses her latest edition of Assessing Multilingual Learners, and she offers educators welcoming and encouraging ways to support multilingual learners to succeed in school and beyond. How? By authentically integrating the needs of multilingual students as core to the assessment as opposed to just adding on components that may fail to meet their needs. To do this, Gottlieb suggests educators use asset-based language, student centered activities, relevant classroom assessments and more.Let us know what you think!

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Apr 15, 2024 • 38min
How Educators Can Find Their Roots
Politics, learning loss and a tsunami of initiatives can get in the way of what matters most in education: strategies aligned to key goals, systems for high quality professional learning and, most of all, creating a culture where all are seen and heard. Lionel Allen, hand picked by Arnie Duncan to lead the nation’s first turnaround school, is committed to helping leaders and teachers remember their “why.” In this episode, he passionately discusses a vision for our schools that centers students and values the adults charged to educate them. As he outlines in his new book Lead With CARE, affirmation, responsiveness, relationships and empowerment are all integral to designing the schools that students deserve. Let us know what you think!

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Nov 6, 2023 • 45min
The Age of Identity: Who Do Our Kids Think They Are? with Dennis Shirley and Andrew Hargreaves
Educational experts Andrew Hargreaves and Dennis Shirley discuss the complexities of identity in education. They emphasize the importance of understanding and supporting diverse identities in educational settings, including marginalized groups like racial, indigenous, LGBTQ, and students with disabilities. The podcast delves into the impact of identity on inclusion, achievement, and social emotional learning, highlighting the need for humanizing education and allowing students to articulate their identities for enhanced engagement and academic performance.

Oct 30, 2023 • 46min
Leading for All with Jennifer Spencer-iiams
Too many schools still rely on deeply ingrained, segregated practices that fail to serve all students. Author of the book Leading for All and district leader Jennifer Spencer-iiams would like to change this. In this episode she shares lessons learned from spending nearly a decade building a school district where all students are served in their neighborhood school and in classrooms with their general education peers. Hear how to get better academic outcomes for all students, not just those identified with disabilities, by promoting self-efficacy, improving social and emotional health, and consistently implementing research-based instructional strategies. Let us know what you think!

Oct 23, 2023 • 44min
How to Deepen Collaboration with Your Teams with Mike Nelson
One does not often pair unreasonable and irrational with care and hospitality, but superstar superintendent Mike Nelson does. As he sees it, to get at the kind of collaboration most school leaders crave requires them go far deeper into human relations than usual. In this episode, he defines what he calls human interconnectedness and provides specific examples of what it looks like and how to get there. Topics include how to make your staff feel seen and heard every day, the benefits of taking the time to build strong connections and tips for fully immersing yourself in the daily experiences of those you lead. Let us know what you think!

Oct 16, 2023 • 37min
Happy Kids Don't Punch You in the Face with Ben Springer
When there’s a nuclear meltdown happening with a student in your school, you don’t have a second to think. Author and consultant Ben Springer, shares the framework from his bestselling book Happy Kids Don’t Punch You in the Face, to discuss what to do in the heat of the moment, and how you can decrease the chances of incidents happening in the first place. His approach is a field-tested, integrating principles of behavioral intervention with the best practices of positive psychology—a fresh, effective response that respects the tough realities facing today’s educators.Let us know what you think!

Oct 9, 2023 • 38min
The Rise and Fall of Balanced Literacy with Pamela Snow
Renowned speech-language pathologist and psychologist, Pamela Snow, discusses the rise and fall of balanced literacy and the importance of teaching essential reading skills. She emphasizes education as a public health intervention and the need for data-driven changes in teaching practices. The podcast also highlights the importance of bipartisan support and professional development in education, while emphasizing the value of unfamiliar concepts and treating teachers as professionals.

Oct 2, 2023 • 32min
Your First 90 Days as a School Leader with Daniel Bauer
Have you ever started your school year as a principal feeling overwhelmed and pulled in a million directions? It’s a common experience and one not addressed explicitly in a many training programs. This episode’s guest, Daniel Bauer, is on to talk about a practical solution: creating the perfect principal entry plan. You will hear him discuss his framework that promises big payoffs for just a few hours of focused work. If you believe crystal clear clarity on your goals is the most efficient way to support your team and sustain continuous improvement, hit play.Let us know what you think!

Sep 25, 2023 • 32min
Serving Educational Equity with Sonya Murray and Gwendolyn Turner
Planning for equitable accelerated learning is analogous to preparing a meal. Similar to a chef selecting the menu, gathering ingredients, and planning the occasion, educators choose aligned curricula to prioritize learning to help students internalize instruction. Straight from their new book Serving Educational Equity, Sonya Murray and Gwendolyn Turner share with listeners how to distinguish acceleration from remediation, establish effective foundational instruction, expand student engagement for all students, and use student excellence as the driver for full equity. Let us know what you think!

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Sep 18, 2023 • 40min
Why Educational Strategies and Student Outcomes are Not in Sync with Lyle Kirtman
Author and consultant Lyle Kirtman discusses the importance of aligning educational strategies with student outcomes to combat burnout in schools. He provides tips on talking to data-averse teachers, making decisions based on guiding questions, and pushing back against counterproductive mandates.