
Thinking On Paper: A Technology Podcast For Curious Minds
Hosted by Mark and Jeremy, Thinking On Paper is a weekly conversation asking the big questions:
What kind of world are we building?
What does it mean to stay human in the age Of AI?
How do we raise kids who can think critically and stay curious?
Grab a front-row seat as CEOs, founders, outliers and artists unpack the “why” behind everything from AI and quantum computing to space manufacturing, bio-engineering and clean energy.
New conversations every Thursday • Book Club episodes every Monday
Follow now and slow down the future.
Latest episodes

Apr 21, 2023 • 52min
NeTiZens, Virtual Fashion and The METAVERSE of Tomorrow
Humanity is a technological species!
The metaverse is going to redefine what it means to be human.
This weeks show with Netizens founder, futurist and author COSTANTINO ROSELLI is a deep, philosophical and important conversation about the metaverse of today Verses the metaverse of the future and the steps we need to take to get there.
The virtual world that is really the extension of the human condition and at the moment, we're not thinking about it in the right way.
If you're interested in virtual fashion and identity and community and co-creation and avatars and brand ideology... You've come to the right place.
When Virtual fashion and the METAVERSE combine in the right way, there are going to be cultural fireworks.
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Hello
1:58 Costantino Roselli
2:57 Virtual Fashion In The Metaverse
3:12 History Of Virtual Fashion
4:38 Fashion As Persona
9:36 Your Avatar(s)
12:00 Boring Metaverse!
18:06 The Importance Of Art
20:07 Metaverse Culture
22:43 You Asked For The Machine
25:37 How Brands Can Win In Metaverse
29:07 Experience
33:55 Tribal Community
40:11 Hierarchical V Emergent Brands
43:50 Generation Alpha Metaverse
QUESTIONS ASKED:
🤔 Why are so many metaverse platforms so boring and how vision, creativity and thinking of them as impossible worlds can make them a more immersive and engaging experience.
🤔 What are the pillars brands can use to WIN in the #metaverse?
🤔 What will the metaverse be like in 100, 200, 1000 years?
🤔 Fashion shapes culture, how does virtual fashion shape culture?
🤔 What are Netizens?
🤔 What about Generation ALPHA?
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ABOUT COSTANTINO ROSELLI
If J.K. Rowling and Sherlock Holmes had a child, it would be Costantino Roselli. He combines elements nobody sees, raises brand identities you never thought were there, and creates brand stories people are dying to hear.
LinkedIn ranked him in the top 1% of people in the Marketing industry.
“My bestseller proves only that today someone with zero budget, and understanding how the connection economy works, can beat the system.”
Costantino is behind the success of many known brands and products that you might be wearing, holding in your hand, using in your daily life, or parking in your garage.
He holds two masters in Digital Marketing and Leadership, a Diploma in Management of Arts, Culture & Communication, a bachelor's in Computer Science, and over 21 certificates in Future Thinking, Gamification, Storytelling, Brand Management, Fashion & Luxury Management, Communication, Growth Hacking Marketing, Human Psychology, and Human-Technology Interaction.
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⛓️ 🔗 Resources And Links From The Show🔗 ⛓️
NTZNS (NETIZENS) 👉 https://ntzns.com/
NTZN INSTA 👉https://www.instagram.com/ntznsworld/
OPENSEA 👉https://opensea.io/ntzns
TWITTER 👉 https://twitter.com/ntznsworld
COSTANTINO ROSELLI 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/in/costantin...
⛓️ 🔗 Contact Mark And Jeremy And Thinking On Paper 🔗 ⛓️
🔥Thinking ON Paper Website - http://www.thinkingonpaper.xyz/
🔥Mark LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/markfield...
🔥Jeremy LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremygil...

Apr 14, 2023 • 46min
Hybrid Entertainment and The Future of Storytelling
Mark and Jeremy speak to John Evershed about the past, present and future of storytelling, multi-media, entertainment and hybrid filmmaking. The conversation covers artificial intelligence, animation, Unreal Engine, the democratization of the tools, Netflix, YouTube, Streaming, the golden age of television and much much more.
Enjoy.
ABOUT JOHN EVERSHED
John is an TV entrepreneur, executive producer, and advisor for multiple entertainment and digital media companies and projects.
As the former CEO of Mondo, I EP'd an award-winning library, launched and programmed a branded OTT adult animation channel on WarnerMedia's VRV platform, generated 13.6 billion watch minutes on YouTube, and produced multiple #TV series that aired on MTV, Adult Swim and Fusion. Expert in raising equity, project financing and development, international co-productions, and merchandising. Led a 150 person animation studio. Evershed is the author of "The Adult Animation White Paper."
He is currently CSO at Trioscope, Inc. a studio with a proprietary technology for the creation of TV series and movies.
ABOUT TRIOSCOPE
Trioscope produced "The Liberator" for Netflix and just wrapped a production on a George RR Martin ("Game of Thrones" creator) project

Apr 14, 2023 • 46min
NFT Ticketing and The Future of Music
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You've been asking this question for a long time on: Are NFT tickets the future link between musicians, bands, artists sports teams and their fans?
🎸 We all have our opinions.
To get the real answer, Jeremy and Mark speak to Josh Katz, founder of @yellowheart6845 an NFT ticketing platform that empowers fans, artists, and sports teams.
If you're not familiar with YellowHeart, I'm sorry but you haven't been paying attention to the NFT ticketing landscape. But that is why you're here.
Their #web3 ticketing platform has been featured in CoinTelegraph, Business Insider, Bilboard and Variety.
Do you remember the Kings of Leon NFT from 2021? YellowHeart advised the band’s team, built the NFTs and orchestrated the drop.
It raised $2 million, $500,000 of which the band donated to charity.
But what it really did was open the floodgates.
Come and learn more.
"Utilizing the latest and greatest in Web3 technology, their team of industry experts works with you to build long-lasting and engaged fan communities, collect revenue on secondary sales of tickets & collectibles."
Chapters:
0:00 Welcome
0:55 Mark's Ticket Collection
2:08 Josh Katz Background
2:48 DJs And Licensed Music
3:05 Brands & Elevator Music
4:49 DJ's & Culture
6:15 Royalties & Smart Contracts
6:48 Phish & The Secondary Ticket Market
9:25 Ethereum Meetups 2017
12:35 Kings Of Leon NFT
17:58 Ticketing Black Market
21:55 Yellowheart NFT Ticketing
25:55 NFT Ticket Stubs
27:20 Fan Artist Relationships
31:15 What's In It For Concert Venues?
36:06 Bands Using The Tech
41:15 A CTA For Fans
43:31 Tech Saving Us From Tech

Apr 14, 2023 • 55min
Corrales Cachola: This Is How You Define Your Web3 Mission, Vision And Values On The Human Blockchain
Mark and Jeremy speak with special guest Corrales Cachola. Marketer, NFT Consultant, storyteller, thinker and culture wizard, Corrales is the leading voice in the Human BLOCKCHAIN.
🤔 What is the HUMAN BLOCKCHAIN?
🤔 How do you create and nurture CULTURE?
🤔 How do you find and maximize your story?
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 30-day NFT Challenge
1:58 Welcome Corrales
3:20 The HUMAN BLOCKCHAIN
6:58 Culture & NFT Utility
10:39 Tech & Emergent Systems
14:35 Jeremy On Grounding
20:37 Defining Your Web3 Mission, Vision & Values
29:58 What Is Brand New Voices?
35:19 Web3 As Empowerment
40:53 Decentralization V Private Blockchains
46:43 The Science Of Storytelling
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⛓️ 🔗 Resources And Links From The Show🔗 ⛓️
Corrales LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandnewv...
BrandNewVoices 👉https://brandnewvoices.xyz/
The Science Of Storytelling 👉 • The Science of St...
Wired For Story 👉 https://www.amazon.fr/Wired-Story-Wri...
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⛓️ 🔗 Contact Mark And Jeremy And Thinking On Paper 🔗 ⛓️
🔥Thinking ON Paper Website - http://www.thinkingonpaper.xyz/
🔥Mark LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/markfield...
🔥Jeremy LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremygil...
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Here's a recent thought from Corrales for you to take home -
"Without culture and human connectivity as web3’s primary drivers, there is nothing but cold technology bereft of meaningful progress. #blockchain itself is an essential component of emotional and spiritual human development acting more as a cultural vessel for connectivity and less as a high speed network to transact data."
#web3 #nftcommunity #emergingtech