

The Hidden Curriculum
Hidden Curriculum
The Hidden Curriculum is a podcast on all the topics you wanted to learn in (econ) graduate school. There are lots of things about the profession that you only hear if you have a great mentor or during networking opportunities. This podcast aims to help decrease that knowledge gap by bringing that information into your headphones!
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Email: hiddencurriculumpodcast@gmail.com
Artwork by @factorintrinseco. Music by Funk O'Clock by Delicate Beats. Licensed by Premium Beat
Email: hiddencurriculumpodcast@gmail.com
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Mar 8, 2022 • 47min
E35 - Digital Innovations in the Teaching Space with Abdullah Al-Bahrani
In this episode we talk with Abdullah Al-Bahrani on innovations in the teaching world. Abdullah is an Associate Professor of Economics and the Director of the Center for Economics Education at Northern Kentucky University. His research focuses on economics education and on the role of information on economic decision-making and market outcomes. He is the recipient of the Kenneth G. Elzinga Distinguished Teaching Award (2020), Excellence in Teaching and Instruction award (2016), Dean’s Citation award (2015), and several other awards that recognize my passion and ability for teaching. Sebastian Tello-Trillo is an Assistant Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy in the University of Virginia. Alex Hollingsworth is an Associate Professor of Economics at the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs in Indiana University. Shownotes: Check out the Econ Games. https://www.theecongames.com. Abdullah founded this event in which students use skills learned in their economics classes and apply it to real world situations. Check out Abullah’s youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/DrAbdullahAlBahrani Sebastian recommends the news site: https://ojo-publico.com and news aggregator: https://winno.app. Sebastian also recommends checking out Dbrands, https://dbrand.com, which are “covers” for your tech so they look nice and unique! Abdullah recommends Paperlike for the ipad. Screen https://paperlike.com Alex recommends Uni-ball power tank: https://uniballco.com/collections/ballpoint-pens/products/power-tank-ballpoint-pens Take the npr health insurance quiz: https://www.npr.org/transcripts/459346426 We also talked about Rebbeca Moryl’s resource on using podcast to teach economics

Mar 1, 2022 • 39min
E34 - Working at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency with Will Wheeler
In this episode we talk with Will Wheeler about working at the Environmental Protection Agency. Will is an environmental economist at the U.S. EPA’s National Center for Environmental Economics. He mostly conducts research regarding water quality and enforcement issues and is interested in the quality of EPA’s environmental data and helping people understand the EPA's data sets. He is also interested in the potential for gaming of environmental data. He is Past-President of the Northeastern Agricultural and Resource Economics Association and is on the Editorial Board of the Review of Environmental Economics and Policy. In this episode we talk about What does the EPA do? What is the role of economist on the EPA? What are day-to-day tasks? What are some misconceptions about the work in a government agencies? and other interesting questions!
Sebastian Tello-Trillo is an Assistant Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy in the University of Virginia.
Alex Hollingsworth is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs in Indiana University.
Recommendations of the week:
- Will recommends checking the book "No drama discipline" and if you are an environmental economist and are looking for research topics, look into the trade press like "Inside EPA"
- Alex recommends having a plain text file to "accumulate" things to do, and only concentrate on a number of things per day/week.
- Sebastian recommends the book "Make Time" by Jake Knapp and John Zeratsky. Find it here

Feb 22, 2022 • 59min
E33 - Getting into graduate school with Price Fishback
In this episode we talk with Price Fishback about admission to economics PhD programs.
Price Fishback is the Thomas R. Brown Professor of Economics at the University of Arizona. His primary research interest is the political economy of Roosevelt’s New Deal during the 1930s, examining both the determinants of New Deal spending and loans and their impact on local economies throughout the U.S. Fishback is a research affiliate at the Centre for Economic History at Australian National University, a CAGE Fellow at Warwick University, a program scholar for the Hoover Program on Regulation and the Rule of Law, a fellow at the TIAA-CREF Institute and a research associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research
Sebastian Tello-Trillo is an Assistant Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy in the University of Virginia.
Alex Hollingsworth is an Associate Professor of Economics at the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs in Indiana University.
Notes from the episode
Racial Disparities in Access to New Deal Programs in the 1930s: by Price Fishback, Jessamyn Schaller, and Evan Taylor
Recommendations of the Week
Price recommends seeing/watching Hamilton
Alex recommends when running code that will take a while, preventing your computer from turning off and changing the background of your desktop to remind you that you did this.
Sebastian recommends writing down what you want to do the day before!

Feb 16, 2022 • 52min
E32 - Productivity and work habits with Patrick Baylis
In this episode we talk with Patrick Baylis about productivity and work habits.
Patrick Baylis is an assistant professor and environmental economist at the Vancouver School of Economics at the University of British Columbia (UBC). He studies how people respond to environmental threats like climate change, air pollution, and wildfires.
Sebastian Tello-Trillo is an Assistant Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy in the University of Virginia.
Alex Hollingsworth is an Associate Professor of Economics at the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs in Indiana University.
Notes from the episode
An updated blog post from Patrick that we reference throughout the episode, https://www.patrickbaylis.com/blog/2022-02-09-productivity/
Patrick's working paper: Mandated vs. Voluntary Adaptation to Natural Disasters: The Case of U.S. Wildfires (with Judson Boomhower), https://www.nber.org/papers/w29621
Watch Patrick on ESPN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9m9o0X7MN8
Make time book: https://bookshop.org/shop/Hiddencurriculum
Recommendations of the Week
Patrick recommends deleting email applications from your phone.
Alex recommends buying a kitchen scale (he has this one Escali Primo P115C). (Note: Sebastian has now done this and also endorses this tip)
Sebastian recommends wakelet (https://wakelet.com) to organize lists of links

Sep 21, 2021 • 57min
E31 - Understanding differences about the international graduate student experience with Christine Strong
In this episode we talk with Christine Strong about the graduate student immigrant experience. Christine is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the Strome School of Business at Old Dominion University. She holds a PhD from the University of Oklahoma. Her research focuses on macroeconomics, monetary policy, politics of central banking and currency union, with a focus in African countries.
Sebastian Tello-Trillo is an Assistant Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy in the University of Virginia.
Alex Hollingsworth is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs in Indiana University.
Recommendations of the Week
Christine's recommendation of the week is the book "Born a Crime" by Trevor Noah. You can find this and other recommended books in this link
Alex's recommendation of the week is the command binscatter or binscatter2. This is a command that helps understand relationships between two variables. The idea is that it will give the average y for equally size bins of the x variable. You can look find the command of this link: https://michaelstepner.com/binscatter. Another important point is that there are some potential issues with this version of the command that are explained here ( https://arxiv.org/abs/1902.09608) and a newer version of this command which fixed those isssues: binscatter2 https://github.com/mdroste/stata-binscatter2
Sebastian's recommendation of the week is the podcast "Professor-ing". Professor-ing is a new podcast from the NCFDD where faculty share the R&R - the real and realer about life in academia. Find out more at www.FacultyDiversity.org/ProfessoringPodhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/professor-ing/id1519285794

Sep 14, 2021 • 49min
E30 - Get started with grants and tips for submission with Donna Ginther
In this episode we talk with Donna Ginter on her tips to a successful grant proposal. Donna is the Roy A. Roberts Distinguished Professor of Economics and Director of the Institute for Policy & Social Research at the University of Kansas and a Research Associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research. Her major fields of study are scientific labor markets, gender differences in employment outcomes, wage inequality, scientific entrepreneurship, children's educational attainments, and child abuse and neglect.
In her role as the director of IPSR at Kansas she helps people get funded through different means. Her research also focuses on scientific entrepreneurship. Finally, Donna has has extensive experience applying for grants and serving in committees that award grants. She shares what she has learned from all of these experiences with us.
Sebastian Tello-Trillo is an Assistant Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy in the University of Virginia.
Alex Hollingsworth is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs in Indiana University.
Recommendations of the week:
Donna recommends that if you are looking for a way to quickly re-charge your batteries, go out for a walk in "nature". Donna feels that going out to nature even for 15 minutes can help recharge energy and get the creative flow going. Her second recommendation is to track your time. Pick a given week or period of time for which you will track your time. Then check how much %s of your time you spend on each category of your job and adjust accordingly.
Alex's recommendation of the week is to ask people for their successful grant applications. When he started this process, Alex didn't know where to start. Seeing a friend's application was very helpful in understanding format, and narrative of how an application looks.
Sebastian's recommendation of the week is to apply for the National Science Foundation Graduate Research Fellowship. This fellowship provides you with financial support and importantly it can relief you from teaching assistant duties during your PhD Program, which can be very helpful. You can apply for this fellowship while applying for graduate school or in your first year of graduate school.

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Sep 7, 2021 • 54min
E29 - Tips to target a job at a liberal arts institution with Allison O Luedtke
In this episode we talk with Allison Luedtke (LID-kee) about procuring a job at a liberal arts position. Allison is an assistant professor of economics at St. Olaf College. Her research focuses on the macroeconomic effects of networks. She holds a PhD in Economics from the University of Virginia and Bachelor's degree in Math from William and Mary.
Sebastian Tello-Trillo is an Assistant Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy in the University of Virginia.
Alex Hollingsworth is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs in Indiana University.
Recommendations of the Week:
Allison's recommendations of the week is a cocktail called greenpoint. It's a spin on a Manhattan. Ingredients are:
2 ounces rye whiskey
1/2 ounce yellow Chartreuse
1/2 ounce sweet vermouth
1 dash Angostura bitters
1 dash orange bitters
Garnish: lemon twist
Alex's recommendation of the week is to sign up for "Bright by Text". It's a text messaging systems that "provides invaluable information from early childhood experts on topics including developmental milestones, brain development, mental health and resilience, social-emotional competence, STEM, language and literacy, nutrition, health and more." Text BRIGHT to 274 448 to sign up. They also have the text in spanish!
Alex also say you should watch Ted Lasso.
Sebastian's recommendation of the week is to submit your JMP! This is taken from my adviser Kitt Carpenter. The main story here is that once you are done with the market, you will take a break, move and then the semester will start and life will be a bit hectic. It may be easy to keep scheduling working on the JMP for later. It may even seem like a huge task to do all the suggestions you got while being on the market! That's true but I still highly recommend getting back to it and just trying to submit it, and re-submit it until it is done. You will feel so great when it is off your shoulders!

Aug 17, 2021 • 52min
E28 - Setting up a research project folder with Julian Reif
In this episode, we talk with Julian Reif about setting up a research project folder for best replications purposes. Julian is an Assistant Professor of Finance and Economics at the Gies College of Business at the University of Illinois. He is also a Senior Scholar at the Institute of Government and Public Affairs and a Faculty Research Fellow at the National Bureau of Economic Research. His research focuses on health policy evaluation and the value of health and longevity. Professor Reif received his Ph.D. in Economics from the University of Chicago and his BA from Vanderbilt University.
In this episode, we go over how to set up a research project folder structure. We follow the guide that Julian has on his page. [https://julianreif.com/guide/#folder-structure]. This is a great guide to follow for structuring all your projects. I usually have an "empty" project folder, and every time I start a new project, I copy and rename that folder for my new project.
We also have a companion video tutorial on how to do this, in which you can follow step-by-step how to do it. [https://youtu.be/KUtxJyauQ-o]
Sebastian Tello-Trillo is an Assistant Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy at the University of Virginia.
Alex Hollingsworth is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs at Indiana University.
During the episode, we talk about Julian's paper on teenage driving and mortality risk. You can find that paper here https://julianreif.com/research/reif.wp.driving.pdf
Recommendations of the week
Julian's recommendation of the week is to listen to a podcast while you exercise! His two recommendations are (1) Conversations with Tyler and (2) Mindscape. https://conversationswithtyler.com and https://www.mindescapepodcast.com
Alex’s tip of the week is to use code snippets when writing in latex and sublime text. Basically ways of automating annoying tasks. You can check out examples here: http://www.peterhaschke.com/workflow/2013/05/08/SLT2-Snippet.htmlFor example, you can type `fig` then hit tab and all the code to create a figure with a centered graphic will replace the `fig` text you typed, with your cursor in the place to add the appropriate file path.
Sebastian's recommendation of the week is to use the text-replacement app Autohotkey. This app allows you to map any keyboard combination to an action or other words. For example, I type "-zoom" for my personal zoom link, and my zoom link appears. https://www.autohotkey.com

Aug 3, 2021 • 44min
E27 - Tips on how to talk to the media with Fenaba Addo
In this episode we talk with Fenaba Addo about on how to talk to the media. Fenaba R. Addo, Ph.D., is an Associate Professor of Public Policy at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. Dr. Addo was the Lorna Jorgensen Wendt Associate Professor of Money, Relationships, and Equality (MORE) in the School of Human Ecology’s Department of Consumer Science at the University of Wisconsin-Madison prior to joining UNC and a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation Health & Society Postdoctoral Scholar. She received her Ph.D. in Policy Analysis and Management from Cornell University and holds a B.S. in Economics from Duke University.
Sebastian Tello-Trillo is an Assistant Professor of Public Policy and Economics at the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy in the University of Virginia.
Alex Hollingsworth is an Assistant Professor of Economics at the O'Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs in Indiana University.
Show notes:
In the workflow section, Fenaba mentioned that she takes part of "Sunday Planning". That is have an overview of her schedule for the week. She tries schedule writing time during the mornings and schedule meetings during teaching days. Writing time can be understood as writing or research time (i.e. coding, reading, etc.). This takes about 30 min to an hour.
Fenaba's recommendation of the week is to start each class with a song, and if you can connect the topic of that lecture to the song! She says it's a fun way to set the mood for the class.
Alex's recommendation of the week is to use the feature on macs (and windows) that reads outloud your text. This is a great way to catch typos or odd-wording of the stuff you write! Perfect for emails
Sebastian's recommendation of the week is "The Public Professor: How to Use Your Research to Change the World" by M. V. Lee Badget. The work of academics can matter and be influential on a public level, but the path to becoming a public intellectual, influential policy advisor, valued community resource or go-to person on an issue is not one that most scholars are trained for. The Public Professor offers scholars ways to use their ideas, research and knowledge to change the world. You can find it with the rest of our books recommendations on our bookshop affiliate link [https://bookshop.org/shop/Hiddencurriculum]

Jul 20, 2021 • 45min
E26 - Tips on mentoring undergraduate students with Jonathan Meer
Jonathan Meer, University Professor for Undergraduate Teaching Excellence at A&M, delves into effective mentoring for undergraduate students. He shares insights on balancing research and teaching, crafting personalized strategies that cater to diverse student needs. The conversation highlights the vital role of mentorship in shaping students' futures and discusses outreach initiatives for underrepresented high school students. With a touch of humor, he also recommends unique travel experiences through music, enhancing the bonds created during trips.