
The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show
The Second Studio is an explicit podcast about design, architecture, and the everyday. Hosted by Architects David Lee and Marina Bourderonnet, the show covers a wide array of subjects with humor and honesty and features a variety of creative professionals in unscripted and more personal conversations.
Latest episodes

Jul 5, 2022 • 1h 28min
#293 - Preparing for Architecture School
This week David and Marina discuss how to prepare for undergraduate architecture school. The two cover learning different skills and tools such as software programs, sculpture, drawing, and painting; learning about construction; common challenges students face; architectural education in general; dealing with negativity in the profession of architecture; and more. Enjoy! (03:44) Learning computer programs such as CAD, Rhino, SketchUp, or Revit. (27:50) Sculpture, drawing, and painting classes (34:01) Architecture school is not only about creating “hirable” graduates (43:22) Learning about construction (51:09) The mindset of a designer: Embracing failure and the process of redesigning. (59:55) Buildings are more complicated today than ever before. Should architecture education evolve? (01:05:00) Learning about financial management (01:08:10) Dealing with negativity: Should architecture students be optimistic about their future careers in architecture? This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Jun 28, 2022 • 2h 6min
#292 - Paul Goldberger, Architectural Critic and Author
This week David and Marina are joined by Pulitzer Prize-winning Architectural Critic and Author Paul Goldberger to discuss his journey to becoming an architectural critic; the importance of critics, their role in society and the challenges of being one; adapting to the digital age; his critiquing process; the state of architecture today; and more. This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Jun 21, 2022 • 2h 2min
#291 - After Hours: Cars, Designers vs Artists, Marketing
This week David and Marina have a casual chat about car designs, the bottleneck for designers, communication skills, David's idea for an email plugin, misinformation surrounding architecture, learning to market your work (01:18:27), and more. This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Jun 14, 2022 • 1h 57min
#290 - Tom Kundig, Owner and Design Principal of Olson Kundig
This week architect Tom Kundig, owner and design principal of Olson Kundig joins David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design to discuss his childhood amongst artists and architects; mountain climbing, skiing and a near-death experience; his philosophy and positive outlook on life; the practice and his partnership with Jim Olson; architectural processes, tools and his experience with materiality; opening a New York Office; and more. This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Jun 7, 2022 • 1h 53min
#289 - Preparing for Architecture Thesis
This week David and Marina discuss undergraduate architecture thesis projects and studios, covering the differences between thesis projects, capstone projects, and dissertations; how to select a thesis topic; how to choose the right studio/professor; the value of doing a thesis; the unique challenges of thesis; and more. This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

May 31, 2022 • 1h 58min
#288 - Mitchell Joachim, Co-Founder, Terreform ONE
This week David and Marina are joined by Mitchell Joachim, PhD, Associate Professor, NYU and Co-Founder, Terreform ONE to discuss the complexities of urban design; the role of the urban designer; the real-life applications of his research; financing projects; cricket farms; and more! This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

May 24, 2022 • 2h 21min
#287 - After Hours: Our Remarkable Trip to France
This week David and Marina have a casual talk about their recent trip to France; the architecture of Paris; local and global design aesthetics; homogeneity and diversity of different cities; the 'traveling abroad mindset'; the urbanism of small towns; David's strange infatuation with the Eiffel Tower; cars in France; 'local' cuisine (1:48:50); and more! This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

May 18, 2022 • 2h 9min
#286 - Matthias Hollwich, Founding Principal of HWKN
This week David and Marina are joined by architect and entrepreneur Matthias Hollwich, Founding Principal of HWKN and Co-founder of Architizer, to discuss his upbringing in Germany; working for high-profile offices such as DS+R, OMA, and Eisenman Architects; taking a break from architecture; co-founding Architizer during the 2008 recession; HWKN’s beginnings, ups and downs, and milestone events; and more! This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

May 10, 2022 • 1h 37min
#285 - After Hours: Planning A Trip To France & The Stress Of Architecture Projects
This week David and Marina have a casual chat about perceptions of European countries; 'planning' a trip to France and Marina's 'French' comfort foods(26:30); why architecture projects are stressful and personal (01:01:10); and more! This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

May 3, 2022 • 2h 23min
#284 - Jamie Bush, Interior Architect and Founder of Jamie Bush + CO
This week David and Marina are joined by interior architect and designer Jamie Bush, Principal and Founder of Jamie Bush + CO. to discuss growing up with designers, photographers, and artists; studying Architecture abroad in Venice; transitioning into interior architecture; the disconnect between architects and interior designers; differentiating between interior design and architecture; fee structures; and more. This episode was recorded in two sessions (in case you notice an abrupt change in the conversation towards the end). This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.