
Beyond The Mask: Innovation & Opportunities For CRNAs
A podcast for the CRNA industry. Discussing the important issues that happen both in, and beyond, the operating room. With Sharon Pearce, DNP, CRNA, FAANA, FAAN and Jeremy Stanley, EA, CFP, AIF. Innovations & opportunities for CRNAs & APRNs. Visit our website for more great information https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ and to learn how you can get CE Credit as a CRNA just by listening to the podcast. Don’t miss our special series on CRNA History, CRNA Personal Finance & Retirement, Political Conversations, CRNA Career Issues, and our leadership series called Courage To Lead. Check out new episodes of Beyond The Mask every week with distinguished guests from the CRNA community... #anesthesiology #rn #surgery #healthcare #nurseanesthesiologist #crnaschool #nursing #srnalife #nurselife #nursingstudent #ornurse #nurseanesthesia #crnalife #nursepractitioner #medschool #anesthesialife #scrublife #icunurse #hospital #futurecrna #medical #crna #nurse #anesthesia #srna #nurseanesthetist #nurses #surgical #operatingtheatre #medicalstudent #operatingroomnurse #studentnurse #diversitycrna #ccrn #nursepractitioner #APRN #APRNchat #NPchat #midwife #NP
Latest episodes

Dec 3, 2020 • 39min
Ep 105: Nursing, Policy and Politics with Minnesota State Senator Erin Murphy, RN
As we’ve learned in 2020, having more nurses in leadership and decision-making positions would benefit the entire country greatly. One nurse that’s embracing their power to bring change is Erin Murphy, RN. After years in the nursing profession, she transitioned into politics 15 years ago and served as a state representative for more than a decade, became the first nurse to run for governor, and recently became a Minnesota State Senator in 2020. Listen as she shares her experience, the role of nurses in politics, and her ideas for getting more people involved.
Read more about the show: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-105-nursing-policy-and-politics-with-minnesota-state-senator-erin-murphy/2731/
About our guest: https://www.murphyfor64.com/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this show:
1:49 – Welcome in, Erin
2:52 – Background on Erin
5:00 – Her experience in politics
9:42 – Door knocking on the campaign trail
13:21 – Balancing work and politics
17:42 – Her experience running for governor
21:41 – How can nurses get past the negatives and want to run for office?
25:51 – What would the pandemic looked like if a nurse was in charge?
28:10 – We need more nurses in public office
32:33 – Final message to nurses
34:00 – Sharon’s biggest takeaway from this conversation

Nov 25, 2020 • 49min
Ep 104: How Ira Gunn Shaped Nurse Anesthesia Through Service, Education & Advocacy
Few people had an impact on nursing and the nurse anesthesia profession like Ira P. Gunn, CRNA, MLN, FAAN. Widely regarded as a visionary in the profession, Gunn’s legacy lives on through many different capacities. To help us better understand her life and accomplishments, Nancy Bruton-Maree and Sandy Ouellette join us to share what they know about Gunn and what they learned from working with her.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-104-how-ira-gunn-shaped-nurse-anesthesia-through-service-education-advocacy/2716/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this show:
2:53 – Nancy and Sandy joining us again in studio
3:30 – Today we’re talking about Ira Gunn
4:35 – Background on Ira Gunn and her early years
8:02 – Developing her life mission and vision
10:14 – Her career in the military
14:48 – Dr. Weeks served under Ira Gunn
17:03 – Her many gifts to nursing and nurse anesthesia profession
23:52 – Nancy tells a story about a time Ira saved her
27:25 – Awards and honors she received
28:54 – How was she viewed by her professional friends?
35:29 – What beliefs did she instill us that still has relevance today?
40:15 – Final Thoughts on Ira

Nov 19, 2020 • 1h 3min
Ep 103: Courage to Lead – 2018-19 AANA President Garry Brydges, PhD, DNP, MBA, CRNA, ACNP-BC, FAAN
We don’t have to go very far back to find the guest on the latest installment in our Presidential Leadership Series. Garry Brydges PhD, DNP, MBA, CRNA, ACNP-BC, FAAN, in the AANA, served as the AANA president for the 2018-19 year so his experiences are still very fresh. Join us as we look back at the challenges of his term, the lessons learned, and why self-reflection has become part of his daily life.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-103-courage-to-lead-2018-19-aana-president-garry-brydges-phd-dnp-mba-crna-acnp-bc-faan/2717/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this show:
1:27 – Traveling during COVID
3:19 – Welcome in Garry Brydges
5:12 – Garry’s extensive educational background
8:16 – Was going to law school when elected AANA president
11:20 – Looking back on his presidency. Why did he decide to run?
19:48 – Why Garry was the right person for a role the board.
24:38 – Meetings are such a wonderful opportunity for presidents
27:38 – Challenges Garry faced during his year
36:26 – Leveraging social media
42:08 – Advocacy issues during his presidency
45:16 – The most valuable leadership lesson he learned
50:56 – A message to the younger CRNAs
52:40 – Garry’s athletic career

Nov 12, 2020 • 1h
Ep 102: What Does Gen X, Y, and Me Believe is the Future of Nurse Anesthesia Profession?
While the CRNA profession continues to remain steady and strong, we’re at a critical point in time if things are going to stay that way. What can be done to motivate and engage the younger generations of CRNAs to be active and involved? We put together a panel for the CANA to discuss the future of the profession and its organizations.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-102-what-does-gen-x-y-and-me-believe-is-the-future-of-nurse-anesthesia-profession/2710/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this show:
2:08 – Today we’re recording for the CANA with some special guests
4:44 – Different generations
6:07 – What will take to move the profession forward?
8:02 – Building on the foundation that’s been laid
10:31 – Will it take a threat to a profession to get CRNAs to become engaged?
16:11 – Why did you feel compelled to join the AANA?
19:16 – Going through the program with children
20:58 – How to move our profession forward?
23:07 – What’s the solution to public awareness problem?
26:49 – How do you feel about the name change to anesthesiologists?
30:22 – Any pushback from physician anesthesiologists?
33:45 – How important is it to have a unified front on this issue?
36:51 – Ways to attract younger generations to the AANA
42:20 – Should business background be more of a priority during training?
45:09 – The role of social media
49:06 – Final thoughts from each of our guests

Nov 5, 2020 • 48min
Ep 101: How Ketamine Infusion Therapy is Treating Mental Health
The dynamic field of psychotropic medication has seen groundbreaking results with the introduction of dissociative therapies. This episode hopes to shed light on the use of ketamine for mental health and chronic pain relief and put an emphasis on how CRNAs are uniquely positioned to benefit from its application. Dr. Nicholas Kalynych and Brian Hogan of Sunbelt Wellness Institute will join the show to help us do that.
Read more about the show here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-101-how-ketamine-infusion-therapy-is-treating-mental-health/2700/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
2:22 – What we’re talking about today
3:04 – Background on our guests
6:32 – What’s important about this topic right now?
7:21 – This history and uses of ketamine
10:28 – Microdosing
12:52 – Stigma of mental health
14:25 – Ketamine with other anti-depressants
16:19 – What’s the stigma attached to ketamine
18:09 – How their business got involved with this treatment.
21:23 – Insurance not covering this right now
22:36 – How can CRNAs get more involved with this?
24:30 – Why CRNAs are uniquely qualified
27:39 – How did these uses for ketamine come about?
30:24 – The role of a psychiatrist
34:30 – How they help people get started with this.
38:53 – How is COVID impacting supply?
45:03 – Final message on the topic

Oct 29, 2020 • 1h 12min
Ep 100: Driving Innovation & Technology in Healthcare with Shawna Butler, RN, MBA
We’re celebrating 100 episodes with a fascinating look to the future of health. Shawna Butler, RN, MBA, has been leading the charge towards merging clinical care, technology, and sustainable business models and much of that conversation centers around the true value of nurses. Join us as we learn all about the work and research Butler has been doing, where the industry is headed from a technology standpoint, and what needs to be done to continue moving our profession forward. This show is going to be a celebration and a reflection on an exciting first 100 episodes, and we also have a special message to share with Sharon and Jeremy.
Read more about the show here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-100-driving-innovation-technology-in-healthcare-with-shawna-butler-rn-mba/2694/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this episode:
0:36 – Celebrating 100 episodes with a surprise
6:36 – Sharon & Jeremy look back on 100 episodes
8:38 – Welcoming in our guest today
9:29 – Background on Butler’s health and tech background
12:27 – Money is the root of many issues
14:57 – We don’t quantify nursing
22:24 – What her podcast is all about
30:22 – How to get policy changes to push nurses forward
35:38 – Examples of what nurses are doing now to innovate
41:58 – How is technology changing nursing?
49:07 – Changing the way nurses view the problems we face.
55:11 – How to get nurses the business training to become an entrepreneur
1:02:03 – A 100th episode request for Butler
1:03:33 – What does the future hold for the podcast?
1:07:27 – A final, inspirational message from Butler

Oct 22, 2020 • 44min
Ep 99: Courage to Lead – 2011-12 AANA President Debra Malina, CRNA, MBA, DNSc
Nearly 10 years ago, the NBCRNA introduced the Continued Professional Certification program much to the surprise of many people in the profession. That announcement came just a few days before former AANA president Debra Malina, CRNA, MBA, DNSc, took office, and it led to many difficult discussions and decisions. Join us as we take you back to 2011-12 and into those meetings, and then find out what Malina remembers most about her time leading the organization.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/courage-to-lead-2011-12-aana-president-debra-malina-crna-mba-dnsc/2687/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this show:
3:00 – Introducing our special guest today
4:57 – Her history in nursing
6:14 – The challenges of her presidency started with NBCRNA and CPC
15:09 – Fallout from the CPC program
16:34 – Another thing they looked at was cutting expenses
21:18 – Helping fund Council on Accreditation
24:53 – Reimbursement advocacy
26:58 – Article written an anesthesiologist in March 2012
31:02 – What happened with removing supervision during her term.
32:42 – Supervision win for Air Force
36:33 – Most important leadership lessons learned
38:53 – Her final message for younger CRNAs

Oct 15, 2020 • 45min
Ep 98: Why Nurses Make Effective Elected Officials at Every Level of Government
Politics carry a connotation that’s gotten worse in recent years, but that’s why it’s even more important for nurses to be a part of the decision-making process. As we continue lobbying on this podcast for activism and involvement, we brought on a guest that took that leap nearly 15 years ago. NC House Representative Gale Adcock, MSN, RN, FNP-BC, FAANP, FAAN, will explain why nurses are so effective in leadership roles and why this topic is so important in 2020.
Read more about the show here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-98-why-nurses-make-effective-elected-officials-at-every-level-of-government/2666/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss today:
2:40 – Welcome in our guest, Rep. Gale Adcock. Some background on her
3:43 – Why this topic today is important
5:24 – Ways to get involved without running for office.
6:50 – Don’t be intimidated by your legislators
10:38 – Political Action Committees
19:30 – When she ran for Town Council
24:10 – What helped her win
28:13 – Why don’t more nurses run?
31:40 – What have you liked and disliked about serving?
36:44 – When people get to know you as a person, things change.

Oct 8, 2020 • 56min
Ep 97: How COVID-19 Has Affected the Economy and CRNA Retirements
Jeremy and Sharon had a chance to speak at the 2020 NCANA/SCANA Virtual Meetings about the impact COVID-19 on CRNAs and their financial security. They’ll provide some eye-opening stats about the economy overall from the past six months and share the direct effect it’s had on CRNAs. But don’t fret, there will also be guidance on what you can be doing to get your financial future in order. Hear that full presentation on this episode.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-97-how-covid-19-has-affected-the-economy-and-crna-retirements/2679/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on this show:
3:05 – Background on where we’re recording and what we’re talking about.
5:09 – How much will the average CRNA make over their lifetime?
6:44 – The impact of COVID on the economy
9:59 – Consumer spending
13:37 – This is different than 2008.
15:12 – Taxes
19:00 – What is GDP?
20:24 – Healthcare changes
26:19 – CRNA work during the pandemic
33:05 – Worries for people nearing retirement.
36:09 – We’re seeing people look to retire earlier than planned.
39:30 – What can CRNAs do to improve their financial situation?
44:13 – How can I make my portfolio pandemic-proof?
46:55 – Thoughts on the continuing rise in CRNA salaries.
49:32 – What could the government do differently?

Oct 1, 2020 • 43min
Ep 96: Why CRNAs Need to Understand the Judicial System
When you think about your future as a CRNA, you likely to see court playing any part in it. But as nurses are included more and more in lawsuits, there’s a chance you could end up in front of a judge. The best way to be prepared is by understanding the legal process and your role in a trial. Judge April Wood brings nearly 20 years experience on the bench and will share what she knows on the show today.
Show notes & additional resources: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-96-why-crnas-need-to-understand-the-judicial-system/2671/
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
What we discuss on the show:
2:43 – Introducing our guest, Judge April Wood. Sharon tells the story of how they got to know each other well.
5:00 – Background on her career
8:30 – What does a judge look for when someone is testifying
9:29 – Know what you’re talking about
12:28 – How should you dress in court?
14:40 – Be aware of judiciary
18:27 – The process of becoming a judge.
22:11 – Current campaigns
24:46 – What is merit selection?
26:47 – How many people voted actually voted on judges last time?
30:53 – Why is Supreme Court a lifetime appointment?
33:15 – What we want to get across to CRNAs
35:08 – How to learn more about Judge Wood
38:31 – Final thoughts from our guest.