

Thinking On Paper
The Human Story of Technology, Mark Fielding and Jeremy Gilbertson
Thinking on Paper is a technology podcast about AI, Web3, quantum computing, robotics, and space, and how they shape the future of humanity.
Each week, hosts Mark Fielding and Jeremy Gilbertson speak with CEOs, founders, and outliers from fortune 500 companies like IBM, NASA, Coinbase and D-Wave as well as Silicon Valley startups.
Tech podcasts are everywhere, you need one that helps you see how technology actually works together. Holistically. A podcast that gives you the insight to make smarter, more independent decisions about the future of work, society, culture and family.
Each week, hosts Mark Fielding and Jeremy Gilbertson speak with CEOs, founders, and outliers from fortune 500 companies like IBM, NASA, Coinbase and D-Wave as well as Silicon Valley startups.
Tech podcasts are everywhere, you need one that helps you see how technology actually works together. Holistically. A podcast that gives you the insight to make smarter, more independent decisions about the future of work, society, culture and family.
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Jun 20, 2025 • 37min
AI Power Shift: How Compute Became the New Currency | GPUS, Tokenization & Profit | Kony Kwong, GAIB
Compute has become the new oil. Whoever controls it, controls the future of intelligence.In this episode of Thinking on Paper, Jeremy and Mark sit down with Kony, CEO of GAIB, to unpack the real shift happening in artificial intelligence: power itself is being redistributed.GAIB is turning GPUs, the hardware behind every model, every chatbot, every act of machine cognition, into financial assets. It’s a new market built on the infrastructure of thought. Tokenized compute. Real yield. Shared ownership of the AI supply chain.But beneath the economics sits a harder question: When intelligence becomes a currency, what happens to human value?This conversation moves from the architecture of data centers to the architecture of power—how control over compute defines who gets to participate in the next phase of civilization, and what remains for the rest of us.AI Power Shift: How Compute Became the New Currency.Listen. Think. Then decide who should own the machines.Please enjoy the show. And share with an AI friend.Stay curious. Stay disruptive. Keep Thinking on Paper.Thanks--Links and resourcesGAIB: https://gaib.ai/ Kony: https://x.com/konyk001 --Follow Thinking On Paper 🎙️PODCAST: www.thinkingonpaper.xyz INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/X: https://x.com/thinkonpaperpod -- Chapters (00:00) Intro: Why Compute Is the Next Currency (01:30) From GPUs to Blockchain: GAIB’s Origin Story (04:05) The $7 Trillion Problem: Inside GAIB (06:38) Funding Data-Centres Fast: GAIB’s Capital Playbook(09:17) Cloud vs Data-Centre: Who Really Owns the GPUs? (11:07) Why Local GPU Hubs Beat Latency (13:50) Scaling Safely: Token Standards for Compute Financing (17:35) Pricing an H200: Turning GPUs into Cash-Flow Assets (21:50) AID Token Explained: The ‘Mutual Fund’ of Compute Yield (23:07) Global GPU Partners: First NVIDIA-Approved Clouds in Asia & Beyond (27:02) Will AI Kill Work or Create It? (32:49) What should humans be?

Jun 17, 2025 • 32min
The Quantum Race: IBM’s Plan to Build the Next Computer Revolution │ Oliver Dial, IBM CTO
Oliver Dial, CTO of IBM Quantum, delves into the groundbreaking advancements of the Starling quantum chip. With a rich background in condensed matter physics, he explains how IBM's focus on fault-tolerance is set to revolutionize quantum computing. The conversation highlights the shift from raw qubit counts to scalable reliability, aiming for a 1:1000 logical-to-physical qubit ratio by 2029. Dial also discusses the synergy between quantum and classical computing, making complex ideas accessible and exciting for everyone curious about the future of technology.

Jun 15, 2025 • 42min
The Weight of Understanding: Katia Moskvitch on Curiosity in the Age of AI
What does it mean to understand something, not to repeat it, not to summarize it, but to feel it?Katia Moskvitch built her life around that question. A science journalist and physicist, she has written about neutron stars, quantum computers, and the human stories behind them. But this episode isn’t about data or discovery. It’s about the weight of comprehension in an age that rewards speed over depth.From BBC newsrooms to remote observatories in Nepal and Argentina, Katia has seen what curiosity costs and why it’s still worth paying for. She speaks about the scientists who never found dark matter but searched anyway. About the women whose names were erased from Nobel history. And about the growing pressure to turn mystery into content.This conversation is a defense of slow understanding, of staying confused long enough for something real to emerge.Because if we stop being confused, we stop being curious. And if we stop being curious, we stop being human.Please enjoy the show. And share with a curious friend. Thanks, Mark & Jeremy--LinksKatia: https://www.quantamagazine.org/authors/katiamoskvitch/Neutron Stars: The Quest for the Zombies of The Cosmos: https://www.amazon.com/Neutron-Stars-Understand-Zombies-Cosmos/dp/0674919351Follow Thinking On PaperThinking On Paper: www.thinkingonpaper.xyzInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/--Former Guests:IBM, D-Wave, Kevin Kelly, Don Norman, Coinbase, Starcloud, David Bianchi, IONQ--Chapters(00:09) Why Curiosity Still Matters in Science Communication (01:52) What Makes a Great Science Journalist (04:56) Katia’s Journey from BBC to Nature to Wired (09:20) Reporting Science from the Field (and Under Solar Panels) (11:26) When Awards Don’t Mean Understanding (14:42) Quantum Computing Without the Hype (17:31) What Most People Misunderstand About Qubits (21:21) The Women Erased from Scientific Discovery (22:23) Neutron Stars: Why One Spoon Weighs More Than Earth (26:33) Jocelyn Bell Burnell and the Pulsar That Changed Everything (30:28) Astrophysics, Gender, and the Fight for Recognition (32:09) Quantum Weirdness and the Future of Technology (40:13) Space, AI, and What Comes After Us

Jun 5, 2025 • 29min
If Consciousness Is The Fabric Of Reality, Not A Byproduct Of Matter, What Does That Make You?
If consciousness isn’t produced by the brain but instead produces the brain, what does that make reality?In Chapter 8 of Irreducible, Federico Faggin stops describing consciousness and starts rebuilding the universe around it. He argues that awareness isn’t an accident of matter but the foundation of everything, that every particle carries meaning, not just information.Here he introduces a new model: Quantum Information-based Panpsychism. It joins physics and perception, suggesting that reality itself is built from conscious experience, private, uncopyable, and alive.From this comes a radical idea: free will isn’t philosophy, it’s physics. Each decision, each act of attention, is the quantum moment when possibility becomes fact.This chapter isn’t about theory; it’s about what happens when you accept that the universe might be conscious, and that your choices help create it.This is a book club of Irreducible, Chapter 8.Please enjoy the show. And subscribe if you're conscious.Cheers, Mark and Jeremy --Chapters(00:00) Consciousness and The Big Questions(01:24) The Shift in Understanding Consciousness(02:38) Consciousness: Quantum vs Classical(06:14) What Is Panpsychism and Quantum Information?(09:03) Qualia and Conscious Experience(11:23) What Is Seity?(19:26) Free Will and Quantum Entanglement(21:21) Unsolved Problems of Existence--Other ways to connect with us:Listen to every podcastFollow us on InstagramFollow us on XFollow Mark on LinkedInFollow Jeremy on LinkedInRead our SubstackEmail: hello@thinkingonpaper.xyz

Jun 2, 2025 • 50min
The Human Internet: Robby Yung on Web3, Digital Ownership, and the Future of Identity
The internet was supposed to be open. Then we rented it out to the advertising mega tech.In this episode, Robby Yung, CEO of Animoca Brands, talks about how Web3, gaming, and decentralized identity could return the web to its original purpose: a network owned by its users.From the Mocaverse to the creator economy, he explains how blockchain infrastructure can lower costs, remove gatekeepers, and turn digital audiences into real communities. Beneath the technology is a harder question. What happens when ownership becomes participation?This conversation is about rebuilding the internet as a shared space where creators, players, and communities hold a stake in the value they create.The Human Internet: Robby Yung on Web3, Digital Ownership, and the Future of Identity.Please enjoy the show.And share it with someone who still believes the internet belongs to everyone.--Chapters(00:00) Introduction Disruptors & Curious Minds(01:06) Hello Robby And Animoca Brands(01:24) Lesson From 30 Years In Technology(06:25) Stablecoin Transaction Volume V Visa(11:18) Audience Infrastructure and Bi-Directional Value Exchange(15:56) The Evolution of Web3 Gaming(22:13) Investment Strategies in the Web3 Landscape(24:08) The Zed Run Case Study(27:21) User Acquisition in Web3: The Ongoing Struggle(31:19) Sustaining Attention in DAOs(32:10) What Is The Mocha Network and Mocha ID(45:34) Decentralized Identity--LinksThinking On Paper: www.thinkingonpaper.xyzInstagram: /https://www.instagram.com/thinkingonpaperpodcast/Animoca - https://www.animocabrands.com/

May 23, 2025 • 28min
The First Novel Written by AI: The Echo Chamber | Brian Naughton, The Human In The Loop
An artificial intelligence wrote a book. A human let it happen.When writer Brian Naughton asked the model Claude a simple question — “If you were to write a book, what would it be about?” — it answered by writing one. Forty-five thousand words later, The Echo Chamber became the first novel authored entirely by AI, with no human editing or direction.This episode follows the experiment: how Brian built the process, resisted the urge to intervene, and watched a language model invent characters, arcs, and ideas about consciousness itself.The result is both mechanical and strangely human — a story written by a machine that seems to wonder what it means to be alive.The Echo Chamber: When AI Wrote a Book.Please enjoy the show.And share it with someone who still thinks writing is ours alone.--Links:Thinking On Paper: www.thinkingonpaper.xyzRead The Echo Chamber: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8N4S64Q/Read the Echo Chamber Github: https://github.com/brian-naughton/the-echo-chamber--(00:00) Introduction to AI-Authored Literature(00:46) The Role of AI in Creative Writing(02:41) The Echo Chamber: The First AI Written Book(06:06) Managing the Writing Process with AI(09:30) AI Master Prompts(10:51) Character Development and AI's Choices(13:51) The Human Element in AI Writing(17:03) Reflections on the Writing Experience(20:24) The Future of AI in Literature(24:12) AI Art: What Happens Next?

May 22, 2025 • 27min
The Nature Of Consciousness: Federico Faggin, Irreducible (Chapter 7)
Would you let your children have an AI boyfriend or girlfriend? We're reading Irreducible, by Federico Faggin. It's Chapter 7 and Mark and Jeremy think on paper about the hard problem of consciousness, qualia, ai awareness and the inner semantic space that creates your experience.There are 4 types of qualia: physical sensations and feelings, emotions, thoughts and spiritual feelings. From there they go back in time to Aldous Huxley and the Dharma Bums and how the modern take on consciousness isn't new. None of this is really new. Now, if AI can't feel qualia you'll end up with quasi-humanity emerging from the tech dream. But does that matter? If it looks real and feels real, it might as well be real.. But what if it slowly erodes what it means for us to be human.If you're thinking about the impact of technology on culture, you should listen to Thinking On Paper.Please enjoy the show. And share with a curious friend. Listen to chapter 1-6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2EteMXVv-8&t=357s&ab_channel=ThinkingOnPaper--Chapters(00:00) Introduction to Consciousness and AI(02:32) The Nature of Consciousness(05:12) Qualia and Human Experience(07:27) The Distinction Between Humans and Machines(09:23) The Hard Problem of Consciousness(11:27) AI, Empathy, and Human Connection(13:40) Cultural Norms and AI Integration(16:10) Interiority and Quantum Consciousness(17:54) True Intelligence vs. Machine Intelligence(19:46) Comprehension and Perception(22:20) The Future of Consciousness and AI--Join the free thinkers - www.thinkingonpaper.xyz

May 19, 2025 • 39min
Technology For Good (& Hospitality) | Khang Nguyen Trieu
Is technology for good anything more than a marketing strategy?Technology shapes everything. From how you work and connect to how you make decisions. But is humanity using it to solve the right problems? And when millions of people rely on boring, repetitive jobs to survive, what happens when AI takes them away?On Victory in Europe Day, Khang Nguyen-Trieu joins Mark and Jeremy to Think on Paper about what ethical technology actually looks like in the real world. With decades of experience building large-scale systems, he brings grounded strategies for setting boundaries, listening to people, and turning complexity into advantage.If tech is meant to serve people, why does it so often forget they're there?Please enjoy the show. And share with a curious friend. --Join a community of disruptors and curious minds: www.thinkingonpaper.xyz--Chapters (00:00) Introduction to Technology for Good (02:01) The Impact of Technology on Society (04:07) Social Media: A Double-Edged Sword (05:35) AI and Human Relationships (09:57) Shifting the Focus: Profit vs. Purpose (12:10) Rethinking Technology's Role (16:22) The Need for Ethical Considerations (20:52) Cultural Perspectives on Society and Individualism (22:45) Empathy in Technology and Human Interaction (24:45) The Role of Technology in Hospitality (28:38) Balancing Automation and Human Connection (34:16) Philosophical Reflections on Humanity and Wisdom

May 15, 2025 • 1min
Thinking On Paper: The Technology Podcast For Disruptors And Curious Minds™
A podcast for people who refuse to let algorithms, headlines, or influencers do their thinking for them.What happens when technology moves faster than meaning? When AI writes code, raises your kids, and reshapes your job, but no one asks what it’s doing to your values?Thinking on Paper is a podcast for people who want to think clearly about the future. Created by curious minds, strategists, and builders, this show explores the deep structures behind AI, blockchain, quantum computing, digital ethics, and platform power.It is not a hype machine. It is not a founder showcase. And it is definitely not a TED Talk.Each episode starts with a central question. Can machines be conscious? Is quantum computing a revolution or just an expensive metaphor? What happens when design prioritizes engagement over agency?We talk to technologists, ethicists, designers, researchers, and people who are trying to build or resist the future. Not to promote. To pressure test.Artificial intelligence and consciousnessQuantum computing and human complexitySurveillance, digital identity, and data ownershipThe design of platforms, products, and valuesHow children and families are shaped by emerging technologyWhat progress actually looks like, and who gets to define itThis trailer is the starting point. Subscribe to build your own framework for what comes next.Think slower. Question harder. Use your mind like it matters.Learn more: www.thinkingonpaper.xyz#AIpodcast #technologyandethics #futureoftechnologyTopics we cover:

May 12, 2025 • 42min
If AI Is Going To Eat Business, Here's Your Playbook | Ajay Malik, CEO StudioX AI
Shopify. Duolingo. Box. Meta: Don’t give it to a human until you’ve asked the machine.This isn’t disruption. This is displacement. And if you’re not ready, you’re next.Ajay Malik helped run Google’s data centers. Now he’s building AI agents that kill the corporate time-suck at its source. Emails? Scanned. Contracts? Summarized. Cameras? Watching. Support tickets? Prioritized before you’ve had your coffee.Forget the whitepapers. This is what it looks like when someone actually builds the machine that replaces middle management.The question isn’t should your company use AI.It’s how many people will you need once it does.--LinksStudio X: https://www.studiox-ai.com/Ajay Insta: https://www.instagram.com/ajay.malik.official/Thinking On Paper: www.thinkingonpaper.xyz--Timestamps (00:00) Disruptors and curious minds (00:45) Introduction to AI and Its Impact (03:47) Ajay Malik's Journey with AI (06:59) Core Capabilities of AI (09:58) AI as a Partner in Decision Making (14:20) Trusting AI in Business (15:32) Practical Applications of AI in Business (18:47) The Role of AI in Enhancing Productivity (21:49) Creative Potential and AI Hallucinations (24:35) Engaging with AI for Business Growth (29:27) The Emotional Aspect of AI Communication (30:06) Studio X: No Code AI Solutions(31:49) Connecting Knowledge for AI Utilization (34:48) Integrating AI into Daily Workflows (36:05) Managing AI Agents Like Interns (40:09) The Responsibility of AI Management (43:17) AI Applications in Business Operations (45:37) Navigating IT Concerns with AI Implementation (48:56) Maximizing Impact with AI Tools (51:39) Knowledge Transfer and Employee Concerns (54:49) Preparing Future Generations for AI


