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Thinking On Paper
Thinking On Paper gets up close and personal with AI, quantum computing, and the future of technology. Hosts Mark Fielding and Jeremy Gilbertson talk with CEOs, scientists, and cultural thinkers about how tech is redefining work, culture, and humanity. From Silicon Valley startups to Fortune 500 tech giants like IBM, they ask what it means to stay human and curious. Thursdays feature long-form interviews; Mondays, the Book Club breaks down essential books like Empire of AI, Nexus and Irreducible. Clear, curious, and critical. Listen now.
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Jan 21, 2025 • 38min
From the KGB to ChatGPT - When Caesar, Stalin, and AI Rule Together
What do Caesar, Stalin, and ChatGPT have in common? Power. In this episode of Thinking on Paper, Mark and Jeremy rip open Chapter 5 of Yuval Noah Harari’s Nexus to trace the dark arc of information control—from ancient empires to today’s algorithmic warfare.Forget the talking points. This is about the real fight: democracy vs. totalitarianism in an age where AI systems write the rules, rewrite the facts, and never sleep.You’ll hear:Why ancient hunter-gatherers might understand democracy better than you.How Nero’s propaganda machine isn’t so different from your TikTok feed.Why pamphlets once toppled kings—and why AI memes might do the same.Whether book clubs are the last real firewall against algorithmic dictatorship.The past isn’t prologue—it’s ammunition. If you want to understand where this is heading, you’ve got to know how we got here.Subscribe. Listen. And maybe, survive.-- TIMESTAMPS(00:00) Disruptors and book lovers(00:34) Chapter 5 summary(01:14) Jeremy's first impressions(01:53) The difference between democracy and totalitarianism(03:58) Flipping democracy(05:01) Populism(09:34) A brief history of democracy(12:23) Scale and Ancient Rome(14:56) What is meaningful discourse?(16:10) Do people like being governed?(18:43) The rise of the pamphlet(20:30) The spectrum of democracy(24:27) Totalitarianism(25:54) Don't be Stalin's general(30:00) Will AI be democratic or a dictator?(30:58) Book clubs as self-correcting mechanisms(33:24) Will AI remove the human from the loop?--Read more books: www.thinkingonpaper.xyz#AIethics #emergingtechnology #nexus #AI

Jan 21, 2025 • 51min
Quantum XPRIZE: Revolutionizing Climate Change, Medicine & Energy with Quantum Computing
Could quantum computing revolutionize our fight against climate change, accelerate breakthroughs in medicine, and unlock new sources of energy? In this show we sit down with Kathrin Spendier, Technical Prize Director at XPRIZE, to learn how the $5 million Quantum XPRIZE is pushing quantum technology into the real world. Discover how quantum algorithms could transform sustainability, drug development, and material scienceHere’s what you’ll discover:- How Google Quantum is backing this three-year global competition involving 300 teams from 46 countries.-Why quantum algorithms could transform sustainability, drug development, and material science.-The surprising link between quantum computing and natural processes like photosynthesis.-How constraints and competition fuel the innovation needed to solve humanity's greatest challenges.Kathrin breaks down what makes quantum computing so powerful yet so difficult to develop and what it could achieve in the near future.Please enjoy the show.--XPrize: https://www.xprize.org/homeBooks Mentioned:Dance of the Photons, by Anton ZeilingerThe Dancing Wu Li Masters, by Gary ZukavSurely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!, by Richard P. Feynman--Timestamps(00:00) - Welcome Disruptors and Curious Minds(02:10) - Meet Kathrin Spendier: XPRIZE Technical Prize Director(04:42) - Quantum vs. Classical Computing: What’s the Difference?(07:26) - What Is XPRIZE and How Does It Drive Innovation?(14:50) - The Challenges Tackled by the Quantum XPRIZE(17:20) - Quantum Algorithms(27:14) - Who’s Competing in the Quantum XPRIZE?(29:18) - The $5 Million XPRIZE Purse: Why That Amount?(32:17) - Hot Buttons: Rapid-Fire Quantum Insights(33:44) - Are We Living in a Simulation? (33:58) - Top Quantum News and Industry Updates(36:00) - Scaling Quantum Computing(38:12) - Google’s Willow Chip and the Importance of Error Correction(47:16) - Carry-Over Question: How Can Technology Serve Social Good?(49:42) - Mark & Jeremy Reflect: Backstage Thoughts on Quantum and XPRIZE--Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJi7aP5B69A&ab_channel=ThinkingOnPaper

Jan 15, 2025 • 42min
Book Club: Witchcraft, Bibles, and Lies—How Religious Texts Shape Reality
Have you ever considered how religious texts have shaped belief systems, power structures, and the way we perceive truth? In Chapter 4 of Yuval Noah Harari’s Nexus, we dive into the hidden mechanics of control through information systems.
Here’s what you’ll discover in this week’s Book Club:
How religions use superhuman narratives to create legitimacy and power.
Why books were revolutionary tools for controlling knowledge.
The collective delusions behind witch hunts and their modern parallels.
How the scientific method’s acceptance of human error redefined truth.
From the Oracle of Delphi to medieval witch trials, history shows that information has long been wielded as a weapon of control. Now, as we enter the AI age, the stakes are higher than ever. What do these lessons from the past mean for the future of narrative influence in a world shaped by algorithms?
Whether you’re a history buff, a critical thinker, or curious about the forces shaping human behavior, this discussion will challenge your understanding of truth, power, and storytelling in the information age.
Hit play, subscribe, and share—this conversation will change how you view the narratives shaping our world.
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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) Book Lovers
(00:32) Shakespeare
(01:53) The most important function of religion
(02:19) Upsetting the catholic church
(03:22) Fear, security and mechanisms of control
(04:28) The Big Lebowski
(05:11) God, religion and self-correcting errors
(06:26) The Oracle Of Delphi
(08:10) The Russian Doll / Telephone Game
(09:04) Bible building by committee
(11:31) The Ship Of Theseus
(13:47) The role of women in church
(15:52) Idiot Human
(17:00) Heinrich Kramer and the birth of witch hunting
(19:39) Satanic Conspiracy
(23:44) Science and the discovery of ignorance
(25:55) Parenting Lessons from science
(31:24) To understand AI, do you have to understand religion?
(35:00) Self-learning V self-correcting
(39:04) Will AI ever have EGO?
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Jan 14, 2025 • 35min
Neo AI: Solving The AI Coding Apocalypse - Saurabh and Gaurav Vij
What if the biggest challenge in AI isn’t datasets or algorithms, but the lack of talent?In a world where demand for AI solutions is skyrocketing, businesses (and now governments) are facing a critical shortage of skilled machine learning engineers. Yes, the biggest challenge in AI and machine learning today isn't data sets or training data, its a human resources problem. With only 300,000 skilled engineers globally - and only around 600 truly brilliant engineers - demand far outstrips supply.How can businesses meet the soaring demand for AI-powered solutions? With salaries for the best developers as much as €2 million per year, how can the average company keep up? Neo is the worlds first autonomous machine learning engineer. It's designed to bridge this gap by automating tedious processes and enabling engineers to focus on the more important, creative tasks downstream. You'll learn how Neo’s multi-agent system outperforms traditional workflows, why Kaggle grandmasters are the gold standard for AI expertise, and what this means for the future of work. The Vij brothers also share insights from their journeys, including the transformation of GPUs for AI and lessons from working at CERN.And because this is Thinking on Paper, you'll also get the ethical implications of hyper-intelligent systems, how automation might redefine creativity and human ingenuity and what it all means for business, culture and your day-to-day existence.Please enjoy the show. --Timestamps(00:00) Why Are There So Few Machine Learning Engineers?(01:54) Meet Gaurav Vij and Saurabh Vij(02:57) Lessons Learned from Working at CERN(04:45) How to Explain The Importance Of A.I. to Your Parents(07:24) The World’s First Autonomous Machine Learning Engineer: What AI Problem Does NEO Solve?(08:17) AI Competitions and Kaggle Grandmasters(11:06) How Many A.I./ML Engineers Do We Need?(17:30) Fixing The A.I. Hallucination Problem(18:09) Hot Buttons: 5 AI Questions In 30 Seconds(18:46) Hollywood: Doomed by A.I, or Reborn?(20:26) AI News: Nvidia Digits Explained(21:51) Moore's Law And Could AI Models Be Motivated by Rewards?(25:42) AI And Quantum Computing(29:45) The Thinking on Paper Carry-Over Question(30:16) After Hours: Backstage Extra--Check out NEO: https://heyneo.so/Learn more about the show: www.thinkingonpaper.xyzFollow Thinking On Paper On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/

Dec 16, 2024 • 56min
WeVR: Will A.I Eat Hollywood And Revolutionize Your Entertainment in 3 Years - Anthony Batt and Neville Spiteri
What will entertainment look like in just three years? Virtual reality and AI are on the brink of transforming how we create, consume, and connect through media—and the future is closer than you think.
In this episode of Thinking on Paper, Jeremy and Mark sit down with Anthony Batt and Neville Spiteri, co-founders of Wevr and pioneers in immersive technology. With decades of experience in VFX, gaming, VR, and even the early days of Craigslist, they reveal how cutting-edge innovations are reshaping entertainment and human interaction.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
How AI could fundamentally alter human perception and communication.
The technical breakthroughs required to create truly immersive digital experiences.
Why "presence" in virtual environments is critical for deeper engagement.
How VR and AI could revolutionize learning, creativity, and connection.
Wevr is at the forefront of creating transformative collective experiences, unlocking new levels of empathy, creativity, and presence through immersive design.
Whether you’re a technologist, a creative professional, or simply curious about the future of entertainment, this conversation offers a fascinating look at how VR and AI could unlock new dimensions of human potential.
Hit play, subscribe, and join the discussion—this is the future you don’t want to miss.
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TIMESTAMPS
(00:24) Craigslist
(01:58) VFX Gaming & Unreal Game Engine
(06:00) 3 Years In AI
(09:32) What Will You Be Doing With AI In 3 Years?
(13:47) Wevr: 10 Year In Emerging Technology
(14:17) The True Immersive Experience
(16:12) Collapsing Virtual Space
(18:01) When You Are Not You
(20:00) Shared Immersive Experience
(20:33) Presence: The Missing Ingredient Of Virtual Worlds
(24:27) Swimming With Whales In VR
(28:47) If We Live 300 Years, Will You Be Bored?
(31:30) The Cinematic Virtual Experience
(37:13) Storytelling Machines
(40:29) Virtual Brand World Building
(45:35) Curiosity
(48:02) Can I Be In Reservoir Dogs?
(50:11) Harry Potter: VR Modes
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Dec 11, 2024 • 36min
Book Club: Nexus, Chapter 3: Your Dreams, Songs And Fantasies - How Documents Took Over the World
Welcome to the Thinking On Paper Book Club! This week we're reading Chapter 3 of Nexus, by Yuval Noah Harari and asking how stories shape societies and how documents transform them into systems of power and control.
If you’ve ever wondered how storytelling, bureaucracy, and information networks influence the world, this discussion is for you.
We start with the shift from narratives to lists, exploring how bureaucracies emerged to organize intersubjective realities. I then ask Jeremy to discuss the evolution of human collaboration, from oral traditions to written records, and how documentation has both enabled and limited societal progress.
Are we hardwired for storytelling or bureaucracy? Is our dependence on documentation diminishing critical thinking?
Topics range from Shakespeare’s timeless works to the complexities of modern AI and misinformation. With references to Alan Watts, Kafka, and even the biology of DNA, this is a rich discussion about the systems we create—and the power they wield over our lives.
Are we shaping bureaucracy, or is it shaping us?
Please enjoy the show
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Timestamps
(00:00) Book Lovers
(00:39) William Shakespeare
(02:46) Nations Are Intersubjective Realities
(04:31) Dreams, Songs And Fantasies
(05:53) Writing As The Catalyst For Bureaucracy
(07:34) Stories Are Intersubjective Realities
(09:39) Computer Says No
(11:21) Alan Watts And A Conversation With Myself
(14:34) Are Humans Organised?
(19:30) Movies About Bureaucracy
(21:31) Emergent Systems
(24:44) Non Human Information Gets To Jeremy
(30:10) Disinformation Debunking
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Dec 10, 2024 • 56min
Factor-Fi: Is DeFi the New Wall Street? Bitcoin, Billions, and the Future of Finance - With CEO And Founder Kurapika
Is history repeating itself? DeFi (Decentralized Finance) is disrupting the financial world, offering tools that bypass traditional banking and empower users with blockchain and cryptocurrency innovations. But is it the solution we’ve been waiting for—or a hyper-complex system destined to repeat the past?
In this episode of Thinking on Paper, Jeremy and Mark are joined by Kurapika, founder of Factor-Fi, to explore:
How DeFi tools like liquidity pools, lending protocols, and smart contracts are reshaping finance.
Why Bitcoin’s rise signals a shift away from outdated systems.
How Factor-Fi bridges the gap between financial complexity and user accessibility with permissionless vaults and yield optimization.
We’re unpacking the trust, innovation, and risks of decentralized systems while asking the big question: Can DeFi deliver on its promise of financial freedom, or will it fall into the same traps as traditional finance?
Whether you’re a crypto enthusiast, a finance professional, or just DeFi-curious, this episode breaks down the essentials and explores what’s next for money in the blockchain era.
⚠️ Disclaimer: Nothing here is financial advice—this is for educational purposes only.
Hit play, subscribe, and join us as we navigate the revolution shaping the future of finance.
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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00 Disruptors And Curious Minds
(01:11) Bitcoin Serendipity
(02:29) The Complexity Of The Financial System
(03:23) Kurapika From Factor-Fi
(04:10) Is DeFi More Complex?
(07:23) The Building Lego Of Decentralized Finance
(07:54) Uniswap: Swap, Lend And Borrow
(09:01) What Are Liquidity Pools?
(14:25) The Risks Of Liquidity Pools
(16:52) Stupid Finance Question
(20:21) Undercollateralized Loans
(23:57) Soulbound Tokens, ZK-Proofs And Truth
(26:56) Creativity And Finance
(29:36) The Language Of DeFi For Normies
(33:12) Rage Against The Machine
(36:00) Factor-Fi: More Yield On Your Assets
(41:38) Blockchain Financial Security
(47:06) AI, Crypto & Finance
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Nov 29, 2024 • 58min
Book Club: Nexus, by Yuval Noah Harari - Why Fiction Drives Human Cooperation - Chapter 2
Welcome to the Thinking On Paper Book Club. We're reading Chapter 2 of Yuval Noah Harari's Nexus, and it's all about how stories influence societies, build trust, and create shared realities.
You'll learn how storytelling help humans organize, shape religions, nations, and corporations and our collective reality.
From Stalin and Jesus to Coca-Cola and Bitcoin, Mark Fielding and Jeremy Gilbertson show you why these are nothing but stories and shared reality. You'll also learn how narratives drive trust among strangers and how you can use it to unify large groups.
Guest Mustafa Quadri joins the conversation, adding fresh perspectives on the importance of stories in connecting people. We ask:
- Are nations and corporations just shared myths?
- Why do certain narratives become universally accepted?
- How do stories influence behaviour and decision-making?
📘 Grab your copy of Nexus and share your thoughts in the comments.
Please like, subscribe, and share.
And enjoy the show.
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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) Disruptors and Curious Minds
(01:55) Books And Your Thinking Space
(02:25) Dust Jacket Vote
(02:51) A Religious Disclaimer
(03:34) Mustafa On Why We Need Books
(07:53) Can We Get Yuval On The Show?
(09:21) Sapiens, Nexus And The Power Of Story
(12:00) The Last Supper
(13:02) Stories Extend Biological Bonds
(16:04) Lawyers, Guns & Money
(18:41) Inter-subjective realities
(22:13) Plato, The Nobile Lie and The 10 Commandments
(28:23) Starting A Nation
(34:25) Kung Fu Brotherhood
(42:00) Good Stories
(45:00) Do You Think Unhappiness Make You Susceptible To Story
(50:26) Different Believers
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Watch Chapter 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BhXeNQkbkY&ab_channel=WhereEmergingTechnologiesMeetHumanity
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Nov 28, 2024 • 38min
Martian: This Is How Optimizing A.I. Models Could Transform Software Development
In this episode, we get into the weeds of Martian, a novel AI routing platform designed to help developers select the most appropriate AI model—whether it’s Claude, OpenAI, or others—for specific tasks. With Martian’s innovative technology, developers can optimize AI model performance, ensuring that the best tools are used for the right job.
We explore why AI routing is poised to become the next big thing in software development, how it parallels creative fields like football and quantum pathfinding, and why balancing productivity boosts with critical thinking remains crucial in the age of AI.
All killer, no filler.
Click subscribe and enjoy the show.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Disruptors and Curious minds
(00:56) Thanksgiving For Silly English People
(02:35) Gratitude And Marketing
(03:24) Nexus, Yuval Book Club
(04:17) Use The Best AI Model For The Best Task
(06:07) Quantum, AI & Finding The Quickest Model Routers
(07:39) Artistic Vision and football creativity
(09:17) How Does Martian Choose The Right AI Model
(11:04) Pele, Messi & Beckham
(15:08) Martian AI For Developers
(17:35) AI What Is Success
(19:10) Critical Thinking Cannot Be Outsourced
(22:10) Freewill And Writing
(26:00) The Difference Between Data And Information
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Nov 21, 2024 • 39min
Book Club: Nexus, by Yuval Noah Harari - Power, Truth & Information (Why Your Reality Is Not Your Truth And Why More Information Is Bad For Society)
It's Book Club, Live! Mark Fielding and Jeremy Gilbertson are reading Yuval Noah Harari’s Nexus, trying to understand and get their heads around information networks, power, truth, reality and AI in real time. What is humanity's relationship with information? What even is information? When is a pigeon really a dove?
From ancient myths to AI, they explore how our networks of cooperation shape societies—for better or worse, according to Yuval and his book Nexus.
The book club is live and unscripted. Mark and Jeremy won't necessarily agree with Harari's provocative ideas - and certainly can't articulate like the Yuval - but it will be entertaining, insightful and leave you with a few questions of your own. And if you feel like taking it further, chapter 2 will be live next Friday. Bring your book. Join the show.
Please enjoy the show
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Timestamps
TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) - Welcome: Disruptors and Curious Minds, CEOs, Founders, and Book Lovers
(00:50) - Revisiting Previous Books in the Thinking On Paper Book Club
(01:08) - Exploring the Brief History of Information Networks
(01:33) - Debate: Dust Jackets on Books - Yes or No?
(02:40) - Insights from the Nexus Prologue
(03:08) - Is Yuval Noah Harari’s Perspective Too Dramatic?
(04:54) - The Naïve View of Information Explained
(05:58) - The Growing Spectre of Artificial Intelligence
(06:48) - Understanding Delusional Networks in Human History
(10:03) - Exploring the Relationship Between Truth, Wisdom, and Power
(13:52) - Yuval Noah Harari's Definition: What Is Information?
(16:58) - The Story of Cher Ami: Information as the Transfer of a Story
(17:36) - Most Information Does Not Represent Anything – What Does That Mean?
(19:49) - Misinformation, Disinformation, and the Dove of Peace
(21:37) - Why Truth Is Not the Same as Reality
(28:00) - Music as a Medium of Information and Communication
(29:26) - AI-Generated Art and the Importance of Micro Decisions
(31:07) - Music, Silence, and the Information You Don't Say
(34:57) - Information in the Context of Quantum Mechanics
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