
The Second Studio Design and Architecture Show
The Second Studio is an explicit podcast about design, architecture, and the everyday. Hosted by Architects David Lee and Marina Bourderonnet, the show covers a wide array of subjects with humor and honesty and features a variety of creative professionals in unscripted and more personal conversations.
Latest episodes

Sep 13, 2022 • 1h 47min
#303 - After Hours: Visiting Hawaii, Snorkeling with Manta Rays and Volcano Hikes
This week David and Marina have a casual chat about their recent trip to the big island of Hawaii! The two discuss the 'local' architecture, food, landscapes, beaches, the pace of Hawaii, hiking down into a volcano, snorkeling with manta rays, and more! This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Sep 6, 2022 • 1h 40min
#302 - Scott Utterstrom, Principal at XTEN Architecture
This week Architect Scott Utterstrom, Principal at XTEN Architecture joins David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design to discuss his journey into Architecture; studying abroad in Copenhagen; why he chose to pursue a Masters degree in architecture; leading an office; XTEN’s design process and principles; and more. This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Aug 30, 2022 • 1h 22min
#301 - After Hours: Scrabble, Architecture School, and Becoming a More Valuable Professional
This week David and Marina have a casual chat about Scrabble, employees versus employers, the value of experience, becoming less critical of architecture and others, when Marina met David, why David took an extra year in architecture school, design independence, and toxic learning environments. The two also answer listener questions: What should I do if my high school grades are low, but I want to study/practice architecture? (01:00:00) How do I become a more valuable professional? (01:07:09) This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Aug 23, 2022 • 1h 54min
#300 - Michael Ferguson, Founding Principal, TheatreDNA
This week David and Marina are joined by theatre designer, planner and lighting designer Michael Ferguson, Founding Principal, TheatreDNA to discuss his background and expertise; the magic of theatres; the various types of theatres; his experience working with famous architecture practices and architects; the coordination, professional relationships and processes required to design and construct theatres; and more. https://www.mytheatredna.com/ This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Aug 16, 2022 • 54min
#299 - Design Review: "The Line" City Proposal by Neom, Saudi Arabia
This week David and Marina discuss The Line. The Line is a city proposal by Neom development and the Saudi Arabian Government. The two cover the video presentation of the project, its sustainability claims, its impact on the natural environment, its livability, utopian projects, branding, and more. https://www.dezeen.com/2022/07/26/neon-170-kilometre-long-skyscraper-city-saudi-arabia/ This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Aug 9, 2022 • 1h 52min
#298 - Andrés Duany, FAIA, Co-Founder of the Congress for New Urbanism, Founding Partner of DPZ-CoDesign
This week David and Marina are joined by Architect Andrés Duany, FAIA, one of the founders of the Congress for New Urbanism, and Co-Founder of DPZ CoDesign to discuss new urbanism; his appearance on the Tucker Carlson Fox show; the importance of understanding an audience; Seaside, Florida and how it embodies principles of new urbanism; the current state of architecture; and more. This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Aug 2, 2022 • 1h 46min
#297 - After Hours: Bastille Day, Nutella, Quality Spaces
This week David and Marina have a casual chat about Bastille Day, national anthems, Nutella (and why it's pretentious), chocolate in France and the United States, cupcakes, San Francisco's Ferry Building, creating nice spaces, listener questions, and more. This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.David Lee and Marina Bourderonnet

Jul 26, 2022 • 2h 13min
#296 - Unionizing Architecture with Architectural Workers United
This week David and Marina are joined by Architecture Workers United (AWU) Members Andrew Daley, Associate Organizer at IAMAW and Jennifer Siqueira, Project Architect at Bernheimer Architecture to discuss their involvement with the AWU; the fundamentals of unions and how to start one; the state of unionization in the profession; the pros and cons of forming a union; and more. https://www.architecturalworkersunited.org/ Andrew: ADaley@iamaw.org Jennifer: je.siqueir@gmail.com This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

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Jul 19, 2022 • 1h 29min
#295 - After Hours: Dream Houses, Client Communication, Starting an Office
This week David and Marina have a casual chat about silly dream house requests, communicating with concerned clients, losing interest in the current architecture, defining one's own style, complacency caused by design blogs what it's like starting one own's office, David and Marina's work process, losing hand-drawing skills, and more. This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.

Jul 12, 2022 • 1h 52min
#294 - Greg Warner, Principal and Founder of Walker Warner Architects
This week Architect Greg Warner, Principal and Founder of Walker Warner Architects joins David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design to discuss growing up in Hawaii and its influence on his professional career; co-founding his office and its growth; working in Hawaii; the responsibilities of a principal and the importance of leadership; his philosophy and approach to projects; and more. Enjoy! This episode is supported by Brizo • Monograph • Miele • Graphisoft SUBSCRIBE • Apple Podcasts • YouTube • Spotify CONNECT • Website: www.secondstudiopod.com • Instagram • Facebook • Twitter • Call or text questions to 213-222-6950 SUPPORT Leave a review :) EPISODE CATEGORIES • Interviews: Interviews with industry leaders. • Design Companion: Informative talks for clients. • After Hours (AH): Casual conversations about everyday life. • Design Reviews: Reviews of creative projects and buildings. • Fellow Designer: Tips for designers.