
The DSR Network
This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.If you are enjoying this podcast, please consider becoming a member by visiting thedsrnetwork.com.
Latest episodes

Mar 20, 2025 • 48min
Three Bullets to the Heart of the Constitution
Dahlia Lithwick, a Slate journalist and Supreme Court expert, joins Norm Ornstein and David Rothkopf to dissect America's legal turmoil. They dive into whether we're in a constitutional crisis and explore how recent Supreme Court decisions are impacting the balance of power. The conversation highlights the role of Justices Roberts and Boasberg in today's authoritarian climate, and critiques the influence of corporations on democracy. They also discuss the disconnect between voters and political leaders, urging active citizen engagement to safeguard democratic values.

Mar 20, 2025 • 31min
AI, Energy and Climate: Dan Loehr: Can LLM’s Help in the Fight Against Climate Change?
In this discussion, Georgetown Professor Dan Loehr, an expert in AI and natural language processing, tackles the innovative ways large language models (LLMs) can combat climate change. He highlights their potential in summarizing complex scientific data, enhancing climate literacy, and promoting cleaner technologies. However, Loehr also warns about the biases and misinformation risks associated with LLMs. The conversation sparks insights into how AI can transform climate action while navigating the associated challenges.

Mar 20, 2025 • 26min
The DSR Daily for March 20: Trump to Shut Down Department of Education
Trump's plan to dismantle the Department of Education is raising concerns about educational standards and job security for teachers. The detention of a Georgetown University academic over visa violations sparks debate on immigration policies and free speech. The podcast also tackles the controversial militarization of the New Mexico border and political ramifications surrounding the future of Amtrak amid discussions of privatization. Listeners are urged to reflect on the implications of these actions for society.

Mar 20, 2025 • 26min
The Daily Blast: Trump’s Fury at Canada Boils Over on Fox—and Polls Now Show a Backlash
It’s growing harder to shrug off President Trump’s deranged threats toward Canada. In a new Fox News interview, Trump snarled angrily that Canada is “meant” to be a 51st state, explicitly speaking the language of imperialism. Meanwhile, Trump is adopting a very credulous line toward Vladimir Putin in the Russia-Ukraine peace talks. This comes as a surprising new poll shows that American opinion is shifting against a soft line on Russia, even as other polling shows public rejection of Trump’s anti-Canada stance. We talked to The Bulwark’s William Saletan, who has a good piece arguing that Trump’s views of Canada and Ukraine are connected. He explains how Trump is now adopting the same view of Canada that Putin has of Ukraine, and argues that the public may be turning against Trump on both fronts. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 19, 2025 • 47min
Crisis Counseling with DSR
Wow, things are not good. As the Trump administration and DOGE continue their crackdown, we have to ask: is this finally a constitutional crisis? Rosa Brooks and Kori Schake join David Rothkopf to break down the DOGE attempt to shut down USIP and why our country’s future is looking darker. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 19, 2025 • 16min
The DSR Daily for March 19: Judge Rules Against USAID Shutdown
On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we discuss a judge ruling against Elon Musk and DOGE, Chief Justice Roberts pushing back against Trump and MAGA, a lift on the ban on ‘segregated facilities,’ and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 19, 2025 • 27min
The Daily Blast: Fox Anchor Suddenly Panics About Trump Economy as Brutal New Poll Hits
Fox News’s Maria Bartiromo has suddenly emerged as a leading voice sounding loud alarms about President Trump’s tariffs and the devastating impact they could have on the economy—even though she works for a MAGA propaganda network. On Tuesday, Bartiromo lost patience with a Trump official, and walked through all the reasons why business leaders are unhappy with Trump’s tariff threats. Other Fox personalities have followed suit. Meanwhile, a new NBC poll finds terrible numbers for Trump on the economy. Yet he’s forging ahead with his tariffs and rarely bothers talking about the economy anymore. We talked to Media Matters’ Matt Gertz, a close observer of Fox coverage, about the deeper reasons for Fox’s discontent—and why it’s all a sign that Trump’s project is more fragile than you might think. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 18, 2025 • 15min
The DSR Daily for March 18: Judge Challenges Admin Over Deportations
On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we break down a judge challenging the administration’s recent deportation flights, Israeli strikes killing hundreds in Gaza, a midwife’s arrest for providing abortions in Texas, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 18, 2025 • 26min
The Daily Blast: “Chilling”: Trump Press Sec Hints Darkly at More Lawlessness to Come
President Trump’s lawlessness is escalating. First he angrily tweeted that his predecessor’s pardons of January 6 committee members are invalid, while threatening to prosecute them. Meanwhile, the Trump administration appears to have violated a court order in deporting some Venezuelans. And his border czar flatly declared that the administration is set to ignore what judges say. At Monday’s briefing, press secretary Karoline Leavitt spun madly about all this, but her lack of clarity strongly hinted that Trump is on the precipice of a new level of lawbreaking. We talked to legal scholar Matthew Seligman, a skilled decoder of complicated legal messes. He explains why Trump’s latest moves are “chilling”—and why Leavitt’s ambiguity is only cause to anticipate more lawlessness, not less.Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 17, 2025 • 40min
AI, Energy and Climate: Bill Brown: Are Data Centers the Killer App for Clean Tech?
Bill Brown started two clean tech unicorns -- private companies worth more than $1 billion. Today he thinks data centers could be the "killer app" for cleantech, driving demand for clean energy. He also believes that managing data centers like power plants can introduce big new efficiencies. Join host David Sandalow as he and Brown discuss these and other ideas at the intersection of data centers and clean tech. AI, Energy and Climate is a special series from the DSR Network sponsored by NEDO and hosted by David Sandalow, Inaugural Fellow at Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy.AI for Climate Change Mitigation Roadmap -- https://www.icef.go.jp/roadmap and transitiondigital.org/ai-climate-roadmap. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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