Michael Patrick Hearn, a leading expert on L. Frank Baum and W.W. Denslow, shares fascinating insights into the origins of The Wizard of Oz. He reveals how Baum, often failing in his many careers, ultimately created a legendary story that transformed children's literature. The dynamic yet tumultuous partnership with illustrator Denslow is explored, alongside the surprising journey of a Soviet adaptation that reimagined the tale. Hearn also discusses the cultural significance of Oz and its lasting impact across generations.

Mark Waid, a comic book writer famed for his work on Marvel's Fantastic Four, discusses the deep psychological layers of Doctor Doom. Brian Michael Bendis, known for his role in creating Miles Morales, explores Doom's potential for heroism. Ryan North, the current writer of the Fantastic Four, analyzes Doom's complicated relationship with Reed Richards. Cultural critic Mark Hibbett examines how Doom reflects America's stance on dictators and political intervention, revealing the character’s connection to systemic oppression and moral ambiguity.

In this engaging discussion, Robin Means Coleman, a media studies professor, delves into race and gender in horror, coining the term 'Enduring Women' for Final Girls. Cultural critic Jenika McCrayer analyzes the modern evolution of these characters, highlighting their diversity and complexity. Morgan Podraza shares insights on Jamie Lee Curtis's transformative role in the Halloween franchise, exploring how trauma shapes the Final Girl experience. Together, they unravel the layers of resilience, representation, and cultural shifts in the horror genre.

In this discussion, astrobiologist Michael Wong, who studies life detection on exoplanets, joins biologist Mohamed Noor, a science advisor for Star Trek Discovery. They delve into how Star Trek shapes the scientific exploration of extraterrestrial life. Jaime Green, a science journalist and author, adds to the conversation by exploring the influence of science fiction on actual astrobiological inquiry. They tackle topics like directed panspermia, the concept of alien evolution, and the ethical challenges posed by potential first contact with radically different life forms.

I'm excited to announce that we're starting a new Patreon-only ad-free show called Between Imaginary Worlds, which is a more casual chat show format. In each episode, I talk with different people about what they're excited about in sci-fi fantasy, what they're looking forward to, pet peeves and a lot more.Between Imaginary Worlds is available to people pledging $10 a month or more on Patreon. New episodes appear in between regular episodes of the show in the ad-free feed that comes with a Level 3 or Level 4 Patreon subscription. You can also listen to Between Imaginary Worlds directly on the show’s Patreon page. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joseph Krauter, a formerly incarcerated individual, and David Annarelli, currently incarcerated, discuss the profound impact of role-playing games on mental health and personal development in prison. They share innovative methods they use to create gaming materials from everyday objects. The conversation touches on the therapeutic escape that games like Dungeons & Dragons provide and the challenges posed by censorship in the prison system. Their insights illuminate the power of creativity and connection in overcoming the harsh realities of incarceration.

In the second part of our retrospective on how Imaginary Worlds has covered sci-fi and fantasy since September 2014, we look at the world of gaming. I visit the game shop Sip & Play and talk with the owner Jonathan Li. Game designer and cultural consultant James Mendez Hodes returns to discuss the affect Stranger Things and Critical Role have had on the popularity of D&D, and why the last decade has been a golden age of indie tabletop games. Illinois Tech professors Carly Kocurek and Jennifer deWinter discuss the breakout video games in the last 10 years, and why it’s harder for indie video games to have the same success as indie board games.This week’s episode is sponsored by GreenChef, ShipStation and Hims. Go to greenchef.com/imaginaryclass for 50% off your first box and 50 free credits with ClassPass Go to shipstation.com and use the code “Imaginary” to sign up for your free 60-day trial. Start your free online visit today at hims.com/imaginary. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The host reflects on a decade of growth, shifting from blockbuster movies to a deeper understanding of fantasy and sci-fi. Insights from journalist Rob Salkowitz and editor Diana M. Pho reveal the evolution of superhero cinema and its impact on audiences. The discussion highlights the transformation of comic conventions and rising diversity among attendees and creators. Cozy sci-fi and Solarpunk literature emerge as beacons of hope during tough times, while the surge in speculative fiction captivates a younger generation, reshaping the publishing landscape.

David and Lisa Spira, co-founders of Escape Room Artist and hosts of the Reality Escape Pod, discuss the captivating evolution of escape rooms into sophisticated theatrical experiences. They explore how immersive elements elevate storytelling, using examples like the haunted Ghost Light escape room and a Houdini-themed séance room. The duo emphasizes the necessity of unique puzzles and emotional engagement to enhance player experiences, showcasing the powerful fusion of immersive theater and escape fun.

Join audiobook narrators John Pirhalla, Luke Daniels, Amy Landon, and Heath Miller as they dive into the art of bringing sci-fi and fantasy characters to life. They discuss the challenges of voicing non-human characters and juggling multiple accents. The narrators share insights on making dense worldbuilding accessible and the nuances of voicing game mechanics in Lit RPGs. They also confront the looming threat of AI and voice cloning, emphasizing the irreplaceable emotional depth a human narrator brings to storytelling.