

Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher
Zach Dasher
Welcome to Not Yet Now, a podcast where we explore the tension of living in the "already, not yet" reality of God's kingdom. Together, we'll dive into how Christ's reign is breaking into our world today, even as we long for its complete fulfillment. Join us as we reflect on how this dynamic shapes our culture, our lives, and our calling to live in the light of the kingdom that is both here and still to come.
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Dec 9, 2025 • 57min
Covenant Chaos: Tackling the Tough Topics in Marriage | #60
What are the two biggest threats to marital bliss? Sex and money often spark the fiercest conflicts in marriage. In this episode, we delve into these serious issues, exploring how financial stress can impact intimacy and how to navigate covenant fidelity amidst societal pressures and the realities of divorce.
But it’s not all serious—get ready to laugh as we recount our wild ride through the chaotic moments of married life! From memorable grocery store altercations over brand-name vs. generic products that humorously escalated into a four-day debate to the realities of wedding expenses, we share personal stories that highlight the rollercoaster of merging lives.
Listeners will gain valuable insights into understanding God's design for marriage and the importance of commitment. This episode, filled with humor and heartfelt discussions, is perfect for anyone navigating the early days of marriage or reflecting on their journey. Tune in for a candid conversation that embraces the complexities of married life, anchored in faith and purpose.

Dec 2, 2025 • 43min
Hell, Presence, and the Good Life Jesus Offers | #59
A lighthearted Back to the Future moment quickly gives way to one of Jesus’ most intense teachings, as Zach, Jill, and Brandon dive into Mark 9 with honesty and depth. Together they explore why Jesus uses such strong language with His own disciples, what hell truly represents, and how subtle distractions can quietly pull us away from God’s presence. With personal stories and thoughtful theology, the conversation reveals how Jesus’ toughest words aren’t meant to scare us, but to call us back to freedom, wholeness, and the life we were created for.

Nov 25, 2025 • 45min
Late-Night Calls and Humble Hearts: Insights from Mark 9 | #58
In a thrilling start to this episode, Zach recounts a dramatic late-night call from his daughter Laela that sent him racing into action as a protective dad. This heart-pounding moment not only highlights the depth of parental love but also sets the stage for a deeper exploration of faith and responsibility!
As the conversation unfolds, Zach, Jill, and Brandon delve into Mark, where Jesus reveals His impending suffering and resurrection while the disciples argue about who is the greatest among them. They explore the rich irony of this moment and discuss how it illustrates our struggles with pride and ambition.
Through this examination of scripture, they reflect on the transformative power of humility, the calling to self-sacrificial love, and the true nature of greatness in the kingdom of God.
Join us for a lively conversation filled with personal stories, biblical insights, and spiritual reflections, reminding us that true greatness stems from serving others and embracing our roles as stewards of God's love. Don’t miss this inspiring episode that will challenge you to reflect on your own faith journey and invite you to live out the teachings of Christ in your daily life!

Nov 18, 2025 • 40min
The Power of Presence: From Snowfall to Scripture | #57
What if the quiet of a snowfall could teach you more about faith than a thousand sermons?
In this reflective and heartwarming episode of The Not Yet Now Podcast, Zach, Jill, and Brandon explore what it truly means to be present—in our surroundings, in our relationships, and in our walk with God. A rare early snowfall sets the stage as Zach shares a serene moment with Ruth, reminding us how nature invites us back into the now. The hosts connect the wonder of creation to Mark 9’s raw, honest cry: “I believe; help my unbelief,” unpacking the tension between doubt and faith that resonates across generations. They dive into the power of prayer, the necessity of community, and the surprising ways God meets us in quiet moments.

Nov 11, 2025 • 51min
A Divine Encounter: Unveiling the Glory of the Transfiguration | #56
Experience a divine moment that transforms everything you thought you knew about God and faith! Join Zach Dasher, Jill, and Branden as we explore Mark 9 and the powerful event of the Transfiguration, where Jesus radiates uncreated light alongside Moses and Elijah, symbolizing the Law and the Prophets. We’ll unpack the significance of God's declaration, “This is my beloved Son—listen to Him,” and how it shifts our understanding of the Kingdom of God from a distant promise to a present reality.
Together, we'll reflect on why some listeners would witness this transformational power—pointing to the Pentecost—and the way “Jesus only” reshapes our view of discipleship, mission, and sacred spaces in our lives. From the echoes of Sinai to the beauty of living as a mobile sanctuary, this episode reveals how the mountain experience prepares us for love at the cross. If you’ve struggled with performance-based faith, anxiety, or external pressures, this conversation invites you to center your life around the Person of Jesus—encouraging you to listen to Him and carry His presence into your daily world.

Nov 4, 2025 • 58min
Active, Not Reactive: Reed & Brighton Robertson on Seeking the Kingdom | #55
Zach and Jill welcome family (and fan favorites) Reed & Brighton Robertson for a vulnerable, joy-filled conversation about moving from a reactive life to actively seeking the Kingdom—in marriage, parenting, community, and grief. From growing up amid Duck Dynasty fame to soldering LED panels for $14/hour, Reed opens up about identity, pressure, and how the Holy Spirit met them in the ordinary. Brighton shares candidly about losing her father, then later her niece and nephew, and how that unimaginable sorrow reshaped their faith, purpose, and pace. Together they wrestle with the “already and not yet” of the Kingdom, temple imagery, and why Jesus’ resurrection in the flesh changes how we live today.
If you’re longing for direction, community, or courage to live on offense—not defense—this one’s for you.
In this episode:
• Family, fame, and finding identity beyond a TV moment
• Seek first the Kingdom (Matthew 6) as a daily, active posture
• When grief hits: hope, honesty, and the Spirit who sustains (Romans 8)
• The tension of Kingdom now & Kingdom coming (Hebrews 12; Ephesians 2; 1 & 2 John)
• Why bodies matter: incarnation, resurrection, and temple language
• Marriage, kids, and how God uses family to sanctify our loves
• Choosing intentional community over isolation

Oct 28, 2025 • 55min
The Confession That Shakes Hell: Seeing Clearly with Jesus (Mark 8) | #54
In Mark 8, everything converges: blurry sight, bold confession, and a Kingdom that hell itself can’t stop.
Zach Dasher and Branden unpack one of Scripture’s hinge moments—Peter’s confession that Jesus is the Christ—and why Jesus’ reply, “On this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it,” still defines reality.
From the staged healing at Bethsaida to the confrontation “Get behind me, Satan,” this episode traces how revelation becomes revolution. What happens when our vision of the Kingdom shifts from power and control to self-giving love? How does the cross redefine dominion?
Drawing on weddings that became living parables of community and sacrificial love, Zach and Branden challenge the defensive posture of modern Christianity and recover the explosive confidence of a Church that storms the gates of hell.

Oct 21, 2025 • 39min
The God Who Provides in the Desert | #53
Zach and Jill reflect on the feeding of the 4,000 in Mark 8, where Jesus—now among the Gentiles—reenacts the Exodus story in a new wilderness. Just as manna once fell from heaven, bread now multiplies in the hands of the Messiah, revealing that God’s presence is never barren ground. In this conversation, they explore how the abundance of bread points to the abundance of grace—showing that when God provides, He provides more than enough.

Oct 14, 2025 • 51min
Reflections by the Fire: A Year of Not Yet Now | #52
One year in—52 episodes—and I’m honestly grateful you’re here. This little show has become a place where I (Zach) get to slow down, reflect, and share what’s been stirring in my heart—something I don’t always get to do elsewhere. When we walked in to record our anniversary episode, Jill had us gathered by the fireplace for a quick photo, and it hit me: this hasn’t just been content; it’s been community. From the guys who showed up early to church and said, “We watch Not Yet Now,” to the young man who drove from Nashville and told me, “Christ didn’t come to get us out of hell; He came to get the hell out of us,” you’ve reminded us why these conversations matter.
In this episode, we look back on how the past year has shaped us—how a line from a friend’s wedding made us rethink what it means to “help each other get to heaven,” and how a simple family reset around Matthew 6:33 reminded us that seeking the Kingdom now changes the way we love each other right here, today. We trace Isaiah 35 into Mark 7, seeing that Jesus’ healings weren’t just proofs—they were previews of a world being made new.
It’s part theology, part laughter, part honest reflection—a year of learning out loud. We’ve sighed, questioned, laughed, and marveled at what God is doing among us. If these conversations have helped you see Scripture—and your place in it—a little clearer, that’s the win. Here’s to more courage, more grace, and more of His Kingdom showing up right where we live. (And yes… Mark 8 is on deck. Can He do it again?)

Oct 7, 2025 • 53min
From Dogs to Daughters: A Story of Grace in Mark 7 | #51
What if the most jarring word from Jesus—“dogs”—is actually the doorway to healing and an unshakable Kingdom?
In this week’s Not Yet Now episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon start with lighthearted banter about matching outfits, mountain weather, and upcoming weddings—but quickly turn to Mark 7 and one of the most uncomfortable passages in the Gospels: Jesus’ interaction with the Syrophoenician woman. As the team unpacks the text, they trace how Mark intentionally moves from food laws to the tearing down of ethnic and cultural walls.
Jesus’ shocking words to this woman—calling her a “dog”—weren’t meant to demean but to reveal, exposing the reality of separation so that grace could bridge the divide. Her humble, desperate reply becomes a living picture of faith: “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the table.” From there, the conversation widens into modern implications—how we engage a culture that often feels like “enemy territory,” how to see others through the lens of the Imago Dei, and how Jesus exposes us not to shame us, but to redeem us.
The crew explores the freedom that comes when we stop defending ourselves and start receiving grace. They remind listeners that the Church is never under threat, that the Kingdom of God cannot be shaken, and that humility—not hostility—is the posture of those who have tasted the bread of life.
It’s a deeply honest conversation about pride, exposure, redemption, and the transforming reality that Jesus reveals to heal, not to humiliate.


