Pavel Douglas and James Brown, former agents in the MI6 program portraying James Bond, offer an insider's view into the iconic character's legacy. They discuss the intriguing theory that Bond is a codename, diving into the evolution of the character across generations. The conversation touches on the blend of real-world espionage challenges and the glamorous Bond persona. They share humorous anecdotes from their unique experiences, revealing the personal sacrifices of being 007 and exploring how the role reflects shifting societal norms.

The Penguin series on HBO and Max has been one of the most critically acclaimed comic book-based TV shows in years. Much of the praise has gone towards actors like Colin Farrell, who plays the classic Batman villain. But the makeup and prosthetics designer Mike Marino has been singled out for his innovative and striking design of the main character. Mike sculpted an entire head and body for The Penguin, a.k.a. Oz Cobb, that obscured most of Colin Farrell while also liberating the actor to inhabit a role he might otherwise not have been cast. Mike and I go deep into his creative process working with Farrell and the director/producer Matt Reeves on The Batman film and the spin-off show The Penguin. We also talk about Mike’s mentors in the field like Dick Smith and Rick Baker, who created some of the most iconic makeup designs in cinema history.This week’s episode is brought to you by Sol Reader and ShipStation Go to solreader.com to and use the code IMAGINARY at checkout to receive 15% off your purchase of Sol Reader Limited Edition. Go to shipstation.com and use the code IMAGINARY to sign up for your FREE 60-day trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michael Patrick Hearn, a leading expert on L. Frank Baum and W.W. Denslow, shares fascinating insights into the origins of The Wizard of Oz. He reveals how Baum, often failing in his many careers, ultimately created a legendary story that transformed children's literature. The dynamic yet tumultuous partnership with illustrator Denslow is explored, alongside the surprising journey of a Soviet adaptation that reimagined the tale. Hearn also discusses the cultural significance of Oz and its lasting impact across generations.

Mark Waid, a comic book writer famed for his work on Marvel's Fantastic Four, discusses the deep psychological layers of Doctor Doom. Brian Michael Bendis, known for his role in creating Miles Morales, explores Doom's potential for heroism. Ryan North, the current writer of the Fantastic Four, analyzes Doom's complicated relationship with Reed Richards. Cultural critic Mark Hibbett examines how Doom reflects America's stance on dictators and political intervention, revealing the character’s connection to systemic oppression and moral ambiguity.

In this engaging discussion, Robin Means Coleman, a media studies professor, delves into race and gender in horror, coining the term 'Enduring Women' for Final Girls. Cultural critic Jenika McCrayer analyzes the modern evolution of these characters, highlighting their diversity and complexity. Morgan Podraza shares insights on Jamie Lee Curtis's transformative role in the Halloween franchise, exploring how trauma shapes the Final Girl experience. Together, they unravel the layers of resilience, representation, and cultural shifts in the horror genre.

In this discussion, astrobiologist Michael Wong, who studies life detection on exoplanets, joins biologist Mohamed Noor, a science advisor for Star Trek Discovery. They delve into how Star Trek shapes the scientific exploration of extraterrestrial life. Jaime Green, a science journalist and author, adds to the conversation by exploring the influence of science fiction on actual astrobiological inquiry. They tackle topics like directed panspermia, the concept of alien evolution, and the ethical challenges posed by potential first contact with radically different life forms.

I'm excited to announce that we're starting a new Patreon-only ad-free show called Between Imaginary Worlds, which is a more casual chat show format. In each episode, I talk with different people about what they're excited about in sci-fi fantasy, what they're looking forward to, pet peeves and a lot more.Between Imaginary Worlds is available to people pledging $10 a month or more on Patreon. New episodes appear in between regular episodes of the show in the ad-free feed that comes with a Level 3 or Level 4 Patreon subscription. You can also listen to Between Imaginary Worlds directly on the show’s Patreon page. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joseph Krauter, a formerly incarcerated individual, and David Annarelli, currently incarcerated, discuss the profound impact of role-playing games on mental health and personal development in prison. They share innovative methods they use to create gaming materials from everyday objects. The conversation touches on the therapeutic escape that games like Dungeons & Dragons provide and the challenges posed by censorship in the prison system. Their insights illuminate the power of creativity and connection in overcoming the harsh realities of incarceration.

In the second part of our retrospective on how Imaginary Worlds has covered sci-fi and fantasy since September 2014, we look at the world of gaming. I visit the game shop Sip & Play and talk with the owner Jonathan Li. Game designer and cultural consultant James Mendez Hodes returns to discuss the affect Stranger Things and Critical Role have had on the popularity of D&D, and why the last decade has been a golden age of indie tabletop games. Illinois Tech professors Carly Kocurek and Jennifer deWinter discuss the breakout video games in the last 10 years, and why it’s harder for indie video games to have the same success as indie board games.This week’s episode is sponsored by GreenChef, ShipStation and Hims. Go to greenchef.com/imaginaryclass for 50% off your first box and 50 free credits with ClassPass Go to shipstation.com and use the code “Imaginary” to sign up for your free 60-day trial. Start your free online visit today at hims.com/imaginary. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The host reflects on a decade of growth, shifting from blockbuster movies to a deeper understanding of fantasy and sci-fi. Insights from journalist Rob Salkowitz and editor Diana M. Pho reveal the evolution of superhero cinema and its impact on audiences. The discussion highlights the transformation of comic conventions and rising diversity among attendees and creators. Cozy sci-fi and Solarpunk literature emerge as beacons of hope during tough times, while the surge in speculative fiction captivates a younger generation, reshaping the publishing landscape.