

Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher
Zach Dasher
Welcome to Not Yet Now, a podcast where we explore the tension of living in the "already, not yet" reality of God's kingdom. Together, we'll dive into how Christ's reign is breaking into our world today, even as we long for its complete fulfillment. Join us as we reflect on how this dynamic shapes our culture, our lives, and our calling to live in the light of the kingdom that is both here and still to come.
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Aug 26, 2025 • 53min
Dumpster Dives & Divine Lessons: What Rejection Taught Us About Faith | #44
Dumpster diving for unexpected treasures—you never know what you’ll find! In this episode, we dive into Mark 6:1-6, exploring Jesus’ rejection by His own people and what it teaches us about faith, doubt, and belonging. Along the way, we share wild stories from chaotic church gatherings like breakfast casseroles and reveal how sincerity beats cynicism in creating genuine connections. These conversations remind us that faith isn’t just a transaction—it’s a relational, transformational journey with God, who is our ultimate prize. Tune in for powerful insights, surprising stories, and a fresh take on life, faith, and miracles.

Aug 19, 2025 • 51min
Big Boy Miracles: Faith in the Midst of Crisis | #43
Did Zach’s failed mullet experiment end with a shaved head or a trip to the hair-plug clinic? In this episode of Not Yet Now, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher, along with Brandon Hudson, dive into Mark 5, a chapter packed with healing, faith, and the power of Jesus to bring life out of death.
From Jairus’s desperate plea to the bleeding woman’s bold interruption, the crew explores how Jesus meets people in moments of crisis, shows His sovereignty without rigidity, and reminds us that His path is never random but always purposeful. They unpack what it means to have faith in Jesus rather than the faith of Jesus, and why the difference matters when prayers feel unanswered.
This conversation touches everything from “big boy miracles” (like raising the dead) to the deeply relational heart of God—who stops for the hurting, who makes the unclean clean, and who invites us to bring our brokenness to Him. Along the way, they wrestle with sovereignty, suffering, unanswered prayers, and the danger of mistaking the signposts of healing for the ultimate destination.
Join Zach, Jill, and Brandon for a rich, honest conversation about faith, healing, and hope in the God who sees, knows, and loves His people.

Aug 12, 2025 • 50min
Unleashing the Kingdom: How One Encounter Changes Everything | #42
From chains to freedom—imagine the most broken, the most unclean transforming into a powerful testimony of hope and healing. In this compelling episode, we dive into the powerful story of the demon-possessed man from Mark 5. Here, Jesus boldly crosses the sea into Gentile territory, intentionally bringing the Kingdom to those far from God, fulfilling prophecies and extending His grace to the nations.
Jill and I just wrapped up a transformative week with amazing kids from a local children’s home, and it struck me: our identity as children of God is where our true power lies. Much like that man who encountered Jesus, our pain can become our superpower.
As we explore this remarkable story, we’ll dive into the clash of light and darkness and how Jesus brings freedom to the captive. This isn’t just a random moment; it’s a moment of divine purpose as He reaches out to the unclean and breaks the chains of sin and shame.
Join us on this journey from shame to wholeness, embracing our identity as living temples filled with His light. This episode is all about the redemptive power of Jesus and His promise to bring His Kingdom to each of us in a chaotic world. Trust me, you won’t want to miss it!

Aug 5, 2025 • 54min
Beyond the Storm: Uncovering Peace in a Divided World | #41
As political storms rage around us, how can we find calm in the chaos? In this enlightening episode of Not Yet Now, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher and Brandon Hudson explore the tempestuous climate of our modern world, where even the simplest aspects of life are swept into the whirlwind of political drama. They delve into the importance of viewing individuals as unique contributors rather than getting lost in the ideological turbulence that seeks to divide us.Against this cultural backdrop, the team emphasizes the necessity of fostering genuine conversations and deepening our relationships, reminding us that true connection transcends judgment. Recalling their church's inception during the tumult of COVID, they draw on the story from Mark 4, where Jesus calms the storm, challenging listeners to reflect on their future aspirations in the midst of uncertainty.They examine the unparalleled authority of Christ and how a deeper understanding of God's character guides us toward authentic faith. Parallels between Jesus and biblical figures like Jonah and Moses emerge, highlighting that true grace comes from God's condescension, not our attempts to decipher Him.Rich with compelling insights, this episode encourages listeners to trust in God's sovereignty during life's storms and to actively seek His presence. Join the conversation as Zach, Jill, and Brandon underscore the significance of suffering as a pathway to release grace into the world, reinforcing that our ultimate promise of peace is found in our relationship with God.Tune in to realize how Jesus remains uncancelable amidst life’s trials, offering us a beacon of hope and the transformative power of faith and community.

Jul 30, 2025 • 51min
Heretic or Misunderstood? A Kingdom Conversation on Surrender and Soil | #40
Zach and Brandon set the record straight and dig deeper into what really bears fruit.
The hosts unpack the idea that all of Scripture—from Moses to Paul to the Gospels—is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and no part should be elevated over another. It’s not about red letters or black letters; it’s all God’s Word.
But this episode isn’t just about clarifying a misunderstanding—it’s about shifting the conversation entirely. Zach and Brandon challenge the tribalism in the Church today, where honest disagreement is often met with personal attacks and cancelation. Have we lost our ability to have authentic, grace-filled conversations?
They explore the temptation to rely on systems, theology, and frameworks as substitutes for real relationship with Christ. While helpful, these constructs can easily become distractions if they’re not rooted in the living presence of Jesus and the leading of the Spirit.
Throughout the conversation, the hosts return again and again to the image of the mustard seed, the wheat, and the scorched earth—reminding us that the Kingdom of God is not something we build or strategize into existence. It’s something God is already doing. We are simply invited in. Our job? Plant. Water. Tend. But God alone gives the growth.
They ask, what kind of soil is Christ calling us to be? Sometimes, it’s scorched earth where all of our striving ends—but it’s there the holy seed remains. It's not about what we can build for God, but about yielding to what He is building in us.
As they share personal stories of how their own church emerged from devastation—literally from the rubble of a hurricane—Zach and Brandon testify that obedience, not strategy, led to unexpected fruit. In the Kingdom, the way forward is not strength but surrender. Not control, but trust.
💬 “Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains alone.” (John 12)
🌱 The call is not just to get your theology right—it’s to die to yourself.
Because on the other side of that surrender? Life. Real fruit. The Kingdom.
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Jul 22, 2025 • 53min
Disrupting the Soil: The Parable of the Sower and Isaiah 6 Unpacked | #39
Dive deep as the crew unpacks the significance of truly hearing and responding to God’s Word, the importance of disrupting the soil of our hearts, and the transformative power of faith. In this thought-provoking episode of the Not Yet Now podcast, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher, alongside Brandon, engage in a lively discussion about the parallels between Isaiah 6 and the Parable of the Sower from Mark 4.
Explore the practical implications of the four types of soil and how they relate to our own spiritual journeys. Are we allowing the cares of the world to choke out the life of the Word in us? How can we cultivate good soil that bears fruit in our lives? With personal anecdotes and biblical insights, the hosts challenge listeners to evaluate their own responsiveness to God’s message.
Join us for an enlightening conversation that emphasizes the beauty of inclusion in the Kingdom of God, the necessity of true engagement with faith, and the promise that those who genuinely seek will be transformed. Tune in for practical applications that can help guide you in nurturing a rich, fertile heart ready to receive and act on God’s Word.

Jul 15, 2025 • 47min
The Power of Parables: Unlocking the Secret of Jesus' Teachings | #38
Why did Jesus choose to speak in parables? Why not just lay it all out clearly? Join the trio of Zach and Jill Dasher, along with Brandon Hudson, as they explore the stickiness of stories and how they shape our understanding of the world around us. Jesus’ parables invite us into a deeper relationship with Him—one that transcends mere knowledge.
We’ll discuss the importance of heart posture in receiving God’s message, the significance of being the right kind of soil, and how humility unlocks the secrets of His kingdom. Discover how God isn’t arbitrarily excluding people from His grace but rather inviting us into a heartfelt love relationship.
We'll also unpack how the promise of God finds fulfillment in the seed of Jesus Christ and explore the open secret of the kingdom: “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Tune in to learn how leaning in with an open heart can transform our lives and help us bear the fruit of love, joy, and peace.
Let’s embark on this journey together, seeking the heart of the matter and uncovering the richness of Jesus’ teachings!

Jul 8, 2025 • 43min
Teenage Dating & Parental Guidance | #37
Are you dating, considering dating, or parenting someone through dating? This raw and heartfelt episode features Zach and Jill, along with their son Max Dasher and his girlfriend Annabelle, and is definitely worth a listen.
Zach and Jill discuss the beauty of marriage and God's design behind it as they unpack the reasons for delaying physical intimacy until you are in a covenant. Jill opens up about a past relationship and the tough decision she had to make, which led her into a season of loneliness.
This conversation is anything but surface-level. From Zach’s attempts to deter the two from dating to Max’s confession that he wished they had listened to his father’s advice, this episode is filled with real-life, applicable wisdom from a Christian perspective.

Jul 1, 2025 • 54min
We Stopped Pretending Our Way Through Marriage. That's When Everything Changed. | #36
From broken-down cars and cell phones to kicked-down doors and family disagreements, this episode has it all. It’s often said that the best conversations begin with confession, and that’s precisely how this episode on marriage unfolds. The night before this recording, the Dasher family experienced a disagreement that adds a little extra color to this flavorful and enriching discussion, filled with topics such as: How do you know they’re the one? Do you need the perfect “setup” to get married? What does it mean to be known? Comparison, and what happens when the honeymoon phase is over.
Tune in as two young newlyweds discuss the joys and challenges of merging different family dynamics while learning to “leave and cleave.” Zach and Jill share crucial lessons they have learned through their mistakes and attempts to “pretend their way” through marriage.
If you’re looking for an honest conversation from two married couples who don’t claim to be experts but are simply pursuing the heart of God through the power of the Holy Spirit, then you won’t want to miss this episode. The fig leaves are coming off in this challenging yet truth-filled discussion, encouraging us to reach a greater level of knowing our spouse.

Jun 24, 2025 • 60min
Have I Gone Too Far? Blasphemy, Fear, and the Holy Spirit | #35
“What if I’ve blasphemed the Holy Spirit?” It’s a question that lingers in the minds of many believers—and honestly, it’s one we’ve heard more than a few times. It’s a question I have asked myself before. In this episode of Not Yet Now, Jill, Brandon, and I sit down to unpack this often misunderstood and deeply sobering topic.
We dig into what it actually means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, why this sin is treated differently in Scripture, and how the Holy Spirit’s role is to guide us into truth, reveal the heart of God, and continually call us to repentance. But when that voice is rejected—when God’s revelation is persistently denied—the consequences are eternal.
Throughout the conversation, we explore the importance of community in keeping our faith anchored. Our identity as believers isn’t just personal; it’s communal. We were never meant to walk this road alone, and when it comes to discerning truth, fighting spiritual apathy, and turning back to God, the support of a Christ-centered community is essential.
We also talk about the seriousness of sin and the danger of a heart that becomes hardened over time. A healthy fear of God is actually good for us; it keeps us spiritually alert and dependent on grace. But here’s the good news we keep coming back to: repentance is always available to those who seek it. The fact that you’re concerned about blaspheming the Spirit may be the very sign that your heart is still soft enough to respond.
Ultimately, we land where we always do—at the cross. Christ’s sacrifice is enough. No matter your past, no matter your questions, He is sufficient. So if this has been weighing on you, don’t carry it alone. Join the conversation, and let’s walk through it together.