The Back of the Line: Where True Glory Is Found | #64

After a much-needed sabbatical, Zach and Jill return to the Not Yet Now podcast reflecting on rest, family rhythms, and what it means to unplug from the “matrix.” From there, the conversation moves deep into Mark 10:32–45—a passage that radically redefines power, glory, and greatness in the Kingdom of God. As Jesus walks resolutely toward His own suffering and death, James and John ask for seats of honor in His glory. What follows is a stunning collision between the kingdom of man and the kingdom of God. Zach and Jill explore how humanity’s instinct for power and position clashes with Jesus’ vision of dominion through service, authority through sacrifice, and glory through the cross. This episode wrestles honestly with ambition, leadership, discipleship, and the deep longing to live a life that matters—while exposing the lie that fulfillment is found in control or status. Instead, Jesus offers a different way: the cruciform life, where greatness is found in serving, and true dominion looks nothing like domination. A rich, pastoral, and deeply theological conversation about power, suffering, glory, and what it really means to follow Jesus in the way of the Kingdom.