

Leading Learning Podcast
Tagoras
The market for continuing education, professional development, and lifelong learning is large and evolving rapidly. Competition is growing and learners have more options than ever. The Leading Learning Podcast is for learning business professionals who want to thrive in this new landscape. In each episode, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele provide actionable insights based on their own deep experience and expertise or invite in experts and practitioners to share their perspectives.
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Nov 20, 2018 • 37min
161: The Uberization of the Learning Business with Tom Morrison
Are you prepared to face the potential disruptors to your learning business? Or – even better – are you positioning your organization to be the next big disruptor of your market? Return guest Tom Morrison, CEO of Metal Treating Institute (MTI), is a highly-sought after keynote speaker, and author of multiple books, including most recently, The Dash: Making Sure Your Obituary Won’t Suck. And a key concept that he speaks about is around the idea of “uberization” – a term based on the highly successful market disruptor that we all know, Uber. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Jeff talks with Tom about the concept of uberization including how it applies to learning businesses and how to avoid being “uberized”. He also talks about what MTI is doing with their highly successful e-learning and certificate programs to solidify their niche in the market. Full show notes available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode161. Our sponsor for this episode is Learning • Technology • Design™ (LTD), our annual virtual conference designed specifically for those who work in the business of lifelong learning, continuing education, and professional development. This will be our fourth time offering LTD, and we know from all the feedback we have received that past attendees have found it a unique and highly valuable experience. Registration is open at ltd.tagoras.com, and through the month of November we are offering reduced pricing as well as the opportunity to extend a complimentary invitation to a colleague or friend who has not attended LTD before. We are also offering the opportunity to be a Patron for the event, an option that may be of interest to companies that serve learning businesses. You can find out about that by going to ltd.tagoras.com/patron. And we would like to spotlight some of our current patrons including Web Courseworks, makers of the Course Stage LMS, and Event Garde, a professional development consulting firm committed to lifelong learning.

Nov 13, 2018 • 52min
160: Linking Leading, Learning, and Change with Richard Gerver
As an award-winning speaker and bestselling author of the thought-provoking books, Change: Learn to Love It, Learn to Lead It and Simple Thinking: How to Remove Complexity from Life and Work, Richard Gerver is an inspirational, world-renowned thinker exploring the links between great leadership, human potential, change, and innovation. And because he got his start in education - ultimately serving as a famously transformative school principal - Richard is able to draw on first-hand experiences when it comes to understanding and articulating the connection between leading and learning. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Celisa talks with Richard about how he views the link between leading and learning, ways simplicity and change impact learning, and the important role of mentoring. Our sponsor for this episode is Learning • Technology • Design™ (LTD), our annual virtual conference designed specifically for those who work in the business of lifelong learning, continuing education, and professional development. This will be our fourth time offering LTD, and we know from all the feedback we have received that past attendees have found it a unique and highly valuable experience. Registration is open at ltd.tagoras.com, and through the month of November we are offering reduced pricing as well as the opportunity to extend a complimentary invitation to a colleague or friend who has not attended LTD before. We are also offering the opportunity to be a Patron for the event, an option that may be of interest to companies that serve learning businesses. You can find out about that by going to ltd.tagoras.com/patron. And we like to spotlight some of our current patrons including Avilar, makers of the Web Mentor LMS, and 360Factor, makers of the Oasis LMS.

Nov 6, 2018 • 40min
159: Pulling Back the Curtain on LTD 2019
Since today marks the opening of registration for Learning • Technology • Design™(LTD 2019) – our annual virtual conference designed specifically for professionals in the business of continuing education, professional development, and lifelong learning – we thought this would be a perfect opportunity to pull back the curtain for an in-depth look at our planning process with the hope that it can be of value to you as you're planning your next event. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Celisa and Jeff share details about their planning process for LTD, including what goes into building the program (with a sneak peak at some potential topics!), how the format for the event has evolved over time, and their strategy for marketing it. Full show notes available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode159. Our sponsor this quarter is ReviewMyLMS, a collaboration between our company, Tagoras, and 100Reviews, the company that is behind the very successful ReviewMyAMS site. As the name suggests, ReviewMyLMS is a site where users can share and access reviews of learning management systems, and the focus is specifically on systems that are a good fit for learning businesses, meaning organizations that market and sell lifelong learning. Contribute a review and you get access to all existing and future reviews—there are already more than 130 on the site. And, if you don’t have a review to contribute, there is also a subscription option. For details, check out reviewmylms.com.

Oct 30, 2018 • 40min
158: The CLO Breakfast Club with Mike Prokopeak
Mike Prokopeak is vice president and editor in chief for Human Capital Media (HCM), an integrated information services and market-intelligence company focused on the business of human capital management and workforce development. In his role, he leads a team to create content for the award-winning Chief Learning Officer, Talent Economy, and Workforce magazines and their associated digital media and events. And most recently, he is the proud co-host of a recently launched podcast, the CLO Breakfast Club. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Jeff talks with Mike about the evolution of the Chief Learning Officer role, how CLO’s can effectively position themselves for success, and how leaders of market-facing learning businesses may be able to partner with their corporate counterparts. Full show notes available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode158. Our sponsor this quarter is ReviewMyLMS, a collaboration between our company, Tagoras, and 100Reviews, the company that is behind the very successful ReviewMyAMS site. As the name suggests, ReviewMyLMS is a site where users can share and access reviews of learning management systems, and the focus is specifically on systems that are a good fit for learning businesses, meaning organizations that market and sell lifelong learning. Contribute a review and you get access to all existing and future reviews—there are already more than 100 on the site. And, if you don’t have a review to contribute, there is also a subscription option. For details, check out reviewmylms.com

Oct 23, 2018 • 29min
157: Leadership, Innovation, and Collective Impact with Seth Kahan
Seth Kahan is a change leadership expert who helps guide organizations through large-scale change, innovation, and growth. He’s also author of the business bestsellers, Getting Change Right and Getting Innovation Right as well as founder of Visionary Leadership where he helps visionary leaders achieve success on a grand scale. And if any of this sounds familiar, that’s because this is now his third appearance on the podcast—a true testament to how much we value his work. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Celisa talks with Seth about new competencies for leadership, the difference between sustaining innovation and disruptive innovation, as well as what it takes to lead for collective impact. Full show notes available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode157. Our sponsor this quarter is ReviewMyLMS, a collaboration between our company, Tagoras, and 100Reviews, the company that is behind the very successful ReviewMyAMS site. As the name suggests, ReviewMyLMS is a site where users can share and access reviews of learning management systems, and the focus is specifically on systems that are a good fit for learning businesses, meaning organizations that market and sell lifelong learning. Contribute a review and you get access to all existing and future reviews—there are already more than 100 on the site. And, if you don’t have a review to contribute, there is also a subscription option. For details, check out reviewmylms.com.

Oct 16, 2018 • 36min
156: Learning Business Strategy Q&A
In a recent collaboration on a Webinar with the Wisconsin Society of Association Executives (WSAE), we answered questions from members related to strategy and business models for association online education programs. And while WSAE is an association specifically interested in online education, the questions and answers are applicable to any learning business, across all delivery formats. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Celisa and Jeff share questions and answers from the session along with a variety of related resources to help you hone your strategy and grow your learning business. Full show notes available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode156. Our sponsor this quarter is ReviewMyLMS, a collaboration between our company, Tagoras, and 100Reviews, the company that is behind the very successful ReviewMyAMS site. As the name suggests, ReviewMyLMS is a site where users can share and access reviews of learning management systems, and the focus is specifically on systems that are a good fit for learning businesses, meaning organizations that market and sell lifelong learning. Contribute a review and you get access to all existing and future reviews—there are already more than 100 on the site. And, if you don’t have review to contribute, there is also a subscription option. For details, check out reviewmylms.com.

Oct 9, 2018 • 37min
155: Leveraged Learning with Danny Iny
Danny Iny is a lifelong entrepreneur and founder and CEO of the online business education company Mirasee. He is also a best-selling author who has written nine books including the recently-released, Leveraged Learning: How the Disruption of Education Helps Lifelong Learners and Experts with Something to Teach. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Jeff talks with Danny about the core messages of his new book including some of the major changes impacting higher education and the opportunities and challenges they represent for learning businesses. Full show notes available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode155. Our sponsor this quarter is ReviewMyLMS, a collaboration between our company, Tagoras, and 100Reviews, the company that is behind the very successful ReviewMyAMS site. As the name suggests, ReviewMyLMS is a site where users can share and access reviews of learning management systems, and the focus is specifically on systems that are a good fit for learning businesses, meaning organizations that market and sell lifelong learning. Contribute a review and you get access to all existing and future reviews—there are already more than 100 on the site. And, if you don’t have review to contribute, there is also a subscription option. For details, check out reviewmylms.com.

Oct 2, 2018 • 53min
154: Learning in the Digital Age with Brandon Carson
With over 25 years of experience, Brandon Carson is an innovative learning strategist and a leader in corporate global learning. He’s also Director of Learning at Delta Air Lines and author of Learning in the Age of Immediacy: 5 Factors for How We Connect, Communicate, and Get Work Done. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Celisa talks with Brandon about what he’s seen change in the learning industry throughout his career and the five factors he believes, in aggregate, will have the most influence on learning in the coming years. They also discuss the implications and applications he sees for learning businesses around artificial intelligence and virtual and augmented reality. Full show notes available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode154. Our sponsor this quarter is ReviewMyLMS, a collaboration between our company, Tagoras, and 100Reviews, the company that is behind the very successful ReviewMyAMS site. As the name suggests, ReviewMyLMS is a site where users can share and access reviews of learning management systems, and the focus is specifically on systems that are a good fit for learning businesses, meaning organizations that market and sell lifelong learning. Contribute a review and you get access to all existing and future reviews—there are already more than 100 on the site. And, if you don’t have review to contribute, there is also a subscription option. For details, check out reviewmylms.com.

Sep 25, 2018 • 27min
153: Making the Business Case for Investing in Your Learning Business
As learning business leaders, it’s inevitable that there will be times when you need additional resources. Whether it’s new staff, new technologies, extra contract help for a special project (the list goes on and on), getting those resources may not be easy. Very often you have to convince someone else—be it your boss, your board, or investors—that the resources really are necessary and that they will result in a positive return. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Celisa and Jeff discuss five points that will apply in almost all business-case-making situations to help you get the new and better resources that your learning business needs to succeed. Full show notes available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode153 Brought to you by NextThought, AssociationsNext.com is your opportunity to learn from some leading thinkers in eLearning and membership organizations, as well as giving you the chance to test drive the NextThought LMS platform. In this educational series, you’ll uncover new knowledge about instructional design, digital strategy, and staying true to your organization’s long-term goals in the face of rapid change. KiKi L’Italien, Tracy King, and Lowell Aplebaum lead the first three modules, and more courses will be added on a monthly basis. Visit AssociationsNext.com to enroll and experience the revolutionary NextThought LMS for yourself.

Sep 18, 2018 • 47min
152: Digging into Digital Strategy with KiKi L’Italien
KiKi L’Italien is CEO and creative technologist of the digital marketing consultancy Amplified Growth as well as the host of the hugely popular Association Chat, an online community and weekly podcast. She’s also leading the free course, Digital Strategy for Associations, which she recently created in collaboration with NextThought as part of their AssociationsNext initiative. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Jeff talks with KiKi about digital strategy including what it is, how learning businesses can leverage it, and how it’s different for associations. They also dive into her experience creating the Digital Strategy for Associations course and – since she is a podcaster herself – her insights and lessons learned related to hosting a successful podcast. Full show notes available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode152. Brought to you by NextThought, AssociationsNext is your opportunity to learn from some leading thinkers in eLearning and membership organizations, as well as giving you the chance to test drive the NextThought LMS platform. In this educational series, you’ll uncover new knowledge about instructional design, digitalstrategy, and staying true to yourorganization’s long-term goals in the face of rapid change. KiKi L’Italien, Tracy King, and Lowell Aplebaum lead the first three modules, and more courses will be added on a monthly basis. Visit AssociationsNext.org to enroll and experience the revolutionary NextThought LMS for yourself.