Imaginary Worlds

The production design of the film Fantastic Four: First Steps is an homage to the early ‘60s comics created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. While Kirby is best known for his bold, fist-popping drawing style, he was also a great storyteller who redefined what comic books could be. He was appreciated by hardcore fans at the time, but he never got the same media attention as Stan Lee and wasn't compensated for the fortunes his characters made. I talk with Kirby experts Charles Hatfield, Mark Evanier, Randolph Hoppe, and Arlen Schumer about where we can see Jack Kirby's influence on comics like The Fantastic Four, Thor, The Hulk, Captain America and Black Panther. And I explore Kirby's childhood at the Tenement Museum on the Lower East Side, where every day was “clobberin’ time,”and he first learned how to use a garbage can lid as a shield. This week’s episode is sponsored by ButcherBox, Hims and ShipStation. ButcherBox is offering our listeners $20 off their first box and free protein for a year. Go to ButcherBox.com/imaginary to get this limited time offer and free shipping always. Start your free online visit today at Hims.com/IMAGINARY Go to shipstation.com and use the code IMAGINARY to sign up for a free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Arvind Ethan David, a writer and producer known for his adaptation of Douglas Adams's work, shares insights about the legendary author. He recounts his unexpected encounter with Adams during a school play adaptation. The discussion touches on the release of his new audiobook, featuring archival audio and reflections from Adams's associates. Arvind highlights Adams's unique blend of comedy and social commentary, his reluctance to be labeled a sci-fi writer, and the lasting influence of his work on storytelling and technology.

Craig Silverstein, the showrunner of the animated series Pantheon, and Ken Liu, the author behind its source material, explore the tantalizing concept of a digital afterlife. They discuss how mind uploading challenges our understanding of humanity and identity. The duo dives into the show's journey from a collection of stories to a cohesive narrative. They also shed light on the societal implications of consciousness replication and the emotional complexities tied to digital immortality, raising questions about love, relationships, and what it means to be human.

Martha Wells, the author behind The Murderbot Diaries, discusses the challenges of adapting her hit series into a TV show starring Alexander Skarsgård. She dives into the complexities of her rogue cyborg protagonist and its love for intergalactic soap operas over social interactions. The conversation touches on themes of identity, autonomy, and the balance of humor and action in the adaptation process. They also explore the representation of non-binary characters and the nuances of writing complex emotions in a sci-fi setting.

Next year marks the 60th anniversary of Dark Shadows. The gothic soap opera wasn’t originally intended to include a vampire, but when creator Dan Curtis introduced the character of Barnabas Collins in a last-ditch effort to avoid cancellation, he inadvertently launched a cultural phenomenon. As portrayed by actor Jonathan Frid, the character of Barnabas sparked a never-ending debate among horror fans as to whether vampires should be depicted as pure predators or tragic, misunderstood outcasts. I talk with Danielle Gelehrter (host of the podcast Terror at Collinwood) and authors Mark Dawidziak and Jeff Thompson about why the show had a meteoric rise and fall, what the series reflected about the 1960s, and whether Dark Shadows can have eternal life as a form of IP. This week’s episode is sponsored by Hims and Remi Get your free online visit at hims.com/IMAGINARY. Go to shopremi.com/IMAGINARY and use the code IMAGINARY to save up to 50%. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Lily Andrick, a transgender horror fan, shares her personal connection to body horror and how it resonates with her experiences. The discussion delves into the psychological complexities of the genre, exploring the feelings of repulsion and fascination it evokes. Lily highlights how body horror reflects societal pressures and personal traumas, particularly for marginalized identities. The conversation also touches on the resurgence of body horror in contemporary media and its potential for empowerment and social commentary, making it a deeply insightful and thought-provoking dialogue.

Last week, we heard about a new exhibit in New York called Syd Mead: Future Pastime. The exhibit closes on May 21st, and I know most listeners won't be able to see it in person. So in this bonus episode, you can hear the entire tour I got from Elon Solo and William Corman, who organized the exhibit. You can also see some of the images on the Imaginary Worlds Instagram and Facebook pages. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The late Syd Mead was a visual futurist who was hired to imagine the worlds of Blade Runner, Tron, Aliens, Elysium and other sci-fi films. His work in Hollywood has been lauded for decades, but there’s a new exhibit in New York that shows a different side of the artist. Syd Mead: Future Pastime is a collection of his personal and commercial paintings, which are all works of science fiction. Despite his connection to the dystopian world of Blade Runner, Mead’s personal vision of the future was unwaveringly optimistic. I talk with Mead’s husband and business partner Roger Servick, and the curators of the exhibit, Elon Solo and William Corman, about Mead’s predictions for the future of technology, sexuality and spirituality. (Image courtesy of Syd Mead Inc.)This week’s episode is sponsored by ShipStation and Hims Go to shipstation.com and use the code IMAGINARY to sign up for a free trial. Get your free online visit at hims.com/IMAGINARY. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this engaging conversation, Jess Deaver, an architect and professor at Texas Tech, reveals how science fiction fuels innovative and empathetic design in her students. Liam Young, a designer and filmmaker from SciArc, shares his vision for training architects to craft immersive worlds in film and games. They discuss the shifting perspectives on utopia, the role of architecture in a changing climate, and even ponder the feasibility of floating cities. Together, they inspire a hopeful outlook on future urban landscapes through creativity and imagination.

Mindy Johnson, an author and animation historian known for her focus on women in Walt Disney Animation, joins Gabrielle Stecker, an English professor who analyzes Mary Blair's legacy. They discuss Blair's transformative impact on Disney, breaking traditional design norms with her bold, modernist style. The conversation dives into Blair's struggles in a male-dominated industry, her artistic evolution, and the complexities of her legacy, including both her vibrant works and the darker themes in some of her projects.