
The Fit2Fat2Fit Experience
The Fit2Fat2Fit Experience Podcast features Drew and Lynn Manning of www.fit2fat2fit.com and www.2fitathome.com. They bring their unique perspective on health and fitness to the podcasting world. Drew gained international media attention from his journey of gaining and losing 75 lbs. on purpose by blogging and writing a NY Times Best Selling book about it (Fit2Fat2Fit) and his wife, Lynn, is a women's fitness specialist, but is also an admitted "foodie". With this unique balance they dive into why diets don't work. People lose weight only to gain it back. Why does it seem so hard? Because focusing on just nutrition and exercise is missing the mark. Overall health and wellness is key to long-term success and often our industry neglects this. They answer your questions and interview leaders in the industry to share secrets about real transformation and long term success. Change comes from the inside out so join us on this journey!
Latest episodes

Apr 23, 2019 • 57min
EP192: You Don’t Get to Be Larger Than Life By Being Comfortable with Bruce Pitcher
What is the difference between people who lose weight and keep it off versus those who regain the weight just a few months later? The difference in those who keep the weight off is they keep the promises they make to themselves. They live in integrity with what they want from life. Case in point, today’s returning guest Bruce Pitcher from Extreme Weight Loss Season 4, episode 4. Bruce transformed his physical and emotional life after being a guest on the show. He wrote his new book, Larger Than Life to share his blessings with others. He is a real-life example of what you believe you can do internally you can achieve externally. Drew’s new book Complete Keto: A Guide for Transforming Your Body and Your Mind for Life is now available! Visit CompleteKeto.fit2fat2fit.com to get your copy now. Get the CK30 video series as a bonus when ordering with this link. If you like the podcast subscribe & review it on iTunes | Stitcher. Key Takeaways: [8:22] Bruce continued an over-active lifestyle even after he suffered a concussion during exercise. [12:59] The two sides of faith in Utah. [16:19] Bruce shares his personal journey of triumphing in spite of the emotional pain inflicted by his father. [21:23] It’s ok to live the life you want to live with integrity, now! [32:46] How writing Larger Than Life was an opportunity to share his blessings with the world. [40:04] How Bruce stays in integrity and motivated when workouts get boring or tough. [49:47] Bruce shares his message so others know they are not alone. Sponsors: Redmond Real Salt — An ancient seabed in Utah is the source for this natural, undiluted real salt with all the essential trace minerals left intact. Keto is better with Real Salt. Let’s Get Checked — At home hormone tests, no doctor appointment needed. The test kit comes with easy to follow instructions and a prepaid return envelope for fast online results. Use the link to get 15% off any test. Dry Farm Wines — You can have alcohol on the ketogenic diet. Use this link for a bottle of wine for $.01 with any order Complete Wellness Supplements — Shop Drew’s hand-formulated, pre-workout greens, Keto Meal with grass-fed collagen and BHB’s for mental clarity and a brain boost. Mentioned in This Episode: Larger Than Life by Bruce Pitcher and Rachel Sommer @brucepitcher on Twitter @brucepitcher on Instagram ChampWithinAZ@gmail.com Fit2Fat2Fit Take the Fit2Fat2Fit Podcast Listener Survey Fit2Fat2Fit on Facebook Fit2Fat2Fit Book Complete Keto Book Drew on Social Media: @fit2fat2fit Email Drew: Drew@fit2fat2fit.com

Apr 16, 2019 • 56min
EP191: Keto Support for Women and Girls with Lauren and Mary of Fearless Keto
In the 1970s 4.2 million Americans were diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and today there are 30 million people being treated for the disease. It’s obvious that something in the American diet changed. The amount of sugars being added to foods in addition to a food pyramid designed to sell agricultural products have left much of the nation unhealthy and addicted. To take back control of our health and nutrition we need an approach that satiates us and allows our bodies to heal themselves. Enter the keto diet. While not new and definitely not a fad diet, keto immediately impacts blood sugar levels and reduces the amount of medication necessary to keep insulin levels in check. Drew welcomes Lauren and Mary of Fearless Keto. A mother-daughter team dedicated to providing support to women and girls who want better health but have difficulty breaking past eating patterns. Lauren struggled with committing to a healthy lifestyle in spite of the direction of her mother, Mary, who is a Certified Dietician. Both women share the story of what motivated them to create a support group and to provide products help people gradually adopt a keto lifestyle. Drew’s new book Complete Keto: A Guide for Transforming Your Body and Your Mind for Life is now available! Visit CompleteKeto.fit2fat2fit.com to get your copy now. Get the CK30 video series as a bonus when ordering with this link. If you like the podcast subscribe & review it on iTunes | Stitcher. Key Takeaways: [5:12] Lauren struggled with her weight her entire life before deciding enough is enough. [9:01] As a dietician and a parent, Mary had to find a balance of how to help her daughter. [14:15] Keto goes against everything Mary learned in her nutrition training. [19:34] The effect a keto lifestyle has on cholesterol and type 2 diabetes. [24:48] Through Fearless Keto, Lauren intends to share her experience and hopefully inspire other girls and women in a similar situation. [30:07] Mary explains the initial and long-term effects of a keto diet as it relates to Type 2 diabetes. [45:41] Mistakes people make when they go keto. Sponsors: Redmond Real Salt — An ancient seabed in Utah is the source for this natural, undiluted real salt with all the essential trace minerals left intact. Keto is better with Real Salt. Dry Farm Wines — You can have alcohol on the ketogenic diet. Use this link for a bottle of wine for $.01 with any order Complete Wellness Supplements — Shop Drew’s hand-formulated, pre-workout greens, Keto Meal with grass-fed collagen and BHB’s for mental clarity and a brain boost. Mentioned in This Episode: Fearless Keto Fearless Keto on Facebook @fearlessketo on Instagram Fit2Fat2Fit Take the Fit2Fat2Fit Podcast Listener Survey Fit2Fat2Fit on Facebook Fit2Fat2Fit Book Complete Keto Book Drew on Social Media: @fit2fat2fit Email Drew: Drew@fit2fat2fit.com

Apr 9, 2019 • 1h 5min
EP190: How Dogs Benefit from a Ketogenic Diet with Paul and Patrick of Visionary Pet
Most dog food is kibble comprised of a high percentage of corn, wheat, or soybeans. And, while it may satiate your dog until their next meal the ingredients lack the optimum amount of fat and protein dogs need to stay healthy and live a long, happy life. There are other low-carb food options available but how do you know which foods are created to drive profit for manufacturers versus food that is created with the health of your pup in mind? Drew welcomes the CEO and Marketing Director of Visionary Pet, an online raw, nutritious, ketogenic dog food creator to discuss the health benefits of placing your dog on a ketogenic protocol. The company was founded to support the KetoPet Sanctuary, a treatment center for shelter dogs with cancer. This episode explores the success rate of treating cancer in dogs with a keto diet, why the founders created the project and the benefits you can expect when transitioning your dog to raw, ketogenic food. Drew’s new book Complete Keto: A Guide for Transforming Your Body and Your Mind for Life is now available! Visit CompleteKeto.fit2fat2fit.com to get your copy now. Get the CK30 video series as a bonus when ordering with this link. If you like the podcast subscribe & review it on iTunes | Stitcher. Key Takeaways: [5:40] Assisting shelter dogs with cancer and other metabolic illnesses is the main goal of KetoPet Sanctuary. [9:40] The Visionary Pet website is designed to educate and support dog owners who wish to ensure their pets live long, happy healthy lives. [14:30] Patrick, Peter, and Drew share their views on why a low-carb lifestyle and the keto diet are here to stay. [24:43] Peter shares his keto journey. [29:10] The pet food industry and why nutritional labels may not tell the truth about the contents of the food. [40:36] What makes Visionary Pet food different from other dog foods? [45:33] How to transition a dog onto a keto diet and the benefits to your dog. Sponsors: Redmond Real Salt — An ancient seabed in Utah is the source for this natural, undiluted real salt with all the essential trace minerals left intact. Keto is better with Real Salt. Dry Farm Wines — You can have alcohol on the ketogenic diet. Use this link for a bottle of wine for $.01 with any order Complete Wellness Supplements — Shop Drew’s hand-formulated, pre-workout greens, Keto Meal with grass-fed collagen and BHB’s for mental clarity and a brain boost. Mentioned in This Episode: Visionary Pet Website KetoPet Sanctuary — Get the Free E-Book KetoPet on Facebook @ketopet on Twitter Fit2Fat2Fit Take the Fit2Fat2Fit Podcast Listener Survey Fit2Fat2Fit on Facebook Fit2Fat2Fit Book Complete Keto Book Drew on Social Media: @fit2fat2fit Email Drew: Drew@fit2fat2fit.com

Apr 2, 2019 • 56min
EP189: The Real Science Behind a Ketogenic Diet and Lifestyle
This week we revisit episode 094 where Drew chats with Ryan Lowery, the President and Co-Founder of the Applied Science and Performance Institute and co-author of the new book, The Ketogenic Bible. Ryan is rapidly becoming one of the premiere sports scientists in the nation. He and Jacob Wilson aka the Muscle Ph.D., perform clinical studies on human performance. Today’s conversation focuses on all things keto including keto and Crossfit, keto as a lifestyle, keto for muscle gain and the use of exogenous ketones for physical and cognitive boosts. Key Takeaways: [05:51] Ryan's origin story includes an early passion for athletics which led to disseminating science and research to the masses. [08:32] When Ryan was introduced to keto there were no meal plans or guidelines. [13:31] What applications make the ketogenic diet and lifestyle unique? [21:05] Ketones not only preserve muscle mass they reduce fat at the same time. [26:49] Keto, keto adaptation, and Crossfit. [32:21] Studying a keto traditional, cyclical and targeted lifestyle change. [38:00] Ryan describes exogenous ketones and endogenous ketones and their uses. [46:49] Protein intake on a ketogenic diet should be based on the individual. Sponsors: Four Sigmatic - 10% off your order with this link Dollar Workout Club Mentioned in This Episode: Applied Science and Performance Institute The Ketogenic Bible by Ryan Lowery and Jacob Wilson Ketogains Transform with Drew’s Fit2Fat2Fit 6-month Program Fit2Fat2Fit Fit2Fat2Fit on A&E Fit2Fat2Fit on Facebook Fit2Fat2Fit Book Drew on Social Media: @fit2fat2fit Email Drew: Drew@fit2fat2fit.com

Mar 26, 2019 • 50min
EP188: How to Live a More Fulfilling and Joyful Life with Kathryn Dixon
There is more to life than just macros, calories, weight loss, and getting skinny. Strengthening our emotional and mental health are essential aspects of living a life of joy and fulfillment. We suffer when we focus on anything that is outside of our realm of power. Be it the past or the future. The present is the only thing we can truly master at this moment. Kathryn Dixon, the life coach who helped Drew realize he was worthy of unconditional love, joins him today on the podcast. She talks about The Work of Byron Katie, the role of addiction in our lives, and the breaking of generational patterns. This episode touches on the side of transformation that isn't often discussed and how it all ties in together. Drew’s new book Complete Keto: A Guide for Transforming Your Body and Your Mind for Life is now available! Visit CompleteKeto.fit2fat2fit.com to get your copy now. Get the CK30 video series as a bonus when ordering with this link. If you like the podcast subscribe & review it on iTunes | Stitcher. Key Takeaways: [7:08] Katherine describes what led her to become a life coach in her chosen discipline. [11:43] The four questions to ask yourself to trigger a self-help breakthrough. [18:58] How do we learn we are worthy of unconditional love? [26:14] The Three Realms of Power and why understanding how they can relieve suffering. [32:35] A reminder: Other people’s impressions of us are not us. Sponsors: Dry Farm Wines — You can have alcohol on the ketogenic diet. Use this link for a bottle of wine for $.01 with any order Complete Wellness Supplements — Shop Drew’s hand-formulated, pre-workout greens, Keto Meal with grass-fed collagen and BHB’s for mental clarity and a brain boost. Mentioned in This Episode: Clarity Coaching Institute Kathryn Dixon on The Work Website Listen to Episode 100 to hear Drew’s first encounter with Kathryn Fit2Fat2Fit Take the Fit2Fat2Fit Podcast Listener Survey Fit2Fat2Fit on Facebook Fit2Fat2Fit Book Complete Keto Book Drew on Social Media: @fit2fat2fit Email Drew: Drew@fit2fat2fit.com

Mar 19, 2019 • 47min
EP187: The Courage It Takes to Truly Transform - Revisiting The Chris Powell Interview
Knowing what you are good at and not good at can save you lots of money, just ask Chris Powell. Today we revisit our first interview with Chris - he figured out (by trial and error) he was a much better trainer than a businessman. He openly admits to his hard times and shares how living in a bitter place transformed him to become the friend, husband, father and trainer he is today. He believes being vulnerable can open a person up to growth and change your life forever. Losing weight might be the end goal but the way to get there is through your heart and mind. Key Takeaways: [3:07] Chris is a father of 4 and the host of Extreme Weight Loss [4:10] Drew and Chris’ first meeting [6:16] Somebody always wants to take a picture when eating normal food [7:55] I indulge in my cravings but I balance it out with additional measures [9:51] Is it possible to cheat the system [11:12] Chris didn’t think he was going to be a trainer, he was going to be a pilot [15:27] Training has always been a passion [16:07] Producers are always looking for new idea’s [17:49] Super obese people want help we just don’t know about them [18:19] An e-mail changed two lives dramatically [21:07] I lost all of my money on bad investments [22:39] A seedy pick up line worked on my wife [23:45] Months after we pitched the show idea ABC bought it [26:48] Losing everything caused me to be bitter but I had to go through hard times [29:23] Accepting your vulnerabilities can open you up to growth and change your life forever [33:47] Power struggles are behind many of my arguments [35:13] Ego is a powerful tool in transformations [37:15] When the cameras go away and the scale stays the same what happens [40:12] Chris would never do a fit2fat2fit experience [42:26] Breakfast cereal, straight cream, fried chicken and milkshakes [44:13] The lightning round Mentions: QuestNutrition ExtremeWeightLoss ChrisPowell @realchrispowell Fit2Fat2Fit Photo Credit: KaceyLuviPhotography @kaseyluvi on instagram Quest Nutrition

Mar 12, 2019 • 28min
EP186: The Evolution of Keto
The ketogenic diet has evolved since the 1920s when doctors discovered the benefit of using ketones as a fuel source to control seizures in children with drug-resistant epilepsy. Then before the dawn of social media, the keto diet was passed around like a secret in gyms where weightlifters and athletes worked out. Now, there is an entire industry built to offer support for those on the keto diet. You can get keto supplements, keto meal plans, books dedicated to keto, and even listen to keto-based podcasts. But, how do you know which version of keto is right for you? In this episode, Drew explores the evolution of the ketogenic diet, why a bio-individualized approach is better than a one-size-fits-all approach, and the different morphs of the ketogenic diet, including the Carnivore and the plant-based versions. Drew’s new book Complete Keto: A Guide for Transforming Your Body and Your Mind for Life is now available! Visit CompleteKeto.fit2fat2fit.com to get your copy now. Get the CK30 video series as a bonus when ordering with this link. If you like the podcast subscribe & review it on iTunes | Stitcher. Key Takeaways: [4:19] The history of the ketogenic diet and how it evolved. [5:45] Early keto diets consisted of a higher percentage of fat and lower protein intake. [12:12] Metabolic flexibility describes how the body is designed to run on glucose and ketones. [17:15] The good and bad side to ketone supplements. [21:02] Carnivore or plant-based keto, which is right for you? Sponsors: Dry Farm Wines — You can have alcohol on the ketogenic diet. Use this link for a bottle of wine for $.01 with any order Complete Wellness Supplements — Shop Drew’s hand-formulated, pre-workout greens, Keto Meal with grass-fed collagen and BHB’s for mental clarity and a brain boost. Mentioned in This Episode: Fit2Fat2Fit Take the Fit2Fat2Fit Podcast Listener Survey Fit2Fat2Fit on Facebook Fit2Fat2Fit Book Complete Keto Book Drew on Social Media: @fit2fat2fit Email Drew: Drew@fit2fat2fit.com

Mar 5, 2019 • 51min
EP185: Is There a Plant-Based Approach to the Ketogenic Diet? With Dr. Will Cole
Can Vegetarians become fat adapted and live a keto lifestyle? Yes, they can. What about Vegans? Can they become fat adapted and live a keto lifestyle? Well, mostly. They can become Ketotarians. As a leading expert in Functional Medicine, Dr. Will Cole works with patients from all over the world to help investigate chronic diseases and to provide the framework for optimal functioning of the body and its organs. During this podcast, Dr. Cole shares his experience of growing up in a Vegan household, why he transitioned from Vegan to Ketotarian, his advice for parents whose primary goal is to feed their children nourishing food, and common mistakes people make when trying keto for the first time. Drew’s new book Complete Keto: A Guide for Transforming Your Body and Your Mind for Life is now available! Visit CompleteKeto.fit2fat2fit.com to get your copy now. If you like the podcast subscribe & review it on iTunes | Stitcher. Key Takeaways: [5:26] Dr. Cole grew up in a vegan household but when he started having digestive problems he needed to find a plant-based diet that met his body’s needs. [8:31] Parents, don’t be ashamed of teaching your kids to eat for nourishment! [14:26] How and why Dr. Cole transitioned from Veganism and into Ketotarianism. [22:24] In his book, Ketotarian Dr. Cole describes the benefits of becoming fat adapted for Vegans. [28:22] Common mistakes many people make when trying a ketogenic diet for the first time. [34:30] Why do some doctors advise against a keto diet? [37:26] Dr. Cole shares his professional opinion about the Carnivore diet. Sponsors: Dry Farm Wines — You can have alcohol on the ketogenic diet. Use this link for a bottle of wine for $.01 with any order Complete Wellness Supplements — Shop Drew’s hand-formulated, pre-workout greens, Keto Meal with grass-fed collagen and BHB’s for mental clarity and a brain boost. Mentioned in This Episode: Dr. Will Cole The Ultimate Health Podcast Dr. Will Cole on Facebook @DrWillCole on Twitter Fit2Fat2Fit Take the Fit2Fat2Fit Podcast Listener Survey Fit2Fat2Fit on Facebook Fit2Fat2Fit Book Complete Keto Book Drew on Social Media: @fit2fat2fit Email Drew: Drew@fit2fat2fit.com

Feb 26, 2019 • 25min
EP184: 3 Ways to Add Carbohydrates into a Ketogenic Diet
Even though the Ketogenic Diet has been around for years many people still have questions about how it affects their mental, physical, and emotional health. On this Fit2Fat2Fit podcast, Drew took the time to interview medical professionals and the long-time adoptees of the keto diet to find the answers to common questions and misconceptions about keto. He compiled his findings, along with lifestyle and management options in his new book, Complete Keto. During this episode, he shares excerpts from the book that focus on how to add carbohydrates back into a diet AFTER the body has become keto-adapted. Drew’s new book Complete Keto: A Guide for Transforming Your Body and Your Mind for Life is now available for pre-order! Visit CompleteKeto.fit2fat2fit.com to order your copy now. If you like the podcast subscribe & review it on iTunes | Stitcher. Key Takeaways: [4:48] Humans were designed to be omnivores. [6:27] The importance of testing throughout the keto-adaptation phase. [8:38] How to use the Targeted Ketogenic Diet (TKD) to enhance performance during a workout. [13:05] The Cyclical Ketogenic Diet (CKD) is a balanced approach that allows carbs one or two days a week. [15:47] The Intermittent Ketogenic Diet (IKD) uses the CK30-day program as a total body reset. [17:36] What about staying on a strict ketogenic diet for life? Sponsors: Dry Farm Wines — You can have alcohol on the ketogenic diet. Use this link for a bottle of wine for $.01 with any order Complete Wellness Supplements — Shop Drew’s hand-formulated, pre-workout greens, Keto Meal with grass-fed collagen and BHB’s for mental clarity and a brain boost. Mentioned in This Episode: Fit2Fat2Fit Take the Fit2Fat2Fit Podcast Listener Survey Fit2Fat2Fit on Facebook Fit2Fat2Fit Book Complete Keto Book Drew on Social Media: @fit2fat2fit Email Drew: Drew@fit2fat2fit.com

Feb 19, 2019 • 49min
EP183: Taking the SANE Approach to Eradicate Diabesity with Jonathan Bailor
Diabesity is a medical condition affecting many Americans. Studies show, the disease is 19% more deadly than cancer. Drew’s guest, Jonathan Bailor struggled throughout his life to add weight to his frame. During that time, he also coached people on the opposite end of the spectrum who were desperately trying to reduce their weight, without success. He knew it had to be more than just counting calories. His research inspired him to bring to light the falsities within the health and fitness industry and to share the truths he learned from thousands of real-life examples. He created the Setpoint Diet with the goal of eradicating diabesity and to help people live kick-ass lives. My new book Complete Keto: A Guide for Transforming Your Body and Your Mind for Life is available NOW! Visit CompleteKeto.fit2fat2fit.com to order your copy. Get special bonuses if you order more than one copy. If you like the podcast subscribe & review it on iTunes | Stitcher. Key Takeaways: [5:38] In his teens, Jonathan ate 6000 calories a day but still couldn’t gain a pound. [10:12] The Calorie Myth breaks the common beliefs about counting calories and why it’s a useless endeavor. [19:52] The Setpoint Diet focuses on a 21-day protocol optimizing Satiation, Aggression, Nutrition, and Efficiency (SANE eating). [28:53] Common misperceptions about diet and exercise that are simply insane. [32:46] Jonathan describes the real threat of Diabesity, the importance of food quality over quantity, and the small glimmer of hope which exists to change the society’s health. [40:02] The Diabesity documentary highlights the benefits of having a kick-ass life. Sponsors: Dry Farm Wines — You can have alcohol on the ketogenic diet. Use this link for a bottle of wine for $.01 with any order Complete Wellness Supplements — Shop Drew’s hand-formulated, pre-workout greens, Keto Meal with grass-fed collagen and BHB’s for mental clarity and a brain boost. Mentioned in This Episode: SANESolution SANESolution on Facebook Diabesity Series The Setpoint Diet: The 21-Day Program to Permanently Change What Your Body "Wants" to Weigh, by Jonathan Bailor Fit2Fat2Fit Take the Fit2Fat2Fit Podcast Listener Survey Fit2Fat2Fit on Facebook Fit2Fat2Fit Book Complete Keto Book Drew on Social Media: @fit2fat2fit Email Drew: Drew@fit2fat2fit.com