
The Stone Chapel Podcast
“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is a weekly podcast of the friends and staff of The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center in Houston, Texas. It is hosted by David Capes, Director of Academic Programming of the Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center. David is an engaging host, a respected New Testament scholar, and the author of Rediscovering Paul and Matthew through Old Testament Eyes. “The Stone Chapel Podcast” features theologians, scholars, and thought leaders from around the world for lively, informative, and educational discussions. With over 200 compelling, uplifting episodes that are valuable for all spiritually curious listeners, the Stone Chapel Podcast provides an unique, weekly refresh and renewal resource for pastors and church leaders.
In case you're interested in going deeper and want more educational content, most of the Stone Chapel podcasts are associated with The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center’s public lecture series, programs, and classes. Please visit our website for videos and panel discussions with many of the podcast visitors David has hosted, as well as all our resources and opportunities!
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“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is now part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network.
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Latest episodes

Nov 19, 2024 • 22min
Theodicy vs. Antitheodicy With Jahdiel Perez
Dr. Jahdiel Perez joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to discuss some of his recent research. Specifically, he is investigating the claims by anti-theodicists that explaining God's relation to pain, grief, and suffering is actually harmful to people who are suffering. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-theodicy-vs-antitheodicy-with-jahdiel-perez To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Nov 12, 2024 • 28min
'Mary's Voice' Encore With Amy Orr-Ewing
In this special Encore edition of the Stone Chapel Podcast. Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing joins Dr. Capes to talk about her book, "Mary’s Voice." It’s a terrific Christmas devotional that takes us back to Mary, the mother of Jesus. She is the first and perhaps most important witness to the Incarnation. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-marys-voice-amy-orr-ewing To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 30 minutes in length.

Nov 5, 2024 • 21min
'The New Testament in Color' (Part 2) With Esau McCaulley
In part two of our podcast with Esau McCaulley, he talks about African American biblical interpretation and how he finds value in every culture in every age. Finally, the conversation turns to his role as a public theologian. For more information about The New Testament in Color click here. For the companion book, Reading While Black, click here. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-the-new-testament-in-color-part-two-esau-mccaulley To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Oct 29, 2024 • 18min
'The New Testament in Color' (Part 1) With Esau McCaulley
Dr. Esau McCaulley, Associate Professor of New Testament and Public Theology at Wheaton College, joins David Capes to talk about a New Testament Commentary he edited. It is called The New Testament in Color (InterVarsity Academic). In this episode, he talks about African American biblical interpretation and his own, spiritual journey. This is part one of a two-part conversation. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/the-new-testament-in-color-esau-mccaulley To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Oct 22, 2024 • 21min
'Jesus Contradicted' With Mike Licona
Dr. Michael Licona, Professor of New Testament at Houston Christian University, joins David Capes on the Stone Chapel Podcast. After coming through a period of doubt and questioning in his own life, Mike found his way back to an even better, more informed type of faith. Now he reads the Gospels like what they were, ancient biographies. He has written an important book Jesus Contradicted: Why the Gospels Tell the Same Stories Differently. If you’ve ever wondered “why?”, this will be a great book for you. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/jesus-contradicted-mike-licona To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Oct 15, 2024 • 25min
Did Jesus Think He Was Divine? With Brant Pitre
Brant Pitre, a Professor of Sacred Scripture at the Augustine Institute and author of several works on early Christianity, shares intriguing insights about Jesus’ self-perception as divine. He argues that Jesus viewed Himself as more than a human Messiah, emphasizing His divine authority through key Gospel passages. Pitre also debunks misconceptions about early Christian doctrine and the Council of Nicaea, while exploring the relevance of meditative practices in understanding Jesus' divinity and enhancing personal faith amidst modern family dynamics.

Oct 8, 2024 • 21min
Psalms and Proverbs With Terry Wildman
Terry Wildman joins David Capes again on The Stone Chapel Podcast. He is an indigenous church leader who makes his home in Phoenix, along with his wife, Darlene. He led the effort to create the First Nations Version: An Indigenous Bible Translation of the New Testament (InterVarsity Press). You can hear David’s and Terry’s conversation about that here. Now, Terry and the First Nations Version Translation Council are teaming up to translate the Psalms and Proverbs in their new version. The translation has many interesting features, some of which they detail here. And “voice of thunder with a good medicine spirit,” as Terry is called in native Ojibwe, does a fantastic reading of two psalms. For a fresh look at the Scriptures, do yourself a. favor. Pick up your own copy soon. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/psalms-proverbs-terry-wildman To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Oct 1, 2024 • 20min
Did Jesus Truly Rise From the Dead? With Gary Habermas
Gary Habermas has spent a lifetime studying the resurrection of Jesus and asking: did Jesus truly rise from the dead? He just published volume two in a four-volume series on the resurrection published by Broadman & Holman. Dr. Habermas will deliver the fourth annual John Warwick Montgomery lecture in Evidential and Legal Apologetics at the Lanier Theological Library on Saturday, November 9, 2024. In this podcast, he joins David Capes to preview the lecture on the iconic campus. Join us for the lecture, either in person or online. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/did-jesus-rise-from-the-dead-gary-habermas To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Sep 24, 2024 • 24min
Demystifying Evil With Ingrid Faro
Dr. Ingrid Faro is Professor of Old Testament at Northern Seminary in the western suburbs of Chicago. She was recently a Visiting Scholar at the Lanier Theological Library in Houston and sat down with David Capes to talk about her book, Demystifying Evil. Ingrid began her study of evil and suffering after an extensive period of trauma and abuse. Thus, her book is an intensely personal book as well as a biblical exploration. For those who wrestle with principalities and powers, those who have perpetuated their own evil, or those who have suffered as a result of sickness or a natural disaster, this is a book for you. This is Dr. Faro’s second appearance on The Stone Chapel Podcast. To hear her first podcast with us, “Deconstructing Evil,” click here. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/demystifying-evil-with-ingrid-faro To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.

Sep 17, 2024 • 20min
'Christmaker' With James McGrath
Recently, Dr. James McGrath, professor of New Testament Literature at Butler University, made his first visit on The Stone Chapel Podcast. He and David Capes discussed his new book, Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist (Eerdmans). The provocative title came to McGrath to describe the life and legacy of the Baptist. McGrath shares with us his inclinations to write the book and some of the things he learned along the way. Many in the west have a hard time understanding how in certain circles John the Baptist was, and still is, more popular than Jesus of Nazareth. Still, the sources inside and outside the Bible reveal John to be a powerful and polarizing figure for his day. After writing the book, McGrath came to think; if we don’t pay attention to John the Baptist, we will find that we misunderstand Jesus. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-christmaker-james-mcgrath To listen to previous episodes of “The Stone Chapel Podcast” click here. This podcast is about 20 minutes in length.